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<v Greg>Craft Beer Radio, episode 509 for real this time, on June</v>

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<v Greg>30th, 2023.</v>

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There we go.

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We made it.

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<v Jeff>Made it to the boogie Made shoes.</v>

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<v Greg>it to the boogie shoes part.</v>

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<v Greg>Yeah.</v>

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<v Greg>Hi, I'm Greg.</v>

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<v Shannon>I'm Shannon.</v>

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I'm Jeff.

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<v Greg>And welcome back to Craft Beer Radio.</v>

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<v Greg>where we drink beers and talk about other stuff so</v>

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<v Jeff>Exactly.</v>

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<v Jeff>And since we have Canadian wildfire smoke flooding us out, inundating us</v>

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<v Jeff>this</v>

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<v Greg>yeah it's been</v>

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<v Greg>quite a hazy couple of days oh we should have done hazy</v>

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<v Greg>shade of hazy to summer i don't</v>

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<v Jeff>I know yeah don't know.</v>

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<v Jeff>So this is a Gratzki from the grape brush from Poland.</v>

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Smoked wheat beer.

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<v Greg>yeah i there are two that i picked up from hot farm</v>

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<v Greg>that i i haven't tried at all yet and but they looked</v>

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<v Greg>interesting new stuff so i was like anytime i can try something</v>

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<v Greg>new i'm definitely going for it when everything else on the shelf</v>

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<v Greg>is hazy or or a or the milkshake smoothie or something like</v>

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<v Greg>Mm</v>

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<v Shannon>that -hmm.</v>

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<v Shannon>I have to admit the idea of anything smoky right now is</v>

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<v Shannon>a little unappealing.</v>

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<v Jeff>This is called Musa, and it's a grad ski style.</v>

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<v Greg>yeah so i don't know much about the grad ski style uh</v>

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<v Greg>other than um that's what it says it is it's a historical</v>

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<v Greg>beer made from oak smote malt wheat with clear light golden color</v>

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<v Greg>High carbonation, low alcohol content.</v>

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<v Greg>That's what Wikipedia says.</v>

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<v Greg>4.3% on this one.</v>

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<v Greg>Grodzki is spelled G-R-O-D-Z-I-S-K-I-E.</v>

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<v Shannon>Well, first thing I'd like to point out is it does not</v>

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<v Shannon>smell like it does outside.</v>

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<v Greg>No, I mean, what we get outside is like the combination of</v>

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<v Greg>smog and all that other stuff.</v>

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<v Jeff>I was reading about this, like why doesn't the wildfire smoke smell</v>

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<v Jeff>like campfires, right?</v>

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<v Jeff>And that's because when the smoke...</v>

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<v Jeff>It's volatile.</v>

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<v Jeff>It comes off a campfire and there's other things in it when</v>

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<v Jeff>it gets up into the air and UV hits it, it changes</v>

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<v Jeff>it.</v>

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<v Jeff>And one of the main components we're smelling is benzene, which is</v>

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<v Jeff>not good for humans to breathe in large quantities for prolonged periods</v>

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<v Jeff>of time.</v>

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<v Greg>No, I've been fortunate that I've been indoors for most of the</v>

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<v Greg>time that this has happened.</v>

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<v Jeff>was only i went over to provo haven i was outside for</v>

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<v Jeff>like five minutes inspecting something on the outside of the building and</v>

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<v Jeff>my throat started to get scratchy that's how quickly it started feeling</v>

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<v Jeff>it yeah</v>

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<v Greg>Well, this is this has a lot of smoke on it</v>

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<v Greg>not like a campfire more reminds me of like peat smoke it's</v>

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<v Greg>not quite there, but that's more along the lines of where this</v>

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<v Greg>is coming from</v>

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<v Jeff>there's um excuse me there's a moderate kind of like um pete</v>

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<v Jeff>smokes a good call on that i was thinking a little bit</v>

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<v Jeff>almost like um oh nope I'm sorry, I was thinking I wanted</v>

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<v Jeff>to draw like a smoked meat connection, but it's really not there</v>

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<v Jeff>after Yeah.</v>

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<v Jeff>I thought about it more.</v>

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<v Jeff>It's not there.</v>

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<v Jeff>So that's, it's not what I was going to say.</v>

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<v Jeff>There's this big full round to the smoke.</v>

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<v Shannon>To me, it smells like the rub that a dry rub that</v>

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<v Shannon>you would get.</v>

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<v Shannon>That's a smoked dry rub hmm to put on the meat.</v>

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<v Greg>right like that like or smoked salt or something like that yeah</v>

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<v Greg>i think that is kind kind of</v>

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<v Jeff>woodiness too like it reminds me a bit of a cedar type</v>

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<v Jeff>smell even though it's a stretch it's not there but it's reminiscent</v>

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<v Jeff>to me of that</v>

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<v Greg>okay well that it's definitely oak in the taste there's no doubt</v>

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<v Greg>about it that that's oak um</v>

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<v Greg>All right.</v>

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<v Greg>i'm taking a little time because it's almost like overpowering at first</v>

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<v Greg>to me that how much smoky flavor is here it's a lot</v>

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<v Jeff>So they normally use like beechwood or something for smoking German malts.</v>

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<v Jeff>I'm trying to look it up here.</v>

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<v Shannon>Yeah, well, the first sip, I expected it to be smokier than</v>

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<v Shannon>it was, and then I was surprised that you said that, but</v>

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<v Shannon>this second sip was much stronger, so I don't know if I</v>

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<v Shannon>didn't.</v>

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<v Jeff>Take that totally back.</v>

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<v Jeff>Viramin makes a smoked wheat malt.</v>

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<v Greg>okay there's some information on untapped they say that this was brewed</v>

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<v Greg>in in cooperation with this week in rock beer the world's most</v>

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<v Greg>important longest running and most awarded show dedicated to smoked beer i</v>

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<v Greg>like that they're got most important right in the beginning there right</v>

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<v Jeff>week in rock beer.</v>

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<v Greg>Yeah, The most</v>

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we missed important, ours.

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<v Greg>longest-running, and most awarded show dedicated to smoked beer.</v>

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<v Greg>It's probably the only show dedicated to smoked beer, so assuming that's</v>

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<v Greg>the case, I like all of that.</v>

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<v Jeff>Weekly.</v>

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<v Jeff>Yeah.</v>

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<v Jeff>Weekly.</v>

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<v Jeff>This week in.</v>

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<v Greg>This week in, right?</v>

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<v Greg>which I assume is a...</v>

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<v Greg>I assume that's a joke, too.</v>

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<v Jeff>It's great.</v>

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<v Jeff>I think we missed our calling.</v>

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<v Jeff>We should have really focused on craft beer.</v>

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<v Jeff>We should have focused on a specific...</v>

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<v Greg>You should laser focus on a specific style or a specific group</v>

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<v Greg>of styles that no one really makes anymore.</v>

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<v Greg>feel like there's been a campfire in my mouth.</v>

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<v Greg>This might be good if I had a bunch of sausages in</v>

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<v Greg>my hand.</v>

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<v Greg>And I was like chowing down at a beer fest and had</v>

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<v Greg>some sausages and some sauerkraut and yeah.</v>

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<v Greg>I think that pairs well with this kind of thing.</v>

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<v Shannon>I'm thinking of the, those little mini sausages and the crock pot</v>

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<v Shannon>oh,</v>

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<v Greg>Grab some Vienna sausages from.</v>

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<v Shannon>no, no, no, no, no, no, no.</v>

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<v Shannon>But, you know, the crock pot sausages that.</v>

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<v Shannon>They make with the great jelly.</v>

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<v Shannon>I've never made them.</v>

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<v Shannon>I don't know what they mix with them.</v>

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<v Shannon>But anyway, I think they would taste good with that.</v>

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<v Greg>yeah this would be good with food i'm glad to see something</v>

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<v Greg>like this being made i don't know the only the only thing</v>

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<v Greg>is though like i don't know how um i'm not super enthused</v>

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<v Greg>by it though like i love this beer it's But if you</v>

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<v Greg>make one you can get on This Week in Rock Beer.</v>

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<v Greg>you you can i'm curious to see like the other problem about</v>

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<v Greg>this is is it has to be fresh right i mean if</v>

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<v Greg>this wasn't fresh this would taste even worse it would taste even</v>

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<v Greg>more acrid and and stuff like that so you can't like get</v>

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<v Greg>some of this and store it so this is i'm sure this</v>

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<v Greg>is not a year-long year-round offering moreover uh like it's one of</v>

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<v Greg>those things you know i'm glad to see it that they not</v>

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<v Greg>only they make it but they also bottled it and canned it</v>

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<v Greg>and or canned it and put it out there so that's that's</v>

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<v Greg>nice to see but do i like it much not really i'm</v>

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<v Shannon>I do like the label, though.</v>

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<v Shannon>still drinking it though</v>

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<v Jeff>I like the beer.</v>

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<v Jeff>I mean, it's not one you're going to drink, oh, I don't</v>

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<v Jeff>know,</v>

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<v Jeff>but I mean.</v>

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<v Jeff>for a beer and also there's certain beers that are totally enjoyable</v>

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<v Jeff>when you're not laser focused on evaluating them That's right.</v>

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<v Jeff>That's true.</v>

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<v Jeff>like this is one where if you think about it less you</v>

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<v Jeff>might like it more</v>

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<v Greg>At 4.3, it's not going to get you, you know, it's worth</v>

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<v Greg>your sobriety.</v>

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<v Greg>So you're not missing out on, you know, if you get this</v>

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<v Greg>to try it.</v>

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<v Greg>I have three more of these.</v>

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<v Greg>I don't know what I'm going to do with them.</v>

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<v Greg>You're Bacon.</v>

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<v Shannon>Anything with bacon.</v>

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<v Greg>Yeah, yeah, yes, right.</v>

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<v Greg>Anything smoked.</v>

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<v Jeff>Save them for make your brisket.</v>

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<v Jeff>Yeah,</v>

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<v Greg>Well, brisket's expensive, you know.</v>

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<v Greg>It's just like 70 bucks to get a brisket.</v>

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<v Greg>what's next is...</v>

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<v Greg>I gotta drink up.</v>

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<v Greg>We can wait.</v>

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<v Greg>We can wait for you.</v>

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<v Greg>There's other stuff to talk about, right?</v>

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<v Jeff>I assume.</v>

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<v Jeff>Oh, we should plug the Discord invite.</v>

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<v Jeff>i can we</v>

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<v Greg>just go to the website and if you go to crafterradio.com by</v>

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<v Greg>the time you hear this they'll yeah</v>

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<v Jeff>yeah craft your radio.com there'll be a link for joining the discord</v>

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<v Jeff>um my goal is to like not do email anymore and to</v>

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<v Jeff>like do all the communication as a group a community on discord</v>

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<v Jeff>so if you want to communicate with us and we got some</v>

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<v Jeff>a few other great people in there want to grow it um</v>

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<v Jeff>longtime listeners of the show are already members and uh like So</v>

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<v Jeff>see more people on our discord</v>

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<v Greg>We had a whole big conversation with Greg about the Star Trek</v>

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<v Greg>criticisms that I had last time, which I feel good about getting</v>

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<v Greg>that out.</v>

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<v Greg>More to come sort of on that thing in the next post</v>

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<v Greg>show because there's things that I forgot to mention.</v>

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like not tangentially related so those of you who are bored to

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<v Shannon>I'll rinse my glass.</v>

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<v Greg>really was that it was that long ago or that i thought</v>

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<v Greg>not maybe it was more recent i bought it for for the</v>

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<v Greg>show we're like trying stuff that we've seen before Maybe it was.</v>

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<v Shannon>I still need it.</v>

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<v Shannon>Is this better?</v>

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<v Greg>Reefloid zombie dust.</v>

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<v Greg>This was one of those kind of whalish, right?</v>

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<v Greg>Yeah, it was.</v>

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<v Greg>Reefloids at least was.</v>

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<v Jeff>Well, zombie dust was too, but like Three Floyds was always, Dark</v>

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<v Jeff>Lord, their imperial stout was a Yeah,</v>

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<v Greg>dark lord was fantastic.</v>

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<v Jeff>Zombie dust was pretty sought after in the IPA realm when it</v>

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<v Jeff>first came out.</v>

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<v Jeff>And now it's everywhere.</v>

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<v Greg>They called it undead pale ale, 6.5% alcohol by volume, 62 I.</v>

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be you that's weird

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<v Greg>because I didn't rinse my glass super Oh, well oh.</v>

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<v Greg>Bye.</v>

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<v Greg>and I'm getting something that smells kind of like oysters</v>

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<v Greg>That could just be a mix that that couldn't be that might</v>

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<v Jeff>Yes, they call this a pale ale.</v>

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<v Jeff>And for me, the aroma is No, huge</v>

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<v Greg>It's it's much smaller than that.</v>

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<v Greg>This is it happens to be magnified it's but</v>

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<v Jeff>huge on the malt flavor, kind of a bready, biscuity, English kind</v>

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<v Jeff>of malt.</v>

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<v Jeff>I bet your Maris Otter plays a big role in the malt</v>

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<v Jeff>bill on this one.</v>

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<v Jeff>And then that kind of rolls into a more subtle kind of</v>

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<v Jeff>citrus hopping on the.</v>

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<v Jeff>I'm not getting oysters.</v>

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<v Greg>I guess, yeah, it's a weird, like, minerally sea note.</v>

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<v Shannon>To me, it's like a dirty,</v>

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<v Greg>We've talked about urinal smells before, so don't worry about, you know,</v>

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<v Greg>pejorative in terms of smells.</v>

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<v Greg>They're all open.</v>

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<v Greg>I think it's a mineralliness that reminds me of...</v>

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<v Greg>The beach like not the cleanest beach.</v>

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<v Jeff>For me, it's mellow.</v>

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<v Jeff>For me, I'm happy with this.</v>

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<v Jeff>It's a multi-pale ale.</v>

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<v Jeff>gen Oh, that two kind of flavoring and it has a nice</v>

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<v Jeff>balance to it.</v>

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<v Greg>yeah like i said i think the aroma was affected just by</v>

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<v Greg>the the lack of full rinse in the glass yes</v>

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<v Shannon>Yes.</v>

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<v Shannon>And I need to make sure that I'm clear when I say</v>

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<v Shannon>it smells like a dirty damp rag.</v>

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<v Shannon>I think yours there are yeah clean</v>

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yeah it glasses.

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I was it was don't the yeah

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<v Shannon>think this one does mine.</v>

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<v Greg>i agree uh it it's a lot milder like i think the</v>

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<v Greg>notes are there but it's just in my glass with that stuff</v>

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<v Greg>it got turned up to 11</v>

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<v Greg>yeah like this is not overdoing it which i like you know</v>

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<v Greg>i appreciate that about an old ipa like this there was a</v>

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<v Greg>habit of overdoing it especially for like the the whales right</v>

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<v Jeff>Yeah.</v>

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<v Jeff>But there was also a time in evolution of craft beer where</v>

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<v Jeff>this was like on the bleeding edge of hop, you know, the</v>

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<v Jeff>hop arms race.</v>

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<v Jeff>Which is so funny tasting it today.</v>

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It's so much more Malt Forward than, you know, an IPA today.

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<v Greg>So much more, yeah.</v>

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<v Greg>Like Maris Otter is a good call because I think there's definitely</v>

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<v Greg>that more almost caramely note.</v>

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<v Greg>Like it's not just a Pilsner or a Pale Malt here.</v>

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<v Jeff>Yeah, the one with the caramel though, it has kind of a</v>

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<v Jeff>bready fullness to it.</v>

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<v Jeff>It's softer arounder than if they use something like crystal malt.</v>

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<v Jeff>Hmm.</v>

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<v Shannon>Needs to be birdie.</v>

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Mm-hmm.

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<v Jeff>Oh,</v>

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<v Jeff>when they were doing the mash.</v>

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<v Shannon>the Mac, yeah.</v>

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<v Jeff>They did the whiskey mash.</v>

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<v Jeff>Um, You want to talk about it?</v>

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<v Jeff>The submarine.</v>

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<v Jeff>oh yeah, no,</v>

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<v Greg>Let's talk about it.</v>

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<v Greg>so it goes without saying that it's a tragedy people died that's</v>

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<v Greg>that's horrible um it also goes i think it should go without</v>

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<v Greg>saying that there was 750 people who died like in in the</v>

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<v Greg>mediterranean and no one paid any attention to it but this this</v>

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<v Greg>you know five uh Mm-hmm.</v>

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<v Greg>five people thing got huge rescue operation for so there's a little</v>

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<v Greg>there's a weird thing going on there but let's skip past all</v>

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<v Greg>that just we acknowledge it we'll move on to the actual thing</v>

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<v Greg>yeah that sub thing it captured everybody's attention for and i was</v>

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<v Greg>not immune right</v>

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<v Greg>i was absolutely glued to it</v>

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Mm-hmm.

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<v Jeff>it's so I want.</v>

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<v Jeff>Yeah, there's a bunch of different aspects I want to talk about,</v>

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<v Jeff>but let's talk about the kind of strategy it was, why there</v>

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<v Jeff>was the rescues.</v>

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<v Jeff>Right.</v>

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<v Jeff>It was straight up a baby in a well or Apollo 13.</v>

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<v Jeff>You know, it was this far flung out of reach thing.</v>

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<v Jeff>right And for some reason, the human psyche, you know, grapples, grabs</v>

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<v Jeff>onto that and really follows it, you know.</v>

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<v Greg>well i think there's a part of it that's like what if</v>

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<v Greg>i was in it was in that situation that there's a part</v>

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<v Greg>of transporting yourself there and being like i i hope that you</v>

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<v Greg>know it what would that be like and that takes a hold</v>

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<v Greg>of the imagination pretty quickly because it is a it's a scary</v>

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<v Greg>prospect but it's also one that's very outside of the norm Mm</v>

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<v Greg>and</v>

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<v Jeff>-hmm.</v>

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<v Greg>yet still is actually happening at least it turns out it wasn't</v>

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<v Greg>happening but at least potentially actually happening to me what what you</v>

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<v Greg>know it definitely got my attention and kept it the whole time</v>

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<v Greg>but as the more information i got from it the less i</v>

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<v Greg>started to be sympathetic towards uh Mm-hmm.</v>

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<v Greg>the people who were on the sub obviously there was like a</v>

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<v Greg>19 year old that's of like that's his fault but and and</v>

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<v Greg>it's on some degree you know the passengers on the sub some</v>

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<v Greg>degree they should have thought better but also i don't blame them</v>

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<v Greg>as much as i blame the guy uh</v>

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<v Greg>the stockton rush you to me his like i would have no</v>

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<v Greg>problem with it at all if he was just doing this on</v>

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<v Greg>his own i wouldn't even have a problem with the rescue operation</v>

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<v Greg>because you know it's the whole point it should be is you're</v>

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<v Greg>out in the water you rescue somebody if there's a problem you</v>

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<v Greg>do what you can um the problem i had is him selling</v>

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<v Greg>tickets to this ridiculously poorly made and poorly designed and machine that</v>

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<v Greg>he didn't tell anybody about how much like i'm sure they should</v>

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<v Greg>have big disclosure stuff but i'm sure it wasn't listed on there</v>

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<v Greg>we refused to get certification for this we got a letter from</v>

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<v Greg>a bunch of people who do submersibles saying that this was not</v>

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<v Greg>a good idea i'm sure that wasn't on there</v>

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<v Shannon>No, but he was pretty arrogant about it and did both, you</v>

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<v Shannon>know, he.</v>

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<v Shannon>He made multiple comments in the past oh about,</v>

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<v Shannon>you know, how he was going against the recommendations and how people</v>

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<v Shannon>need to take risks and, you know, yeah,</v>

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<v Greg>yeah like sheer force of will can defeat the laws of physics</v>

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<v Greg>and it's</v>

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<v Shannon>and he was just the not how that arrogance is what got</v>

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<v Shannon>me and made me, you know, lose.</v>

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<v Greg>Mm</v>

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<v Shannon>hmm.</v>

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<v Shannon>I was no longer sympathetic, I I</v>

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<v Jeff>think part of that, Greg mentioned the hubris of billionaires, and it</v>

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<v Jeff>got me thinking and you know, you see this kind of thing</v>

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<v Jeff>in Elon Musk, like in business, there's seldom like fatal decisions, right,</v>

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<v Jeff>you know, so like you can make bold decisions, damn the rules,</v>

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<v Jeff>you know, you might get a fine that's just a pittance, you</v>

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<v Jeff>that cars you know whatever but in general just making your day-to-day</v>

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<v Jeff>business decisions not favored right but now you're going you're doing something</v>

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<v Jeff>in the most extreme environment you know and making like going on</v>

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<v Jeff>the feeling that my gut has served me well in the past</v>

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<v Jeff>is where it falls apart i I think</v>

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<v Greg>also think that there is something to be said about this idea</v>

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<v Greg>that has now permeated the culture.</v>

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<v Greg>That if you have made a lot of money somehow, that means</v>

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<v Greg>you're definitely smarter than other people.</v>

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<v Greg>That means that you're intelligent in a way that other people aren't,</v>

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<v Greg>and that people should defer to you on things.</v>

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<v Greg>There's nothing about making a lot of money that is any indicator</v>

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<v Greg>Plenty of idiots have stumbled into being billionaires.</v>

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<v Greg>plenty of people are also can be very smart at one thing</v>

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<v Greg>that doesn't mean that their intelligence doesn't transfer to a bunch of</v>

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<v Greg>stuff i'm pretty smart about physics i don't know anything i don't</v>

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<v Greg>know dick about material science if someone asked me would a carbon</v>

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<v Greg>would have thought i don't know maybe because carbon fiber that sounds</v>

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<v Greg>cool They right yeah</v>

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say it's stronger than steel, right right?

