WEBVTT 1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:09,640 one two three shoot greg glens welcome to craft beer radio episode 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:17,000 five hundred ten on five hundred eleven on august eighteenth twenty twenty 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:25,480 three i'm shannon i'm 4 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,080 jeff i was looking for a microphone to talk into i'm still 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:33,120 not used to these lavalier mics i'm great where's my mic all 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,280 right so yeah greg mentioned it in the intro there but the 7 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,560 last like three shows we said the wrong episode number at the 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,920 beginning of the thing so i just like it i just think 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,160 it should be just something that we stay with why do we 10 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:49,440 need to be pressured to be accurate right i mean so what 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,200 do you got here what are you these are more beers from 12 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,000 our trip good news for you greg this will be the last 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,960 show where i feel like we have to get the ipas while 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:00,360 they're fresh but this one is the fourth anniversary from twin barns 15 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 brewing it is a golden rye IPA so this should be something 16 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 a little bit different from the the no i poured poorly shannon 17 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,400 get much and we're going to have some so there's some too 18 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 so we're going to have to do the mixy mix dumb mixy 19 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 oh three way here oh OK so this is hop with six 20 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 point seven percent hop with new zealand grown nectaroon and rewaka hop 21 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 OK all right yeah and then the other note is that this 22 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 is a rye IPA so you know rye will typically give it 23 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 a more spicy and character to the grand maltville it's also a 24 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 hazy i know you pulled these out before it's still pretty cold 25 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 and you know warm this up a bit how has your couple 26 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 of weeks been as your fortnight no it's been busy with work 27 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 and i'm still making bowls got back to making bowls so it's 28 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 fun can make bowls while i can i have one of your 29 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 bowls and it's a great bowl yeah it's got one of the 30 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 good ones too i really like that knothole that was in that 31 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 one yeah i was making this probably like my third or fourth 32 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 bowl and i'm turning it and it still has the bark on 33 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 it i really don't know what it's going to be and there 34 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 was some you know like kind of punky wood like a branch 35 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 knothole in the side and i was thinking i was going to 36 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 once i got it cleared off i was going to glue that 37 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 in epoxy at something and then as i'm turning it the knot 38 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 flies out like hits me in the shoulder so i'm like OK 39 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 i guess i'm good you were wearing eyewear yeah yeah got a 40 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 whole face shield so punky is that the term when it's like 41 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 almost rotten OK like soft and rotten because the first thing that 42 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 came into my mind when i heard punky was anybody punky brewster 43 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 punky brewster which then i realized could that be a name for 44 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 a brewery i'm the punky brewster there you go NBC or CBS 45 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 probably still owns like the trademark probably i don't really get a 46 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 lot on the nose do you all something hobby but that's kind 47 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 of it i'm not kidding so these are what's we can root 48 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 raku right nectarine and rewaka rewaka OK yeah so rewaka is one 49 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 of those new zealand hop right so a little soft a little 50 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 bit vanilla a little bit melon you know so i am smelling 51 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 something like that on the nose not really like big old citrus 52 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 or anything like that and then in the aroma you're getting aroma 53 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 you're also getting in the malt you know you're getting a little 54 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 bit of barley a fair amount of rye yeah that's mostly what 55 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i'm getting yeah it is the malt and i'm the malt yeah 56 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 i guess there's a little like i don't know something peach like 57 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 for me it's a little bit like a candle or a honeydew 58 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 like a that that's a that's a better description yeah very mild 59 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 yes it's kind of dry has a nice christmas to it because 60 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 of the rye and the multiple i think the rye adds something 61 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to it by making it not feel just kind of puffy by 62 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 giving a little bit of a bite but it also is very 63 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 like melanie on on the first step and it it's more sweet 64 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 and then the rye kicks in yeah had this beer this was 65 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 the day that we were did the all the rainy day breweries 66 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 in new hampshire and this was that last place right by our 67 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 airbnb oh yeah yeah we got this that's a good one to 68 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 me it seems very bitter i think it's sarai 'cause i don't 69 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 feel like that it's it's bitter hop wise i don't have any 70 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 IB us or anything yeah it doesn't taste like a a resiny 71 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 like hop bitterness it's very dry right it is and there's kind 72 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 of a clang on your tongue a little bit you know like 73 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 i think that's from the rye is that what you're coming across 74 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 it's from the rye yeah it's different and i like that it's 75 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 different because i just posted in our discord by the way please 76 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 join our discord the link is on see crafter radio dot com 77 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 right on the front page towards the bottom and then in the 78 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 what are we drinking area i posted that i got what was 79 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 it not heavy topper but the other one focal banger focal banger 80 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 from The Alchemist and it was yeah fifteen wow yeah yesterday is when 81 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 i bought it and it was made two days before so like 82 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 like that's as fresh i think as i could possibly get in 83 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 pittsburgh oh for sure so and yeah it was just like it 84 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 was fine and it kind of reminded me of all the things 85 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 that this this thing was i think it's a little bit more 86 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 drinkable than heady topper yeah yeah i had one more at the 87 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 The Alchemist but i was i guess i was looking for this super 88 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 juicy super fresh i'm at you know at mecca kind of thing 89 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 i drank the sucker from the can yeah did you yeah i 90 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 i i read all the instructions i the thing is if nothing 91 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 else like i said in in in the chat there the thing 92 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 that i appreciated the most wasn't the fact that oh i get 93 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 a whale but it was this is a this place that i 94 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 shop for beer which i do is pay in something of a 95 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 premium for you know it's more expensive than it would be like 96 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it some of the other stores but they're taking care of their 97 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 beer and yeah this was right out there two days is kind 98 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 of crazy so still city beer is the importer for the The Alchemist 99 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 which i had errantly presumed OK they signed a contract but i 100 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 don't think The Alchemist has any beer to come to pittsburgh well obviously 101 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 that's wrong but it's crazy that it went from canning line through 102 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 the wholesaler to the retailer in two days when it's a fourteen 103 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 hour drive so and i'm pretty sure because i think i've talked 104 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 to people there you know they make sure that stuff arrives cold 105 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 you know it's not they don't have it let it go warming 106 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 there's obviously there are beers out there that aren't in their fridge 107 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 so it's not like they do it everything is like that but 108 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 for the for the expensive stuff the top shelf stuff they they 109 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 keep it cold and they make sure it's there so i appreciate 110 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it that much the fact that the beer wasn't that amazing it's 111 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 fine i'm willing to pay a little bit of a of an 112 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 extra thing just as a shout out to the you know as 113 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,360 a here here's my here's my present to you guys for sure 114 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 shannon and i went hiking first time in pennsylvania after our trip 115 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 and it wasn't quite the same doing hikes around western pennsylvania kind 116 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 of a let down after you've done hiking in new england yeah 117 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 yeah i i can see that although we didn't talk about it 118 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i didn't want to say that one of the things that we 119 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 didn't mention about the nice thing about living in pennsylvania and pittsburgh 120 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 in particular is so if you live there in vermont or up 121 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 there there's kind of one way in you can get stuff but 122 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 there's a narrower way to get things to there whereas we're in 123 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 a much more centralized location so it's a lot easier to get 124 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 a hold of more stuff where we are and quicker so if 125 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 nothing else we are kind of in the middle of a of 126 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 a big you know mercantile area which helps us a lot when 127 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 we want to get stuff yeah i think she's like but the 128 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 mountains yeah the hiking the yeah i'll i'd take i'd trade it 129 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 yeah i'd definitely trade it for me being outdoors in maine and 130 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 i'm like i don't want to just be on the grid i 131 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 i want to be the grid would you like yeah i'll drink 132 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 not a fan did you think it was bad or just not 133 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 super into it just not super into it i didn't think it 134 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 was bad but i i i get it you know reserve your 135 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 sobriety for stuff that you you think you're going to really love 136 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 yeah so that makes sense this is again the twin barns four 137 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 the fourth anniversary it's got a big four on it it does 138 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 all right let's let's stagger the IP as this time let's go 139 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 to a farmhouse oh good that's a good idea all right bellflower 140 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 brewing company this was one in portland that we hit up their 141 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 brewery i believe is outside no it says in portland here OK 142 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 but we were going to say they brew out we literally brew 143 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 outside no no it seems like a lot of the places in 144 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 portland have they're tap rooms and have places elsewhere seen a bunch 145 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 of that when we were doing those breweries which one is this 146 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 one bellflower this is do you remember the beer name that's what 147 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i'm asking is he's looking at it i'm sorry farmhouse farmhouse or 148 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it's called bellflower farmhouse ale oop that was me i apologize need 149 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 to turn off the error message no it is farmhouse i don't 150 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 i drank one of these last week and i got my hands 151 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 smacked save these for the show i just told you guys save 152 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 one i'm exaggerating OK so bellflower parm the peppa bellflower farmhouse six 153 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 percent and everything else is just this is what your old taste 154 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 which i'm not going to bother to read because that's not i 155 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 want to learn myself the the color i will have to say 156 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it's not as dark gold as the last one it's a much 157 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 lighter yeah it almost has like a wit beer kind of color 158 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it does it's not quite as white as a wit beer but 159 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 it has some opacity to the the cloudiness yeah yeah it's cloudiness 160 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 it's not a hazy like a hazy IPA and it's funny you 161 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 say wet and as soon as i knows it like i smell 162 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 a wit beer well you're going to smell a lot of the 163 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 similar characteristics right you're going to smell a big wheat part of 164 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 the green bills wheat in this it's common for a lot of 165 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 farmhouse sales and then the yeast likely not a wit beer yeast 166 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 but it's going to be a more rustic sazolan yeast or something 167 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 like that they're going to be in the same extended family kind 168 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 of flavor wise right and then i haven't tasted yet but you 169 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 know you might not probably doesn't have coriander and orange peel and 170 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 things like that added to it the rusticness of this comes through 171 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 because i mean i smell this and i'm imagining like an old 172 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 farmhouse fence so there's like a a dusty mustiness coming out of 173 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it i'm smelling the inside of a clean barn i'm not saying 174 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 a dirty the the wood and the the hay you know that 175 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 combination of those two i'm actually getting like a buckwheat kind of 176 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 aroma where it's like a little more otay chewy and kind of 177 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 brown smelling compared to a wheat all right otay as buckwheat would 178 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 say oh you're not saying OT like there's oats in it no 179 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 no i'm saying like eddie murphy on saturday night live when he 180 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 did buckwheat character OT we're old on to the flavour it's sweeter 181 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 than i thought it'd be the mole comes through it has kind 182 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 of like almost like a marmalade toast type flavor toast you're on 183 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 is only there but i think that i think you're in the 184 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 right like zone but i think you're that's also coming across melanie 185 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 like the lot melon E like the last beer also like there's 186 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 like almost like melon jelly or something on it did you say 187 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 marmalade yeah because i'm thinking definitely like a cracker with something on 188 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it yeah it doesn't have it doesn't really carry the orange part 189 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 that's not really what i was going for more of just the 190 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 vibe of toasty bread with some jelly on it yeah OK then 191 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 then i guess where you're in the right zone what's that flavor 192 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 though it's it's not orange well i take back what i said 193 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 i said cantaloupe but no i think it's a really faint i'm 194 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 tasting faintly tasting apricot OK OK so if you pictured an apricot 195 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 jam and you just barely put some on your toast spread it 196 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 really really really thin OK yeah i do think that's a good 197 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 call i i see that there that that's there there's something as 198 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 more like in terms of melon there's a little bit of honeydew 199 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 in there i think yeah i'm not getting like a singular fruit 200 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 here there's more of a combination there's might might be a little 201 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 bit of like lychee yeah i could i could see that or 202 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 even like dragon fruit along those lines for sure so LK ninety 203 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 nine is another thing no apparently it is a log standard ordinary 204 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 diamagnetic possibly diamagnetic metal diamagnetic metal means that it can expel it 205 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 can expel magnetic fields so you can get things to float on 206 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 and if you if you have the magnetic lined right but you're 207 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 not expending any energy by doing that by the way it it 208 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it's just sort of it it's like it's like resting something on 209 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 top of a what's a good physical analogy for this because basically 210 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it's it's resting on top of the field lines so it's not 211 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 doing any energy it's just being held yeah well i mean i 212 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 guess the closest thing to say it's like a table right the 213 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 table is holding this this glass up against gravity but it's not 214 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 doing any it's not putting any energy into the fact that it's 215 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 doing that right yeah now the paper was retracted yeah i guess 216 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 the guy 's getting the team 's getting you know investigated so 217 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i don't know what i know that one of the papers from 218 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 the guys was attracted i don't know if the LK ninety nine 219 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 paper itself was attracted but i don't think it was published by 220 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i don't think it was even published yet or wasn't published by 221 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 like a prestigious journal but physical review letters which is a very 222 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,920 prestigious journal did retract one of like the main guy 's papers 223 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 so yeah people get excited about flashes in the pan all the 224 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 time and you know i'm used to seeing it happen in my 225 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 in the field that i study in particle physics so i'm really 226 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 skeptical about anything that happens in there i'm i was of course 227 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 less skeptical about the LK ninety nine for kind of a couple 228 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 reasons one of which was it's not my field and the other 229 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,960 one was the ease of of testing it because it was relatively 230 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 according to the the stuff that was on there and the stuff 231 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 that i read it was like really easy for people to test 232 