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<v Greg>yeah maybe and you know now after i'm reading all the stuff</v>

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<v Greg>i do that carbon fiber has great tensile strength but not a</v>

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<v Greg>not the best material and it can what people are saying is</v>

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<v Greg>seems to me like when i hear that that seems like this</v>

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<v Greg>is a poor material to make Well, submerged</v>

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<v Jeff>then the other part I heard, I</v>

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<v Jeff>was watching a YouTube kind of a guy in the submersible industry</v>

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<v Jeff>And I guess Dr.</v>

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<v Jeff>know, and not having a bunch of 50 year old white guys</v>

441
00:21:38.081 --> 00:21:38.488
<v Jeff>on staff.</v>

442
00:21:38.488 --> 00:21:42.397
<v Greg>right yeah i heard that that was that got the whole anti-woke</v>

443
00:21:42.397 --> 00:21:45.873
<v Greg>brigade going because oh he said he doesn't want any 50 year</v>

444
00:21:45.873 --> 00:21:49.349
<v Greg>old white guys and the point wasn't the white part it was</v>

445
00:21:49.349 --> 00:21:50.898
<v Greg>the 50 year old part Yeah.</v>

446
00:21:50.898 --> 00:21:55.478
<v Greg>because frankly you're not going to find many 50 year old like</v>

447
00:21:55.478 --> 00:22:00.058
<v Greg>black or hispanic guys who have a lot of experience doing submarine</v>

448
00:22:00.058 --> 00:22:04.086
<v Greg>design and submersible design it's just not likely Oh, there yeah.</v>

449
00:22:04.086 --> 00:22:08.161
<v Greg>aren't that many people who are and the people who had been</v>

450
00:22:08.161 --> 00:22:12.237
<v Greg>in that position were probably going to be white people so it's</v>

451
00:22:12.237 --> 00:22:16.312
<v Greg>but if you look at his staff I think it's almost all</v>

452
00:22:16.312 --> 00:22:20.388
<v Greg>white people so it's not that he had a thing against against</v>

453
00:22:20.388 --> 00:22:22.086
<v Greg>hiring white people you know</v>

454
00:22:24.020 --> 00:22:24.520
I well

455
00:22:24.520 --> 00:22:26.761
<v Jeff>good my point that he doesn't because it didn't involve much of</v>

456
00:22:26.761 --> 00:22:29.628
<v Jeff>my i point wasn't even about it was about the age and</v>

457
00:22:29.628 --> 00:22:30.120
<v Jeff>the experience</v>

458
00:22:30.120 --> 00:22:30.520
know like

459
00:22:30.520 --> 00:22:31.870
<v Jeff>was my main point oh</v>

460
00:22:31.870 --> 00:22:34.914
<v Greg>yeah but i'm like like i'm glad that he didn't just turn</v>

461
00:22:34.914 --> 00:22:37.959
<v Greg>to oh this was a minority crew that's why this happened so</v>

462
00:22:37.959 --> 00:22:38.720
<v Greg>like you got</v>

463
00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:39.920
I got you yeah to be doing half no the year no

464
00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:40.070
yeah

465
00:22:40.070 --> 00:22:42.420
<v Jeff>that's not what I was going for I was going with like</v>

466
00:22:42.420 --> 00:22:44.770
<v Jeff>well when you hire a bunch of new college grads you know</v>

467
00:22:45.620 --> 00:22:48.655
<v Jeff>You know, maybe it would be nice to have someone with 30</v>

468
00:22:48.655 --> 00:22:52.970
<v Jeff>years of submersible experience saying yeah yeah like, hey, guys.</v>

469
00:22:55.020 --> 00:22:59.458
<v Greg>there and and apparently there were some people like that but they</v>

470
00:22:59.458 --> 00:23:03.895
<v Greg>got got you know because this guy was trying to make the</v>

471
00:23:03.895 --> 00:23:08.333
<v Greg>world submit to his will and he had the money to do</v>

472
00:23:08.333 --> 00:23:12.771
<v Greg>that for this for around him that's the whole reality distortion field</v>

473
00:23:12.771 --> 00:23:20.213
<v Greg>affected money can do but again if he would have just made</v>

474
00:23:20.213 --> 00:23:24.165
<v Greg>his own sub then okay you know look some people want to</v>

475
00:23:24.165 --> 00:23:28.117
<v Greg>climb mount everest right i mean some people want to do dangerous</v>

476
00:23:28.117 --> 00:23:32.069
<v Greg>things and if you do dangerous things and you want to be</v>

477
00:23:32.069 --> 00:23:36.021
<v Greg>experimental about it and you're putting yourself in there and that's it</v>

478
00:23:36.021 --> 00:23:39.973
<v Greg>okay i get it you that's what your money is for to</v>

479
00:23:39.973 --> 00:23:42.608
<v Greg>some extent right go for it selling tickets</v>

480
00:23:42.858 --> 00:23:43.408
Right.

481
00:23:43.956 --> 00:23:46.156
inviting people to come making

482
00:23:48.756 --> 00:23:52.461
<v Greg>a big deal out of it and apparently so there there is</v>

483
00:23:52.461 --> 00:23:56.166
<v Greg>another angle of this which is that they wanted to get into</v>

484
00:23:56.166 --> 00:23:59.870
<v Greg>business or at least this is what i've read so i don't</v>

485
00:23:59.870 --> 00:24:03.575
<v Greg>know how far this goes but one of their things they wanted</v>

486
00:24:03.575 --> 00:24:07.280
<v Greg>to get into business of was designing submarines for oil companies so</v>

487
00:24:07.280 --> 00:24:13.184
<v Greg>this was really in in this angle this was just his way</v>

488
00:24:13.184 --> 00:24:17.851
<v Greg>of doing the design part getting that done iteratively and quickly so</v>

489
00:24:17.851 --> 00:24:22.517
<v Greg>that he could start selling submarines to so start making the real</v>

490
00:24:22.517 --> 00:24:27.184
<v Greg>money selling it to like exxon and and bp and stuff like</v>

491
00:24:27.184 --> 00:24:27.334
<v Greg>Ah.</v>

492
00:24:27.334 --> 00:24:31.847
<v Greg>that so it even kind of puts him in a worse light</v>

493
00:24:31.847 --> 00:24:36.959
<v Greg>because it's like all of this the fantasy of going titanic might</v>

494
00:24:36.959 --> 00:24:41.319
<v Greg>be just a smoke screen about this is a way to to</v>

495
00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:45.678
<v Greg>pay off development costs when it's like you're a billionaire just spend</v>

496
00:24:45.678 --> 00:24:50.037
<v Greg>the money if that's what you want to do james cameron right</v>

497
00:24:50.037 --> 00:24:54.397
<v Greg>spent that kind of money made is something go into the deepest</v>

498
00:24:54.397 --> 00:24:58.756
<v Greg>part the challenger deep deepest part of the marianas trench spent three</v>

499
00:24:58.756 --> 00:25:02.602
<v Greg>years on the On the computer level designing Mm hmm.</v>

500
00:25:02.602 --> 00:25:02.852
it Yeah.

501
00:25:02.852 --> 00:25:06.102
<v Greg>did not take any of this stuff for granted.</v>

502
00:25:06.352 --> 00:25:12.705
Didn't say I know better than the submarine designers because I made

503
00:25:12.705 --> 00:25:15.352
a movie about a Terminator.

504
00:25:16.052 --> 00:25:16.652
<v Jeff>Yeah.</v>

505
00:25:16.752 --> 00:25:17.352
<v Jeff>All right.</v>

506
00:25:17.352 --> 00:25:19.452
<v Jeff>So this beer is a beer that.</v>

507
00:25:21.908 --> 00:25:25.122
<v Jeff>It's called Atta Boy is the brewery and this beer is called</v>

508
00:25:25.122 --> 00:25:25.658
<v Jeff>Farm Boy.</v>

509
00:25:25.708 --> 00:25:26.858
<v Jeff>Ooh, They is it on a farm?</v>

510
00:25:26.858 --> 00:25:27.908
<v Jeff>were in Frederick, Maryland.</v>

511
00:25:28.358 --> 00:25:32.758
<v Jeff>We picked this up on the way home from the beach last</v>

512
00:25:32.758 --> 00:25:33.208
Probably.

513
00:25:33.208 --> 00:25:33.508
<v Shannon>Does Mm-hmm.</v>

514
00:25:33.508 --> 00:25:33.558
year.

515
00:25:33.558 --> 00:25:34.308
Had to have been.

516
00:25:34.308 --> 00:25:35.158
it smell like a farmhouse?

517
00:25:35.158 --> 00:25:37.858
<v Jeff>It was bottled on 6-24-21.</v>

518
00:25:38.358 --> 00:25:38.658
<v Jeff>Yeah.</v>

519
00:25:38.658 --> 00:25:41.158
<v Jeff>It's about a 1-26 of 180.</v>

520
00:25:44.408 --> 00:25:47.358
<v Jeff>But they have a bunch of sour stuff going on there.</v>

521
00:25:49.300 --> 00:25:51.600
<v Jeff>Really, that was the brewery with the front Oh, room and yeah.</v>

522
00:25:51.600 --> 00:25:52.700
<v Jeff>the back room, remember then?</v>

523
00:25:54.250 --> 00:25:58.217
<v Greg>This beer has been aging for 16 months in red wine barrels</v>

524
00:25:58.217 --> 00:26:00.200
<v Greg>with a blend of delicious bugs.</v>

525
00:26:01.600 --> 00:26:03.050
<v Greg>I mean, they're yeast.</v>

526
00:26:03.850 --> 00:26:04.550
The culture.

527
00:26:04.550 --> 00:26:05.000
Yeah.

528
00:26:06.450 --> 00:26:07.000
All right,

529
00:26:07.050 --> 00:26:08.750
<v Jeff>so the beer is hazy golden.</v>

530
00:26:09.812 --> 00:26:11.962
<v Jeff>hmm it has a lot of character on it And</v>

531
00:26:11.962 --> 00:26:12.362
there's

532
00:26:12.362 --> 00:26:16.412
<v Jeff>the aroma is, you know, long sourdough, right?</v>

533
00:26:16.462 --> 00:26:19.153
<v Jeff>So there's this tangy thing to it.</v>

534
00:26:19.153 --> 00:26:22.612
<v Jeff>It's a little bit straw and leather and dusty.</v>

535
00:26:23.062 --> 00:26:24.862
a dirtiness to it there's

536
00:26:27.412 --> 00:26:32.712
<v Jeff>that that coiled rope thing yep musty wood</v>

537
00:26:35.796 --> 00:26:40.559
<v Greg>yeah like a damp cellar a little bit there's you know funky</v>

538
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:42.146
<v Greg>things in here peppery</v>

539
00:26:47.296 --> 00:26:47.696
Hmm.

540
00:26:50.696 --> 00:26:52.196
okay definitely

541
00:26:53.696 --> 00:26:55.646
<v Greg>has some interesting bugs in it like</v>

542
00:26:57.746 --> 00:26:59.296
<v Jeff>there's a lot going on here Yep.</v>

543
00:26:59.346 --> 00:26:59.546
<v Jeff>Yeah.</v>

544
00:26:59.596 --> 00:27:01.421
<v Jeff>And so where to start?</v>

545
00:27:01.421 --> 00:27:02.151
<v Jeff>It's tangy.</v>

546
00:27:02.151 --> 00:27:03.246
<v Jeff>It's very dry.</v>

547
00:27:04.212 --> 00:27:10.812
<v Jeff>there's kind of a green grape skin thing there's yeah</v>

548
00:27:12.512 --> 00:27:12.912
Hmm.

549
00:27:15.762 --> 00:27:17.862
<v Greg>There's a little bit of like copperiness.</v>

550
00:27:20.012 --> 00:27:22.062
There's oak again,

551
00:27:22.162 --> 00:27:23.612
<v Greg>not smoked oak,</v>

552
00:27:23.662 --> 00:27:26.112
but just sort of charred oak.

553
00:27:26.562 --> 00:27:28.962
There's tannic

554
00:27:28.962 --> 00:27:30.612
<v Jeff>it's pretty heavy minerality and yeah</v>

555
00:27:30.612 --> 00:27:31.412
<v Greg>notes.</v>

556
00:27:33.172 --> 00:27:35.872
<v Greg>A red wine barrel, so that doesn't surprise me.</v>

557
00:27:37.972 --> 00:27:40.672
<v Greg>Okay, so yeah, it starts out tangy.</v>

558
00:27:40.672 --> 00:27:44.172
<v Greg>It goes kind of minerally and vaguely metallic.</v>

559
00:27:44.322 --> 00:27:52.722
<v Greg>It ends dusty and with a sort of sour echo.</v>

560
00:27:55.972 --> 00:27:56.622
<v Greg>That's delicious.</v>

561
00:27:58.172 --> 00:27:59.722
<v Greg>I don't know if I'd call it that.</v>

562
00:27:59.722 --> 00:28:00.172
<v Greg>No,</v>

563
00:28:00.222 --> 00:28:00.822
I I

564
00:28:00.822 --> 00:28:00.972
<v Greg>do.</v>

565
00:28:00.972 --> 00:28:01.872
<v Greg>think it's very interesting.</v>

566
00:28:02.772 --> 00:28:04.172
<v Greg>I don't think it's not.</v>

567
00:28:07.222 --> 00:28:09.622
<v Greg>Not every aspect of that flavor is delicious to me.</v>

568
00:28:10.572 --> 00:28:10.872
Okay.

569
00:28:10.872 --> 00:28:13.272
<v Greg>About 74% of it is delicious.</v>

570
00:28:13.872 --> 00:28:17.072
And the other part, not convinced on.

571
00:28:17.422 --> 00:28:17.972
Okay.

572
00:28:18.472 --> 00:28:20.022
<v Shannon>I just like the complexity.</v>

573
00:28:20.172 --> 00:28:23.072
<v Greg>I love I absolutely adore the complexity.</v>

574
00:28:23.872 --> 00:28:26.985
<v Greg>And I'm not I'm not saying that in any way to make</v>

575
00:28:26.985 --> 00:28:28.022
<v Greg>shade on this beer.</v>

576
00:28:28.122 --> 00:28:28.522
<v Greg>I think it's.</v>

577
00:28:29.172 --> 00:28:33.813
<v Greg>as a piece of as a beer i think it's fantastic i'm</v>

578
00:28:33.813 --> 00:28:38.454
<v Greg>just there are beers that i've had that have been really complex</v>

579
00:28:38.454 --> 00:28:42.772
<v Greg>like this but i've liked every bit of the flavor Yeah, and</v>

580
00:28:42.772 --> 00:28:42.972
<v Greg>yeah.</v>

581
00:28:42.972 --> 00:28:50.122
<v Greg>here there's some things that are that are said it that are</v>

582
00:28:50.708 --> 00:28:54.897
<v Greg>pulling it off not necessarily in a bad way but just in</v>

583
00:28:54.897 --> 00:28:59.086
<v Greg>a way that's very unique that I'm not necessarily used to so</v>

584
00:28:59.086 --> 00:29:03.275
<v Greg>I'm trying to digest all of that while I'm having this but</v>

585
00:29:03.275 --> 00:29:07.464
<v Greg>it doesn't make me think this is I don't feel like this</v>

586
00:29:07.464 --> 00:29:09.558
<v Greg>is the most delicious farmhouse I've</v>

587
00:29:09.558 --> 00:29:11.058
<v Jeff>That's not the most delicious.</v>

588
00:29:11.158 --> 00:29:12.758
<v Jeff>I'd still consider it.</v>

589
00:29:14.228 --> 00:29:17.957
<v Jeff>I think I'd still go with delicious, though just the way it,</v>

590
00:29:17.957 --> 00:29:23.307
<v Jeff>the beginning of the taste where it has that kind of apricot</v>

591
00:29:23.307 --> 00:29:26.428
<v Jeff>and the tanginess and the minerality and</v>

592
00:29:26.428 --> 00:29:27.428
<v Greg>Apricot that's a really good call Yeah,</v>

593
00:29:27.428 --> 00:29:28.178
for things I like was trying

594
00:29:28.178 --> 00:29:31.953
<v Jeff>that, you know, that part just really grabs me and it has</v>

595
00:29:31.953 --> 00:29:35.728
<v Jeff>me for the rest of the flavor, you know, through the finish.</v>

596
00:29:36.878 --> 00:29:39.778
<v Jeff>Super excited when I found this one in the fridge, there was</v>

597
00:29:39.778 --> 00:29:41.228
<v Jeff>another one sitting right beside it.</v>

598
00:29:41.012 --> 00:29:42.512
<v Jeff>excited so we have another Oh, bottle of this so</v>

599
00:29:42.512 --> 00:29:42.612
lucky

600
00:29:42.612 --> 00:29:43.112
<v Jeff>Good.</v>

601
00:29:43.112 --> 00:29:43.712
you.

602
00:29:44.212 --> 00:29:47.562
i think it's from the same bottling but yeah

603
00:29:48.662 --> 00:29:52.546
<v Shannon>Yeah, I was trying to pick out the fruit and I'm glad</v>

604
00:29:52.546 --> 00:29:54.812
<v Shannon>you said apricot because that is what</v>

605
00:29:54.812 --> 00:29:55.862
<v Greg>Very good call, yeah.</v>

606
00:29:56.062 --> 00:29:58.562
<v Shannon>For what it is that I'm picking up on.</v>

607
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.452
<v Jeff>It's it's not it's not exactly fresh apricot.</v>

608
00:30:02.452 --> 00:30:03.985
<v Jeff>It's not exactly dried apricot.</v>

609
00:30:03.985 --> 00:30:07.050
<v Jeff>It's like somewhere in between for me like where it's</v>

610
00:30:07.350 --> 00:30:11.874
<v Greg>there's some bits of some kind of melon there's some sort of</v>

611
00:30:11.874 --> 00:30:16.398
<v Greg>melon like aspects on the outer here i think there might it</v>

612
00:30:16.398 --> 00:30:20.922
<v Greg>might be like water not watermelon like um what's the green one</v>

613
00:30:20.922 --> 00:30:25.446
<v Greg>i can't i think of cantaloupe it like no that's honeydew honeydew</v>

614
00:30:25.446 --> 00:30:26.200
<v Greg>thank you</v>

615
00:30:29.076 --> 00:30:29.376
Hmm.

616
00:30:31.576 --> 00:30:34.426
<v Greg>What I would say, not one of my favorite melons.</v>

617
00:30:34.776 --> 00:30:37.226
<v Greg>Too sweet, at least when I last time I've had it.</v>

618
00:30:37.826 --> 00:30:42.576
<v Greg>But it has a pretty unique flavor and a brightness to it.</v>

619
00:30:44.376 --> 00:30:44.826
Hmm.

620
00:30:45.826 --> 00:30:46.726
<v Shannon>I want to know.</v>

621
00:30:48.376 --> 00:30:49.476
So Have you ever seen it the rain?

622
00:30:49.476 --> 00:30:52.276
<v Shannon>aged in a red wine barrel?</v>

623
00:30:52.876 --> 00:30:53.076
Yes.

624
00:30:53.076 --> 00:30:53.626
<v Greg>And Yeah.</v>

625
00:30:53.626 --> 00:30:54.776
<v Shannon>I would love to know.</v>

626
00:30:56.436 --> 00:30:58.536
<v Shannon>What type of So with red wine?</v>

627
00:30:58.536 --> 00:31:05.024
<v Jeff>a beer like this, it probably wasn't, wine wasn't the beverage previously</v>

628
00:31:05.024 --> 00:31:07.186
<v Jeff>in it most likely.</v>

629
00:31:07.336 --> 00:31:10.571
<v Jeff>They probably had a wine barrel that they got inoculated with the</v>

630
00:31:10.571 --> 00:31:13.536
<v Jeff>bugs they want and it's probably brewed a few different beers.</v>

631
00:31:13.636 --> 00:31:18.436
<v Jeff>So like the grape juice is probably a couple generations away.</v>

632
00:31:19.860 --> 00:31:22.860
<v Jeff>You know, I mean, the beer doesn't look like there was like</v>

633
00:31:22.860 --> 00:31:24.760
<v Jeff>much color picked up from the No.</v>

634
00:31:24.760 --> 00:31:25.060
barrel.

635
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:29.768
<v Jeff>So I'm guessing the barrel was used several times getting inoculated and</v>

636
00:31:29.768 --> 00:31:34.376
<v Jeff>now it's a sour barrel that used to be a red wine</v>

637
00:31:34.376 --> 00:31:34.760
<v Jeff>barrel.</v>

638
00:31:35.560 --> 00:31:36.060
Now,

639
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:40.060
<v Jeff>I'm not saying the red wine doesn't impart any of the flavor</v>

640
00:31:40.060 --> 00:31:41.360
<v Jeff>characteristics that we're tasting.</v>

641
00:31:41.660 --> 00:31:45.260
<v Jeff>I'm just pointing out that it's not the red wine juice that's...</v>

642
00:31:45.908 --> 00:31:46.158
affecting

643
00:31:46.158 --> 00:31:46.458
<v Jeff>Right.</v>

644
00:31:46.458 --> 00:31:46.758
<v Jeff>whiskey.</v>

645
00:31:47.358 --> 00:31:51.458
<v Greg>I can see that this is probably like a couple beers in,</v>

646
00:31:51.558 --> 00:31:55.533
<v Greg>especially with the color, Color because you would expect some If of</v>

647
00:31:55.533 --> 00:31:56.358
<v Greg>that to be</v>

648
00:31:56.358 --> 00:31:56.508
it was clear.