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 this thing so there wouldn't be a whole lot of time between 233 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 whether we knew this was legit or not yeah i started to 234 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 talk about this couple episodes ago but we got off track i 235 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 was watching a youtube series a youtube show about element hunting and 236 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 thus the scandals there there's you know there's like three main places 237 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 that discover all these super heavy elements you got berkeley in brookhaven 238 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 right yeah there's one berkeley berkeley there's one in germany and then 239 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 the what in russia what in russia so berkeley kind of hired 240 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 away this guy viktor ninov from the german group and long story 241 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 short this guy it just compulsive with falsifying information to to get 242 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 to the discoveries you know so berkeley had huge egg on their 243 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 face like like like because he claimed like three or four of 244 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 the you know like you know like for like one O seven 245 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 until one fourteen someone in there like that he had found it 246 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 but then they went back and looked at the data it was 247 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 all falsified that's bad because so when you're element hunting for for 248 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 those who are in the know and like for shannon i'm sure 249 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 you don't really are up on how many of this works but 250 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 you're you're throwing you're throwing someone nucleus in another hoping that there's 251 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 going to be a fusion and that you know that's going to 252 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 be an extraordinarily unstable atom and it's going to decay so you 253 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 know what what you're what's going to be left behind and you're 254 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 looking for what's going to be left behind you're familiar with the 255 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 periodic table of elements a little bit absolutely and so like right 256 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 now it goes up to like one twelve or so but everything 257 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 after one fifteen one eighteen i think one eighteen is the is 258 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the last one that was OK but everything in the hundreds i 259 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 don't know exactly where like something that's stable but they decay right 260 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 away so what these people do is they find two combinations of 261 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 elements that when they slam them together they make these big elements 262 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 or they make something the keys in through this big element kind 263 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 of thing and you're throwing not like one you're throwing like a 264 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 bajillion of these you're stripping off the electrons you're throwing up bajillion 265 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 of these nuclei at other nuclei and just hoping that one of 266 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 them or maybe two of them will hit in just the right 267 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 way because they're both positively charged there's lots of reasons why this 268 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 you know this is exacting difficult work to do and requires like 269 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 really calibrated machines really pure environments you know as pure a vacuum 270 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 as possible it's interesting because there's different recipes you can use to 271 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 try to get these big elements like einsteinium is like one of 272 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the biggest elements i think it's einsteinium that lasts long enough that 273 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 you can throw other things at it get anything bigger than einsteinium 274 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 will decay before you have enough time to throw things at it 275 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 so like they start they have einsteinium sitting there microseconds and then 276 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 they use like and then they use like cobalt or something and 277 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 they're or maybe even bigger i forget but they throw that so 278 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 like you can't use element like one O eight and throw element 279 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 one O eight at it to try to get element two hundred 280 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 sixteen or whatever because neither of them last long enough for the 281 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 experiment that happened so so let's say you're trying to get element 282 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 one twenty well you could in theory i guess try to throw 283 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 sixty at sixty right but i don't think that would work for 284 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 some reason there's there's lots of real weird nuclear physics reasons why 285 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 they pick the ones that they do but the the numbers should 286 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 add up to what you're trying to get and then you know 287 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 based on the information that the math tells you what it will 288 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 decay into and so then you what you do is you try 289 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 to measure and see if those because you you obviously once that 290 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 happens and again it falls apart in you know microseconds or or 291 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 even less it so what you're looking for is then the daughter 292 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 elements the decay of of the of that will produce the right 293 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 proportion of these other things it gives you the finger you were 294 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 there you know that kind of thing gotcha so it's a lot 295 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 of really difficult exacting work but because you know what you're expecting 296 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 if you wanted to fake it you presumably could and and there 297 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 is sort of a on some level an honor system that you're 298 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 not doing that part of what he was doing was to try 299 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 to get dibs because i think i think it was we'll get 300 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 there sooner or later and sooner is better so i want to 301 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 falsify the information in case another lab gets it we can have 302 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 dibs on discovering it and which one was this one because i 303 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 didn't know this is the berkeley lab victor nino so he he 304 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 just got you know once he was found out he strum down 305 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 to the industry so yeah because because it it's built on the 306 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 honor system that honor system is very rigorously enforced so if if 307 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 you're found of violating that then you are just out that's why 308 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 a lot of studies they try they do Dubbel blind or they 309 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 don't even get a chance to look at the information or they 310 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 code it in a way so that they only can so that 311 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 they gather all the information with their machines and it's then like 312 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 coded before they even look at it and then they later much 313 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 later when when all the experiments are done then they they decoded 314 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 and see whether they did it or not so they're so they're 315 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 not influenced by learn what have happened the craziest bias today that 316 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 that american that people have what's that they prefer letters on the 317 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 right side of the keyboard versus letters on the left side of 318 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 the keyboard really it started before nineteen ninety names that were chosen 319 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 for children use letters from both sides of the keyboard fairly equally 320 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 and after nineteen ninety skews hard to the right side of the 321 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 keyboard but that's not the only piece of evidence there are just 322 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 if you take surveys of you know do you like a or 323 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 you better you know like stuff like that like it wades out 324 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 the right side of the keyboard for right and left handed people 325 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i mean there are two good vowels on the left side of 326 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the keyboard A and E so you think that those are good 327 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 yeah you would but i'm thinking about yeah you were a type 328 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 we're we're i mean i'm just yeah i'm thinking about how much 329 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 faster i am tristan 's a left handed name tyler 's middle 330 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 and max is mostly left handed although the M 's all the 331 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 way on the right hand side victoria 's kind of mixed too 332 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 so you don't fall into the things too much i'm a lefty 333 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 i'm a lefty for sure although technically i'm i'm gregory so there 334 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 is yeah if you put it in jeffrey i'm totally in the 335 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 middle of the keyboard put in jeffrey i'm totally left sided keyboard 336 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 i mean not not a hundred percent i don't like stewardess right 337 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 or you know stewardess is all left handed longest left handed word 338 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i didn't realize it was the longest left handed word i've never 339 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 really paid attention but i'm just thinking about when i type like 340 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 which hand is more dominant and you know which one i type 341 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 faster with which side of the keyboard i'm faster on and i 342 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 guess it probably is the right and rexta is all left handed 343 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 so if you know anybody named rexta rexta i don't know the 344 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 the the so the the qwerty layout i just learned that so 345 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 i listen to radiolab and that's where they threw this nugget out 346 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 about how there's a bias this weird bias that like there's not 347 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 a good hypothesis why but in in like china where the the 348 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the story is mostly about how china was able to do the 349 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 different methods of getting all of the chinese characters into a computer 350 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 typed in through a keyboard and stuff like that but like there's 351 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 not a similar bias there but where there's qwerty keyboards are common 352 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 in like europe germany england that they all have the right letter 353 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 by right letter bias and we we read left to right so 354 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it's kind of this is doubly weird weird or the and this 355 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 also could be like a correlation is not equal to causation type 356 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 thing it'd be interest like and then like so like when the 357 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 qwerty keyboard was organized you know we've probably heard the story that 358 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 they had to mix up the letters yeah so what i understand 359 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the hammers of stories about that are BS like or at least 360 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 are challenged so here's a here's the new story that i've heard 361 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 is the word typewriter is all on the top row because typewriter 362 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 salesman couldn't really type but they wanted to demonstrate it really fast 363 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 no that's that's no i i i i believe that that is 364 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 something that's out there i don't know whether that's something that's true 365 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 that does that has that flavor of being something that people made 366 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 up after the fact yeah OK so should we move on to 367 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 something else yeah well on me another IPA and the ping pong 368 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 back and forth here this one 's the definitive brewing company stainless 369 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 oasis stainless oasis from definitive yes i believe this is another one 370 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 that i got my hand slapped for what you got to save 371 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 one of those for the show i mean you know and you 372 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 don't want to be tainted you want to like not know what 373 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 this tastes like it's coming in kind of OK this is definitive 374 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 stainless oasis i'm being more careful pouring now i got all three 375 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 glasses here and i'm just going to pour like an ounce in 376 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 each and so we all get the same strata without having to 377 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 so when you say definitive how definitive are you talking that's pretty 378 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,960 definitive i mean there's no yeah these guys are also in portland 379 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 stainless weights another hazy shock shocker it'll be the last show where 380 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 i'm trying to get these hazies out while they're still fresh sorry 381 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 it's just too much i mean i i'm jaded about it now 382 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i can't deny it when i everything is hazies and i just 383 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i look for more there's so much downstairs though that's not it's 384 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 just that we had to get these out first i know i 385 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 know i understand but no we have a ton of beer from 386 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 oxbow we're going to be doing an oxbow here next i'm wearing 387 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 the shirt is that what that shirt is yes OK say the 388 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 back OK yeah so it's got so i'm stated does that mean 389 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 yeah yeah i was not i don't know for some reason i 390 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 didn't know oxbow 's reputation oh we'll talk about that when we 391 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 drink the oxbow how could you there's so many breweries around there 392 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 how could you know everybody 's reputation i feel like there's there's 393 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 too many reasons there have to be whales anymore well it was 394 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 on our discord and i was talking about where we were and 395 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 someone said you got to go down a couple blocks to oxbow 396 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 and we were actually gonna we're gonna probably cut the night short 397 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 before we went there yeah and like no you got to go 398 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 so like be a discord listener or discard participants another reason to 399 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 join our discord and now the sticker is on my laptop the 400 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 definitive sticker i don't know about you all but that sounds funny 401 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 kids i'm describing the same thing but apricot jumps out can i 402 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 smell yours i smell mine i'm getting more like guava definitely smells 403 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 different than mine doesn't it yeah i poured it did you guys 404 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 see how it no i i'm i'm not i'm not arguing i'm 405 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 just saying that weirdly we're not getting exactly the same experience yeah 406 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 let's look i had all three glasses in a triangle and poured 407 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 it a little bit in each glass and just went around in 408 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 a circle that's crazy that we don't have the same beer guess 409 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 not as lively in the noses as the one that you had 410 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 i'm just trying to pick through it and i'm getting mostly malt 411 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 i'm getting like tropicals like subtle tropicals like guava dragon fruit actually 412 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i just went on to the flavor and and i think you 413 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 know dragon fruit 's not really that flavorful of a fruit but 414 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 i am totally tasting it in this beer kind of that like 415 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 mix between dragon fruit leaning towards pear there's a pear i i 416 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 feel grapes actually pear definitely pear now i've only had dragon fruit 417 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 like what once or twice it has another one has kind of 418 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 a melody texture to it it it it's you know it's in 419 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the it's in that ballpark of lychee and water chestnut like all 420 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 those things with subtle flavors yeah it's it's it's a lot like 421 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 tomato salt makes a difference OK i don't think i've ever had 422 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it with salt i've had watermelon with salt another one where yeah 423 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 we were watching something on youtube and threw our they suggested putting 424 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 cracked pepper on watermelon oh yeah that fucking delicious of course never 425 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 knew oh yeah no it's amazing yeah it is because pepper is 426 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 how would you describe pepper pepper is everyone 's had pepper but 427 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 like it's got so it's it's got a bit of spice to 428 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it and woodiness and it does help to it has it's got 429 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 that oiliness which then can bring in other can it can use 430 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 that aromatic oiliness to bring in other flavors and sort of elevate 431 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 them vanilla ice cream pepper is fantastic on vanilla ice cream haven't 432 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 had that but i'll never have watermelon again without pepper that's for 433 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 sure i mean when i have the opportunity to put pepper on 434 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it fresh yeah has to be fresh yeah yeah the if you 435 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 get like dried pepper in a that's that's little more than cardboard 436 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 i really like this one that is nice and drinkable there's a 437 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 hint of vanilla in there too there is that's a good call 438 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 yeah this one 's super tasty drinkable because it has the subtle 439 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 tropical flavors to it you know it's not the bitterness is low 440 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 at least the apparent bitterness is low yeah this is nice and 441 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 drinkable i really do enjoy this one for an IPA right for 442 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,000 an IPA for new england IPA this is the definitive stainless oasis 443 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 so you you put in the notes this new horizons thing do 444 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 you want to talk about that yeah listener of the show at 445 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 least former listener i should probably tell him we're doing it again 446 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 because he hasn't commented and and he was a huge fan of 447 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the show john daigle the guy we met down at aslan yeah 448 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 yeah in DC that on the way back from the beach one 449 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 time he sent an email i was BCC don't i don't know 450 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 if you got it but i think he works for one of 451 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 the organizations that putting on this petition it's it's about extending or 452 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 NASA has decided to cut the budget for the extended mission of 453 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 new horizons which is the space probe that flew past pluto in 454 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 twenty nineteen and also that flew past one of the kuiper belt 455 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 objects yeah contact binary i forget what it was called but it 456 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 it was it looked kind of like gold snowman it was a 457 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 native