649
00:31:56.508 --> 00:31:57.508
the first one, The first yeah, one would be.

650
00:31:57.508 --> 00:31:57.958
it would definitely be.

651
00:31:57.958 --> 00:32:00.058
<v Greg>it would have a ruby color or something to it.</v>

652
00:32:02.258 --> 00:32:06.991
<v Greg>But I mean, like those are typically, you know, oak barrels that</v>

653
00:32:06.991 --> 00:32:11.608
<v Greg>are charred similar to whiskey barrels, but then used differently.</v>

654
00:32:12.500 --> 00:32:16.930
<v Greg>for for the way in which the the wine is treated but</v>

655
00:32:16.930 --> 00:32:21.360
<v Greg>which again not super up to date on or really never was</v>

656
00:32:21.360 --> 00:32:25.789
<v Greg>that into why i know much more about beer production than wine</v>

657
00:32:25.789 --> 00:32:29.850
<v Greg>production but i imagine there's a lot of similar things all</v>

658
00:32:29.850 --> 00:32:35.700
<v Jeff>Yeah, I mean, I know just an infinite amount about it.</v>

659
00:32:37.900 --> 00:32:41.206
<v Greg>right so Interesting beers to start with.</v>

660
00:32:42.106 --> 00:32:43.706
<v Greg>Let's go to the other hop farm.</v>

661
00:32:44.856 --> 00:32:45.756
I think.

662
00:32:46.456 --> 00:32:46.906
Yeah.

663
00:32:47.606 --> 00:32:50.506
<v Greg>So I may have seen a style before.</v>

664
00:32:51.456 --> 00:32:52.756
I don't remember.

665
00:32:53.606 --> 00:32:54.656
<v Greg>Golden Stout?</v>

666
00:32:56.406 --> 00:32:58.993
<v Jeff>I've known of a few that make it.</v>

667
00:32:58.993 --> 00:33:01.256
<v Jeff>The idea is that they don't use.</v>

668
00:33:02.004 --> 00:33:06.016
<v Jeff>chocolate malt and roast barley but they try to bring the body</v>

669
00:33:06.016 --> 00:33:10.029
<v Jeff>and the flavors of stouts into it so it's kind of an</v>

670
00:33:10.029 --> 00:33:12.704
<v Jeff>optical illusion or something like hmm that yeah</v>

671
00:33:12.704 --> 00:33:17.460
<v Greg>so this is actually maybe you might want to hold off on</v>

672
00:33:17.460 --> 00:33:22.215
<v Greg>this this is a golden s'mores style is that what this is</v>

673
00:33:22.215 --> 00:33:23.404
<v Greg>purifying flame all</v>

674
00:33:23.404 --> 00:33:24.404
<v Jeff>but i've</v>

675
00:33:24.404 --> 00:33:24.754
right already it's

676
00:33:24.754 --> 00:33:27.968
<v Jeff>i knew open okay it was a s'more stout and i still</v>

677
00:33:27.968 --> 00:33:29.204
<v Jeff>still picked it so</v>

678
00:33:30.964 --> 00:33:32.614
Golden s'mores stout.

679
00:33:35.864 --> 00:33:38.684
<v Greg>They have a beer called dumb little boxes inspired by the boxy</v>

680
00:33:38.684 --> 00:33:40.564
<v Greg>watermelons you see in Japan in the summertime.</v>

681
00:33:44.664 --> 00:33:45.164
Alright,

682
00:33:45.214 --> 00:33:50.114
<v Jeff>so this beer pours pretty clear, just a light haze to it.</v>

683
00:33:50.214 --> 00:33:54.171
<v Jeff>It's a golden, like a deep golden, not like a pale straw</v>

684
00:33:54.171 --> 00:33:56.714
<v Jeff>or anything, but like a rich golden hue.</v>

685
00:33:58.068 --> 00:34:05.468
<v Jeff>light head that went away quickly oh the aroma is chocolate kind</v>

686
00:34:05.468 --> 00:34:06.418
Cocoa.

687
00:34:06.418 --> 00:34:10.664
<v Jeff>of like like yeah it's cocoa or like chocolate syrup kind of</v>

688
00:34:10.664 --> 00:34:11.018
<v Jeff>aroma</v>

689
00:34:11.168 --> 00:34:11.818
Oh yeah.

690
00:34:12.118 --> 00:34:16.168
<v Greg>Brewed with blonde roast oat Maris Otter and honey malts.</v>

691
00:34:17.218 --> 00:34:20.368
<v Greg>Condition on toasted marshmallow milk chocolate and graham cracker.</v>

692
00:34:21.318 --> 00:34:22.718
<v Greg>7.5%.</v>

693
00:34:24.148 --> 00:34:28.736
<v Greg>it's definitely a golden color although it's got some haze to it</v>

694
00:34:28.736 --> 00:34:30.648
<v Greg>it's not crystal clear well</v>

695
00:34:30.648 --> 00:34:31.948
A little

696
00:34:34.598 --> 00:34:36.848
<v Jeff>bit of an oily note from the chocolate, I think.</v>

697
00:34:41.848 --> 00:34:45.771
<v Greg>it is blonde roast oat so that means there's going to be</v>

698
00:34:45.771 --> 00:34:49.694
<v Greg>some the the oat character is going to give at least some</v>

699
00:34:49.694 --> 00:34:52.278
<v Greg>like michelage to it.</v>

700
00:34:57.028 --> 00:34:58.828
<v Jeff>On to the flavor of the chocolate rules.</v>

701
00:34:59.878 --> 00:35:03.728
<v Jeff>The barley malt comes in next.</v>

702
00:35:03.828 --> 00:35:07.860
<v Jeff>The chocolate and the marshmallows and I think the fermented out sugars</v>

703
00:35:07.860 --> 00:35:11.892
<v Jeff>from that gives it this like kind of chalky dryness at the</v>

704
00:35:11.892 --> 00:35:12.228
<v Jeff>end.</v>

705
00:35:12.428 --> 00:35:14.778
<v Jeff>Kind of rakes across your tongue and dries out real quick.</v>

706
00:35:17.778 --> 00:35:20.828
<v Greg>This is reminding me of an over sweet Tootsie Roll.</v>

707
00:35:22.644 --> 00:35:24.094
<v Greg>I do think it's over sweet.</v>

708
00:35:24.744 --> 00:35:27.094
I think that the

709
00:35:29.644 --> 00:35:31.544
<v Jeff>hops taste out of tune with the two it kind</v>

710
00:35:31.544 --> 00:35:32.094
hops of gives it a are twang

711
00:35:32.094 --> 00:35:37.144
<v Greg>over bitter and they're not attacking the right part of the sweetness.</v>

712
00:35:37.444 --> 00:35:41.222
<v Greg>yeah it kind of twangs on you it's Yeah, I don't think</v>

713
00:35:41.222 --> 00:35:43.444
<v Greg>this is very well constructed.</v>

714
00:35:48.884 --> 00:35:50.084
<v Jeff>You got nothing to say?</v>

715
00:35:50.084 --> 00:35:52.284
<v Shannon>I really like You allow it?</v>

716
00:35:52.284 --> 00:35:52.734
<v Shannon>it.</v>

717
00:35:52.734 --> 00:35:52.984
Really?

718
00:35:53.034 --> 00:35:53.584
<v Shannon>That's fine.</v>

719
00:35:53.684 --> 00:35:54.284
<v Jeff>You're allowed.</v>

720
00:35:54.584 --> 00:35:55.584
<v Jeff>What do you like about it?</v>

721
00:35:56.334 --> 00:35:59.384
Well, the chocolate,

722
00:35:59.584 --> 00:36:01.484
<v Shannon>the sweetness.</v>

723
00:36:02.434 --> 00:36:06.934
<v Shannon>I taste a lot of vanilla in it.</v>

724
00:36:07.534 --> 00:36:13.134
<v Shannon>And I guess it's the graham cracker.</v>

725
00:36:15.220 --> 00:36:16.870
That I'm fine.

726
00:36:19.170 --> 00:36:22.887
<v Greg>I'm looking for purifying flame online, and mostly I get a World</v>

727
00:36:22.887 --> 00:36:23.720
<v Greg>of Warcraft spell.</v>

728
00:36:28.148 --> 00:36:30.448
<v Jeff>The more I drink it, the more chemically it's coming across.</v>

729
00:36:30.548 --> 00:36:33.848
<v Jeff>That chocolate oil-y whatever it is is coming across more like</v>

730
00:36:33.848 --> 00:36:34.798
<v Greg>it to me flavored.</v>

731
00:36:34.798 --> 00:36:38.889
<v Greg>it's that sweetness that just feels like when i was in when</v>

732
00:36:38.889 --> 00:36:42.980
<v Greg>i was at hershey park and i went on the little ride</v>

733
00:36:42.980 --> 00:36:46.048
<v Greg>and and they spray like the chocolate smell uh</v>

734
00:36:46.048 --> 00:36:47.148
<v Shannon>Oh, yeah.</v>

735
00:36:47.598 --> 00:36:52.655
<v Greg>-huh it's like that and that's and that is as artificial as</v>

736
00:36:52.655 --> 00:36:56.448
<v Greg>they come and it feels a lot like that</v>

737
00:36:58.516 --> 00:37:01.791
<v Shannon>yeah the more i'm drinking it that less i like Yeah, it</v>

738
00:37:01.791 --> 00:37:01.916
<v Shannon>actually</v>

739
00:37:01.916 --> 00:37:03.716
<v Jeff>those first couple sips were passable.</v>

740
00:37:03.766 --> 00:37:07.016
<v Jeff>And then now that I'm like halfway into my sample, which was</v>

741
00:37:07.016 --> 00:37:09.116
<v Jeff>only four ounces, it's</v>

742
00:37:09.116 --> 00:37:10.241
<v Greg>I'm going to dump this.</v>

743
00:37:10.241 --> 00:37:11.591
<v Greg>This is not worth my sobriety.</v>

744
00:37:11.591 --> 00:37:12.266
<v Greg>This is 7.5%.</v>

745
00:37:12.266 --> 00:37:13.616
<v Jeff>kind of squeezed in here.</v>

746
00:37:13.716 --> 00:37:15.416
<v Jeff>If you can dump mine as well.</v>

747
00:37:19.266 --> 00:37:21.016
<v Jeff>Well, Greg is doing that.</v>

748
00:37:21.516 --> 00:37:24.266
<v Jeff>I want to talk real quickly about.</v>

749
00:37:25.396 --> 00:37:26.696
<v Jeff>Let's see what I have on the list here.</v>

750
00:37:27.646 --> 00:37:29.746
<v Jeff>Did I mention sign up for a Discord?</v>

751
00:37:29.896 --> 00:37:30.696
<v Jeff>Yeah, I did.</v>

752
00:37:30.746 --> 00:37:30.996
<v Jeff>Okay.</v>

753
00:37:31.096 --> 00:37:34.296
<v Jeff>So, oh, I saw this ad for Freedom Mobile.</v>

754
00:37:35.296 --> 00:37:36.046
I'm right here.

755
00:37:36.046 --> 00:37:41.596
<v Jeff>Freedom Mobile is the America's only conservative mobile network provider.</v>

756
00:37:43.346 --> 00:37:43.846
What,

757
00:37:43.896 --> 00:37:46.146
<v Jeff>Greg, if you can't pick up on Greg, he says, what does</v>

758
00:37:46.146 --> 00:37:46.596
<v Jeff>that mean?</v>

759
00:37:46.696 --> 00:37:50.216
<v Jeff>And I was hoping when I looked into it that it was</v>

760
00:37:50.216 --> 00:37:51.096
<v Jeff>just some company.</v>

761
00:37:51.828 --> 00:37:57.305
<v Jeff>trying to like scam like america people like to conservative america people</v>

762
00:37:57.305 --> 00:38:02.782
<v Jeff>like oh yeah i don't have that liberal liberal cell phone company</v>

763
00:38:02.782 --> 00:38:08.259
<v Jeff>and it's it's actually way way worse it's a it's a pack</v>

764
00:38:08.259 --> 00:38:12.522
<v Jeff>and they go Oh as far they go as far as to</v>

765
00:38:12.522 --> 00:38:16.789
<v Jeff>like in texas they've taken over several school boards and things like</v>

766
00:38:16.789 --> 00:38:19.278
<v Jeff>that so the phone company yeah yeah</v>

767
00:38:21.236 --> 00:38:24.350
<v Greg>Well, first of all, the first thing that comes to mind is</v>

768
00:38:24.350 --> 00:38:26.686
<v Greg>name me a phone company that isn't a conservative.</v>

769
00:38:26.686 --> 00:38:29.786
<v Jeff>A liberal phone company like those mega corporations, Right.</v>

770
00:38:29.786 --> 00:38:30.036
<v Jeff>right?</v>

771
00:38:30.736 --> 00:38:31.236
Yeah,

772
00:38:31.436 --> 00:38:34.286
<v Greg>Verizon, real liberal bastion there.</v>

773
00:38:35.986 --> 00:38:39.222
<v Greg>Just because they put out a flag for, you know, they put</v>

774
00:38:39.222 --> 00:38:42.457
<v Greg>on their website a little flag for Pride Day does not mean</v>

775
00:38:42.457 --> 00:38:43.536
<v Greg>they're a liberal organization.</v>

776
00:38:46.324 --> 00:38:49.774
<v Greg>All right, what's If anything, that probably shows they probably aren't.</v>

777
00:38:50.524 --> 00:38:53.624
<v Greg>Because they're just doing it to placate people.</v>

778
00:38:57.424 --> 00:38:58.274
All right,

779
00:38:58.274 --> 00:38:59.674
<v Jeff>He's we got a beer unraveling.</v>

780
00:38:59.674 --> 00:39:00.974
<v Jeff>here from Burial.</v>

781
00:39:01.124 --> 00:39:04.899
<v Jeff>Oh, I thought that was like You thought that was, well, a</v>

782
00:39:04.899 --> 00:39:04.974
<v Jeff>Linden.</v>

783
00:39:04.974 --> 00:39:06.224
<v Jeff>I think that's what it's supposed to be like.</v>

784
00:39:06.224 --> 00:39:07.174
<v Jeff>Like, yeah.</v>

785
00:39:07.874 --> 00:39:09.074
<v Jeff>Oh, Lindemann's, it's.</v>

786
00:39:10.324 --> 00:39:10.774
<v Jeff>Weefmans.</v>

787
00:39:10.774 --> 00:39:15.774
<v Jeff>Liefman's yeah you got what it was yeah fall This is Burials</v>

788
00:39:15.774 --> 00:39:18.174
<v Jeff>Fall of the Damned.</v>

789
00:39:18.574 --> 00:39:20.824
of the dams that is not as poetic it's

790
00:39:20.824 --> 00:39:25.824
<v Jeff>Bourbon Barrel Age Red Sour Ale with blackberries and marianberries.</v>

791
00:39:25.824 --> 00:39:28.274
<v Greg>a great way of explaining that that burial is based on metal</v>

792
00:39:29.460 --> 00:39:30.810
<v Greg>which I didn't know.</v>

793
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:31.810
<v Greg>That's cool.</v>

794
00:39:31.860 --> 00:39:36.760
<v Greg>I love the Lovecraftian notes to a lot of those stuff.</v>

795
00:39:37.110 --> 00:39:38.410
<v Greg>But what was it called again?</v>

796
00:39:38.460 --> 00:39:39.460
<v Greg>Burial followed the damned?</v>

797
00:39:39.660 --> 00:39:40.760
<v Jeff>Follow the damned.</v>

798
00:39:41.210 --> 00:39:42.110
<v Jeff>Follow So of the</v>

799
00:39:42.110 --> 00:39:42.260
it damned.

800
00:39:42.260 --> 00:39:47.060
<v Jeff>came wrapped in the red paper like a leafman's for the lambic</v>

801
00:39:47.060 --> 00:39:47.460
<v Jeff>does.</v>

802
00:39:49.010 --> 00:39:55.439
<v Jeff>And it pours like a lambic, a red reddish raspberry framboise kind</v>

803
00:39:55.439 --> 00:39:56.510
<v Jeff>of beer.</v>

804
00:39:57.460 --> 00:39:58.746
<v Jeff>This one doesn't have raspberries.</v>

805
00:39:58.746 --> 00:39:59.260
<v Jeff>It has...</v>

806
00:39:59.260 --> 00:39:59.910
<v Jeff>Blackberry.</v>

807
00:40:00.180 --> 00:40:00.180
<v Greg>like</v>

808
00:40:00.180 --> 00:40:01.080
And Barry Miriam and Barry Berry.

809
00:40:01.080 --> 00:40:04.980
and Barry's it Love,

810
00:40:04.980 --> 00:40:05.380
<v Shannon>And</v>

811
00:40:05.380 --> 00:40:06.030
Bryce.

812
00:40:06.030 --> 00:40:09.830
<v Greg>Miriam Berry was the mayor of DC.</v>

813
00:40:10.730 --> 00:40:12.601
did not do cocaine that's Crack.

814
00:40:12.601 --> 00:40:13.536
It was crack.

815
00:40:13.536 --> 00:40:16.030
that's it Which is a type of cocaine,

816
00:40:16.180 --> 00:40:16.580
<v Greg>but you know.</v>

817
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:18.730
<v Greg>Just want to clear the record.</v>

818
00:40:21.830 --> 00:40:26.142
Alright, that beep set me up, as I remember, was the famous

819
00:40:26.142 --> 00:40:26.730
line.

820
00:40:29.268 --> 00:40:31.968
<v Jeff>how did we get here um Marion</v>

821
00:40:31.968 --> 00:40:32.768
yeah Berry, that's how.

822
00:40:32.768 --> 00:40:33.468
i 8 know .5%.

823
00:40:33.468 --> 00:40:38.768
<v Jeff>the beer has a red hue to it ruby-ish interesting fog to</v>

824
00:40:38.768 --> 00:40:44.068
<v Jeff>it it's fairly cloudy the head is kind of a light lace</v>

825
00:40:46.518 --> 00:40:49.418
<v Greg>So it says it started as a red sour fermented in steel,</v>

826
00:40:49.718 --> 00:40:53.318
<v Greg>inoculated with the culture, laid to rest in bourbon barrels.</v>

827
00:40:54.868 --> 00:41:01.543
<v Greg>then rack back to the barrelhouse eating tanks at 2.5 percent or</v>

828
00:41:01.543 --> 00:41:08.218
<v Greg>getting marian berries and cotala blackberries for a few months and then</v>

829
00:41:08.218 --> 00:41:12.668
<v Greg>bottle condition that's a it's a process it's</v>

830
00:41:13.468 --> 00:41:14.118
It smells a lot real

831
00:41:14.118 --> 00:41:15.318
<v Jeff>of yeah jammy to me.</v>

832
00:41:15.318 --> 00:41:20.256
<v Greg>a lot of yeah a lot of sweetness the jam is a</v>

833
00:41:20.256 --> 00:41:21.492
<v Greg>great Yep.</v>

834
00:41:21.492 --> 00:41:22.642
call because

835
00:41:24.892 --> 00:41:28.951
<v Greg>there's definitely that the sense from the smell of thickness as much</v>

836
00:41:28.951 --> 00:41:30.642
<v Greg>as you can sense that</v>

837
00:41:32.244 --> 00:41:33.432
<v Jeff>Oh, the smell is delicious.</v>

838
00:41:33.432 --> 00:41:35.744
<v Jeff>I could just sniff this one for Yeah, a very</v>

839
00:41:35.744 --> 00:41:36.394
it long time.

840
00:41:36.394 --> 00:41:36.844
smells It's like a...

841
00:41:36.844 --> 00:41:37.188
<v Jeff>sweet.</v>

842
00:41:37.188 --> 00:41:39.594
<v Jeff>It's not any kind of distinct jam.</v>

843
00:41:39.644 --> 00:41:42.244
<v Jeff>It's somewhere in that raspberry.</v>

844
00:41:42.444 --> 00:41:46.144
<v Jeff>It's in that blackberry kind of family, I guess.</v>

845
00:41:46.144 --> 00:41:49.744
<v Greg>I think it's the syrupiness that comes across in the smell.</v>

846
00:41:49.844 --> 00:41:53.144
<v Greg>That's why it smells jammy.</v>

847
00:41:57.780 --> 00:42:00.094
<v Jeff>I think I might be a little bit of, like, sour milk</v>

848
00:42:00.094 --> 00:42:02.380
<v Jeff>or something, like a lactic kind of aroma on it, too.</v>

849
00:42:02.980 --> 00:42:03.480
Well,

850
00:42:03.580 --> 00:42:06.380
<v Jeff>there's lactic stuff in there for sure, by tasting him.</v>

851
00:42:06.930 --> 00:42:07.580
Definitely.

852
00:42:07.780 --> 00:42:13.620
<v Greg>There's, it feels primarily lactic, even though I'm sure there's other stuff</v>

853
00:42:13.620 --> 00:42:15.080
<v Greg>in there too.</v>

854
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.557
<v Greg>But like, I don't taste Brett, like in the last one I</v>

855
00:42:17.557 --> 00:42:18.330
<v Greg>was tasting Brett for sure.</v>

856
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:20.880
<v Greg>Brett and Anisees, for those who aren't aware.</v>

857
00:42:21.180 --> 00:42:25.580
<v Greg>This, which gives it some of that dustiness, some of that, like.</v>

858
00:42:27.700 --> 00:42:29.500
<v Greg>uh ropey Mm howling hmm.</v>

859
00:42:29.500 --> 00:42:32.383
<v Greg>on the desert type because I think it's a little bit of</v>

860
00:42:32.383 --> 00:42:32.650
<v Greg>a journey.</v>

861
00:42:32.650 --> 00:42:32.900
this is my okay

862
00:42:32.900 --> 00:42:36.161
<v Jeff>My second sip was way past that kind of upfront sour and</v>

863
00:42:36.161 --> 00:42:39.150
<v Jeff>I got a little more of that barn kind of flavors.</v>

864
00:42:39.300 --> 00:42:41.500
<v Jeff>So I think it's okay going to open up here on us.</v>

865
00:42:41.500 --> 00:42:43.350
yeah so hmm

866
00:42:44.650 --> 00:42:50.307
<v Greg>yeah that second thing i got something that that's more more bready</v>

867
00:42:50.307 --> 00:42:56.414
<v Greg>for sure bready i should point out not bready it's kind of</v>

868
00:42:56.414 --> 00:43:01.065
<v Greg>although it would go good like with some bread and peanut butter</v>

869
00:43:01.065 --> 00:43:06.373
<v Greg>it's a little sour for that but it would still go pretty</v>

870
00:43:06.373 --> 00:43:06.552
<v Greg>good</v>

871
00:43:08.652 --> 00:43:11.452
<v Shannon>I think it would be a great breakfast beer.</v>

872
00:43:11.952 --> 00:43:12.752
breakfast beer

873
00:43:12.752 --> 00:43:13.552
<v Greg>Mm the -hmm.</v>

874
00:43:13.552 --> 00:43:17.502
<v Greg>only problem with this as a breakfast beer is 8.5% alcohol</v>

875
00:43:17.652 --> 00:43:18.752
Well, okay.

876
00:43:19.796 --> 00:43:19.796
<v Shannon>That</v>

877
00:43:19.796 --> 00:43:20.146
So

878
00:43:20.146 --> 00:43:20.896
<v Shannon>would be that's not worth</v>

879
00:43:20.896 --> 00:43:20.996
it.

880
00:43:20.996 --> 00:43:21.096
it.

881
00:43:21.096 --> 00:43:21.696
Not That's worth it.

882
00:43:21.696 --> 00:43:21.796
it.

883
00:43:21.796 --> 00:43:22.726
That's the only But problem.

884
00:43:22.726 --> 00:43:23.146
if you have...

885
00:43:23.146 --> 00:43:23.446
Okay, But...

886
00:43:23.446 --> 00:43:25.446
<v Greg>weekend day breakfast here, okay?</v>

887
00:43:25.696 --> 00:43:27.446
<v Shannon>Or breakfast for dinner.</v>

888
00:43:27.596 --> 00:43:29.596
<v Greg>No, that's a great time to have breakfast.</v>

889
00:43:29.646 --> 00:43:32.846
<v Greg>Breakfast is a good meal any time you can get it.</v>

890
00:43:33.046 --> 00:43:34.496
So I

891
00:43:34.496 --> 00:43:35.596
<v Jeff>yeah put some</v>

892
00:43:35.596 --> 00:43:35.846
wouldn't

893
00:43:35.846 --> 00:43:36.032
<v Jeff>complain.</v>

894
00:43:36.032 --> 00:43:37.246
<v Jeff>of these waffles down with this Exactly.</v>

895
00:43:37.246 --> 00:43:39.596
<v Jeff>the sweetness of those these waffles with Oh, me oh</v>

896
00:43:39.596 --> 00:43:39.746
yeah.

897
00:43:39.746 --> 00:43:40.096
goodness

898
00:43:40.096 --> 00:43:42.546
<v Greg>Oh, this would just go good with just eggs and toast.</v>

899
00:43:42.896 --> 00:43:45.296
<v Jeff>yeah fattiness of the eggs would kind of go</v>

900
00:43:45.296 --> 00:43:46.196
Would cut through,

901
00:43:46.346 --> 00:43:46.496
<v Jeff>yeah.</v>

902
00:43:48.372 --> 00:43:55.845
<v Greg>But there is complexity here, too, that we shouldn't be missing because</v>

903
00:43:55.845 --> 00:44:02.172
<v Greg>beyond just the sourness, there's more there.</v>

904
00:44:06.422 --> 00:44:10.472
<v Greg>It doesn't quite have the extraordinary depth that the farm boy did.</v>

905
00:44:11.772 --> 00:44:12.222
Yeah,

906
00:44:12.272 --> 00:44:12.772
<v Jeff>I agree.</v>

907
00:44:14.580 --> 00:44:16.280
<v Greg>I don't think it's going for that anyway.</v>

908
00:44:16.380 --> 00:44:16.980
No.

909
00:44:17.780 --> 00:44:22.430
<v Greg>I think that it's so much, to me it's a lot more,</v>

910
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.433
<v Greg>this is much more delicious than the Farmboy was.</v>

911
00:44:25.433 --> 00:44:27.730
<v Greg>Whereas the Farmboy was considerably more expressive</v>

912
00:44:27.730 --> 00:44:28.530
Tarts.

913
00:44:28.530 --> 00:44:32.930
<v Greg>and complex, complex yeah and yeah.</v>

914
00:44:34.130 --> 00:44:35.780
<v Shannon>This one's easier.</v>

915
00:44:35.980 --> 00:44:41.080
<v Jeff>if you much that okay for now let's imagine this one versus</v>

916
00:44:42.292 --> 00:44:47.923
<v Jeff>the highly fruited belgian lambics like lindemann's or leaf men's or something</v>

917
00:44:47.923 --> 00:44:48.642
<v Jeff>like well that</v>

918
00:44:48.642 --> 00:44:52.752
<v Greg>those are like the lindemans is special because it's sweet like most</v>

919
00:44:52.752 --> 00:44:56.862
<v Greg>of the the highly fruity ones are pretty sour even lindemans like</v>

920
00:44:56.862 --> 00:45:00.972
<v Greg>their passion other stuff are sour it's only really the their framboes</v>

921
00:45:00.972 --> 00:45:02.342
<v Greg>that is particularly sweet</v>

922
00:45:02.342 --> 00:45:06.842
<v Jeff>good point but this one is has big fruit right with with</v>

923
00:45:06.842 --> 00:45:11.737
<v Jeff>the present sour so i think this is A good one to</v>

924
00:45:11.737 --> 00:45:15.423
<v Jeff>kind of think in that family of beers, and I think if</v>

925
00:45:15.423 --> 00:45:20.431
<v Jeff>you use that perspective on it, we're going to start talking about</v>

926
00:45:20.431 --> 00:45:24.604
<v Jeff>how this is more expressive than that family of beers.</v>

927
00:45:25.804 --> 00:45:34.077
<v Greg>Yeah, the only issue with that is like a lambic, this doesn't</v>

928
00:45:34.077 --> 00:45:37.404
<v Greg>taste to me like a lambic.</v>

929
00:45:39.124 --> 00:45:43.493
<v Greg>this is more a different kind of souring to me i mean</v>

930
00:45:43.493 --> 00:45:47.862
<v Greg>it it feels like a more uh you know like like a</v>

931
00:45:47.862 --> 00:45:52.231
<v Greg>standard thing that a good souring beer would have in in their</v>

932
00:45:52.231 --> 00:45:56.600
<v Greg>production but it doesn't it i i'm trying to pin down exactly</v>

933
00:45:56.600 --> 00:46:00.969
<v Greg>what it is that that's that's off that that makes it feel</v>

934
00:46:00.969 --> 00:46:06.143
<v Greg>off lambic to me i'm not quite sure what it is But</v>

935
00:46:06.143 --> 00:46:10.505
<v Greg>there's something about this that it feels a little bit, I just</v>

936
00:46:10.505 --> 00:46:14.867
<v Greg>feel like it's a little less, it's got a little less going</v>

937
00:46:14.867 --> 00:46:15.230
<v Greg>on.</v>

938
00:46:16.340 --> 00:46:16.668
<v Greg>Maybe.</v>

939
00:46:16.668 --> 00:46:19.290
<v Greg>Maybe that's all I'm getting out of it.</v>

940
00:46:19.540 --> 00:46:24.295
<v Greg>It's just, and maybe tasting it right after the farm boy makes</v>

941
00:46:24.295 --> 00:46:28.740
<v Greg>you think, well, I mean, it's much more delicious, but it loses,</v>

942
00:46:28.890 --> 00:46:30.240
<v Greg>as you said, a lot of the complexity.</v>

943
00:46:30.240 --> 00:46:31.140
<v Greg>Sure, sure.</v>

944
00:46:31.640 --> 00:46:32.790
<v Greg>I mean, I don't disagree.</v>

945
00:46:32.790 --> 00:46:35.065
<v Greg>It still got complexities to it.</v>

946
00:46:35.065 --> 00:46:37.340
<v Greg>It's still more than one dimensional.</v>

947
00:46:39.340 --> 00:46:41.090
<v Shannon>Do you think it's the lactose that?</v>

948
00:46:42.080 --> 00:46:42.630
Okay.

949
00:46:43.230 --> 00:46:45.280
<v Greg>I do think that there's a fair amount of lactose in that,</v>

950
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.916
<v Greg>I and I do think that their primary So real thing is</v>

951
00:46:47.916 --> 00:46:48.209
<v Greg>lactose.</v>

952
00:46:48.209 --> 00:46:49.380
<v Greg>That's a good call.</v>

953
00:46:49.430 --> 00:46:50.180
<v Greg>It might be rose.</v>

954
00:46:50.180 --> 00:46:54.880
<v Jeff>quick, lactose, lactic acid from lactobacillus.</v>

955
00:46:55.476 --> 00:46:56.676
<v Jeff>it's different than lactose Right.</v>

956
00:46:56.676 --> 00:46:57.576
right Yes, this is this true.

957
00:46:57.576 --> 00:47:00.776
<v Jeff>has the lactic kind of sour like But you're right about,</v>

958
00:47:00.776 --> 00:47:01.676
mangoes I think you're right about sour the lactic.

959
00:47:01.676 --> 00:47:06.110
<v Jeff>is something like a like a lot of the quick sours that</v>

960
00:47:06.110 --> 00:47:10.544
<v Jeff>breweries around here have so they're two different things lactose gives you</v>

961
00:47:10.544 --> 00:47:14.978
<v Jeff>body and kind of subtle sweetness in like milkshake smoothies stouts or</v>

962
00:47:14.978 --> 00:47:19.412
<v Jeff>smoothie ipas and stuff like that and then things that are like</v>

963
00:47:19.412 --> 00:47:25.295
<v Jeff>press project the sours from hitchhiker they do a lactic fermentation in</v>

964
00:47:25.295 --> 00:47:30.606
<v Jeff>the kettle where on on the barley is a fair amount of</v>

965
00:47:30.606 --> 00:47:35.918
<v Jeff>lactose so they instead of killing it they allow it to stew</v>

966
00:47:35.918 --> 00:47:41.229
<v Jeff>for a while and do some metabolization of stuff on the barley</v>

967
00:47:41.229 --> 00:47:46.541
<v Jeff>and it puts out that tangy note right so just just letting</v>

968
00:47:46.541 --> 00:47:51.852
<v Jeff>you know there's they're two similar words but really two different things</v>

969
00:47:52.852 --> 00:47:54.652
But the general idea,

970
00:47:54.852 --> 00:47:58.836
<v Greg>which is it's the lactic acid that's maybe putting it, I think</v>

971
00:47:58.836 --> 00:48:02.820
<v Greg>that's a really good call in your part because I think that's</v>

972
00:48:02.820 --> 00:48:03.152
<v Greg>true.</v>

973
00:48:03.452 --> 00:48:09.052
<v Greg>I think that it's the more lactic sour here that is pulling</v>

974
00:48:09.052 --> 00:48:13.252
<v Greg>me from thinking of it like a true Lambic.</v>

975
00:48:14.324 --> 00:48:14.824
<v Jeff>Could be.</v>

976
00:48:14.824 --> 00:48:16.774
<v Jeff>Yeah, I think that's fair.</v>

977
00:48:16.974 --> 00:48:21.096
<v Jeff>I think it does have a bigger, it is more reminiscent of</v>

978
00:48:21.096 --> 00:48:22.474
<v Jeff>a lot of quicksours.</v>

979
00:48:23.174 --> 00:48:26.355
<v Jeff>It's so much more than mm a lot of quicksours, but it</v>

980
00:48:26.355 --> 00:48:28.824
<v Jeff>does have a reminiscence because of the lacking that upfront.</v>

981
00:48:30.724 --> 00:48:34.101
<v Greg>so yeah not a bad beer by any means and in fact</v>

982
00:48:34.101 --> 00:48:37.477
<v Greg>like i said a delicious beer i'd recommend it but i just</v>

983
00:48:37.477 --> 00:48:40.854
<v Greg>don't want to get people off in the right if people are</v>

984
00:48:40.854 --> 00:48:45.272
<v Greg>really like do using a microscope like like we are these Mm-hmm.</v>

985
00:48:45.272 --> 00:48:47.922
<v Greg>things these are at least what what</v>

986
00:48:47.922 --> 00:48:48.907
<v Jeff>And victim to flight, too.</v>

987
00:48:48.907 --> 00:48:51.272
<v Jeff>That used to be something we had happen to us a lot,</v>

988
00:48:51.372 --> 00:48:51.472
<v Jeff>right?</v>

989
00:48:51.522 --> 00:48:53.372
<v Jeff>When you're following on the heels.</v>

990
00:48:53.372 --> 00:48:55.824
<v Greg>it's hard to say it's a victim this thing's gonna be ranked</v>

991
00:48:55.824 --> 00:48:58.172
<v Greg>pretty high and probably above the farm boy for me in Oh.</v>

992
00:48:58.172 --> 00:48:58.572
terms Oh, of yeah.

993
00:48:58.572 --> 00:49:05.522
<v Greg>so like i'm but i'm just saying curb your expectations a bit</v>

994
00:49:08.672 --> 00:49:09.522
For the record.

995
00:49:10.324 --> 00:49:13.724
<v Shannon>If any listeners have a chance to go to burial,</v>

996
00:49:13.874 --> 00:49:16.874
if you're in Asheville,

997
00:49:16.874 --> 00:49:17.374
<v Shannon>They you,</v>

998
00:49:17.374 --> 00:49:18.074
have several locations.

999
00:49:18.074 --> 00:49:18.174
oh,

1000
00:49:18.174 --> 00:49:19.224
<v Jeff>They have a place in Charlotte.</v>

1001
00:49:19.424 --> 00:49:22.424
<v Jeff>They have, okay, they're in a couple of, they're in North Carolina.</v>

1002
00:49:22.474 --> 00:49:24.724
<v Jeff>So you'll be able to find their tap rooms around.</v>

1003
00:49:24.724 --> 00:49:26.624
<v Shannon>you should definitely go.</v>

1004
00:49:26.924 --> 00:49:29.884
<v Jeff>So I did want to talk a little bit about Vermy and</v>

1005
00:49:29.884 --> 00:49:30.624
<v Jeff>how he's doing.</v>

1006
00:49:31.674 --> 00:49:33.374
<v Jeff>And Vermy is...</v>

1007
00:49:33.374 --> 00:49:34.974
<v Jeff>Vermy used to be known as Quasi.</v>

1008
00:49:35.924 --> 00:49:43.936
<v Jeff>He is my, now my, he's a spotted</v>

1009
00:49:43.936 --> 00:49:45.174
<v Jeff>python.</v>

1010
00:49:48.374 --> 00:49:53.660
<v Greg>He was very, like, probably one of the most chill snakes I've</v>

1011
00:49:53.660 --> 00:49:57.510
<v Greg>ever encountered, and I haven't encountered many snakes, but he was a</v>

1012
00:49:57.510 --> 00:49:58.588
<v Greg>very chill snake.</v>

1013
00:49:58.588 --> 00:50:00.024
<v Greg>And then when I...</v>

1014
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.632
<v Greg>shot him got a little bitey a little bit getting bit by</v>

1015
00:50:03.632 --> 00:50:07.264
<v Greg>a snake is not a big deal in in fact one of</v>

1016
00:50:07.264 --> 00:50:10.896
<v Greg>the things that kind of shocked me like first of all his</v>

1017
00:50:10.896 --> 00:50:14.529
<v Greg>his head is smaller than my thumb he's not going to be</v>

1018
00:50:14.529 --> 00:50:19.983
<v Greg>able to do any damage to me it barely hurts i would</v>

1019
00:50:19.983 --> 00:50:23.550
<v Greg>say i've had cat bites considerably worse well</v>

1020
00:50:23.550 --> 00:50:25.917
<v Jeff>until he figures out how to make venom, then you're going to</v>

1021
00:50:25.917 --> 00:50:26.250
<v Jeff>be fucked.</v>

1022
00:50:26.750 --> 00:50:32.302
<v Greg>he's got he's got a long way to go on that because</v>

1023
00:50:32.302 --> 00:50:35.750
<v Greg>pythons generally don't have venom as bad they do i mean all</v>

1024
00:50:35.750 --> 00:50:39.198
<v Greg>snakes have a little bit in their saliva that is slightly anticoagulant</v>

1025
00:50:39.198 --> 00:50:42.647
<v Greg>so even when so he bites his you can get a little</v>

1026
00:50:42.647 --> 00:50:46.095
<v Greg>tiny little drops of blood occasionally but it's nothing to worry about</v>

1027
00:50:46.095 --> 00:50:49.543
<v Greg>um it feels like a minor pinch if he's if he's on</v>

1028
00:50:49.543 --> 00:50:52.992
<v Greg>you and the other thing about it is as soon as he</v>

1029
00:50:52.992 --> 00:50:57.268
<v Greg>lets go in two seconds you don't feel anymore which is really</v>

1030
00:50:57.268 --> 00:51:01.234
<v Greg>nice because it's not like a paper cut where you feel it</v>

1031
00:51:01.234 --> 00:51:05.200
<v Greg>all day so but it's still not great when a when your</v>

1032
00:51:05.200 --> 00:51:09.166
<v Greg>pet bites you it's not something that you want it's stressing out</v>

1033
00:51:09.166 --> 00:51:13.132
<v Greg>your pet it's stressing you out it's not a good thing it's</v>

1034
00:51:13.132 --> 00:51:17.099
<v Greg>always food related he's never it's not because he's afraid of me</v>

1035
00:51:17.099 --> 00:51:21.065
<v Greg>it's just that he always these things get me fed so i'm</v>

1036
00:51:21.065 --> 00:51:25.567
<v Greg>working on training him out of that uh and of course he</v>

1037
00:51:25.567 --> 00:51:28.654
<v Greg>was different when he was here with tori who Mm-hmm.</v>

1038
00:51:28.654 --> 00:51:34.381
<v Greg>we should say is shanna's uh daughter uh and she then and</v>

1039
00:51:34.381 --> 00:51:41.182
<v Greg>he's on a different diet he's in a different location he had</v>

1040
00:51:41.182 --> 00:51:45.248
<v Greg>to adapt to a bunch of different smells and you know different</v>

1041
00:51:45.248 --> 00:51:50.024
<v Greg>completely different stuff so he's gonna be a little different but</v>

1042
00:51:50.024 --> 00:51:50.624
Yep.

1043
00:51:50.624 --> 00:51:57.384
<v Greg>he's i'm he's down to the point where he's very handleable again</v>

1044
00:51:57.384 --> 00:52:01.024
<v Greg>uh and well I wasn't sure which way that story was going.</v>

1045
00:52:01.024 --> 00:52:01.474
<v Greg>was a good idea.</v>

1046
00:52:02.724 --> 00:52:07.874
<v Greg>i did want to talk about How cool a name Fermi is.</v>

1047
00:52:07.874 --> 00:52:08.974
Mm-hmm.

1048
00:52:08.974 --> 00:52:12.974
<v Greg>Because I think that you probably, rightfully so, are looking skeptically about</v>

1049
00:52:12.974 --> 00:52:14.974
<v Greg>why did you change the name of Quasi-Quasi.</v>

1050
00:52:14.974 --> 00:52:16.724
<v Greg>You know this new snake is quasi.</v>

1051
00:52:17.024 --> 00:52:19.324
<v Greg>So quasi is named after a roller coaster in Florida.</v>

1052
00:52:19.924 --> 00:52:20.674
<v Shannon>Bush Gardens.</v>

1053
00:52:20.674 --> 00:52:21.124
<v Shannon>Yeah.</v>

1054
00:52:22.024 --> 00:52:25.724
<v Greg>And that Tori said almost killed her.</v>

1055
00:52:26.424 --> 00:52:26.774
Yeah.

1056
00:52:26.774 --> 00:52:27.974
That doesn't claim.