american name for sky i forget which which tribe but so 458 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 they decided to they're going to hibernate the machine but they're going 459 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 to contract out or let the contract run out for the team 460 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 the science team and then replace it with a heliocentric science team 461 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 and it's said that you know OK new horizons could be reactivated 462 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 but it'll be doing heliocentric science and not like voyager and not 463 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 key KBO science you know kuiper belt object science then he wants 464 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 petitions signed i was just i like i don't know like i 465 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 was hoping for like a strong case of why science is better 466 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 for the KBO study i i kind of wonder if it was 467 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 you know like his company is you know APR type thing for 468 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 the the current science team or something you know i'm not sure 469 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 what's your feeling on it i mean a machine probe where all 470 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 the instruments are still working and there's fuel it seems a shame 471 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 to not use it i don't i don't have a good idea 472 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 on which brand of science is better i don't know well i 473 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 was wondering what you think like how what do you think about 474 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 well so while planetary science and cosmology is not the field that 475 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 i put a lot of effort into studying it is a field 476 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 that i'm very interested in and i and i consider myself beyond 477 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 a layman in it and i love love planetary exploration robotic planetary 478 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 i'm i'm a huge fan i have a chart on my wall 479 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 of planetary exploration from from things and i think new horizons are 480 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 fantastic spacecraft and really cool stuff and this this petition when you 481 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 sent it to me and i read it i was embarrassed OK 482 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 and i felt it was shameless let me read what it says 483 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 here OK i with budget constraints NASA has decided to cut funding 484 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 for new horizons and cease its kuiper belt exploration starting october first 485 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 twenty twenty four fiscal year twenty twenty five NASA also intends to 486 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 recompete the new horizon science team if early september replacing them with 487 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 a lower cost heliophysics team after the global accolades is that fair 488 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 funding for the spacecraft may not be restored at some point after 489 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 fiscal year may be restored at some point after fiscal twenty twenty 490 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 five but as a heliophysics vision mission not explain the kuiper belt 491 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 unless this is reversed the kuiper belt mission would be ended prematurely 492 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 to save single digit millions of dollars even though the team believes 493 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 they are important scientific investigations to complete every belt represents the vast 494 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 majority of solar just a mass to sustain a future space training 495 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 civilization and take humanity for the stars that last sentence is just 496 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 fucking bullshit the kuiper belt is gigantic it's this gigantic area in 497 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 terms of space because it's it's beyond neptune and you know it's 498 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 tilted with respect to to the incline the solar system and it's 499 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 and it's huge but it's also got like nothing in it it's 500 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 basically empty i mean they kind of got pretty lucky to do 501 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 that second fly do the second fly they they had no idea 502 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 that that thing was out there when they launched you know they 503 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 found that with hubble a couple years before the fly by but 504 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 there has been a consistent effort to find something else for this 505 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 to go to and nothing has been found because there's nothing there 506 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 and there is certainly not enough fuel on the craft to to 507 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,920 get anywhere close to anything that we know about and a helio 508 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 physics mission seems like a really good use for the spacecraft now 509 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 that it's at the point where there's nothing really it can reach 510 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 i mean that's what i was looking for i didn't know i 511 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 mean this obviously is one side of the story like what you 512 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 just read it's very agenda well the the the thing that really 513 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 embarrassed me was after the global accolades is that fair now just 514 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 like what the fuck does that mean is that fair is life 515 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 fair is that fair the god global accolades for the science is 516 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 doing and now it can transition into doing a science that it's 517 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 in the position to do some good science for what i i 518 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 now i i understand the angle that look you know it's hard 519 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 out there for a postdoc if these kuiper belt guys want to 520 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 have a job but that's not what really what this is saying 521 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 this is trying to appeal on a much broader basis of of 522 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 of like the last thing about how this is the mass to 523 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 sustain future space bearing civilization there won't be space bearing civilization that's 524 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 nonsense take humanity to the stars humanity is not going anywhere we 525 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 got one planet that's it dumb buzzkill mister star trek saying that 526 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 what the hell man i think this is this is entirely the 527 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 right decision and i feel like if you want to send something 528 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 else to the kyber belt i'm all for it right let's send 529 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 more crafts to the kyber belt to explore but make this thing 530 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 into a heliophysics thing because yeah we could use more heliophysics probes 531 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 there's more science to be done there this thing is on a 532 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 hyperbolic trajectory it's going outside of the solar system not as fast 533 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 as voyager is but it still will will hit those same things 534 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it's better to have a multiple data points than just one it's 535 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 got more advanced tech on it when i was after i saw 536 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 this i'm like OK i want to know like what's the what's 537 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the A side science and the B side science i didn't get 538 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 i did get i got distracted didn't find that answer but i 539 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 found NASA has this really cool visualization where you can orbit around 540 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the solar system it shows you where all the probes are and 541 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 how pioneer tens like zipping off that way and i think we 542 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 should make use of new horizons while we have it in the 543 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,040 best way possible and i do think that is definitely a heliophysics 544 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 mission so sorry john i'm i'm not buying it what's next next 545 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 is beard beer de coupage OK i'm going to have a to 546 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to look at the label there to from shilling beer company i 547 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 did think it was B I E R E so i was 548 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 right there beer de coupage they are de coupage first shows up 549 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 in the french we were doing the rainy day beers in new 550 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 hampshire OK that was that place place where we sat at that 551 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 little sidebar had the pizza i think or down by the river 552 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 was busy at the bar where is it the sidebar that little 553 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 counter yeah where we were staring at the boats in the marina 554 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 no no is that we had a oyster there in new hampshire 555 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 on the road oh in new i'm sorry new hampshire on a 556 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 rainy day so what is The The Bruery here 'cause there are lots 557 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 of beer to coupons shilling beer company shilling shilling shilling SCH yeah 558 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 OK so looking at the first thing that came up was actually 559 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 funk factory brewing where where they say beer de capage is a 560 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 phrase that first shows up in french brewing tax from eighteen hundreds 561 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 and is used to describe the process of blending old and young 562 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 beer together i believe it says here a blend of young cezanne 563 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 and two years spontaneous interesting OK so the google for beer de 564 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 capage don't shake it up too much i'm just trying to look 565 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 at the label oh stop tilting it oh gosh we don't want 566 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 the yeast oh that's got nice aroma to it OK five point 567 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 five percent alcohol volume a wild yeast is obviously being used in 568 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 this one don't tilt that dude sorry i'm looking i'm reading it 569 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 this was brewed march twenty twenty three you just want to stir 570 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 up all the funk in the bottom i want this big funk 571 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 yeah a blend of a young saison and a two year age 572 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 spontaneous beer what is this the among loose suck room i don't 573 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 know you got to google too many O 's in that word 574 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 spell that out for me A M M O N O O 575 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 S U C OK so it's a river in new hampshire yeah 576 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 the one that this brewery was on yeah see that's The The Bruery 577 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 right there that's what we were right there you recognize that if 578 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 this bottle was sitting down there on the shelf with the wine 579 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 and everything else i would think that was a bottle of wine 580 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 that that bit label pipe right i mean this is not a 581 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 pipe in other words this is not the pre this is the 582 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 picture of it like you've even seen the picture where's the pipe 583 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 and it says under under it in french this is not a 584 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 pipe no yeah yeah this smells really this this picture yeah yeah 585 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 all right actually i i i always wanted to get this and 586 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i should i keep forgetting to but this wasn't something i want 587 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 to hang up on my on my wall because i like the 588 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the artistic expression of the idea which is don't mistake the bat 589 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 for the place while this is a picture of a pipe this 590 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 is not a pipe so you weren't there OK mister pedantic that's 591 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 it i'm going to get some more ipas so we're going to 592 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 drink all ipas so the room on this one what have we 593 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 got going on there it's kind of like a granity there's did 594 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 you say granite yeah like kind of like a granite of stone 595 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 dust yeah yeah like a stone dust there's a little bit of 596 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 like washed rind cheese aroma like gloomy rind speaking of which greg 597 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 i got some jasper hill cheese that i brought back and i 598 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 forgot the last time so i get a post show we'll be 599 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 bringing out having some cheese cheese actually we'll go really good with 600 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 this let me i say bring it out so i think that 601 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 wash rind cheese is a really good call especially rind cheese and 602 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 is maybe one that has like that's been soaked in in wine 603 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 or something like that isn't that what that is well you can 604 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 get like salt wash rind when i'm getting those notes but there's 605 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 there's something else because there's that that tartness and that sharpness definitely 606 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i mean it it could easily mistake it for a sour like 607 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 a a really sour just without tasting it i mean i haven't 608 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 tasted no me neither but but for sure there's there's definitely like 609 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 there's there's lactobacillus in there there is you know some spontaneously fermented 610 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 so there's lots of of good stuff in there there's acetobacter which 611 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 is what makes like acetic acid like a vinegar yeah that's what 612 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 it's reminding me of what's that his kombucha his kombucha sure that's 613 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 the familiar smell there's also kind of a sourdough thing in there 614 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 right and i'm going to be sad OK there's a breadiness under 615 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 there yeah the yeasty OK there's definitely like a sourdough bread a 616 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 really sourdough with a lot of flour you know how sometimes you 617 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 get a loaf of bread that has that excessive amount of flour 618 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 fresh from the bakery and you hope that flour has been cooked 619 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 so it doesn't just taste like just raw flour yeah OK well 620 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 i'm going to i'm diving in yeah right yeah so it's not 621 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 ridiculously sour there's sour notes there yeah that's just but it's not 622 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 like oh my god this is like puckering me up sour no 623 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the sour is is just i mean this is blended right so 624 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 there's clearly i bet the what it was blended into was really 625 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 sour but then there's a cezanne in here that lightens that up 626 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 and gives it more of a a balance a balance and and 627 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 that sort of dusty note that cezanne 's can give along with 628 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 a little bit of a floral note like this dandelion coming out 629 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 to me yeah especially near the end maybe like escarole or something 630 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 something with like a bitter green not as too shabby i think 631 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 this would i'm definitely looking forward to the cheese that jeff is 632 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 cutting because i think this would go really well with the cheese 633 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 all right so i'm going to tell you the names of the 634 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 cheeses take or open up tabs or whatever opening up tabs you're 635 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 welcome jasper hill jasper hill one is harbison H A R B 636 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 I S O N tell repeat that again please harbison yep spell 637 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 it please H A R H I S O N B I 638 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 as in boy yeah harbison harbison gotcha right the second one is 639 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 oma oma oma oh my god and the third one 's willoughby 640 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 willoughby that reminds me of a oh that's a nice little there's 641 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 a could take a picture that's for our discord there's a song 642 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 it's reminding me of here let me get some of the videos 643 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 in the background your ticket OK i'll take another one that's fine 644 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 so we have it i hope that the AI is taking care 645 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 of all the weird sounds that are coming out of us all 646 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 right with crunchy crunch crunch OK all right so before we have 647 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 any of the cheeses jeff give a taste of this beer yeah 648 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 all right lavalier reattached the beer de coupage beer de coupage yeah 649 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 that's awesome it it it's really well blended yeah because you can 650 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 tell it's a big sour in there that's being blended out with 651 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the saison to to even it out and to to make it 652 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 less although i'd love to try i mean like i i bet 653 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 the the sour is kind of like a a K M F 654 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 the encounter of mother funk type craziness yeah now it has it 655 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 has kind of that mineraliness and the sour kind of a lactic 656 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 sour from the sour and then the saison i think it's providing 657 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 a little bit of more body and getting a little bit of 658 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 lemoniness from it yeah i think that's it right so this one 659 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 is oma this one 's willoughby that is harvison so the yeah 660 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 so that the one that is the the least gooey hit the 661 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 hardest of them which is not particularly hard is the ola this 662 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,920 is a organic pasteurized cow milk cheese with a rush rind tomei 663 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 in the cow like tommy arthur i guess i don't know what 664 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 tommy means i don't know the cows are from von trapp oh 665 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 The The Bruery the vulgar brewery so not only do they brew they 666 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 also brew cows breed brew and breed they brew and breed i 667 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 don't know about this i'm not into soft cheeses soft cheeses all 668 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 that much you're missing out just a texture i have a problem 669 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 with can't do it can't do it i mean you're allowed more 670 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 for us yeah so jasper hill is in the same area of 671 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 vermont as where hill farmstead is they don't have tours or anything 672 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 like that they've been awesome about a cheese making tour put a 673 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 turtle on it and i found out about it when i was 674 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 looking at the hill farmstead website they're like you know things to 675 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 do nearby and they're like jasper hill doesn't have things but if 676 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 you go to the general store in town they carry the cheeses 677 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 there so after we went to hill farmstead we stopped at the 678 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 general store got the cheeses got some coffee anything else i don't 679 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 remember so the tamay is savay i'm sure i'm nailing that pronunciation 680 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 is it's a natural rind lumpy and brown the textures they have 681 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 crushed velvet it's got a little bit of crunch to it i 682 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 figured that was just salt crystals for me and give it the 683 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 crunch it also has it changes the flavor because it is as 684 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 a real earthiness to the rest of it watch it again this 685 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 was a this last one is actually wrapped in birch so but 686 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 this is OK cheese kraft cheese radio very nutty like like deep 687 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 nut like like bigger than walnut like something really nutty i think 688 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 walnuts run like i'm not sure what bigger nut is i think 689 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 of a brazil nut but they don't really carry much flavor i 690 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 think no i mean like deeper nutty flavors you know on top 691 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 of that i mean i'm it's a tangy it's cow 's milk 692 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 cheese right so there's a a bit of a grassy flavor to 693 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 it big tang to it when you bring the rind in you 694 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 get more you get more crusty flavors a little bit like a 695 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 focaccia so how's it mixing with this villade goubage be honest not 696 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 great i think they're they're kind of playing against each other as 697 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 opposed to marrying i do get some more multi flavors from this 698 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 yes the fatty the fattiness of the cheese is taking away from 699 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 the the acidity so the multi your flavors of this will come 700 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 out more yeah so we have this beer too so we can 701 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 save some cheese to compare with this one which is another blend 702 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 of twenty nineteen twenty twenty spontaneous fermented farmhouse sales we're just going 703 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to go from runnier cheese to runnier cheese and i love it 704 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i'm a big fan like this to me is heaven so yeah 705 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 so you probably know this i don't know if you know this 706 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 but this cheese might just be runnier because it's has more age 707 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 on it a lot of these cheeses will start out more firm 708 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 and then as they i mean based on based on what i'm 709 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 seeing here no like the harvesting is going to be running like 710 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 that and the willoughby is less runny but more runny than the 711 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 oma the oma doesn't have a eat by date the willoughby says 712 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 enjoy by thirtieth of september i mean i mean it's a long 713 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it's a long lifetime you know like it's not a couple weeks 714 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 it's and then harvesting is enjoyed by the sixteenth of september i 715 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 mean it's soured enough what are you going to what are you 716 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 going to do make it more soured like i mean i mean 717 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 you can you can get a mold on it right but it's 718 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it's it's like when does yogurt go bad right i mean it's 719 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 how how can you i i don't think that the i think 720 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i know that the FDA requires dates on those but i don't 721 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 think those dates really tell a whole story if the thing is 722 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 covered with fuzz throw it out but if it's not smells like 723 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 a dead body throw it out there are some cheeses that will 724 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 throw like a dead body yogurt actually yeah i had a situation 725 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 did you see adam ragusey about mold no i don't think so 726 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 the TLDR is that there's more health effects like for things like 727 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 bread where the mycelia can like hard cheeses are different you can 728 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 cut the mold off and keep the rest but like bread if 729 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 any of it's moldy you shouldn't eat it because the mycelia will 730 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 be spread out through it there's in a western diet it's probably 731 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 not as important because you'll be getting a variety of molds if 732 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 you eat moldy stuff but like in other diets where like rice 733 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 mold is a thing and you kind of have this monoculture mold 734 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 it actually has real health problems to it stuff it's a good 735 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 thing i throw bread away as soon as i see i do 736 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 remember reading on it or hearing somewhere it did i i would 737 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 have said no before i saw this and i'm like OK now 738 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i have more information i'm able to change my opinion so i 739 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 do remember reading somewhere i don't know how true it is that 740 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 there are no known bread and molds that are harmful to humans 741 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 like that that that are poisonous to humans that's that does not 742 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 mean that they won't taste bad or perhaps give you indigestion or 743 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 bad things like that but they won't like kill you but another 744 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 thing that you know LSD comes from bread mold so some types 745 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 of LSD like it's a rye mold i would say you know 746 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 try to find that episode of ragusea and see what he says 747 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 about it and kind of you know i bet to your base 748 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 of knowledge on what's safety and what's not because i was of 749 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 the camp of cut off the gross part eat the rest yeah 750 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 and if you're only eating some mycelia occasionally it's probably still OK 751 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 but there has been studies that show that moldy food has health 752 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 complications oh my i i get it because right what you see 753 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 is the fruiting body the mold in general right not not the 754 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 not the moldy stuff not not the not the actual mold itself 755 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 which is like you said the network of mycelia so like inbred 756 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 you the whole thing could be colonized and you take off a 757 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 couple pieces and you're still eating mold so more nutrition man fungus 758 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 is just a part of that's what i would have thought until 759 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 i saw this so just just watch it i just ate some 760 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 some moldy bread all right let's go back to IPA bill all 761 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 right this is the last brewery we stopped at on our trip 762 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 we stopped at auburn new york right on the top of one 763 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 of the finger lakes this is prison city brewing company and this 764 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 is mass riot is is this is this a place called prison 765 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 city yeah well there's there's called prison city i guess auburn is 766 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 there's a prison or something in auburn i i hear there's trouble 767 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 right here in prison city with a capital T and that rhymes 768 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 with P and this stands with prison i'm not sure what you're 769 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 quoting music man music man my friend oh OK you said this 770 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 is mass riot when you drank last night i believe so i 771 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 assume that all of their things are sort of or not or 772 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 some of at least some of their beers are prison some of 773 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 them yeah like like their flagship ipas and stuff prison city i 774 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 first made it on my radar this is actually the second time 775 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 i've been there when i went out with the ex to omagang 776 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 and whatnot these guys had won something prestigious i don't know if 777 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it was like a silver for IPA at gabf or world beer 778 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 cup or something but like brand new brewery won a thing went 779 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 up there this is a nice brewery but they didn't have the 780 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 beer that was maybe it was one of those who's the who's 781 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 the big webzine that writes like the fifty best ipas isn't thrillist 782 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 it but it was like something paste maybe it was paste yeah 783 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 yeah yeah but maybe that's what they were on like they came 784 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 in like number two in like the pace competition and so i 785 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 went up there didn't have it and then we were driving home 786 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 on a monday and things aren't open breweries aren't open on mondays 787 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 but this place was we had there was a good lunch bartender 788 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 was awesome you're closing your eyes to a situation you do not 789 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 wish to fred right here i say trouble right indicated by the 790 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 presence of a pool table in your community we have to critique 791 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 this you got trouble my friend right here i say trouble right 792 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 here in river city why sure i'm a billiard player certainly mighty 793 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 proud to say i'm always mighty proud to say a three rail 794 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 billiard shot pocket and i call it beer from a bottle and 795 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 listening to something out and i call that sloth the free maturity 796 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to score in a box shove a ball in a pocket now 797 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 friends let me tell you what i mean pockets and mark between 798 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 a gentleman and a and all week long you could be fritter 799 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 in a way i say you're young man'll be fritter noon time 800 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 time too get the ball and the dandelions countdown top forty with 801 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 bob kingsley that was my that was my T like my childhood 802 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 road trip hell yours was musicals right musicals and oldies lots and 803 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 lots of oldies god and the thing is i hate oldies and 804 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 i hated musicals at the time now i kind of love musicals 805 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 especially clever ones but the oldies are just the worst i can't 806 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 stand them these like because it's just and and my parents would 807 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 listen to the beatles but they would listen to all the old 808 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 beatles love love me do right i want to hold your hand 809 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 my mom was the same way she listened to the pittsburgh oldies 810 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 station and i always wondered i have an answer to this now 811 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 but i always wondered why don't bands why aren't there bands that 812 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 make new oldies you know like that version of music either motown 813 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 or well there no there are bands that do that but they're 814 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 not popular but they're not the tour and stuff that's the thing 815 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 oldies and now that i am old and i see all the 816 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 bands when i was like a young teenager doing like guns and 817 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 roses coming to pittsburgh here in a little bit right i have 818 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 no interest in nineteen ninety one i wanted to go to their 819 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 usual illusion concert tour so bad my mom wouldn't let me and 820 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i was so mad at her and now they're coming and i 821 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 could go and like i don't want to see axel rose and 822 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 sixty years old bruce springsteen 's coming too i'd probably so good 823 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 springsteen 's great y'all can go together have fun i'll find out 824 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 but i'll take a little bit of that bruce springsteen 's i'd 825 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 be happy to listen to some bruce springsteen 's songs i wouldn't 826 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 say like i'm not like i wouldn't be there for a concert 827 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 but i'm not a concert guy anyway so i wouldn't even work 828 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 at that concert yeah i have no interest in going to see 829 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i can't stand guns and roses i mean we went to see 830 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 metallica last year about you know we got to go get the 831 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 you know in a luxury box and whatnot you know the tickets 832 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 are complimentary but well and we saw greta van fleet that was 833 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 i was really excited to see greta van fleet who there nope 834 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 they're a nubian they have this very led zeppelin sound they actually 835 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 get criticism for like mimicking led zeppelin too much you know that 836 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 kind of thing so i really like their album stuff like criticizing 837 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 a a a sitcom for mimicking cheers right it's like you mimic 838 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 what works yeah so i love listening to album and you know 839 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 spotify of grand a van fleet they open for metallica at PNC 840 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 park and i don't know if it was it just wasn't good 841 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 like i don't know it was because we were in the luxury 842 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 box and the sound wasn't getting to us right or if the 843 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 sound was wrong or if they're just not good live i don't 844 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 know but it was not good well that can happen it's disappointing 845 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 but the concert was good anyway i mean it was fun to 846 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 see metallica metallica metallica metallica the thing was there was a whole 847 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 song when they play you know do you know metallica much i 848 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i know enough i don't know one of course yeah yeah yeah 849 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 yeah the song one was a music video they weren't on stage 850 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 for three quarters of the song it reminds me of i remember 851 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i i was at i was i was watching with damien like 852 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 ten fifteen years ago we were watching eminem did like a H 853 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 B O thing it was like one of his concerts and he 854 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 would come out and do like two verses and then there 'd 855 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 be a little thing and then they go and i was like 856 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 this is like eminem the stage play not an eminem concert it 857 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 was real weird and i was like i don't know if i 858 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 went to a concert if i'd want to see that i think 859 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 that i'd want to just see the songs being performed not like 860 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 not a not a version of it yeah that i i do 861 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 think that metallica brings it at a much heavier level than guns 862 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 and roses does today so sure metallica 's still together and guns 863 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 and roses put together for this tour i guess i mean OK 864 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 slash and axel are back to i'm not sure if izzy or 865 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 duff or whoever else speaking of tours we really missed out on 866 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 a concert when we were in vermont we just sat on a 867 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 couple consoles we could have seen cake and we decided not to 868 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 yeah but i think you didn't miss anything i feel like that's 869 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 one of those bands that like i think there are a lot 870 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 of bands for the nineties where like the songs are OK but 871 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 do you really like do you really need to go back and 872 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 or watch blind melon in concert well i like cake i barely 873 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 like blind melon i like cake a lot so we were at 874 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 bissell brothers brewing in portland and it's right next to this concert 875 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 venue and when we drive in there's already the people for directing 876 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 cars to the concert and like the concert is it and it's 877 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 like it's cake but the tickets would have been like aftermarket tickets 878 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 so they were paying like eighty five bucks a piece you know 879 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 for lawn seats kind of thing and we were spending so much 880 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 money on the trip and we're like you know we don't need 881 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 the nah we'll buy more beer we don't need to work a 882 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 concert into it i would like to see reddit but lady gaga 883 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 with the opener being the goo goo dolls i just think that 884 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 goo goo gaga is gaga would be a very cool no but 885 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 the concert that i'm talking about was the one that was going 886 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 on in vermont her new favorite my musical soulmate is noah khan 887 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 so he's this new up and coming artist he's kind of folksy 888 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 kind of like the lumineers he's not up and coming i mean 889 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 he's he's hit it he's so he's just peaked OK but he 890 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 recently was an up and comer and we were at we were 891 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 in burlington at some of the coat yeah we were at foam 892 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 brewers had a beer from them last year which interestingly enough he 893 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 did a collab a collab with them and they released the beer 894 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 two days prior and sold out just before we got there that 895 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 day but we didn't know that anyway he he's from burlington well 896 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 he's from a small town just outside of burlington yeah you can 897 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 tell the story no no no i i just didn't want he 898 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 did he did three sold out nights at the amphitheater we looked 899 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 to see she she wasn't in love with the guy at the 900 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 time knew the name we looked to see how much i knew 901 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 i knew some of the songs home now he's a hall pass 902 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 yeah tickets though on stubhub were stupid like twelve hundred dollars like 903 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 basically like i would do it too like if some idiot wants 904 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 to pay twelve hundred dollars for my tickets they can have them 905 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 you know it was kind of the things that were for sale 906 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 you know but it it was really interesting so that night we 907 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 decided to walk down to lake champlain and watch the sunset and 908 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 we parked at this little park right you know half a block 909 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 from the from the lake and get out of the car and 910 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 we could hear the concert from across the lake and concert yeah 911 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 down the bay it was like down the bay and i could 912 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 hear him clear as day but i didn't know what song it 913 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 was that he was singing and after we got back from our 914 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 trip i was playing some of his music and the song northern 915 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 attitude came on and instantly i was like that's the song that 916 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 we heard as clear as day when we were walking over to 917 