1057
00:52:29.174 --> 00:52:34.624
<v Greg>So Fermi, one of the most brilliant scientists of the 20th century.</v>

1058
00:52:35.700 --> 00:52:43.062
<v Greg>A guy who is Nobel Prize winning, his contribution to quantum mechanics</v>

1059
00:52:43.062 --> 00:52:48.602
<v Greg>and understanding fusion and fission is pretty unprecedented.</v>

1060
00:52:48.602 --> 00:52:56.911
<v Greg>The first man-made self-standing nuclear reaction was made by Fermi in the</v>

1061
00:52:56.911 --> 00:53:02.450
<v Greg>Chicago Pile as part of the Manhattan Project.</v>

1062
00:53:03.636 --> 00:53:08.104
<v Greg>um the how let me put this let me let me expose</v>

1063
00:53:08.104 --> 00:53:12.573
<v Greg>you how fundamental for me is to to science there are two</v>

1064
00:53:12.573 --> 00:53:17.041
<v Greg>types of particles in the standard model of particle physics one is</v>

1065
00:53:17.041 --> 00:53:23.079
<v Greg>things like photons those are light those are things called bosons they</v>

1066
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:28.981
<v Greg>follow a statistics called Bose-Einstein statistics, because Einstein and this guy, Sentry</v>

1067
00:53:28.981 --> 00:53:32.856
<v Greg>of Hair Bones, Bose, did the stuff.</v>

1068
00:53:33.106 --> 00:53:35.106
<v Greg>And then there's another type of particles, electrons,</v>

1069
00:53:35.456 --> 00:53:36.556
protons,

1070
00:53:36.706 --> 00:53:37.906
<v Greg>neutrons, stuff that we're made of.</v>

1071
00:53:37.956 --> 00:53:39.356
<v Greg>Those are called fermions,</v>

1072
00:53:39.506 --> 00:53:42.256
Fermi-Dirac statistics,

1073
00:53:42.656 --> 00:53:45.206
<v Greg>named, yeah, Fermi, named after Fermi.</v>

1074
00:53:47.056 --> 00:53:48.456
<v Greg>The 100th element,</v>

1075
00:53:48.656 --> 00:53:50.906
fermium.

1076
00:53:51.604 --> 00:53:54.204
<v Jeff>You got elementary particles and an element.</v>

1077
00:53:54.204 --> 00:54:00.722
<v Greg>and an element like him and einstein right like not many people</v>

1078
00:54:00.722 --> 00:54:07.240
<v Greg>get that that big uh fermilab in chicago named after him uh</v>

1079
00:54:07.240 --> 00:54:13.759
<v Greg>there's a whole class of problems that are considered fermic problems so</v>

1080
00:54:13.759 --> 00:54:20.910
<v Greg>fermic was amazing at doing things like estimation At the first nuclear</v>

1081
00:54:20.910 --> 00:54:26.310
<v Greg>explosion, the Trinity test, he knew how far away the bomb was,</v>

1082
00:54:26.410 --> 00:54:29.410
<v Greg>and he knew when the shockwave was going to hit.</v>

1083
00:54:29.510 --> 00:54:33.983
<v Greg>He dropped some pieces of paper and looked at how they moved</v>

1084
00:54:33.983 --> 00:54:37.710
<v Greg>and estimated based on that the strength of the bomb.</v>

1085
00:54:39.604 --> 00:54:43.880
<v Greg>out of order of magnitude like it was he was something like</v>

1086
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:48.157
<v Greg>it was 15 uh kilotons and he he estimated 12 from just</v>

1087
00:54:48.157 --> 00:54:52.433
<v Greg>pieces of paper that he dropped like that and he also like</v>

1088
00:54:52.433 --> 00:54:56.709
<v Greg>a great example of the hurry problem is how many blades of</v>

1089
00:54:56.709 --> 00:55:02.265
<v Greg>grass are there on a football field And that's a ridiculous, how</v>

1090
00:55:02.265 --> 00:55:03.348
<v Greg>do you get that answer?</v>

1091
00:55:03.448 --> 00:55:06.398
<v Greg>But what he did is he said, okay, well, if I imagine,</v>

1092
00:55:06.448 --> 00:55:09.033
<v Greg>okay, a football field is, let's use an American football field, it's</v>

1093
00:55:09.033 --> 00:55:09.448
<v Greg>100 yards.</v>

1094
00:55:09.798 --> 00:55:11.998
<v Greg>And I can take a small percentage of that.</v>

1095
00:55:12.298 --> 00:55:14.665
<v Greg>I can look at a centimeter by centimeter space and count how</v>

1096
00:55:14.665 --> 00:55:17.031
<v Greg>many blades of grass are in there and use that as a</v>

1097
00:55:17.031 --> 00:55:19.398
<v Greg>base idea for how many blades of grass are going to be.</v>

1098
00:55:19.448 --> 00:55:21.448
<v Greg>And I'll probably get it within an order of magnitude.</v>

1099
00:55:22.848 --> 00:55:23.498
<v Greg>So that's...</v>

1100
00:55:23.988 --> 00:55:24.488
<v Greg>Fermi I problems</v>

1101
00:55:24.488 --> 00:55:27.098
<v Jeff>think if you sample three or four centimeters, you do a lot</v>

1102
00:55:27.098 --> 00:55:27.238
<v Jeff>better.</v>

1103
00:55:27.238 --> 00:55:28.138
<v Greg>you do a lot better.</v>

1104
00:55:28.938 --> 00:55:34.015
<v Greg>The best thing that Fermi, the most thing, the thing he's known</v>

1105
00:55:34.015 --> 00:55:39.092
<v Greg>for the most in public consciousness is the Fermi paradox, which is</v>

1106
00:55:39.092 --> 00:55:43.996
<v Greg>famous because he had a way of cutting down to brass tacks</v>

1107
00:55:43.996 --> 00:55:47.846
<v Greg>and he apparently, when he was conversing with some of his scientists</v>

1108
00:55:47.846 --> 00:55:53.453
<v Greg>and friends, they were talking about aliens because why not we we</v>

1109
00:55:53.453 --> 00:55:57.464
<v Greg>all do he asked a kind of profound but a simple profound</v>

1110
00:55:57.464 --> 00:56:01.475
<v Greg>question where are they because the idea is we should based on</v>

1111
00:56:01.475 --> 00:56:05.486
<v Greg>the numbers based on what we think those numbers are we should</v>

1112
00:56:05.486 --> 00:56:09.497
<v Greg>be seeing them everywhere why don't we see them anywhere that's the</v>

1113
00:56:09.497 --> 00:56:13.508
<v Greg>hurry paradox where are they and it's like what setty and all</v>

1114
00:56:13.508 --> 00:56:18.048
<v Greg>this stuff are based on trying to find them I just want</v>

1115
00:56:18.048 --> 00:56:22.123
<v Greg>to point out how cool a name Fermi is, because I think</v>

1116
00:56:22.123 --> 00:56:26.985
<v Greg>that he is, there's few cooler things for people to be named</v>

1117
00:56:26.985 --> 00:56:28.348
<v Greg>after than Fermi.</v>

1118
00:56:28.348 --> 00:56:32.272
<v Jeff>I just watched, I want to talk about this later, maybe post-show,</v>

1119
00:56:32.272 --> 00:56:36.314
<v Jeff>but I just watched a video on heavy element hunting and there's</v>

1120
00:56:36.314 --> 00:56:40.356
<v Jeff>a guy who faked data so he could get the claims in</v>

1121
00:56:40.356 --> 00:56:44.398
<v Jeff>early and then, you know, the island of stability that might be.</v>

1122
00:56:44.180 --> 00:56:47.469
<v Jeff>might be up there and then i was looking at a whole</v>

1123
00:56:47.469 --> 00:56:50.758
<v Jeff>bunch of stuff i want to talk about super heavies which is</v>

1124
00:56:50.758 --> 00:56:51.830
<v Jeff>academic only right Right.</v>

1125
00:56:51.830 --> 00:56:52.180
<v Jeff>but</v>

1126
00:56:52.180 --> 00:56:52.380
Yeah.

1127
00:56:52.380 --> 00:56:53.480
<v Jeff>still interesting</v>

1128
00:56:53.680 --> 00:56:57.538
<v Greg>I didn't even mention Fermat's golden rule, which when you're doing calculations</v>

1129
00:56:57.538 --> 00:57:01.638
<v Greg>of quantum field theory, Fermat's golden rule is a part of your</v>

1130
00:57:01.638 --> 00:57:01.980
<v Greg>process.</v>

1131
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:07.413
<v Greg>Like, Fermat is just, there's so much that he's done.</v>

1132
00:57:07.413 --> 00:57:09.980
<v Greg>So much that is like.</v>

1133
00:57:10.772 --> 00:57:11.572
<v Greg>He's revered.</v>

1134
00:57:11.572 --> 00:57:12.072
Mm-hmm.

1135
00:57:12.372 --> 00:57:13.322
<v Greg>Rightfully so.</v>

1136
00:57:13.672 --> 00:57:14.172
Absolutely.

1137
00:57:15.022 --> 00:57:20.738
<v Greg>So I just want that as to be on the record for</v>

1138
00:57:20.738 --> 00:57:24.072
<v Greg>saying Ferbie is a damn cool name.</v>

1139
00:57:25.072 --> 00:57:27.072
<v Greg>Better than some dumb roller coaster.</v>

1140
00:57:27.072 --> 00:57:28.522
<v Greg>I'm not saying it's better.</v>

1141
00:57:28.722 --> 00:57:31.072
<v Greg>I'm not trying to say it's better.</v>

1142
00:57:31.122 --> 00:57:34.822
<v Greg>I'm just trying to say if anything, it's equally as cool.</v>

1143
00:57:34.972 --> 00:57:36.122
<v Greg>Greg, look at this.</v>

1144
00:57:37.364 --> 00:57:44.195
<v Greg>okay so we have a a floppy beer a very uh a</v>

1145
00:57:44.195 --> 00:57:44.764
<v Greg>chunky</v>

1146
00:57:46.164 --> 00:57:46.814
No.

1147
00:57:47.514 --> 00:57:50.464
<v Jeff>This is from Oven Water, and this is Killing Time.</v>

1148
00:57:50.564 --> 00:57:55.164
<v Jeff>And this is a key lime coconut cream sour.</v>

1149
00:57:55.714 --> 00:58:00.514
<v Jeff>And the coconut cream has kind of clumped up and solidified.</v>

1150
00:58:03.508 --> 00:58:03.508
<v Shannon>I</v>

1151
00:58:03.508 --> 00:58:03.858
so told

1152
00:58:03.858 --> 00:58:07.058
<v Shannon>i you last week and I didn't think I could do this.</v>

1153
00:58:07.058 --> 00:58:10.322
<v Jeff>had to but look at the foam the foam is like a</v>

1154
00:58:10.322 --> 00:58:13.586
<v Jeff>float like an ice cream float where the bubbles get all big</v>

1155
00:58:13.586 --> 00:58:13.858
<v Jeff>and</v>

1156
00:58:17.308 --> 00:58:20.462
<v Greg>wow uh i just i took a smell then i was like</v>

1157
00:58:20.462 --> 00:58:23.616
<v Greg>okay um this is a fruit and salt sour condition on key</v>

1158
00:58:23.616 --> 00:58:26.770
<v Greg>lime cream of coconut and almond there's a lot of coconut a</v>

1159
00:58:26.770 --> 00:58:29.516
<v Greg>lot of like i don't know</v>

1160
00:58:29.516 --> 00:58:29.716
what's Oh,

1161
00:58:29.716 --> 00:58:31.859
<v Greg>what's what's what's a drink with with a lot of coconut like</v>

1162
00:58:31.859 --> 00:58:33.466
<v Greg>sex on the beach is that um what is</v>

1163
00:58:33.466 --> 00:58:35.966
<v Jeff>a pina colada or a pina</v>

1164
00:58:35.966 --> 00:58:39.116
oh, killer it's those smell so much better.

1165
00:58:41.366 --> 00:58:45.309
<v Greg>that it doesn't smell that bad for me it smells like toasted</v>

1166
00:58:45.309 --> 00:58:45.966
<v Greg>coconut yeah</v>

1167
00:58:47.816 --> 00:58:49.566
<v Jeff>the ploppy plops that are getting to</v>

1168
00:58:49.566 --> 00:58:49.766
it's you

1169
00:58:49.766 --> 00:58:53.816
<v Greg>a it's is it the consistency that the beer poured with it</v>

1170
00:58:54.388 --> 00:58:55.334
<v Jeff>I was hoping.</v>

1171
00:58:55.334 --> 00:58:58.763
<v Jeff>So I had one of these last week and I It's was</v>

1172
00:58:58.763 --> 00:58:58.938
<v Jeff>hoping</v>

1173
00:58:58.938 --> 00:58:59.888
floating, that there's every like can.

1174
00:58:59.888 --> 00:59:01.138
<v Greg>tofu in there.</v>

1175
00:59:01.538 --> 00:59:02.038
<v Greg>Yeah.</v>

1176
00:59:02.038 --> 00:59:04.538
<v Jeff>I've eaten them, the coconut cream, I promise.</v>

1177
00:59:04.538 --> 00:59:05.288
<v Jeff>Oh sure.</v>

1178
00:59:05.688 --> 00:59:06.988
I really think.

1179
00:59:10.538 --> 00:59:13.988
<v Greg>I actually like the toasted coconut, I do.</v>

1180
00:59:15.028 --> 00:59:16.854
<v Greg>I don't even I was just surprised.</v>

1181
00:59:16.854 --> 00:59:18.200
<v Greg>I haven't tasted it yet.</v>

1182
00:59:18.200 --> 00:59:20.084
<v Greg>No, I was just surprised by it.</v>

1183
00:59:20.084 --> 00:59:23.313
<v Greg>That's why it's sort of, and it was very funny to me.</v>

1184
00:59:23.313 --> 00:59:24.928
<v Greg>The head is also really weird.</v>

1185
00:59:24.928 --> 00:59:27.628
<v Jeff>it looked they ever have an ice ice cream float where you</v>

1186
00:59:27.628 --> 00:59:28.978
<v Jeff>put ice cream and soda this</v>

1187
00:59:28.978 --> 00:59:29.428
Yeah, it's

1188
00:59:29.428 --> 00:59:31.728
<v Jeff>is how the head gets on it it's super weird I frothy.</v>

1189
00:59:31.728 --> 00:59:33.328
<v Shannon>just want to vomit in my class.</v>

1190
00:59:37.332 --> 00:59:38.332
<v Shannon>This is trucks.</v>

1191
00:59:38.982 --> 00:59:42.627
<v Jeff>if you go on our discord you can see a video of</v>

1192
00:59:42.627 --> 00:59:46.272
<v Jeff>me pouring this beer and it goes blip blop blop blop blop</v>

1193
00:59:46.272 --> 00:59:49.917
<v Jeff>so if you want to see the ploppy beer get poured go</v>

1194
00:59:49.917 --> 00:59:52.282
<v Jeff>on our discord and that scroll back to last weekend</v>

1195
00:59:53.532 --> 00:59:58.332
<v Greg>that's funny because that's not untrue the vomit thing and that'd be</v>

1196
00:59:58.332 --> 01:00:02.300
<v Greg>a great poll quote For this beer, even if you like it.</v>

1197
01:00:04.700 --> 01:00:08.517
<v Jeff>beyond the flavor it has compared to these last couple beers has</v>

1198
01:00:08.517 --> 01:00:12.334
<v Jeff>a nice light tanginess to it the the key lime in the</v>

1199
01:00:12.334 --> 01:00:16.151
<v Jeff>lactic go together really well so it doesn't taste like a quick</v>

1200
01:00:16.151 --> 01:00:19.650
<v Jeff>sour so much it tastes more just like a tangy cocktail</v>

1201
01:00:19.650 --> 01:00:20.900
<v Greg>almost This is a cocktail beer.</v>

1202
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:23.800
<v Greg>This is clearly cocktail beer here.</v>

1203
01:00:24.468 --> 01:00:26.381
<v Greg>I didn't want to talk for a second because I got it</v>

1204
01:00:26.381 --> 01:00:27.368
<v Greg>a little bit down You the wrong</v>

1205
01:00:27.368 --> 01:00:28.418
got pipe a chunk and caught?

1206
01:00:28.418 --> 01:00:31.504
<v Greg>I didn't want to cough because that would have made it look</v>

1207
01:00:31.504 --> 01:00:33.047
<v Greg>like I was disgusted by it.</v>

1208
01:00:33.047 --> 01:00:33.818
<v Greg>But it's not.</v>

1209
01:00:33.918 --> 01:00:35.368
<v Greg>I actually really enjoyed it.</v>

1210
01:00:35.618 --> 01:00:37.918
<v Greg>But it went right down the wrong pipe.</v>

1211
01:00:38.568 --> 01:00:40.568
Oh, I'm still scared.

1212
01:00:41.118 --> 01:00:42.018
Take a sip.

1213
01:00:42.218 --> 01:00:43.268
<v Greg>You can do it.</v>

1214
01:00:43.768 --> 01:00:45.568
<v Greg>It tastes like a coconut lime cocktail.</v>

1215
01:00:45.668 --> 01:00:46.268
<v Greg>Like it really does.</v>

1216
01:00:49.716 --> 01:00:52.616
<v Greg>it's actually pretty good I got a chunk.</v>

1217
01:00:52.816 --> 01:00:53.416
<v Greg>It's fine.</v>

1218
01:00:53.416 --> 01:00:53.616
<v Greg>Ha!</v>

1219
01:00:53.616 --> 01:00:53.916
<v Greg>It's fine.</v>

1220
01:00:54.016 --> 01:00:56.066
<v Greg>It's just coconut.</v>

1221
01:00:56.366 --> 01:00:57.366
<v Greg>It's just coconut.</v>

1222
01:00:57.366 --> 01:00:59.966
<v Shannon>I'm not supposed to get chunks in my beer.</v>

1223
01:01:00.166 --> 01:01:01.666
<v Shannon>Well, now you are.</v>

1224
01:01:02.466 --> 01:01:04.016
<v Greg>now you're a chunky beer girl</v>

1225
01:01:04.016 --> 01:01:06.616
No, I am, but.

1226
01:01:06.666 --> 01:01:07.466
Oh, yeah.

1227
01:01:07.916 --> 01:01:09.316
<v Greg>Yeah, there's a chunk here.</v>

1228
01:01:13.108 --> 01:01:13.108
<v Greg>I</v>

1229
01:01:13.108 --> 01:01:13.408
Oh,

1230
01:01:13.408 --> 01:01:14.358
<v Shannon>wonder they're</v>

1231
01:01:14.358 --> 01:01:15.158
if they turning knew again.

1232
01:01:15.158 --> 01:01:16.308
<v Jeff>it was going to be chunky.</v>

1233
01:01:16.458 --> 01:01:17.408
<v Jeff>I don't think they did.</v>

1234
01:01:17.408 --> 01:01:17.508
<v Jeff>no</v>

1235
01:01:17.508 --> 01:01:18.908
I think it was just I an accident suspect of packaging.

1236
01:01:18.908 --> 01:01:24.022
<v Greg>not because I mean looking at the pictures that are clearly um</v>

1237
01:01:24.022 --> 01:01:27.858
<v Greg>in in the in situ at the bar it</v>

1238
01:01:28.308 --> 01:01:28.758
Okay.

1239
01:01:28.758 --> 01:01:31.308
<v Greg>does not look like that but it tastes good</v>

1240
01:01:31.458 --> 01:01:32.258
It does.

1241
01:01:32.258 --> 01:01:35.396
Yeah, you should like it with how much you like painkillers and

1242
01:01:35.396 --> 01:01:35.658
things.

1243
01:01:38.068 --> 01:01:41.868
<v Shannon>As long as the chalks Do you have a, like fanless, right?</v>

1244
01:01:41.868 --> 01:01:42.018
a, A

1245
01:01:42.018 --> 01:01:42.568
<v Jeff>because stirrer.</v>

1246
01:01:42.568 --> 01:01:44.828
I think this could Can you grab it?

1247
01:01:44.828 --> 01:01:46.118
I'm kind of trapped in here.

1248
01:01:46.168 --> 01:01:47.518
<v Greg>This could use a stirrer.</v>

1249
01:01:48.020 --> 01:01:50.945
<v Greg>I don't think it would, like, I think getting this a little</v>

1250
01:01:50.945 --> 01:01:52.320
<v Greg>bit homogenous would help it.</v>

1251
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:52.720
<v Jeff>Yeah.</v>

1252
01:01:53.120 --> 01:01:57.208
<v Jeff>I just noticed this, kind of the sour from the souring of</v>

1253
01:01:57.208 --> 01:02:01.728
<v Jeff>the beer and the lime, drinking this as a cocktail, it replaces</v>

1254
01:02:01.728 --> 01:02:04.520
<v Jeff>pineapple juice in a coconut cocktail.</v>

1255
01:02:04.620 --> 01:02:08.266
<v Jeff>So it's even closer to like what I think of as a</v>

1256
01:02:08.266 --> 01:02:10.170
<v Jeff>painkiller, you know, kind of thing.</v>

1257
01:02:12.670 --> 01:02:13.170
Great.

1258
01:02:13.420 --> 01:02:14.120
Bar suit.