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 watch the sunset of course once we got to the lake the 918 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 water was crashing and and you know you couldn't really hear it 919 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 it was very distorted but but now you have that song to 920 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 associate you with that memories that's really oh yeah and i mean 921 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 all of his music is written about his life there living in 922 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 in new england states and oh my god the red sox long 923 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 so he's he's my new he's my music soul mate jeff says 924 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 well i mean my musical song your your spotify rewind was going 925 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to be all lumineers now it's going to be lumineers and no 926 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it's going to be a good combination of the two yes and 927 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 we did we have tickets to see lumineers before covid no OK 928 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 just before covid he was touring with the lumineers and their their 929 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 tour was cancelled when the pandemic hit so those two were actually 930 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 together so it makes sense why i like both bands so much 931 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 you know but we haven't talked about the mass riot at all 932 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 and it's almost gone so but you're drinking it already it's been 933 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 like twenty minutes got me talking it's got a little lemongrassy thing 934 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 going on there it's very soft very round in the flavor it 935 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 has a mix of kind of soft melanie tropical guava really drinkable 936 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 one yeah nice and drinkable the the artist that i kind of 937 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 recently fell in love with even though she's not new but she's 938 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 new you know to me courtney barnett is is really great i 939 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 have a little bit of rotation yeah this guy when we went 940 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 to see the sunset you'd probably appreciate this when we went to 941 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 see the sunset in burlington at the park there was the burlington 942 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 earth clock and it was stone monoliths kind of like stonehenge so 943 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 they had stones it was a combination of sundial and seasonal thing 944 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 right so it had stones for compass points north southeast and west 945 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 headstones for the summer solstice and the winter solstice and the equinox 946 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 our guest the equinox is east or west in this case because 947 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 it was on the sunset side and then it had sundial markers 948 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 or if you stood in the middle based on the month where 949 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 your shadow went to tell you what time it was it was 950 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 really cool that's neat so we were going there for sunset and 951 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 we were supposed to have like twenty minutes or so to spare 952 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 but there was clouds shadow was showing me pictures there was clouds 953 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 on the horizon which was dense and basically that was the horizon 954 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 at that point so we were like twenty minutes short so like 955 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it's it's starting to like set behind the clouds and like i'm 956 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 running to this to this clock so i get a picture of 957 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 it between the rocks and i got like one picture before it 958 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 dipped below the clouds oh well it was a cool picture it's 959 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 still a cool picture but if the sky was didn't have clouds 960 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 out on the horizon you know i would have had another fifteen 961 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 minutes to take lots of pictures and get the perfect sunset thing 962 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 but got one shot of a decent better than decent sunset at 963 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 the burlington earth clock the burlington earth clock all right what's next 964 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 mass riot was decent but kind of unremarkable good drinker though yes 965 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 it's one of those beers where if you're having it on the 966 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 couch watching TV or really shooting this shit really good beer yeah 967 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 it's it's hard to be poetic about this beer i even had 968 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 a we both had a taste of cheese i had a taste 969 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 of the willoughby there which is wash rind pillow milk and it 970 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 kind of tasted very very similar to the oma and a very 971 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 similar doesn't have that crunchy salt part and it's a little runnier 972 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 but yeah it is similar all right let's do the oxbow this 973 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 will be the first thought we bought a ton of oxbow so 974 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 this won't be and they're all soury things but it won't be 975 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 the last oxbow that you have greg what's the name of the 976 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 beer this is native wild and there's probably more of those this 977 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 is the twenty nineteen twenty twenty version do you want the last 978 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 slip of that yeah native slash wild sure that's what it's that's 979 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 how it is i'm sorry native wild it's how it's presented on 980 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the website native slash wild this is weird there's beer on top 981 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 of the cork so oh that's not there's a cat rate sign 982 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 there's a cat i should probably pour that beer out yes definitely 983 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 there's a spelled bucket right it was just like a couple of 984 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,880 drips of beer but probably best oh the cork is so soft 985 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 and supple it was upside down for a long time so this 986 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 is a spontaneously fermented parmesan brew with main grains aged tops and 987 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 well water well well water well there was a well there's a 988 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 nice there's a real pop yeah look at that that's so weird 989 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 portland i wonder if they put water there just to make to 990 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 give i wonder if they yeah i wonder if they put something 991 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 on top of the cork when they tap it just to give 992 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it that that that extra i bet they do oxygen the extra 993 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 thing to make so we have to open a second ox boat 994 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 tonight you find out so this is this is barrel aged it's 995 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 barrel fermented and spontaneous six percent outgo by volume native micro flora 996 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 and wild east inoculate the cooling work overnight in a traditional cool 997 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 ship at our rural farmhouse brewery well shucks this this is something 998 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 that i'm really really excited about oh yeah i love a farmhouse 999 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 good love a good farmhouse nice green bottle this is actually as 1000 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 you said the twenty nineteen twenty twenty blend it was bottled january 1001 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 twenty twenty one and the production time to say has this effervescent 1002 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 you know when you smell like a soda like a lemon soda 1003 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 how like the the carbonation burns your nose i get some of 1004 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 that on this where i get that kind of that lemon effervescence 1005 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 was a deep molassesy thing leather leather leather yeah lemon i definitely 1006 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 the the you're right lemon have a essence there's a forest floor 1007 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 or something like that or like cattails yeah something earthy something a 1008 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 little dirty little mushroomy root beer i think it's the leather that's 1009 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 you smell really coming i mean i get the leather point but 1010 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 i also think there's there's other things there too yeah there's a 1011 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 hundred things oh definitely definitely but just add it to the pile 1012 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 do do you smell like root beer no i'm trying so root 1013 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 beer is what is that sassafras yeah like sassafras mostly and i 1014 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 feel like there's a bit of that there yeah name what do 1015 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 i smell what do you smell have you ever bought a pull 1016 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 raft that was in a box and opened up the box that's 1017 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 usually a bad bad thing for well that's what i'm smelling yeah 1018 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 i'm not smelling we've used that descriptor before but never in a 1019 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 good way yeah usually that kind of aroma the plasticky thing can 1020 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 i spell yours yeah so am i let's blend there there's a 1021 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 there's a bit of newness there right so i i see where 1022 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 you're getting that from on that but i it's not strong but 1023 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it's there but i i don't think it's strong so i don't 1024 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 think it's a problem but yeah if he if he gets on 1025 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 this rubbery band AD that's normally a very bad sign no we've 1026 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 totally had the changing it we've totally had full raft before and 1027 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 so you're not wrong when you smell it but hopefully no last 1028 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 time last time we blended out a bad flavor we ruined everyone 1029 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 's beer so that changed but there is you know more beer 1030 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 here left so but still it's here's OK since we're doing this 1031 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 so am i and look for root beer oh yeah it's stronger 1032 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 on yours it's about jeff 's it's not fair why is everyone 1033 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 's beard different it's not fair OK see i love those root 1034 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 beer barrel candies and i have a package of them upstairs at 1035 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 my desk and i literally ate two of them today but that's 1036 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 like a tandy yeah but it's still that root i mean i 1037 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 love root beer i like root beer beer i love root beer 1038 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 anything i cannot pull i don't know where i think when we 1039 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 when we say root beer we're thinking more sassafras sassafras pea or 1040 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 something like that so i went on any orange blossom now OK 1041 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 flavor be ready it's an acidic one it's tangy it's tart it's 1042 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 big oh it makes you pucker it makes every part of your 1043 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 body pucker it has kind of that the stoniness that mineraliness it 1044 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 has a lot of us sitting at that limit it's got the 1045 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 thing where it it it hits the edge of your tongue it 1046 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 makes you feel almost thirsty it has it has it has the 1047 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 horse reins you know dried out leather in a barn with some 1048 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 yeast on it it has this is where i think the cheese 1049 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 would be great because it will cut the acidity away and it'll 1050 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 be able to taste more do you want to try the willoughby 1051 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 no no no that cheese is way too soft and runny for 1052 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 me it's still a sith it's still acidic through all that it's 1053 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 really it's cutting the cheese away it does it washes that fat 1054 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 the creaminess juice is almost like can't stand up to it now 1055 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 i actually really like this but it's it's a lot the the 1056 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 if anybody gets it just be prepared because that first sip is 1057 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 going to knock you it's close to like a hoosa my very 1058 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 first sip was kind of sweet tarts yeah which kind of like 1059 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 but i so people who know like my my flavor wheel that 1060 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i use i usually save sweet tarts for flanders reds and things 1061 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 like that my first sip for this one i'm not maintaining it 1062 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 i'm just kind of giving you the progression of flavors i did 1063 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 taste kind of like lemon sweet tarts and then that second sip 1064 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 is where i got the delicious stone dust leather rustic you know 1065 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 dried wood there's a lot of complexity on here even though it's 1066 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 very acidic there's a lot of brightness here there's strawberry like a 1067 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 really tart strawberry OK yeah definitely oxbow so yeah wasn't going to 1068 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,920 go to oxbow was top posting that we were at bellflower and 1069 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 there was this place we went to greg called we didn't bring 1070 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 anything home from them but it was called i think it's called 1071 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 fermentata or they fermentata they mostly didn't do beer they did kombucha 1072 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 kaiju it was fantastic what else did they have god i can't 1073 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 even remember all these but basically all the all the the fermentation 1074 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 stuff that is not beer they did it was wild really good 1075 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 place we're trying to pull flavors out of here i think there's 1076 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 some ginger in here i can kind of see where if you 1077 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 think of like lemon ginger kombucha yes this lines up with that 1078 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 right so like you're on it's almost well greg 's on to 1079 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 something or you're on to me it's not gingery but it's like 1080 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 in the mood of lemon ginger kombucha or is it just apple 1081 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,880 cider vinegar no no it's way more no i'm not saying just 1082 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 you don't say just though i did say i don't we can 1083 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 pull out the apple cider junior group if you want to see 1084 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 how harsh that is compared to this i know i mean it's 1085 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 acidic but it's just saying it's like just apple cider no i 1086 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 didn't mean OK i'm sorry i should never have said the word 1087 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 just didn't mean that the nice thing about it is is i 1088 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 guess i'll have sourness without having any like pithy notes or rindy 1089 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 notes there the leather keeps coming back for me at least in 1090 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 my glass that's that oh yeah no it's definitely there it's it's 1091 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 an undertone that also makes it so it's not just pure sourness 1092 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 leatherwood yeah but that's that's green that's my anchor point to like 1093 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 you know because i want that rustic i want that level of 1094 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 rustic in my blends in my sour saison thingies oh yeah this 1095 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 one brings it like most don't that's the foundation that the rest 1096 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 of it rests upon and if that wasn't there it would be 1097 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 very unbalanced let's go into the runny cheese this all run together 1098 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 so the the runny version so we just had we have the 1099 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 willoughby which is the semi runny and this is the harbison which 1100 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 is the very very runny this is like i just had bark 1101 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 wrapped all right oh my god that's so good that has more 1102 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 character than the other ones for sure it's got it's not as 1103 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 sour and sticky shannon if you think you can try it nope 1104 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 nope but no it's boom that's so good that's really delicious but 1105 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i don't more have the words for for cheese as much as 1106 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i do for beers yeah it's more subtle it doesn't have any 1107 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 of that really funk to it it's more creamy i mean there's 1108 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 probably a little funk in there but like compared to the last 1109 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 two it's clean oh there's definitely funk there but yeah it's got 1110 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it's got notes of the sour cream of creme fresh and stuff 1111 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 like that it's it's really tasty you know and and the fattiness 1112 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 goes a long way there's a tang that's not sour there's yeah 1113 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 almost like something from creme fresh or something like that right where 1114 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 you're getting that kind of like tanginess but it's clean it's not 1115 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 really lemony it's a little bit of like a maybe like a 1116 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 parsnippy note something some root vegetable type thing but like a roasted 1117 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 version of that and there's a little bit of like there's so 1118 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 many things are there they're just distinctly cheese there is that are 1119 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 let me throw this at you maybe you let me with the 1120 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 roasted parsnips i started thinking thanksgiving but like i'm like there's a 1121 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 little bit of like dressing like you know bread like stuffing dressing 1122 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 you know like maybe it's the onions maybe it's the the seasonings 1123 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 that are in it there's definitely some yes sweet onion me thing 1124 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 like if you ever made like a sweet onion relish that comes 1125 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 through there yeah so like the sulfur you know is really covered 1126 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 up so good it is really tasting if you think you can 1127 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 try i can't i mean it's basically just transformed grass but it's 1128 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 not it's not funky and weird it is sweet and yummy no 1129 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 well if he had a cracker and put that on it no 1130 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i love her anyway bless your heart i can't wait to drink 1131 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i can't wait to drink the rest of this oxbow in the 1132 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 post show that's so damn good all right what's what's our last 1133 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 fear of the night our last fear of the night which i 1134 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 thought we already did no all right all right all right all 1135 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 right so when we were our airbnb for portland was in gorham 1136 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 yes gorham and this is the sebago brewing company barley wine just 1137 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 a it's a it's a kind of in a shopping area brew 1138 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 pub didn't have huge expectations for them but it was super close 1139 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 to the the airbnb their food was good their beers are pretty 1140 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 good but this barley wine all right so we're ending on a 1141 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 on a multi high alcohol note twelve point nine percent alcohol by 1142 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 volume oh yeah it's so much for your sobriety it's only a 1143 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 twelve ounce can yeah yeah i know i'm just joking got centennial 1144 