1259
01:02:14.370 --> 01:02:15.082
<v Greg>A bar spoon.</v>

1260
01:02:15.082 --> 01:02:15.320
<v Greg>Perfect.</v>

1261
01:02:17.716 --> 01:02:18.466
<v Greg>Want some more chunks?</v>

1262
01:02:18.816 --> 01:02:20.516
Give me some more chunks.

1263
01:02:20.516 --> 01:02:21.216
<v Greg>More chunkage.</v>

1264
01:02:21.216 --> 01:02:22.616
<v Greg>Give me more of them chunks.</v>

1265
01:02:23.266 --> 01:02:23.866
Yeah.

1266
01:02:27.216 --> 01:02:27.916
<v Greg>Thank you.</v>

1267
01:02:27.916 --> 01:02:28.666
You're welcome.

1268
01:02:29.466 --> 01:02:30.016
Yeah.

1269
01:02:30.016 --> 01:02:31.016
<v Shannon>Sir, sir?</v>

1270
01:02:31.916 --> 01:02:32.816
<v Jeff>Thank you, ma'am.</v>

1271
01:02:32.816 --> 01:02:33.066
<v Shannon>Notice?</v>

1272
01:02:34.766 --> 01:02:35.716
Even better.

1273
01:02:35.766 --> 01:02:42.016
<v Greg>Is it, it distributes the coconut even more, gives it a viscosity.</v>

1274
01:02:44.436 --> 01:02:48.772
<v Greg>You have them so you're losing a bit of carbonation by stirring</v>

1275
01:02:48.772 --> 01:02:52.386
<v Greg>it, but you're gaining, I think, a more complete experience.</v>

1276
01:02:52.686 --> 01:02:53.136
Yeah.

1277
01:02:53.236 --> 01:02:53.886
<v Jeff>For sure.</v>

1278
01:02:54.486 --> 01:02:57.113
<v Jeff>I was debating whether to kind of like gently agitate this beer</v>

1279
01:02:57.113 --> 01:02:59.740
<v Jeff>for the last hour while we were doing this show or to</v>

1280
01:02:59.740 --> 01:03:00.616
<v Jeff>surprise you with chunks.</v>

1281
01:03:00.616 --> 01:03:02.586
<v Jeff>And I'm glad I surprised you with the chunks.</v>

1282
01:03:04.036 --> 01:03:05.536
<v Greg>Yeah, so if you get this beer, stir it.</v>

1283
01:03:05.736 --> 01:03:06.286
Yeah.

1284
01:03:07.036 --> 01:03:11.986
<v Shannon>And Woven Waters is a fantastic brewery, by the way.</v>

1285
01:03:14.548 --> 01:03:15.298
<v Shannon>In my hometown.</v>

1286
01:03:15.598 --> 01:03:20.998
<v Greg>it's so interesting and so so good the sour hits just right</v>

1287
01:03:20.998 --> 01:03:22.348
<v Greg>to me and</v>

1288
01:03:23.098 --> 01:03:26.834
<v Jeff>it it it is it like the it feeds right into that</v>

1289
01:03:26.834 --> 01:03:30.571
<v Jeff>lime juice citric acid like the lactic and the citric are just</v>

1290
01:03:30.571 --> 01:03:34.307
<v Jeff>are so harmonious and like i said it really comes across like</v>

1291
01:03:34.307 --> 01:03:36.798
<v Jeff>pineapple juice would come across in a cocktail</v>

1292
01:03:37.198 --> 01:03:41.029
<v Greg>then the coconut adds a great amount of sweetness without going over</v>

1293
01:03:41.029 --> 01:03:47.180
<v Greg>sweet uh viscous the viscosity it brings it's really good uh it</v>

1294
01:03:47.180 --> 01:03:52.163
<v Greg>stays sour without being over sour but also without being under sour</v>

1295
01:03:52.163 --> 01:03:57.147
<v Greg>like there's so much to say about how well this is done</v>

1296
01:03:57.147 --> 01:03:57.562
<v Greg>i</v>

1297
01:03:59.462 --> 01:04:01.012
<v Jeff>Best chunky beer we've ever had.</v>

1298
01:04:01.012 --> 01:04:02.462
mean i'm

1299
01:04:04.512 --> 01:04:06.312
<v Greg>really a fan of this</v>

1300
01:04:06.962 --> 01:04:09.062
<v Shannon>It is surprisingly good.</v>

1301
01:04:12.212 --> 01:04:13.112
<v Greg>Yeah, I wish I had more of that.</v>

1302
01:04:13.762 --> 01:04:14.862
<v Greg>We do have more than that.</v>

1303
01:04:16.362 --> 01:04:19.312
<v Greg>Like, I wish I had, like, a lot more of this.</v>

1304
01:04:20.212 --> 01:04:24.962
This would, this beer will impress people as

1305
01:04:25.262 --> 01:04:28.334
<v Greg>As long as you're, like, you know, give them the right context</v>

1306
01:04:28.334 --> 01:04:28.812
<v Greg>for it.</v>

1307
01:04:28.812 --> 01:04:29.412
Yeah.

1308
01:04:30.412 --> 01:04:32.262
<v Jeff>This isn't the brewery I find.</v>

1309
01:04:32.312 --> 01:04:35.955
<v Jeff>Last week we had the beer called Prismatic or Chromatic, one of</v>

1310
01:04:35.955 --> 01:04:36.562
<v Jeff>the two.</v>

1311
01:04:37.140 --> 01:04:40.818
<v Jeff>uh and it was fine in the flight but the brewery itself</v>

1312
01:04:40.818 --> 01:04:44.190
<v Jeff>is tops it's one of the best breweries in tampa so</v>

1313
01:04:44.190 --> 01:04:48.638
<v Greg>interesting thing is this is the kind of beer that 10 years</v>

1314
01:04:48.638 --> 01:04:53.087
<v Greg>ago the beer community would have gone up been up in arms</v>

1315
01:04:53.087 --> 01:04:54.940
<v Greg>about somebody doing this maybe</v>

1316
01:04:56.290 --> 01:04:58.112
<v Jeff>so when you say 10 years ago it might actually be a</v>

1317
01:04:58.112 --> 01:04:59.934
<v Jeff>little more than 10 years because we've been out of the game</v>

1318
01:04:59.934 --> 01:05:00.390
<v Jeff>for a while</v>

1319
01:05:00.390 --> 01:05:02.740
right um i

1320
01:05:04.436 --> 01:05:08.722
<v Jeff>I don't know, because in the era you're thinking someone trying to</v>

1321
01:05:08.722 --> 01:05:10.736
<v Jeff>do this, it's not going to be good.</v>

1322
01:05:10.836 --> 01:05:12.286
<v Jeff>It's going to be a gimmick.</v>

1323
01:05:12.386 --> 01:05:14.686
<v Jeff>sure So like someone could actually pull off good.</v>

1324
01:05:14.686 --> 01:05:16.936
<v Greg>because we learned so much more about how to make</v>

1325
01:05:16.936 --> 01:05:20.569
<v Jeff>If someone could actually pull off good in that era, I don't</v>

1326
01:05:20.569 --> 01:05:20.786
<v Jeff>know.</v>

1327
01:05:20.786 --> 01:05:21.436
<v Jeff>I don't know.</v>

1328
01:05:21.436 --> 01:05:24.752
<v Greg>that's an interesting point I mean like I but I remember there</v>

1329
01:05:24.752 --> 01:05:28.068
<v Greg>was a time when you and I were both on this phase</v>

1330
01:05:28.068 --> 01:05:31.383
<v Greg>very early but like we know we don't want any flavoring we</v>

1331
01:05:31.383 --> 01:05:34.364
<v Greg>just want you know as pure as you can get uh Yeah.</v>

1332
01:05:34.364 --> 01:05:35.464
<v Greg>we don't want to</v>

1333
01:05:35.464 --> 01:05:39.414
<v Jeff>No oranges in our wheat beer, no no syrup in our Berliner</v>

1334
01:05:39.414 --> 01:05:39.764
<v Jeff>Weiss.</v>

1335
01:05:39.964 --> 01:05:44.072
<v Greg>the kind of thing that that now i look back and i</v>

1336
01:05:44.072 --> 01:05:48.181
<v Greg>think that attitude is so wrong but i think it was neat</v>

1337
01:05:48.181 --> 01:05:52.289
<v Greg>you kind of need to go through that period because you need</v>

1338
01:05:52.289 --> 01:05:56.398
<v Greg>to you need to sort of understand what confining does and how</v>

1339
01:05:56.398 --> 01:06:02.517
<v Greg>that helps and then break out of it understand how much how</v>

1340
01:06:02.517 --> 01:06:05.982
<v Greg>how actually there's so much more if you let these things in</v>

1341
01:06:05.982 --> 01:06:09.447
<v Greg>i'm not saying you have to go through that period i'm just</v>

1342
01:06:09.447 --> 01:06:12.913
<v Greg>saying that in in some ways i think it's kind of inevitable</v>

1343
01:06:12.913 --> 01:06:16.378
<v Greg>there's it's a little gatekeeping thing that happens in almost any community</v>

1344
01:06:17.778 --> 01:06:21.428
<v Shannon>So you know we have that hitchhiker key lime downstairs too.</v>

1345
01:06:23.540 --> 01:06:23.890
Okay.

1346
01:06:24.040 --> 01:06:25.740
<v Jeff>I don't think we want to double No.</v>

1347
01:06:25.740 --> 01:06:26.590
<v Jeff>up the key limes.</v>

1348
01:06:26.590 --> 01:06:28.290
<v Jeff>I don't think it'll compete with this one.</v>

1349
01:06:28.290 --> 01:06:30.090
<v Shannon>There's no comparison now.</v>

1350
01:06:30.090 --> 01:06:30.940
<v Shannon>Can you give me</v>

1351
01:06:30.940 --> 01:06:31.290
<v Jeff>And a rinse?</v>

1352
01:06:31.290 --> 01:06:34.890
<v Greg>to That's me, what's awesome is I'm left with this cool head</v>

1353
01:06:34.890 --> 01:06:35.490
<v Greg>that's coconut.</v>

1354
01:06:35.790 --> 01:06:36.590
<v Greg>Coconut And head.</v>

1355
01:06:36.590 --> 01:06:37.890
<v Greg>it tastes great.</v>

1356
01:06:39.540 --> 01:06:44.420
<v Greg>It's like a little coconut fluff dessert when I'm done with the</v>

1357
01:06:44.420 --> 01:06:45.640
<v Greg>beautiful little cocktail.</v>

1358
01:06:45.690 --> 01:06:46.540
<v Greg>Carry It's what the most</v>

1359
01:06:46.540 --> 01:06:46.640
wonderful.

1360
01:06:46.640 --> 01:06:46.890
of it.

1361
01:06:46.890 --> 01:06:47.890
<v Greg>Just wonderful.</v>

1362
01:06:48.040 --> 01:06:49.340
<v Greg>Yes, I do.</v>

1363
01:06:50.868 --> 01:06:51.468
it's

1364
01:06:52.818 --> 01:06:54.068
<v Jeff>It's almost like a meringue.</v>

1365
01:06:55.468 --> 01:06:56.968
He is so

1366
01:06:58.168 --> 01:06:58.568
<v Jeff>tasty.</v>

1367
01:07:01.168 --> 01:07:03.318
<v Jeff>I am stunned.</v>

1368
01:07:04.718 --> 01:07:08.468
<v Jeff>I figured the poppy plop would just set us up for shitting</v>

1369
01:07:08.468 --> 01:07:09.718
<v Jeff>all over this beer.</v>

1370
01:07:10.618 --> 01:07:12.768
<v Jeff>And you're It only made me more interested.</v>

1371
01:07:12.768 --> 01:07:13.073
<v Jeff>delighted.</v>

1372
01:07:13.073 --> 01:07:13.988
<v Jeff>It's so funny.</v>

1373
01:07:13.988 --> 01:07:15.818
<v Jeff>It is not what I expected.</v>

1374
01:07:16.718 --> 01:07:18.568
<v Shannon>I didn't expect this either.</v>

1375
01:07:20.692 --> 01:07:22.878
<v Greg>I wouldn't have encouraged you to drink it if I didn't find</v>

1376
01:07:22.878 --> 01:07:23.242
<v Greg>it delicious.</v>

1377
01:07:24.542 --> 01:07:25.092
Mm-hmm.

1378
01:07:25.092 --> 01:07:27.092
<v Greg>Yeah, and man,</v>

1379
01:07:27.292 --> 01:07:30.592
that's a special beer.

1380
01:07:32.692 --> 01:07:33.265
<v Jeff>All right.</v>

1381
01:07:33.265 --> 01:07:35.842
<v Jeff>What is probably our last beer of the night.</v>

1382
01:07:36.564 --> 01:07:36.564
<v Greg>At</v>

1383
01:07:36.564 --> 01:07:37.164
No least, promises.

1384
01:07:37.164 --> 01:07:38.664
<v Jeff>on the main show.</v>

1385
01:07:38.664 --> 01:07:44.459
<v Jeff>Is a barley wine, a rye whiskey barrel aged barley wine from</v>

1386
01:07:44.459 --> 01:07:46.014
<v Jeff>Armor Artist Brewing.</v>

1387
01:07:46.014 --> 01:07:49.314
<v Greg>All over the map here in terms of styles.</v>

1388
01:07:49.314 --> 01:07:50.414
<v Greg>What's it called?</v>

1389
01:07:50.414 --> 01:07:51.764
<v Jeff>It is Armor,</v>

1390
01:07:51.964 --> 01:07:54.014
A-M-O-R,

1391
01:07:54.014 --> 01:07:54.214
<v Jeff>Amor.</v>

1392
01:07:54.214 --> 01:07:56.664
<v Jeff>Armor Art Artist, A-R-T-I-S.</v>

1393
01:07:57.460 --> 01:08:00.260
<v Jeff>They're in South Carolina, right near Charlotte.</v>

1394
01:08:00.560 --> 01:08:03.110
<v Jeff>They're on the same street as Pucker Butt Pepper Company.</v>

1395
01:08:03.110 --> 01:08:04.010
<v Jeff>What's the beer called?</v>

1396
01:08:04.010 --> 01:08:06.260
<v Jeff>This is barley wine, red, It's called barley wine?</v>

1397
01:08:06.260 --> 01:08:06.610
<v Jeff>yep.</v>

1398
01:08:08.460 --> 01:08:11.310
<v Jeff>2021 small batch, rye whiskey barrel aged.</v>

1399
01:08:11.410 --> 01:08:11.910
Okay,

1400
01:08:12.010 --> 01:08:12.568
<v Greg>Amor Artis.</v>

1401
01:08:12.568 --> 01:08:14.243
<v Greg>I wonder what Amor Artis means.</v>

1402
01:08:14.243 --> 01:08:15.360
<v Greg>It means love something.</v>

1403
01:08:18.868 --> 01:08:21.568
<v Jeff>They are right down the street from Pucker Butt Pepper Company.</v>

1404
01:08:21.668 --> 01:08:24.813
<v Jeff>So Shannon and I, coming back from Florida one year, we left</v>

1405
01:08:24.813 --> 01:08:26.081
<v Jeff>at 11 p.m.</v>

1406
01:08:26.081 --> 01:08:31.150
<v Jeff>from Brooksville so we could get there during the hours where Pucker</v>

1407
01:08:31.150 --> 01:08:32.418
<v Jeff>Butt was open.</v>

1408
01:08:32.918 --> 01:08:35.468
<v Jeff>We should have known the love of craft artists.</v>

1409
01:08:36.318 --> 01:08:37.068
Oh, yes.

1410
01:08:39.796 --> 01:08:43.346
<v Jeff>And we tasted like every hot sauce at Bunker Butt and</v>

1411
01:08:43.346 --> 01:08:43.996
Oh, yeah.

1412
01:08:43.996 --> 01:08:46.325
<v Jeff>bought a ton and they gave us a ton that was about</v>

1413
01:08:46.325 --> 01:08:47.296
<v Jeff>to go out of code.</v>

1414
01:08:47.396 --> 01:08:49.446
<v Shannon>And then we went back the next day and bought more.</v>

1415
01:08:50.246 --> 01:08:52.231
<v Jeff>It wasn't the next day, it was after we went to the</v>

1416
01:08:52.231 --> 01:08:52.396
<v Jeff>brewery.</v>

1417
01:08:52.396 --> 01:08:53.546
<v Shannon>It wasn't the same day.</v>

1418
01:08:54.796 --> 01:08:57.116
<v Jeff>I went to this brewery and had a hell of a time</v>

1419
01:08:57.116 --> 01:08:57.696
<v Jeff>at this brewery.</v>

1420
01:08:57.746 --> 01:09:01.062
<v Greg>I do actually want to try some of those hot sauces again.</v>

1421
01:09:01.062 --> 01:09:02.996
<v Greg>I want to give a taste of...</v>

1422
01:09:03.604 --> 01:09:06.964
<v Greg>the the last dab and some of the other ones like just</v>

1423
01:09:06.964 --> 01:09:10.324
<v Greg>a brief little thing we don't have to do it on the</v>

1424
01:09:10.324 --> 01:09:11.104
<v Greg>show Okay.</v>

1425
01:09:12.724 --> 01:09:14.174
<v Greg>during the post show yeah yeah</v>

1426
01:09:14.174 --> 01:09:17.774
<v Jeff>no i have uh 27 different hot sauces right now so okay</v>

1427
01:09:17.774 --> 01:09:21.390
<v Greg>i want to give that a shot but speaking of parking but</v>

1428
01:09:21.390 --> 01:09:25.006
<v Greg>so i want to mention about this barley wine is that it's</v>

1429
01:09:25.006 --> 01:09:28.621
<v Greg>aged for 11 months in katoctin cry whiskey barrel creek rye whiskey</v>

1430
01:09:28.621 --> 01:09:29.224
<v Greg>barrels smells</v>

1431
01:09:29.224 --> 01:09:33.337
<v Jeff>not familiar with that one the beer pours is like it too</v>

1432
01:09:33.337 --> 01:09:36.674
<v Jeff>pretty everyone's as clear as mine like crystal clear amber Yeah.</v>

1433
01:09:36.674 --> 01:09:39.674
<v Greg>much it's a little mine's a little it has a slight more</v>

1434
01:09:39.674 --> 01:09:40.750
<v Greg>haze to it Okay.</v>

1435
01:09:40.750 --> 01:09:43.300
right a little a little darker so it's Pretty

1436
01:09:43.300 --> 01:09:43.750
<v Greg>there's a bit good.</v>

1437
01:09:43.750 --> 01:09:46.450
<v Greg>of bottle stratification but not much hopefully</v>

1438
01:09:50.200 --> 01:09:50.800
The aroma?

1439
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:55.833
<v Greg>we should say you guys aren't hearing all the noises because we're</v>

1440
01:09:55.833 --> 01:09:58.450
<v Greg>running this through this like ai It's</v>

1441
01:09:58.450 --> 01:09:58.650
filter

1442
01:09:58.650 --> 01:09:59.900
<v Jeff>AI audio.</v>

1443
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.117
<v Jeff>show processing uh so john rubio from the beerists turned me on</v>

1444
01:10:03.117 --> 01:10:06.233
<v Jeff>to it right after we came back he listened to the show</v>

1445
01:10:06.233 --> 01:10:09.350
<v Jeff>he's like dude you got to try a fun a euphonical alphonic</v>

1446
01:10:09.350 --> 01:10:10.350
<v Jeff>Alphonic, alphonic yeah.</v>

1447
01:10:10.350 --> 01:10:13.968
<v Jeff>it's a british company uh when you buy it you get two</v>

1448
01:10:13.968 --> 01:10:17.585
<v Jeff>hours a month for free then you go to the paid plan</v>

1449
01:10:17.585 --> 01:10:22.339
<v Jeff>you got to pay in pounds uh so uh but The last</v>

1450
01:10:22.339 --> 01:10:26.623
<v Jeff>couple shows, the main show was run through a phonic and the</v>

1451
01:10:26.623 --> 01:10:27.556
<v Jeff>post show wasn't.</v>

1452
01:10:27.556 --> 01:10:31.287
<v Jeff>It was just doing the cheap little tricks I can do in</v>

1453
01:10:31.287 --> 01:10:33.464
<v Jeff>Audacity and you'll hear the total difference.</v>

1454
01:10:33.664 --> 01:10:37.885
<v Jeff>It does leveling, so Shannon's levels are on par with all of</v>

1455
01:10:37.885 --> 01:10:41.314
<v Jeff>ours now where if you listen to the first couple shows back,</v>

1456
01:10:41.414 --> 01:10:42.714
<v Jeff>her levels were way lower.</v>

1457
01:10:43.700 --> 01:10:47.700
<v Jeff>and it filters out all of Cooper doing Cooper Right.</v>

1458
01:10:47.700 --> 01:10:48.050
<v Jeff>things.</v>

1459
01:10:48.250 --> 01:10:52.110
<v Shannon>Yeah, so sorry if you all really enjoyed hearing Cooper's Hearing your</v>

1460
01:10:52.110 --> 01:10:52.800
<v Shannon>dog go, what?</v>

1461
01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:53.950
<v Shannon>pitter-patter I around.</v>

1462
01:10:53.950 --> 01:10:56.950
<v Greg>don't even know if that will come through, be trying to imitate</v>

1463
01:10:56.950 --> 01:10:57.200
<v Greg>Cooper.</v>

1464
01:10:58.050 --> 01:11:03.500
<v Jeff>Yeah, I mean, so glass clinks and stuff like that, the people</v>

1465
01:11:03.500 --> 01:11:06.550
<v Jeff>who love the mouth noises, sorry.</v>

1466
01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:09.950
<v Jeff>Everyone who stopped listening 15 years ago because of the mouth noises,</v>

1467
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:11.000
<v Jeff>I should email them and let them know.</v>

1468
01:11:10.772 --> 01:11:13.272
<v Jeff>And let them know that we're taking out the mouth noises now.</v>

1469
01:11:15.322 --> 01:11:17.472
hey by the way maybe

1470
01:11:17.472 --> 01:11:20.686
<v Jeff>I know you stopped listening back in 2006 because you hate other</v>

1471
01:11:20.686 --> 01:11:21.222
<v Jeff>mouth noises.</v>

1472
01:11:21.322 --> 01:11:23.622
<v Jeff>Well, now we have AI, so come back.</v>

1473
01:11:26.422 --> 01:11:29.422
<v Greg>in a different area of your life now you're not really interested</v>

1474
01:11:29.422 --> 01:11:32.172
<v Greg>in listening to a beer podcast but hey just in case</v>

1475
01:11:35.764 --> 01:11:38.487
<v Jeff>You mentioned today that you read the new intro or the bio</v>

1476
01:11:38.487 --> 01:11:39.364
<v Jeff>or Yes, the intro</v>

1477
01:11:39.364 --> 01:11:40.414
and I really liked it.