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 cascade and columbus hop very classic i didn't think you'd give that 1145 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 to me barley there's more that's the only reason i'm being nice 1146 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 i was i figured she would be like no MUI was grabbing 1147 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 for a glass to drink it and she gave it to me 1148 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 and she loves me all right well while you're doing that i'll 1149 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 read out the green bill on here two row malt crystal malt 1150 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 maris otter maris otter one of my favorite malt oh OK this 1151 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 is that's what's used in ES BS it's it's got this very 1152 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 bready bready but with caramel notes type thing bread pudding well i 1153 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 yeah bread pudding roasted barley wheat malt special B special B and 1154 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 main pale malt yeah so shannon posted a picture of this beer 1155 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 in this can on sobago 's oh i did well i did 1156 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 a review a google review but like how much you got like 1157 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 you got viral i was yeah it was a ridiculous amount of 1158 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 views within twenty four hours i got a notification from google yeah 1159 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it's different so we had this barley wine there and we had 1160 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 it out of the can so hopefully this one is the same 1161 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it pours with no head it pours very dark brown beautiful beautiful 1162 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 the aroma it's equal parts it's it's really different so it really 1163 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it really hits you strong compared to the flight that we've had 1164 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 it's equal for me it's like equal parts bread pudding and barrel 1165 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 and and the bit of campfire OK oh like like burnt marshmallow 1166 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 i was going to say toffee yeah toffee there's a little bit 1167 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 of like caramel swirl vanilla ice cream in the aroma oh that's 1168 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 a good call yeah molasses definitely the aroma brings it on it 1169 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 oh boy this smells fantastic this is the twenty twenty two this 1170 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 is this is the best smell of the night oh for sure 1171 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 made main my heart it's still there it's brewed for times like 1172 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 these that's what it says right there brewed for times like these 1173 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 that's a that's a weird slogan because how like i'm sure it's 1174 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 brewed all the time i don't know i mean but i've been 1175 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 really missing maine today so there totally is like a s'more thing 1176 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 going on there with the kind of toasted marshmallow graham crack oh 1177 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 yeah vanilla caramel just campfire in general there's just a it's like 1178 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 a candy bar and and this beer is not your crazy milkshake 1179 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 vanilla ice cream no this is barley wine this is american barley 1180 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 wine maybe english barley wine thrown in a burden barrel not only 1181 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 that this has been like sitting out for like an hour and 1182 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 a half at least right so it's at a really good temperature 1183 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 oh it smells so good it's one of those beers where it's 1184 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 like just sniff sniff sniff air freshener it oh my god that 1185 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 tastes good too dark dark chocolate almost like a chocolate liqueur yes 1186 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 yeah with with a with a bit of both a chocolate you're 1187 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 familiar with and a chocolate that's bitter without going too far in 1188 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 either direction then the barrel comes through you know like right now 1189 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 we're all going yeah and the oakiness we're all going to punch 1190 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the barrel right now now do any of you taste hold on 1191 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 let me do before i ask a question let me take another 1192 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 sip do either of you taste a hint of raspberry in that 1193 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 just a really really subtle hint only in the anticipatory thing of 1194 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 like this would be great with rasp with raspberries maybe that's what 1195 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 it is that i'm thinking because i dark chocolate raspberry in the 1196 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 sense i can taste the whole that a raspberry would fill as 1197 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 opposed to an actual raspberry OK what i do taste is is 1198 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 is like a bitter chocolate like like an oreo without the cream 1199 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 oh i think it's much more bitter than that i think it's 1200 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 a much darker chocolate i know it is but i think there's 1201 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 a straight up oreo wafers are pretty bitter they don't have much 1202 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 sweetness to them that you have to have the cream well maybe 1203 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 i haven't had a straight up they're not popular in other countries 1204 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 because the crackers are too to like better not speed we have 1205 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 so like things like stuff that gives us so much more cream 1206 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 yeah so much like hydrox are way popular elsewhere because the the 1207 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 crackers have more so is this the last can that we have 1208 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 hydrox game before one more we do oh that's unfortunate why is 1209 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it unfortunate you better share it with me because i need an 1210 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 excuse to go back next week buy some more the news story 1211 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 that you pointed out that we haven't talked about is anheuser busch 1212 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 selling selling shock top and blue point to to a cannabis company 1213 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 they sold a bunch of brands they sold where is it i'm 1214 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 sorry i i just want to continue talking about this beer for 1215 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 a minute sure good the toffee mm hmm mm hmm yeah there's 1216 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,880 a the more it warms up the the more the flavor changes 1217 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 it just it it just there's a real teeth parsing like i 1218 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 think that one of the big problems that i tend to have 1219 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 with barley wine is they're too sweet this is not too sweet 1220 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 no and i think that's because isn't this is a barrel aged 1221 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 so i think that that's why i mean you that barrel aged 1222 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 keeps it from it's it's possible although i've had other barley other 1223 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 barrel barrel aged barley wines before that have not been this you 1224 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 know edged towards bitter which i think makes it more balanced some 1225 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 people may disagree but i think that this makes it much more 1226 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 drinkable and much more like you said toffee and sort of the 1227 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 candy mar notes and and the bitterness helps to make it so 1228 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 you don't get this lingering sweetness right so they sold shock top 1229 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 breckenridge blue point ten barrel red hook Widmer Brothers square mile cider company 1230 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 and highball energy wow so basically i mean they didn't sell goose 1231 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 island didn't sell four points or six point six point no four 1232 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 points the one in arizona yeah OK yeah i forgot about them 1233 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 so yeah they they dumped all i saw the greatest snarky comment 1234 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 it's like anheuser busch is able to do what none of those 1235 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 sales reps could do sell shock top did you notice that small 1236 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 batch is that what you're pointing to what about it small everything 1237 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 's a small batch i mean it's not like they're not making 1238 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 a million barrels at a time so yeah small batch is kind 1239 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 of more marketing speaking i mean the label the small batch when 1240 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 it comes to bourbon sure that yes i mean this isn't their 1241 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 flagship this isn't their brown ale this isn't their IPA this is 1242 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 their barley wine they brew it once or twice a year but 1243 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 i'm sure that this this thing everything counts as a small batch 1244 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 anytime you talk about a bourbon barrel aged barley wine that we're 1245 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 losing over like this is a small badge so i didn't know 1246 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 the label is great the label is very classic it has like 1247 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 the wheat things you know like the the script for the wheat 1248 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 thing it's it's it's it's not crazy schizophrenic twenty twenty craft beer 1249 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 beer labels but if you want a sound that represents the flavor 1250 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it was probably something like this the new part of the show 1251 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i think is like since it's a podcast you know like the 1252 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 only sense the listener gets is sound we have to find songs 1253 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 that best represent the beers that sounds like a hard to ask 1254 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i know i'm really setting us up for failure here yeah i 1255 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 love the ID it's also especially hard to do on the fly 1256 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 on the fly yeah i just happen to have a sound that 1257 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 matches it but it it is it's got that sexy velvety look 1258 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 your google thing how many hits do you have it was like 1259 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 thousands of views right there's yeah trying to pull it up right 1260 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 now your watch face greg has much stuff on it what is 1261 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 all on your watch i noticed that earlier this is carrot this 1262 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 is my new weather app and it's great carrot 's great because 1263 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 dark sky has been absorbing the apple and so i used carrot 1264 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 now i didn't know whether apps had watch faces they did has 1265 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 a couple of watch faces has this one it has that one 1266 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 it has OK this one a co worker of mine asked me 1267 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 about dark skies for the perseids last weekend and it was a 1268 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 rain out so it turned out to be nothing but i and 1269 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 showed him you know a dark sky map and whatnot and i 1270 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 mentioned the time we went up to meadville yeah and that was 1271 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 such a cool experience i think we were just talking about while 1272 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 we're drinking this beer right is greg and i wanted to go 1273 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 watch the perseids so he came up to my house in cranberry 1274 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 at eleven o'clock at night or something like that and the best 1275 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 time to watch meteor showers is after midnight because the sky above 1276 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 your head is in the space like the new space like it's 1277 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 it's the the bumper of the car of of the planet so 1278 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 like before midnight you don't get a ton of stuff we got 1279 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 up there i don't know what time we got up there but 1280 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 it was eleven thirty midnight something like that and you were driving 1281 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i was in the passenger seat and the way we did it 1282 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 was we had a an overlay of white pollution map and google 1283 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 maps and the overlay back then wasn't nearly as good as they 1284 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 are now the one the one i looked at last week was 1285 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 way better than the one back then and what i did was 1286 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 i found this like little dark corner out by meadville that was 1287 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 like farm fields so we i knew we could just pull off 1288 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 on the side of the road so we did exactly that we 1289 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 found this road through two cornfields pulled off on the side of 1290 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 the road and like OK we're here and i was under the 1291 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 impression like i'm still going to need some time for my eyes 1292 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 to adjust i step out of the passenger 's seat i look 1293 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 up and there's just this purple wash across the sky the milky 1294 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 way was fucking blazing at me like and my eyes weren't even 1295 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 adjusting yet and so we set up some chairs and we were 1296 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 looking up at the sky and we started to see some meteors 1297 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 it was really good we probably saw thirty forty an hour something 1298 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 like that yeah and but at one thirty it got foggy not 1299 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 just cloudy foggy and that was the end of it so but 1300 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 yeah i was like it was also it was great time because 1301 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the moon and it was a new moon yeah so like the 1302 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 moon is going to wash out so much of that because you 1303 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 know i mean meteors are basically pieces of dust a little more 1304 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 than you know cigarette smoke out there but just as hitting the 1305 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 atmosphere very fast when shannon and i were up in acadia there's 1306 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 some really like sheltered parts of the park and astronomy and stargazing 1307 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 and the parks open twenty four hours a day so you're allowed 1308 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to go in at night and so we were looking at the 1309 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 schedule like the the dark sky clear sky forecast kind of thing 1310 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 and really it was like just one day that we had an 1311 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 opportunity to do it and had a couple options of where to 1312 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 go and we decided to go on the rocks on the ocean 1313 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 some people might know this landmark but by thunder hole i don't 1314 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 expect you to know but someone might get it so and but 1315 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it was a little hazy still you know like you could tell 1316 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 where the milky way was but you couldn't appreciate the milky way 1317 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,960 and then we we saw a few shooting stars saw some satellites 1318 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 it was really cold it got really cold and we didn't have 1319 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 like sleeping bags or anything like that and then it seemed like 1320 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it was getting more hazy and we weren't seeing as much stuff 1321 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 when we built so it does bring your mind two times one 1322 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 time probably about twelve years ago when my first times went out 1323 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 to cape cod there was a meteor shower was happening and i 1324 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 went out with my brother in law 's sister at like two 1325 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 AM and we went to the beach and saw some meteor it 1326 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 wasn't great we saw some then there was the time when the 1327 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 first time i went to the grand canyon and i happened to 1328 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 notice as i was like sort of walking out after i'd like 1329 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 cool is the grand canyon it's great this thing saying grand canyon 1330 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 is some of the darkest skies in in the united states because 1331 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 of the blah blah blah it's like OK cool so i came 1332 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 back around like one AM and it was dark and it was 1333 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,880 the first time that i understood what the milky way meant because 1334 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 you not only saw it but it looked like someone had spilled 1335 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 some milk on some velvet and it was just so there was 1336 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 it was like a stain of like stuff in this band i 1337 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 was like wow that's awesome that time up in meadville is the 1338 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 only time i've appreciated the milk i was hoping we're up in 1339 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 maine we get it but the the dark skies up there like 1340 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 do you look at the overlay it's good you're just too easy 1341 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to get it yeah and the ground light was super good where 1342 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 we were couldn't see any kind of halogen light or anything like 1343 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 that the only thing we would see was the roads so cars 1344 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 who were driving like it's those headlights were hitting us but yeah 1345 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 like there's also night now that all the weather apps have cloud 1346 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 cover too so you can use that to see if there is 1347 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 you know any when we when we did that there didn't have 1348 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 any of that information you want to do some rankings sure we 1349 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 got to do rankings and i got to do marry fuck kills 1350 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 rankins rankins so i was trying to think you know we totally 1351 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 stole mary fuck kill from what the bearers do they they do 1352 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 try buy or die which is basically mary fuck kill yeah i 1353 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 know but i i do not want anyone to think that we're 1354 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 clever we totally stole this from the bearests john rubio gets all 1355 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 the props for mary fuck kill or whoever on the bearest team 1356 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 decided to do that note i'll get john the credit all right 1357 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 whoever 's going first needs to take a picture of their order 1358 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 yeah that makes it a lot easier for me to post this 1359 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 show oh my goodness so last place is going to be hard 1360 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 because this was a pretty damn good show it's going to be 1361 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 one of the ipas i guess while you're dealing let's listen to 1362 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 your parents are caught with a sister nasty on a saturday night 1363 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 you got lots of trouble i'm thinking in the pool hall window 1364 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 after school you got trouble folks right here in river city trouble 1365 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 with a capital T and that rhymes with P and that stands 1366 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 for pool now i know all you folks are the right slap 1367 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i mean shannon 's the only one taking notes well that was 1368 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 more for myself because it was my flavor profile my liking so 1369 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 but hopefully i can crib off your notes to get some ideas 1370 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 you sure can absolutely i mean you know i didn't write a 1371 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 lot but all right i got my rankings and then my caveat 1372 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 here is that we going from first to last or last to 1373 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 first i kind of built suspense last to first always but the 1374 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 prison city mass riots going to be my last place last place 1375 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 beer and it it falls into that total category of hard luck 1376 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 loser tonight's show was amazing super delicious so mass riot and definitive 1377 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 were very similar beers hazy IPS with lots of tropical flavors guava 1378 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 leading melanie stuff like that i think i liked the definitive better 1379 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 so i'm going to put the mass riots at the end of 1380 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the lineup then comes bellflower brewing farmhouse ale delicious beer again it's 1381 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 also hard luck loser i dare say because the rest of the 1382 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 lineup was so strong i liked how it had that kind of 1383 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 lemony lemongrass flavor to it it wasn't quite as dry as i 1384 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 had hoped it would be i think that's part of it and 1385 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 now a little more funk little more dryness then in whatever place 1386 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 this is one two three four five fifth place is definitive stainless 1387 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 oasis this guy had that tropic that i really liked for the 1388 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 hazy ipas top of notch right but it's competing against the rest 1389 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 of the beers which aren't hazy ipas and so it gets knocked 1390 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 down but i really enjoyed that i'm going to put the rye 1391 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 IPA four from twin barn in fourth place the this gets the 1392 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 win because it was different you know it gets its it gets 1393 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the win of the ipas because it was different i'm going back 1394 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 out there's a dog lying in the room caught there so laying 1395 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 in the room on lincoln you go see what she's like dory 1396 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 it's a little pitbull tore us here and found the injured dog 1397 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 on the road so she's going to rescue it and now she'll 1398 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 have another car right there so she'll have a new dog oh 1399 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 gosh now be careful fourth anniversary from twin barn this guy wins 1400 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the IPA race tonight because it was different i really liked how 1401 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 the rye played it was dryer it was almost loggery in the 1402 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 malt bill and the way the malt was presented it was almost 1403 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 loggery and then the hop with i think it was kind of 1404 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 a melanie hop the new zealand hop yeah came across melanie i 1405 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 really like that so that wins the hoppy battle tonight and then 1406 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 in third place i'm going to put the beer de capage that 1407 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 guy was yummy but we had two top notches beers before now 1408 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 the top two really a struggle but it's more of like access 1409 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 to me i've had other barrel aged barley wines that have been 1410 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 delicious so i'm going to put the sebago in the second place 1411 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 super duper good everything about it but because it's hard to find 1412 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 a beer like native wild from oxbow brewing where it brings that 1413 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 leather and that granite and everything it it it it's king tonight 1414 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 all right let me get a picture of that give me your 1415 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 phone so i can take a picture because my phone 's on 1416 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 the charger of course you and your problems with batteries all right 1417 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 who's next janet me yeah all right well fortunately for the folks 1418 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 listening i have mine numbered and ready to go so i shouldn't 1419 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 even be able to do this relatively i just do it lively 1420 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 well no i mean i rate them but then i have to 1421 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 like look at yeah you'd have to look at my i don't 1422 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 understand anyway so calculus in there and we have terrific equations do 1423 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 i no i'm not that smart don't give me that much credit 1424 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 not that smart just about learning a process believe me there are 1425 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 idiots who know calculus people who are really stupid and people are 1426 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 really smart who don't know calculus at all four three that time 1427 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 of the night were great so far here we go so jeff 1428 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 yes dear apparently i married you for a reason OK great mind 1429 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 thing great minds great minds think alike i am back in my 1430 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 past you know it's it's really unfortunate because we had this really 1431 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 great selection of beers to choose from tonight so fortunate i mean 1432 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 it's fortunate but it's unfortunate that someone has to be ranked last 1433 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 yeah exactly that's that's what i'm trying to say so in last 1434 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 place but still really good i have to agree with jeff and 1435 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 and the prison prison city mass riot is going to fall last 1436 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 apparently that's where our agreement ends though because i'm not sure which 1437 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 one you chose next but my sixth place was we had seven 1438 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 would be the twin barns golden rye IPA did you choose that 1439 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 one that was my winner but i don't know OK all right 1440 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 it just it didn't do it for me it you know it 1441 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 it was it just didn't bring a lot of flavor yeah i 1442 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 think for me i elevated it because it was different no it 1443 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 was different everyone has their own scale but you don't have to 1444 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 use anybody anybody else 's scale to measure it's whatever you think 1445 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 is best for whatever reason you think is best that's totally contrived 1446 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 it didn't yeah for me it just didn't get i'm sorry we 1447 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 didn't go over before i before we continue your marry fuck kills 1448 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 jeff oh i thought we'd do that after though OK then all 1449 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 right that's fine go ahead sorry i didn't want to interrupt i 1450 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 i but i did so i apologize and shannon continue please that's 1451 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 fine let's see number five i'm going to have to it hurts 1452 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 i mean this really hurts for me to rate these because every 1453 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 single one of these i really enjoy enjoy there wasn't a sticker 1454 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 in the run there there really wasn't so it's it's it's very 1455 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 difficult and it's very difficult for me to to say this but 1456 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 i'm going to have to go with the bellflower now i can't 1457 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 talk farmhouse ale i love it i mean i'd i really like 1458 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 that that barn wheat grainy it was light it it was sweet 1459 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 but it was a really subtle sweetness and i i really liked 1460 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it but unfortunately it's all right it's competing to get some really 1461 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 tough ones so that's five number four definitive which again really hard 1462 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 for me to say that because i really loved how smooth it 1463 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 was it was bursting with flavor i love that it has a 1464 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 handicap against the top three though it really does it does it's 1465 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 an I P A I love ipas but i apparently you know 1466 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 when it's up against some of these others and also think about 1467 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 the price point this was like a four dollar or five dollar 1468 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 beer this was a eighteen dollar beer yeah you mentioned which ones 1469 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 you're pointing to yeah yeah well we have to wait the cans 1470 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 or the IPA cans you know are in the forage and then 1471 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 the green bottles are like the sixteen eighteen twenty dollar bottles so 1472 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 so anyway so i really i really do love definitive i i 1473 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 had a number of their beers while we were there and have 1474 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 had this one i had this one on tap i've had this 1475 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 one here at home my hand slapped for drinking it it's really 1476 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 enjoyable but you know it's up against some really hard ones so 1477 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 anyways next on the list number three i'm going to have to 1478 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 go with them i'm going to slaughter the name that's fine slaughter 1479 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 it slaughter it do it i'm very out of date go page 1480 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 nail it you said it more eastern your it was a eastern 1481 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 european eastern european saying your french beer name OK from what is 1482 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 that schilling beer company yeah i like that really liked it i 1483 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 don't know what to say about it i really liked how that 1484 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 really sourness was complemented and and kind of just mixed really well 1485 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 with that stays on that just kind of balanced everything so you 1486 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 had that tartness but it wasn't i mean it it was there 1487 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 but it was just balanced out really nicely so i really i 1488 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 really enjoyed that bursting with different flavors too and then number two 1489 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 this is so hard so hard for me i'm wearing this shirt 1490 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 it's weird you don't you need to disconnect from the emotional wart 1491 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 of this it's not going to feel bad about it it's the 1492 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 the oxbow native wild hats just kill it pour it out if 1493 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 you rated second freaking awesome i mean it is it i can't 1494 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 say enough about how fabulous it is yeah and it it's they 1495 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 didn't have anything like that on tap when we were there execute 1496 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 order this is one of the beers sixty six that we you 1497 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 know just shopped we bought at least a case of ox buzz 1498 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 and yeah so it's so fulfilling gratifying like that didn't waste money 1499 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 that like that that it delivers that we didn't waste money yeah 1500 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 no for sure the beers that we had on tap though were 1501 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 really really shopping for to go beers at oxbow was crazy it 1502 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 probably had fifty different things you picked a good one there's more 1503 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 downstairs so looking forward to it when we do a next show 1504 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 right now first place i have to go with the barley wine 1505 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 from cibago i mean it just really nails it i love so 1506 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 as my taste buds have evolved over the years short years i've 1507 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 realized that i really like these these barley wines i mean they 1508 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 barley wine there's a few others too but barley wines are i 1509 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 love that barrel that bourbon barrel one one thing that we didn't 1510 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 specify clearly is this is straight up in english style barley wine 1511 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 versus an american i don't know the difference american will probably once 1512 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 will have more hop to them and i don't like them i 1513 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 wouldn't want that either if you get us here in about a 1514 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 big fine hoppy barley wines and i mean i haven't had a 1515 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 lot of barley wines recently but i haven't tasted a lot of 1516 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 recently hoppy barley wines i don't so i don't know whether that 1517 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 that still accounts for things i think that there is but having 1518 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 something that is unabashedly english style with a marisota and everything that 1519 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 that's true it's a huge bonus in my opinion and probably yeah 1520 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 definitely definitely so that has to be number one for me i 1521 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 guess i need to take a picture snappy snap snappy snap snappy 1522 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 snap all right you lower my volume no i get the problem 1523 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 where sometimes i just lose the audio you lose you lose your 1524 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 old USB i got i got hold of it sorry i got 1525 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 it you already know he knows i know i know i know 1526 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i can guarantee you all the ipas are at the bottom of 1527 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the list no no not all not all he's struggling OK so 1528 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 what i'm going by my metric for this is remarkability what am 1529 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i remembering this was a very good show i really enjoyed it 1530 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 i enjoyed the conversation we had i enjoyed the beers we had 1531 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 the cheese don't forget the cheese we had not for me but 1532 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 for you what do i remember and this is the order by 1533 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 which at least at the back end definitely how i remember things 1534 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 and at the front end i think what i will remember anyway 1535 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 we talked over the mass ryan it was completely unremarkable it was 1536 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 really good drinker it was tasty and we just went right through 1537 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 it and that is both a good sign if you want something 1538 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 that's a good drinker and it's going to be you know it's 1539 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 not going to bother you can drink it while you're watching stuff 1540 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 that's that's great but it didn't stink it didn't it you know 1541 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it didn't but didn't really illicit conversation pull you out of the 1542 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 stream of conversation right and definitive is like right next to it 1543 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 for me and so is bellflower like i'm only putting bellflower in 1544 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 the front because and you call it's not it's not hazy but 1545 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i don't remember much about bellflower i really don't those three are 1546 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 just they're they're not ringing any bells i i was looking at 1547 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 the your your list and i was like yeah i guess that's 1548 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 true but i didn't remember what was happening here and then the 1549 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 the front four i remember them they're distinctive to me the the 1550 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 four is in my in right in the middle in fourth place 1551 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 it is a it's got that it's got that tingle of wryness 1552 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 that made it something to remark upon that the other stuff didn't 1553 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 seem to have then the bearded cupage which i agree with you 1554 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 shannon there was there was just so well balanced and the the 1555 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 it's just the way that that was you cut this obviously really 1556 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 crazy wild with this saison to make it slim it's very drinkable 1557 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 at the same time you get a lot of really cool flavors 1558 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 and you get a lot of evolving stuff going on the native 1559 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 wild was probably the best beer of the night i think that 1560 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 that this is the one that is it's got so much going 1561 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 on it's it's so so much to talk about so much to 1562 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 to dig into but the tsipago was i'm going to remember that 1563 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 toffee do you have any left no i have none left that's 1564 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 unfortunate yeah look at you nurse savering so yeah like the serbago 1565 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 was just i was oh no no it's OK i don't want 1566 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 to i don't want to even even taint my memory i i 1567 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 i just i really really enjoyed the hell out of it and 1568 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 like it's the thing that on my mind oh oh could you 1569 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 bring up some of the cheese there bring up the the the 1570 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the gooeyest one the gooey gooey the gooeyest one i mean such 1571 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 a knife this is the the harbison the harbison goes in in 1572 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 third place oh so we're ranking them too huh i mean i 1573 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 am OK you don't have to no so good you don't want 1574 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 me to but but the harbison to me was good enough to 1575 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 go in third place of of of this ranking so i'm going 1576 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 to take a picture of these guys let me make them yeah 1577 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 make it gets so i can visible all of the all the 1578 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 guys and take a picture all right it's a it's marry fuck 1579 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 kill time jeff all right kill 's going to be hard kill 1580 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 's going to be hard can't kill i can't kill to marry 1581 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 the oxbow it's the rules it's the rules i'm going to fuck 1582 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 if you know you're disqualified fuck you it's like i don't even 1583 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 know how to do this i'm going to marry the oxbow i 1584 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 have been a no i'm going to need to marry the bearded 1585 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 taj and a fuck the oxbow then i'm going to kill the 1586 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the bellflower OK don't try to make sense of it don't it's 1587 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 like it's like don't apologize to alexa don't give these beers a 1588 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 personality don't don't make them don't think of them as people they're 1589 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 just products right is it my turn it is your turn i 1590 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 have to marry and fuck and kill and kill yes do it 1591 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 do it fine fine it figure it out so if i'm married 1592 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 that's that's the one that i'm i'm drinking all day every day 1593 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 all day and suck with it for life fuck hold on i 1594 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 got to look at my notes again which one do i want 1595 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 to thank all day every day for the rest of my life 1596 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 for all the days you sell those and if you don't abide 1597 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 by that then you're going to have to pay a lot of 1598 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 tax you're going to pay a lot of money so that means 1599 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 that after i finish doing my lawnmark that's the one that i'm 1600 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 going to go to right i have a rough day at work 1601 