1478
01:11:40.414 --> 01:11:42.814
<v Jeff>on the craftyradio.com webpage.</v>

1479
01:11:43.064 --> 01:11:45.864
<v Jeff>Yeah, I rewrote it when we rebooted the show and it was</v>

1480
01:11:45.864 --> 01:11:47.264
<v Jeff>a little help from Bing Chat.</v>

1481
01:11:48.564 --> 01:11:50.314
<v Greg>So the AI gave a little bit of a...</v>

1482
01:11:50.314 --> 01:11:52.483
<v Jeff>So a little bit of a, I'm not going to read it</v>

1483
01:11:52.483 --> 01:11:52.664
<v Jeff>here.</v>

1484
01:11:52.714 --> 01:11:54.664
<v Jeff>You can go to craftyradio.com and read it.</v>

1485
01:11:54.664 --> 01:11:55.395
<v Jeff>It's worth it.</v>

1486
01:11:55.395 --> 01:11:56.614
<v Jeff>It'll make you chuckle probably.</v>

1487
01:11:56.914 --> 01:11:57.864
<v Jeff>Maybe chuckle.</v>

1488
01:11:59.284 --> 01:11:59.684
Okay,

1489
01:11:59.734 --> 01:12:00.684
<v Jeff>the aroma on this guy.</v>

1490
01:12:00.784 --> 01:12:05.096
<v Jeff>It's the rye whiskey, that barrel tannins, it's huge on the aroma.</v>

1491
01:12:05.096 --> 01:12:06.634
<v Jeff>It's really killing the malt.</v>

1492
01:12:06.684 --> 01:12:09.548
<v Jeff>It doesn't, I'm not excited.</v>

1493
01:12:09.548 --> 01:12:12.984
<v Jeff>Like the aroma smells like booze.</v>

1494
01:12:12.984 --> 01:12:18.734
<v Greg>Boozy is 11.7%, so it is boozy, but it smells even boozier.</v>

1495
01:12:18.984 --> 01:12:19.484
Yeah.

1496
01:12:24.500 --> 01:12:27.038
<v Jeff>So I had their barley wine when we were there.</v>

1497
01:12:27.038 --> 01:12:27.800
<v Jeff>It was delicious.</v>

1498
01:12:27.950 --> 01:12:30.830
<v Jeff>And I don't think they had the regular barley wine in bottles</v>

1499
01:12:30.830 --> 01:12:32.950
<v Jeff>or I'm like, I'm going to fly close to the sun and</v>

1500
01:12:32.950 --> 01:12:33.700
<v Jeff>get the rye barrel one.</v>

1501
01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:35.200
But.

1502
01:12:36.468 --> 01:12:37.118
<v Jeff>Oh, you like?</v>

1503
01:12:37.118 --> 01:12:37.618
<v Jeff>I I really</v>

1504
01:12:37.618 --> 01:12:37.668
like

1505
01:12:37.668 --> 01:12:39.068
<v Greg>love the caramel at the end of this.</v>

1506
01:12:39.068 --> 01:12:39.618
<v Greg>Yeah.</v>

1507
01:12:39.668 --> 01:12:42.999
<v Greg>There's a nice, like, the first bit is very barley wine and</v>

1508
01:12:42.999 --> 01:12:46.330
<v Greg>whiskey, but then it ends on this real caramel note and a</v>

1509
01:12:46.330 --> 01:12:48.068
<v Greg>little bit of woodiness too, I'm but this is nice.</v>

1510
01:12:48.068 --> 01:12:49.718
going to have to swirl the bottle a little bit.

1511
01:12:49.968 --> 01:12:51.918
<v Jeff>And I'm going to add a little more to mine.</v>

1512
01:12:51.968 --> 01:12:55.697
<v Jeff>Mine was the first pour, and mine is so sharp with wood</v>

1513
01:12:55.697 --> 01:12:56.868
<v Jeff>tannins and Well, here,</v>

1514
01:12:56.918 --> 01:12:57.318
let's rye.

1515
01:12:57.318 --> 01:13:00.168
<v Jeff>do the thing.</v>

1516
01:13:00.168 --> 01:13:01.318
<v Jeff>Oh, mixing mix?</v>

1517
01:13:01.318 --> 01:13:01.768
<v Jeff>Yeah.</v>

1518
01:13:02.516 --> 01:13:04.366
<v Jeff>let's do a three-way mixy mix oh</v>

1519
01:13:05.966 --> 01:13:11.109
menage a trois craft beer we have a title craft beer does

1520
01:13:11.109 --> 01:13:16.916
a three-way All right.

1521
01:13:17.416 --> 01:13:21.261
<v Jeff>all right so yeah my first sip was there was a little</v>

1522
01:13:21.261 --> 01:13:25.107
<v Jeff>bit of caramel in there but really the knife that was barrel</v>

1523
01:13:25.107 --> 01:13:28.952
<v Jeff>tannins and rye was gross so hopefully now that i blend a</v>

1524
01:13:28.952 --> 01:13:31.516
<v Jeff>little bit i'm actually getting more tannins now</v>

1525
01:13:33.844 --> 01:13:34.094
um

1526
01:13:34.094 --> 01:13:34.544
<v Jeff>It's so</v>

1527
01:13:34.544 --> 01:13:34.944
definitely, yeah

1528
01:13:34.944 --> 01:13:36.994
<v Shannon>it has a lot of tannins,</v>

1529
01:13:36.994 --> 01:13:38.394
yeah but it

1530
01:13:38.694 --> 01:13:40.444
<v Jeff>mine's better i'm more of a beer flavor or</v>

1531
01:13:40.444 --> 01:13:40.794
was just.

1532
01:13:40.794 --> 01:13:42.644
<v Jeff>before it was more like turpentine</v>

1533
01:13:42.944 --> 01:13:46.737
<v Greg>yeah a lot of lacing i mean i can i can get</v>

1534
01:13:46.737 --> 01:13:50.530
<v Greg>those elements because there's there's definitely a lot of stratification so there's</v>

1535
01:13:50.530 --> 01:13:53.387
<v Greg>more of that you here let's know a mean little bit of</v>

1536
01:13:53.387 --> 01:13:54.244
<v Greg>chemically thing that didn't</v>

1537
01:13:54.244 --> 01:13:57.108
<v Jeff>it's our last beer let's just use the whole bottle get all</v>

1538
01:13:57.108 --> 01:14:00.720
<v Jeff>the stratty let's get all the strata in our glass All right.</v>

1539
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:02.240
<v Jeff>I'm going to go slow on this one.</v>

1540
01:14:02.790 --> 01:14:03.490
Mm-hmm.

1541
01:14:03.690 --> 01:14:04.440
<v Greg>11.7%.</v>

1542
01:14:04.440 --> 01:14:05.940
<v Greg>It's exciting</v>

1543
01:14:05.940 --> 01:14:07.690
<v Shannon>It's going to make for a great post show.</v>

1544
01:14:07.690 --> 01:14:09.890
<v Greg>times.</v>

1545
01:14:10.090 --> 01:14:11.340
<v Greg>There's lots to talk about.</v>

1546
01:14:11.340 --> 01:14:14.740
<v Jeff>So Fork Mill, South Carolina is where this is.</v>

1547
01:14:15.990 --> 01:14:18.279
<v Jeff>It's this little main street with this brewery on one end of</v>

1548
01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:20.568
<v Jeff>the main street and the pepper company at the other end of</v>

1549
01:14:20.568 --> 01:14:21.140
<v Jeff>the main street.</v>

1550
01:14:21.290 --> 01:14:24.640
<v Shannon>And then wasn't there another brewery right across from this one?</v>

1551
01:14:24.740 --> 01:14:25.490
<v Shannon>Or No, was that?</v>

1552
01:14:25.490 --> 01:14:27.190
<v Jeff>there was a restaurant or something.</v>

1553
01:14:28.724 --> 01:14:29.624
<v Jeff>There was a barbecue Oh,</v>

1554
01:14:29.624 --> 01:14:30.574
place right yes, next door.

1555
01:14:30.574 --> 01:14:31.324
<v Shannon>the barbecue place.</v>

1556
01:14:31.324 --> 01:14:34.198
<v Jeff>It was a barbecue place right next door to this and then</v>

1557
01:14:34.198 --> 01:14:37.889
<v Jeff>this place and then the pepper company And it's just on the</v>

1558
01:14:37.889 --> 01:14:39.674
<v Jeff>other side of the state line from Charlotte</v>

1559
01:14:41.124 --> 01:14:42.024
If anything,

1560
01:14:42.174 --> 01:14:45.545
<v Greg>I hate to say this, but we should have poured your bit</v>

1561
01:14:45.545 --> 01:14:48.074
<v Greg>out as the angels share because I think a</v>

1562
01:14:48.074 --> 01:14:49.574
<v Jeff>I made everyone's worse</v>

1563
01:14:49.674 --> 01:14:51.374
little bit, you

1564
01:14:53.424 --> 01:14:55.424
<v Greg>Didn't know, yeah, it happens.</v>

1565
01:14:56.308 --> 01:14:58.808
<v Greg>But I think that it was better before that.</v>

1566
01:14:59.158 --> 01:15:02.046
<v Greg>And now there's a little bit of just a little bit of</v>

1567
01:15:02.046 --> 01:15:03.008
<v Greg>turpentine Oh, in here.</v>

1568
01:15:03.008 --> 01:15:03.508
<v Shannon>yeah.</v>

1569
01:15:04.558 --> 01:15:05.608
<v Shannon>Nope, you're right.</v>

1570
01:15:07.308 --> 01:15:07.908
So it's

1571
01:15:07.908 --> 01:15:09.208
<v Jeff>I'm sorry, guys.</v>

1572
01:15:09.208 --> 01:15:09.558
<v Jeff>yeah.</v>

1573
01:15:09.908 --> 01:15:10.370
<v Jeff>Yeah.</v>

1574
01:15:10.370 --> 01:15:11.758
<v Jeff>How dare you?</v>

1575
01:15:11.758 --> 01:15:12.158
<v Jeff>I know.</v>

1576
01:15:12.158 --> 01:15:13.408
<v Jeff>How dare you?</v>

1577
01:15:15.092 --> 01:15:16.942
<v Jeff>it's kind of thing you only get in hindsight is Yes.</v>

1578
01:15:16.942 --> 01:15:18.592
like oh we should have thrown your part out Yeah.

1579
01:15:18.592 --> 01:15:21.392
<v Jeff>that it was so much worse than everything else</v>

1580
01:15:21.392 --> 01:15:24.392
<v Greg>I mean, typically mixing it makes it better,</v>

1581
01:15:24.492 --> 01:15:26.592
so we were on the right track.

1582
01:15:29.192 --> 01:15:31.242
a failed three-way probably

1583
01:15:32.292 --> 01:15:35.192
<v Greg>I imagine they happen more often than you might think.</v>

1584
01:15:35.192 --> 01:15:36.642
<v Greg>It's just not really advertised.</v>

1585
01:15:37.092 --> 01:15:38.592
happen all the time

1586
01:15:41.428 --> 01:15:43.528
<v Greg>A failed three-way is probably an even better show title.</v>

1587
01:15:43.528 --> 01:15:47.152
<v Jeff>One thing I want to mention real quick is a lot of</v>

1588
01:15:47.152 --> 01:15:50.776
<v Jeff>our listeners may have listened to the beer report with Groucho and</v>

1589
01:15:50.776 --> 01:15:51.078
<v Jeff>Chud.</v>

1590
01:15:52.278 --> 01:15:52.428
Okay.

1591
01:15:52.428 --> 01:15:53.328
Remember the beer

1592
01:15:53.328 --> 01:15:53.578
<v Jeff>I report?</v>

1593
01:15:53.578 --> 01:15:53.828
do,

1594
01:15:53.828 --> 01:15:54.178
<v Jeff>Okay, yeah.</v>

1595
01:15:54.178 --> 01:15:58.678
<v Jeff>so Eric is Groucho and a year ago,</v>

1596
01:15:58.678 --> 01:16:00.428
<v Greg>I thought his real name was Groucho.</v>

1597
01:16:00.428 --> 01:16:04.028
<v Jeff>but a year ago, his daughter was diagnosed with brain cancer.</v>

1598
01:16:05.300 --> 01:16:06.050
<v Jeff>That's terrible.</v>

1599
01:16:06.050 --> 01:16:06.600
<v Jeff>Yeah.</v>

1600
01:16:06.700 --> 01:16:08.900
<v Jeff>And she just passed this past week.</v>

1601
01:16:09.200 --> 01:16:13.743
<v Jeff>So if you remember those guys and haven't thought about them in</v>

1602
01:16:13.743 --> 01:16:16.150
<v Jeff>a while, just letting you know.</v>

1603
01:16:16.350 --> 01:16:18.400
<v Jeff>And it's,</v>

1604
01:16:18.450 --> 01:16:22.479
<v Greg>if you feel like you want to donate something to us, donate</v>

1605
01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:23.150
<v Greg>to them.</v>

1606
01:16:23.250 --> 01:16:26.450
<v Greg>Donate to, if they have a, if they have a memorial</v>

1607
01:16:26.450 --> 01:16:27.200
<v Jeff>there's</v>

1608
01:16:27.200 --> 01:16:28.550
<v Greg>for their</v>

1609
01:16:28.550 --> 01:16:30.650
<v Jeff>a scholarship fund that they're putting together.</v>

1610
01:16:32.308 --> 01:16:33.408
<v Shannon>We can put it on the Discord.</v>

1611
01:16:33.558 --> 01:16:37.443
<v Jeff>i'll put on the discord yeah instead of putting out in the</v>

1612
01:16:37.443 --> 01:16:41.327
<v Jeff>podcast so eric has a blog where you can he's been very</v>

1613
01:16:41.327 --> 01:16:45.212
<v Jeff>public with the fight for the past year and um and they're</v>

1614
01:16:45.212 --> 01:16:49.096
<v Jeff>working on setting up a scholarship fund i don't haven't seen the</v>

1615
01:16:49.096 --> 01:16:52.981
<v Jeff>actual details yet but they would be forthcoming but yeah so here</v>

1616
01:16:52.981 --> 01:16:56.866
<v Jeff>there's a lot of crossover and it's been a really hard year</v>

1617
01:16:56.866 --> 01:16:58.808
<v Jeff>for eric and his family so</v>

1618
01:17:01.684 --> 01:17:05.751
<v Greg>Well, now that we're done bumming everybody out, let's talk about what</v>

1619
01:17:05.751 --> 01:17:06.884
<v Greg>we had.</v>

1620
01:17:06.984 --> 01:17:11.084
<v Greg>So we had smorgasbord of styles here.</v>

1621
01:17:13.684 --> 01:17:16.234
<v Greg>It started with this big smoky thing.</v>

1622
01:17:17.234 --> 01:17:19.684
<v Greg>Moved on to Three Floyds, a classic.</v>

1623
01:17:20.234 --> 01:17:20.934
<v Greg>Mm-hmm.</v>

1624
01:17:21.684 --> 01:17:23.934
<v Greg>Then the Barrel</v>

1625
01:17:23.934 --> 01:17:26.434
<v Jeff>-Aged Golden Sour The thingy.</v>

1626
01:17:26.434 --> 01:17:27.534
Golden Sour, then...

1627
01:17:29.236 --> 01:17:30.136
<v Greg>Then was it Yeah, the,</v>

1628
01:17:30.286 --> 01:17:30.336
right.

1629
01:17:30.336 --> 01:17:33.236
<v Jeff>the marshmallows, and then the red sour, We and</v>

1630
01:17:33.236 --> 01:17:34.336
really mixed it then up.

1631
01:17:34.336 --> 01:17:38.836
<v Jeff>the clumpy clumper, and then the turpentine-y bar light.</v>

1632
01:17:38.836 --> 01:17:39.436
Okay, well,

1633
01:17:39.536 --> 01:17:43.093
<v Greg>I mean, do you want to save our rankings for the post</v>

1634
01:17:43.093 --> 01:17:43.686
<v Greg>show again?</v>

1635
01:17:44.276 --> 01:17:45.276
<v Greg>Nah, we can rank.</v>

1636
01:17:45.276 --> 01:17:47.826
<v Greg>Okay, it's our gimmick, right?</v>

1637
01:17:49.176 --> 01:17:50.076
<v Greg>I'll go first.</v>

1638
01:17:50.126 --> 01:17:50.626
<v Greg>Okay.</v>

1639
01:17:50.726 --> 01:17:51.376
<v Greg>All right.</v>

1640
01:17:51.476 --> 01:17:56.326
<v Greg>So my favorite beer tonight was the cocktail on the Killing Tide.</v>

1641
01:17:56.326 --> 01:17:57.126
<v Greg>Buildings suspense.</v>

1642
01:17:57.626 --> 01:17:58.826
<v Greg>Why aren't you building suspense?</v>

1643
01:17:58.826 --> 01:18:00.476
<v Greg>I'm going backwards, baby.</v>

1644
01:18:00.626 --> 01:18:03.276
We shall not sound effects tonight.

1645
01:18:03.376 --> 01:18:04.226
That's true.

1646
01:18:04.276 --> 01:18:05.376
<v Greg>I didn't even think about it.</v>

1647
01:18:08.126 --> 01:18:09.826
<v Greg>Jeff is now playing with his...</v>

1648
01:18:11.028 --> 01:18:11.628
<v Greg>There he is.</v>

1649
01:18:14.178 --> 01:18:19.401
<v Greg>um okay so in so right after that i actually i don't</v>

1650
01:18:19.401 --> 01:18:24.623
<v Greg>know to me this was by far my favorite of the night</v>

1651
01:18:24.623 --> 01:18:29.846
<v Greg>the killing time like that was the beer that it it was</v>

1652
01:18:29.846 --> 01:18:36.084
<v Greg>not just delicious it also gave me joy just everything about it</v>

1653
01:18:36.084 --> 01:18:37.284
<v Greg>was joyful from</v>

1654
01:18:37.284 --> 01:18:38.734
From the plops to splitting

1655
01:18:38.734 --> 01:18:41.034
<v Jeff>the yeah out the foam.</v>

1656
01:18:41.034 --> 01:18:47.559
<v Greg>yeah so so great so different so just fantastic okay hey where</v>

1657
01:18:47.559 --> 01:18:54.084
<v Greg>am i going next um i'm gonna go with the burial next</v>

1658
01:18:54.084 --> 01:19:00.609
<v Greg>i think that in terms of deliciousness the burial was really high</v>

1659
01:19:00.609 --> 01:19:08.868
<v Greg>on that list not Not a Flanders, not a</v>

1660
01:19:08.868 --> 01:19:15.510
<v Greg>lambic, something more like a traditional sour, if you will,</v>

1661
01:19:15.610 --> 01:19:17.760
but very tasty.

1662
01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:21.503
<v Jeff>it's definitely a crossover of a bunch of different things like all</v>

1663
01:19:21.503 --> 01:19:24.160
<v Jeff>the different souring techniques are all playing in there</v>

1664
01:19:25.236 --> 01:19:27.659
<v Greg>I'm going to go with the three Floyds next.</v>

1665
01:19:27.659 --> 01:19:30.890
<v Greg>I think that that kind of surprised me by just how much</v>

1666
01:19:30.890 --> 01:19:32.236
<v Greg>I kind of enjoyed it.</v>

1667
01:19:33.286 --> 01:19:33.786
Yeah, no,

1668
01:19:33.936 --> 01:19:36.836
<v Greg>this is my time.</v>

1669
01:19:36.986 --> 01:19:37.686
<v Greg>I get to do it.</v>

1670
01:19:37.686 --> 01:19:39.036
<v Shannon>No, I was wondering</v>

1671
01:19:39.036 --> 01:19:39.636
You're which pointing to...

1672
01:19:39.636 --> 01:19:40.236
one was which.

1673
01:19:40.236 --> 01:19:41.236
<v Greg>Yeah, yeah, the three Floyds.</v>

1674
01:19:41.236 --> 01:19:41.786
<v Greg>Yeah, okay.</v>

1675
01:19:41.786 --> 01:19:42.371
<v Greg>The IPA.</v>

1676
01:19:42.371 --> 01:19:45.882
<v Greg>I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it because I don't</v>

1677
01:19:45.882 --> 01:19:49.393
<v Greg>remember enjoying zombie dust that much, but apparently I like it a</v>

1678
01:19:49.393 --> 01:19:49.686
<v Greg>lot.</v>

1679
01:19:50.228 --> 01:19:53.701
<v Greg>so something to note a i'm going to go with the farm</v>

1680
01:19:53.701 --> 01:19:57.173
<v Greg>boy next very complex i loved how interesting it was just wasn't</v>

1681
01:19:57.173 --> 01:20:01.458
<v Greg>the most delicious thing in the world to me had some things</v>

1682
01:20:01.458 --> 01:20:07.387
<v Greg>that were i'd still love to sit down with the beer and</v>

1683
01:20:07.387 --> 01:20:11.693
<v Greg>you taste it but it's just not like i'm this is my</v>

1684
01:20:11.693 --> 01:20:15.999
<v Greg>rank so i get to do it my way shut up uh</v>

1685
01:20:15.999 --> 01:20:20.305
<v Greg>okay i would go with if this the first taste of this</v>

1686
01:20:20.305 --> 01:20:23.758
<v Greg>barley wine was really high and Poor Jeff ruined it.</v>

1687
01:20:23.758 --> 01:20:28.058
<v Greg>but now it's it's really low for me uh i think that</v>

1688
01:20:28.596 --> 01:20:33.807
<v Greg>i think i'm gonna go with the rizzy as smoky and as</v>

1689
01:20:33.807 --> 01:20:38.274
<v Greg>it was it didn't kind of gross me out like these two</v>

1690
01:20:38.274 --> 01:20:39.196
<v Greg>are Mm-hmm.</v>

1691
01:20:39.796 --> 01:20:43.512
<v Greg>uh the last two so the the hot farm smoky one then</v>

1692
01:20:43.512 --> 01:20:47.228
<v Greg>i guess i'll go with the barley wine and then the purifying</v>

1693
01:20:47.228 --> 01:20:51.796
<v Greg>flame i really don't like at all Do you want to go</v>

1694
01:20:51.796 --> 01:20:52.750
<v Greg>or would you like me to go next?</v>

1695
01:20:52.750 --> 01:20:55.050
<v Shannon>You can go next and then I need Would a chance.</v>

1696
01:20:55.050 --> 01:20:56.121
<v Greg>you like to spoon to point?</v>

1697
01:20:56.121 --> 01:20:56.350
<v Greg>Because Yes.</v>

1698
01:20:56.350 --> 01:20:56.550
<v Greg>Yeah,</v>

1699
01:20:56.550 --> 01:20:57.450
that's so I'll point My like this.

1700
01:20:57.450 --> 01:20:57.700
very direction

1701
01:20:57.700 --> 01:20:58.000
<v Greg>very useful</v>

1702
01:20:58.000 --> 01:20:58.700
for that.

1703
01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:03.038
<v Jeff>All right, I will start from the bottom and that's going to</v>

1704
01:21:03.038 --> 01:21:04.450
<v Jeff>be the purifying flame.</v>

1705
01:21:04.650 --> 01:21:05.700
<v Jeff>That was a drain pour.</v>

1706
01:21:06.450 --> 01:21:08.600
<v Jeff>Oh, there's still more than I can for us to pour out.</v>

1707
01:21:08.650 --> 01:21:09.150
<v Jeff>That'll be fun.</v>

1708
01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:11.100
<v Jeff>That, that.</v>

1709
01:21:12.084 --> 01:21:16.423
<v Jeff>chocolate was okay at first and then really quick it tasted fakey</v>

1710
01:21:16.423 --> 01:21:20.763
<v Jeff>and it was just the fakey just like grew and grew and</v>

1711
01:21:20.763 --> 01:21:25.102
<v Jeff>grew it was just awful um then second to last i think</v>

1712
01:21:25.102 --> 01:21:29.441
<v Jeff>i'm going to put this barley wine from a more artiste um</v>

1713
01:21:29.441 --> 01:21:32.884
<v Jeff>it's just that rye wood barrel turpentine thing Yeah, just over</v>

1714
01:21:32.884 --> 01:21:34.734
there's good stuff there, overtook but it's the beer

1715
01:21:34.734 --> 01:21:35.384
<v Greg>overshadowed.</v>

1716
01:21:36.458 --> 01:21:37.208
then

1717
01:21:37.208 --> 01:21:41.039
<v Greg>let me get also make some that go away but not entirely</v>

1718
01:21:41.039 --> 01:21:41.358
<v Greg>especially</v>

1719
01:21:41.358 --> 01:21:44.681
<v Jeff>then i'm gonna take the grotsky this is where in beers i</v>

1720
01:21:44.681 --> 01:21:48.004
<v Jeff>just generally liked like i would drink more of that easy peasy</v>

1721
01:21:48.004 --> 01:21:51.887
<v Jeff>um especially if you add some sauce yeah we're just not thinking</v>

1722
01:21:51.887 --> 01:21:58.076
<v Jeff>about it um the body and the smoke thing was nice works</v>

1723
01:21:58.076 --> 01:22:05.509
<v Jeff>um then i think you It's tough.</v>

1724
01:22:05.509 --> 01:22:06.231
<v Jeff>It's tough.</v>

1725
01:22:06.231 --> 01:22:09.838
<v Jeff>It's tough because because the zombie dust was so good.</v>

1726
01:22:09.888 --> 01:22:12.688
<v Jeff>I'm debating whether the burial was under it or not.</v>

1727
01:22:16.564 --> 01:22:21.007
<v Jeff>i can't it just can't i can't make that stretch so next</v>

1728
01:22:21.007 --> 01:22:25.450
<v Jeff>is zombie dust loved it i thought it was super chill with</v>

1729
01:22:25.450 --> 01:22:29.893
<v Jeff>the big bread malts and the kind of sweet citrusy hops rooted</v>

1730
01:22:29.893 --> 01:22:32.114
<v Jeff>marts are not particularly old not</v>

1731
01:22:32.114 --> 01:22:34.364
<v Greg>super young but not particularly old either so yeah</v>

1732
01:22:34.364 --> 01:22:38.164
<v Jeff>it still had a great balance to it um if it was</v>

1733
01:22:38.164 --> 01:22:41.014
<v Jeff>hoppier i might not like it as much i</v>

1734
01:22:41.014 --> 01:22:41.164
thought yeah

1735
01:22:41.164 --> 01:22:46.530
<v Jeff>the balance was dead on then the burial um it had that</v>

1736
01:22:46.530 --> 01:22:52.334
<v Jeff>jammy aroma and those big brambleberry type flavors that i loved the</v>

1737
01:22:52.334 --> 01:22:58.137
<v Jeff>the souring was a little schizophrenic coming from like three different locations</v>

1738
01:22:58.137 --> 01:23:03.941
<v Jeff>and like there wasn't very much barn farmhouse kind of thing um</v>

1739
01:23:03.941 --> 01:23:09.744
<v Jeff>if they could have elevated some more farmhousey barney things i probably</v>

1740
01:23:09.744 --> 01:23:12.646
<v Jeff>would have liked it better better</v>

1741
01:23:13.460 --> 01:23:17.560
Then we're down to the top two.

1742
01:23:20.510 --> 01:23:25.210
<v Jeff>Oh man, I'm Go with what your heart says.</v>

1743
01:23:25.210 --> 01:23:28.710
<v Jeff>going to pick the woven water in second place.</v>

1744
01:23:28.910 --> 01:23:33.060
<v Jeff>Delicious cocktail beer, very drinkable, too drinkable.</v>

1745
01:23:33.684 --> 01:23:34.784
<v Jeff>crushable if Mm-hmm.</v>

1746
01:23:34.784 --> 01:23:40.143
<v Jeff>you will um just it it reminds me of painkillers and it's</v>

1747
01:23:40.143 --> 01:23:45.503
<v Jeff>so good uh but i really really dialed into the complexity of</v>

1748
01:23:45.503 --> 01:23:50.862
<v Jeff>that farm boy it gave me things to look at around every</v>

1749
01:23:50.862 --> 01:23:56.221
<v Jeff>corner it i was walking through an old rustic barn with saddles</v>

1750
01:23:56.221 --> 01:24:02.235
<v Jeff>hanging on the walls and creaky floorboards and some straw and It</v>

1751
01:24:02.235 --> 01:24:05.190
<v Jeff>just painted the picture that I wanted it to paint.</v>

1752
01:24:05.240 --> 01:24:05.940
<v Jeff>It was delicious.</v>

1753
01:24:07.090 --> 01:24:07.640
Okay.

1754
01:24:08.240 --> 01:24:08.740
Wow.

1755
01:24:08.890 --> 01:24:09.390
<v Shannon>All right.</v>

1756
01:24:09.540 --> 01:24:10.490
<v Shannon>So I</v>

1757
01:24:10.490 --> 01:24:11.540
Give her the spoon.

1758
01:24:11.540 --> 01:24:12.690
<v Jeff>can't Here you go, have a spoon.</v>

1759
01:24:12.690 --> 01:24:13.340
even, You can't

1760
01:24:13.340 --> 01:24:14.657
<v Jeff>and do it without a spoon anymore.</v>

1761
01:24:14.657 --> 01:24:15.090
<v Jeff>It's in your</v>

1762
01:24:15.090 --> 01:24:15.390
I rules.

1763
01:24:15.390 --> 01:24:17.640
<v Shannon>have to turn these cans around so that I can see.</v>

1764
01:24:17.790 --> 01:24:20.559
<v Greg>Yeah, we used to actually do that all the time.</v>

1765
01:24:20.559 --> 01:24:21.240
<v Greg>We used to move</v>

1766
01:24:21.240 --> 01:24:22.040
actually move the labels.

1767
01:24:22.040 --> 01:24:24.890
<v Jeff>them around so we could keep track when we're mild inebriation would</v>

1768
01:24:24.890 --> 01:24:26.790
<v Jeff>make it hard to keep track of things.</v>

1769
01:24:27.540 --> 01:24:28.090
Wow.

1770
01:24:28.190 --> 01:24:28.740
<v Shannon>All right.</v>

1771
01:24:28.790 --> 01:24:29.090
<v Shannon>So.</v>

1772
01:24:33.620 --> 01:24:36.320
<v Shannon>Oh, should I start with my favorite or my least favorite?</v>

1773
01:24:36.320 --> 01:24:37.270
<v Shannon>that's up to you</v>

1774
01:24:37.270 --> 01:24:38.770
If you want to build suspense or do it easily,

1775
01:24:38.770 --> 01:24:41.220
<v Greg>differently I start with number one he started with his last favorite</v>

1776
01:24:41.220 --> 01:24:41.870
<v Greg>Yeah, who do</v>

1777
01:24:41.870 --> 01:24:42.920
<v Shannon>build suspense.</v>

1778
01:24:42.920 --> 01:24:44.920
<v Greg>you respect more whoever you mimic is who</v>

1779
01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:45.670
Don't you respect more.

1780
01:24:45.670 --> 01:24:46.670
<v Shannon>do that to me.</v>

1781
01:24:48.470 --> 01:24:50.220
<v Shannon>Least favorite first.</v>

1782
01:24:50.870 --> 01:24:54.420
<v Shannon>I'm going to have to go with this purifying flame.</v>

1783
01:24:56.670 --> 01:24:58.370
<v Greg>drain pour usually is going</v>

1784
01:24:58.370 --> 01:24:59.870
It is to be definitely an early a drain pour.

1785
01:25:00.020 --> 01:25:01.720
<v Shannon>I know I said I liked it.</v>

1786
01:25:02.164 --> 01:25:02.664
<v Shannon>Yeah.</v>

1787
01:25:03.964 --> 01:25:06.064
<v Shannon>I know I said I liked it at the beginning.</v>

1788
01:25:08.914 --> 01:25:13.614
<v Shannon>Now it just reminds me of a What if the sound effects</v>

1789
01:25:13.614 --> 01:25:13.714
heart.

1790
01:25:13.714 --> 01:25:14.314
will make it

1791
01:25:14.614 --> 01:25:15.164
<v Greg>What's What that?</v>

1792
01:25:15.164 --> 01:25:17.264
<v Greg>if the sound effects will make it through the I Probably.</v>

1793
01:25:17.264 --> 01:25:18.664
<v Greg>I don't know We'll see</v>

1794
01:25:19.264 --> 01:25:23.464
<v Shannon>But this, it actually reminds me of one of those candle tarts.</v>

1795
01:25:24.404 --> 01:25:25.104
candle tarts

1796
01:25:25.104 --> 01:25:25.454
<v Greg>Yeah.</v>

1797
01:25:25.454 --> 01:25:25.754
<v Greg>candle tarts</v>

1798
01:25:25.754 --> 01:25:26.004
Well,

1799
01:25:26.004 --> 01:25:28.104
<v Greg>smells yeah, like it doesn't</v>

1800
01:25:28.104 --> 01:25:29.354
it's smell like the wax, sounds like it's a like

1801
01:25:29.354 --> 01:25:30.454
<v Shannon>the candle wax that you a put</v>

1802
01:25:30.454 --> 01:25:30.804
weird like in.

1803
01:25:30.804 --> 01:25:32.404
kind of fart you get when you get candles

1804
01:25:32.804 --> 01:25:37.811
<v Shannon>Yeah, i it's got a candle tart to make the house smell</v>

1805
01:25:37.811 --> 01:25:38.754
<v Shannon>like chocolate.</v>

1806
01:25:38.804 --> 01:25:42.054
<v Shannon>Yeah, that's exactly what it tastes like.</v>

1807
01:25:42.054 --> 01:25:45.792
<v Jeff>oh i see what you're saying it smells like a chocolate aromatic</v>

1808
01:25:45.792 --> 01:25:46.704
<v Jeff>thing yes yes</v>

1809
01:25:46.704 --> 01:25:47.704
yes or

1810
01:25:47.704 --> 01:25:51.354
<v Jeff>yeah totally does a car car air freshener like a chocolate</v>

1811
01:25:51.572 --> 01:25:53.872
<v Shannon>One of the, Something, yeah, yeah, candles.</v>

1812
01:25:54.572 --> 01:25:57.991
<v Shannon>All right, so that's my least favorite.</v>

1813
01:25:57.991 --> 01:26:04.772
<v Shannon>Next would have to be, dang, like that.</v>

1814
01:26:06.022 --> 01:26:06.872
This is tough.

1815
01:26:06.972 --> 01:26:10.572
<v Shannon>Okay, I'm sorry, guys, but I'm going to have to say this</v>

1816
01:26:10.572 --> 01:26:11.472
<v Shannon>zombie dust is.</v>

1817
01:26:11.472 --> 01:26:13.122
<v Jeff>How dare you?</v>

1818
01:26:13.122 --> 01:26:15.322
<v Jeff>There's no wrong answers.</v>

1819
01:26:15.522 --> 01:26:16.672
<v Jeff>There's just wrong people.</v>

1820
01:26:18.068 --> 01:26:26.330
<v Shannon>um then i'm gonna have to go with the armor artists</v>

1821
01:26:26.330 --> 01:26:28.068
<v Shannon>the barley wine and</v>

1822
01:26:29.668 --> 01:26:33.208
<v Greg>yeah pretty consistent so far i mean like it was putting three</v>

1823
01:26:33.208 --> 01:26:35.568
<v Greg>feeds in but the low part's pretty consistent</v>

1824
01:26:36.468 --> 01:26:42.430
<v Shannon>the um this is really tough now getting closer to the beginning</v>

1825
01:26:42.430 --> 01:26:46.950
<v Shannon>i know my favorite Which is surprising.</v>

1826
01:26:49.450 --> 01:26:52.000
<v Shannon>I'm going to have to say next</v>

1827
01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:55.635
<v Greg>foreshadowing it's part of why i think it's my favorite too is</v>

1828
01:26:55.635 --> 01:26:57.150
<v Greg>how surprising it was featured</v>

1829
01:26:57.150 --> 01:27:02.864
<v Shannon>would be the, oh, no, I'm going to have to go with,</v>

1830
01:27:02.864 --> 01:27:04.600
<v Shannon>what is this, the hot dog,</v>

1831
01:27:04.600 --> 01:27:05.450
the moose the from up moose.

1832
01:27:05.450 --> 01:27:05.650
there

1833
01:27:06.750 --> 01:27:08.150
<v Shannon>I like the smoked.</v>

1834
01:27:08.450 --> 01:27:12.861
<v Jeff>on Uh, react rock beer Rock of the week or beer of</v>

1835
01:27:12.861 --> 01:27:13.236
<v Jeff>the week.</v>

1836
01:27:13.236 --> 01:27:15.086
<v Jeff>this week in rock beer.</v>

1837
01:27:15.086 --> 01:27:15.286
<v Jeff>Yeah.</v>

1838
01:27:16.686 --> 01:27:21.586
<v Shannon>I like the smoky, but just a little more than I want.</v>

1839
01:27:21.786 --> 01:27:28.577
<v Shannon>And then Farm Boy, that's going to have to, that's my third</v>

1840
01:27:28.577 --> 01:27:30.336
<v Shannon>from the top.</v>

1841
01:27:30.736 --> 01:27:34.521
<v Shannon>And then we're going to have to go with Burial as number</v>

1842
01:27:34.521 --> 01:27:34.836
<v Shannon>two.</v>

1843
01:27:36.372 --> 01:27:37.972
<v Jeff>Fall of the Damned Chunky</v>

1844
01:27:37.972 --> 01:27:39.055
Yeah.

1845
01:27:39.055 --> 01:27:41.222
And surprisingly,

1846
01:27:41.372 --> 01:27:44.722
<v Shannon>this woven water, killing time,</v>

1847
01:27:44.922 --> 01:27:48.722
chunky beer is boy

1848
01:27:48.722 --> 01:27:50.572
<v Shannon>my number one.</v>

1849
01:27:50.572 --> 01:27:53.472
<v Jeff>Plop plop this is A one relief it is</v>

1850
01:27:56.022 --> 01:27:56.572
Yay,

1851
01:27:56.722 --> 01:28:00.022
<v Greg>all right, well that's uh</v>

1852
01:28:02.036 --> 01:28:02.486
Oops,

1853
01:28:02.586 --> 01:28:06.668
<v Greg>I left this play, and so we're on a completely different Tasting</v>

1854
01:28:06.668 --> 01:28:09.336
<v Greg>the Sunshine song, so I'm going to switch back and go back,</v>

1855
01:28:09.386 --> 01:28:10.936
<v Greg>and now we should be better.</v>

1856
01:28:11.486 --> 01:28:14.036
Hey, back to boogie shoes.

1857
01:28:14.436 --> 01:28:15.186
Hi, guys.

1858
01:28:15.336 --> 01:28:16.836
<v Greg>Thanks for listening again.</v>

1859
01:28:17.286 --> 01:28:19.136
<v Jeff>Thanks for everything.</v>

1860
01:28:19.736 --> 01:28:22.736
<v Jeff>And if you want more, we're going to do a post show.</v>

1861
01:28:22.836 --> 01:28:26.996
<v Jeff>So go over to craftbeeradio.com and subscribe to that XML for the</v>

1862
01:28:26.996 --> 01:28:28.036
<v Jeff>post show feed.</v>

1863
01:28:29.748 --> 01:28:31.548
<v Jeff>Or it's probably an Apple podcast.</v>

1864
01:28:31.648 --> 01:28:32.488
<v Jeff>I don't know.</v>

1865
01:28:32.488 --> 01:28:33.048
<v Jeff>Who knows?</v>

1866
01:28:33.648 --> 01:28:35.898
<v Shannon>Don't forget our discord join Oh, yes.</v>

1867
01:28:35.898 --> 01:28:36.498
the discord Discord?

1868
01:28:36.498 --> 01:28:36.598
and

1869
01:28:36.598 --> 01:28:37.216
<v Jeff>Good Discord.</v>

1870
01:28:37.216 --> 01:28:40.922
<v Jeff>There'll be a link on Crafty Radio about join our discord and</v>

1871
01:28:40.922 --> 01:28:44.627
<v Jeff>there'll be an invite link that you can pop in there and</v>

1872
01:28:44.627 --> 01:28:47.098
<v Jeff>you can just troll us all you want.</v>

1873
01:28:47.198 --> 01:28:48.298
<v Jeff>I mean.</v>

1874
01:28:48.298 --> 01:28:50.198
<v Shannon>I'll turn my notifications back Like, on</v>

1875
01:28:50.198 --> 01:28:54.776
<v Greg>we're going to modify, we're going to moderate the shit out of</v>

1876
01:28:54.776 --> 01:28:55.148
<v Greg>this.</v>

1877
01:28:55.198 --> 01:28:56.798
<v Greg>So go ahead and try to troll.</v>

1878
01:28:56.948 --> 01:28:57.648
<v Greg>Just try.</v>

1879
01:28:58.484 --> 01:29:02.084
<v Greg>You'll be surprised at how quickly you'll be kicked off this guard</v>

1880
01:29:02.084 --> 01:29:05.684
<v Greg>because look all right we'll talk about this in the post show</v>

1881
01:29:05.684 --> 01:29:06.584
<v Greg>Good idea.</v>