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 that's the one i'm picking up and i'm going to drink that's 1602 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 going to be my go to i mean the one i'm married 1603 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 that's what you wanted to feel i mean no i'm asking like 1604 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 when you say mary that's the one that's my go to OK 1605 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 is that what you're saying that's is that you know necessarily be 1606 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 how i look at it but if that's how you want to 1607 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 look at it no i'm asking like well i don't want i 1608 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 don't want you to take my interpretation of it i want you 1609 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 to have your own my interpretation of mary fuck fuck and kill 1610 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 OK mary is going to be the go to mary 's going 1611 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 to be the one that's always going to be in the fridge 1612 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 that i'm going to go to all right it's going to be 1613 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 tough i'm going to if i'm marrying one if i'm marrying one 1614 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 it's going to be an IPA all right and it's going to 1615 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 be a definitive OK all right it's your definitive choice that's my 1616 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 definitive choice the one i'm going to fuck gosh that's so hard 1617 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 can i have two i'm gonna look like your side piece yeah 1618 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 yeah your guma i'm gonna fuck the oxbow all right yeah threesome 1619 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 you'll be in the oxbow yep yep yep and i'm going to 1620 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 kill kill i'm gonna shank them in the prison i'm gonna kill 1621 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 the prison the mass riot in the prison which is unfortunate because 1622 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 i really like this one too yeah well i mean contrived games 1623 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 have hard luck so yeah gregory OK marry five kill let's go 1624 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 to kill his first three were completely inoffensive and very drinkable so 1625 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 i'm going to kill the fort you're killing the fort yeah because 1626 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i mean it was interesting but i mean do i want that 1627 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 all the time not really that's an interesting way to look at 1628 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it yeah actually you know what i should have killed the i 1629 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 should have killed the rye probably should have killed the rye but 1630 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 you're absolutely right i didn't think about that no i should have 1631 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 can i take that back because decision has been made i didn't 1632 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 think about the fact that it's not oh it's been carried out 1633 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 on it fine fine fine can i kill i still want to 1634 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 kill her right i'm going to fuck spago any chance i get 1635 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 because man i know that's like a that's like you know waterbed 1636 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 and velvet that's a that's a dream getting to fucking tobago but 1637 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 in terms of marrying oh man i'm going to want the oxbow 1638 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 all the time really oh yeah oh yeah like if i had 1639 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to live with something i want something that's interesting and it's going 1640 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 to be surprising you don't think you're going to get tired of 1641 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 it if i married the oxbow i think it would divorce me 1642 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 yeah it might but i'm still going to do that marrying just 1643 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 so i can say i think if i married it i'd get 1644 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 tired of it oh i don't i i mean maybe but i'm 1645 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 a neophyte to marrying so maybe i'm wrong here i want to 1646 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 fuck it on the side man but that's why i think of 1647 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 of of the sebago like i think that would be there's no 1648 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 wrong answers that's the fun part about this yeah and we're like 1649 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 two hours and fifteen minutes in so i should like grab the 1650 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 main i'm sorry no i like it because i think that we 1651 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 did kind of a the the the show that i was wanting 1652 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 to do which is more of the the medium and yet there's 1653 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 more join our discord and you'll be able to find our post 1654 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 show posted right in the show notes section of the shows of 1655 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 the shows on the discord shows join our discord and you will 1656 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 interact with all of us all the time buy my book buy 1657 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 my book i'm not always on crappy radio is released under the 1658 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 creative commons license and ball the blah blah we used to say 1659 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 yeah i mean who cares about that shit anymore crappy radio is 1660 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 being used by open AI and other places to train themselves to 1661 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 understand audio and to you know make really bad beer decisions beer 1662 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 decisions and and really bad like and and and poorly made reports 1663 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 for young kids in school join our discord tell us what you 1664 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 want us to talk about it give us some feedback we want 1665 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 to hear it come on guys that's your assignment do it do 1666 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 it do it you know all and for those wondering our nagging 1667 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 does work we're building you know getting like some of the like 1668 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 old OG CBR groupies on there so i mean that the best 1669 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 way please don't hear that it's like an insult in the desert 1670 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,960 thanks see y'all in the post show one two three shoot greg 1671 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:12,640 glens welcome to craft beer radio episode five hundred ten on five 1672 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:24,080 hundred eleven on august eighteenth twenty twenty three i'm 1673 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:27,800 shannon i'm jeff i was looking for a microphone to talk into 1674 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,480 i'm still not used to these lavalier mics i'm greg where's my 1675 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,120 mic all right so yeah greg mentioned it in the intro there 1676 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,400 but the last like three shows we said the wrong episode number 1677 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,520 at the beginning of the thing so i just like it i 1678 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,720 i just think it should be just something that we stay with 1679 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,240 why do we need to be pressured to be accurate right i 1680 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,240 mean so what do you got here what are you pouring for 1681 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,640 these are more beers from our trip good news for you greg 1682 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,000 this will be the last show where i feel like we have 1683 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:00,120 to get the ipas while they're fresh but this one is the 1684 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,960 fourth anniversary from twin barns brewing it is a golden rye IPA 1685 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 so this should be something a little bit different from the the 1686 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 no i poured poorly shannon get much and we're going to have 1687 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 some more so there's some too so we're going to have to 1688 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 do the mixing mix dumb mixing three way here OK so this 1689 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 is hop with six point seven percent hop with new zealand grown 1690 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 nectaroon and rewaka hop OK all right yeah and then the other 1691 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 note is that this is a rye IPA so you know rye 1692 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 will typically give it a more spicy and character to the grand 1693 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 maltville it's also a hazy i know you pulled these out before 1694 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 it's still pretty cold and you know warm this up a bit 1695 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 how has your couple of weeks been as your fortnight it's been 1696 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 busy with work and still making bowls got back to making bowls 1697 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 so it's fun can make bowls while i can i have one 1698 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 of your bowls and it's a great bowl yeah it's got one 1699 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 of the good ones too i really like that knothole that was 1700 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 in that one yeah i was making this probably like my third 1701 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 or fourth bowl and i'm turning it and it still has the 1702 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 bark on it i really don't know what it's going to be 1703 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 and there was some you know like kind of punky wood like 1704 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 a branch knothole in the side and i was thinking i was 1705 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 going to once i got it cleared off i was going to 1706 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 glue that in epoxy at something and then as i'm turning it 1707 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the knot flies out like hits me in the shoulder so i'm 1708 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 OK i guess i'm good you were wearing eyewear yeah yeah got 1709 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 a whole face shield so punky is that the term when it's 1710 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 like almost rotten OK like soft and rotten because the first thing 1711 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 that came into my mind when i heard punky was anybody punky 1712 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 brewster punky brewster which then i realized could that be a name 1713 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 for a brewery i'm the punky brewster there you go NBC or 1714 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 CBS probably still owns like the trademark probably i don't really get 1715 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 a lot on the nose do you all yeah something hobby but 1716 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 that's kind of it i'm not kidding so these are what's we 1717 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 can root raku right nectarine and rewaka rewaka OK yeah so rewaka 1718 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 is one of those new zealand hop right so a little soft 1719 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 a little bit vanilla a little bit melon you know so i 1720 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 am smelling something like that on the nose not really like big 1721 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 old citrus or anything like that and then in the aroma you're 1722 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 getting aroma you're also getting in the malt you know you're getting 1723 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 a little bit of barley a fair amount of rye yeah that's 1724 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 mostly what i'm getting yeah it is the malt and i'm the 1725 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 malt yeah i guess there's a little like i don't know something 1726 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 peach like for me it's a little bit like candle or honeydew 1727 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 like a yeah that that's a that's a better description yeah very 1728 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 mild yes it's kind of dry has a nice christmas to it 1729 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 cause of the rye and the multiple i think the rye adds 1730 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 something to it by making it not feel just kind of puffy 1731 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 by giving a little bit of a bite but it also is 1732 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 very like melanie on on the first step and it it's more 1733 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 sweet and then the rye kicks in yeah had this beer this 1734 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 was the day that we were did the all the rainy day 1735 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 breweries in new hampshire and this was that last place right by 1736 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 our airbnb oh yeah yeah we got this that's a good one 1737 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 to me it seems very bitter i think it's sarai 'cause i 1738 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 don't feel like that it's it's bitter hop wise i don't have 1739 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 any IB us or anything like that yeah it doesn't taste like 1740 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 a a resiny like hop bitterness it's very dry it is and 1741 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 there's kind of a twang on your tongue a little bit you 1742 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 know like i think that's from the rye is that what you're 1743 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 coming across it's from the rye yeah it's different and i like 1744 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 that it's different because i just posted an on discord by the 1745 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 way please join our discord the link is on see crafter radio 1746 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 dot com right on the front page towards the bottom and then 1747 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 in the what are we drinking area i posted that i got 1748 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 what was it not heavy topper but the other one focal banger 1749 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 focal banger from The Alchemist and it was yeah fifteen wow yeah yesterday 1750 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 is when i bought it and it was made two days before 1751 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 so like like that's as fresh i think as i could possibly 1752 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 get in pittsburgh oh for sure so and yeah it was just 1753 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 like it was fine and it kind of reminded me of all 1754 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the things that this this thing was i think it's a little 1755 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 bit more drinkable than heady topper yeah yeah i had one one 1756 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 at the The Alchemist but i was i guess i was looking for 1757 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 this super juicy super fresh i'm at you know at mecca kind 1758 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 of thing i drank the sucker from the can did you yeah 1759 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i i i read all the instructions i the thing is if 1760 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 nothing else like i said in in in the chat there the 1761 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 thing that i appreciated the most wasn't the fact that oh i 1762 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 get a whale but it was this is a this place that 1763 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i shop for beer which i do is pay in something of 1764 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 a premium for you know it is more expensive than it would 1765 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 be like it some of the other stores but they're taking care 1766 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 of their beer and the this was right out there fresh is 1767 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 kind of crazy so still city beer is the importer for the 1768 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 The Alchemist which i had errantly presumed OK they signed a contract but 1769 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i don't think The Alchemist has any beer to come to pittsburgh well 1770 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 obviously that's wrong but it's crazy that it went from canning line 1771 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 through the wholesaler to the retailer in two days when it's a 1772 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 fourteen hour drive so and i'm pretty sure because i think i've 1773 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 talked to people there you know they make sure that stuff arrives 1774 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 cold you know it's not they don't have it let it go 1775 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 warming there's obviously there are beers out there that aren't in their 1776 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 fridge so it's not like they do it everything is like that 1777 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 but for the for the expensive stuff the top shelf stuff they 1778 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 they keep it cold and they make sure it's there so i 1779 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 appreciate it that much the fact that the beer wasn't that amazing 1780 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 it's fine i'm willing to pay a little bit of of an 1781 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 extra thing just as a shout out to the you know as 1782 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,320 a here here's my here's my present to you guys for sure 1783 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 shannon and i went hiking first time in pennsylvania after our trip 1784 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 and it wasn't quite the same doing hikes around western pennsylvania kind 1785 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 of a let down after you've done hiking in new england yeah 1786 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 yeah i i can see that although we didn't talk about it 1787 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i didn't want to say that one of the things that we 1788 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 didn't mention about the nice thing about living in pennsylvania and pittsburgh 1789 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 in particular is so if you live there in vermont or up 1790 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 there there's kind of one way in you can get stuff but 1791 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 there's a narrower way to get things to there whereas we're in 1792 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 a much more centralized location so it's a lot easier to get 1793 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 a hold of more stuff where we are and quicker so if 1794 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 nothing else we are kind of in the middle of a of 1795 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 a big you know mercantile area which helps us a lot when 1796 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 we want to get stuff yeah i think she's like but the 1797 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 mountains yeah the hiking the yeah i'd take i'd trade it yeah 1798 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 i'd definitely trade it for me being outdoors in maine and i'm 1799 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 like i don't want to just be on the grid i i 1800 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 want to be the grid would you like yeah i'll drink not 1801 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 a fan did you think it was bad or just not super 1802 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 into it just not super into it i didn't think it was 1803 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 bad but i i i get it you know reserve your sobriety 1804 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 for stuff that you you think you're going to really love yeah 1805 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 so that makes sense this is again the twin barns four the 1806 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 fourth anniversary it's got a big four on it all right let's 1807 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 let's stagger the ipas this time let's go to a farmhouse oh 1808 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 good that's a good idea all right bellflower brewing company this was 1809 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 one in portland that we hit up their brewery i believe is 1810 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 outside no it says in portland here OK we were going to 1811 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 say they brew out they literally brew outside no no it seems 1812 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 like a lot of the places in portland have they're tap rooms 1813 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 and have places elsewhere seen how a bunch of that when we 1814 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 were doing those breweries which one is this one bellflower this is 1815 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 do you remember the beer name that's what i'm asking is he 1816 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 is looking at it i'm sorry farmhouse farmhouse or it's called bellflower 1817 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 farmhouse sale oop that was me i apologize need to turn off 1818 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the error message no it is farmhouse i don't i drank one 1819 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 of these last week and i got my hands smacked save these 1820 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 for the show i just told you you gotta save one yeah 1821 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,280 i'm exaggerating all that OK so bellflower parm the pappy bellflower farmhouse 1822 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 six percent and everything else is just this is what your old 1823 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 taste which i'm not going to bother to read because that's not 1824 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i want to learn myself the the color i will have to 1825 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 say it's not as dark gold as the last one it's a 1826 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 much lighter yeah it almost has like a whitbeer kind of color 1827 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it does it's not quite as white as a whitbeer but it 1828 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 has some opacity to the the cloudiness yeah yeah it's cloudiness it's 1829 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 not a hazy like a hazy IPA and it's funny you say 1830 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 wet and as soon as i knows it like i smell a 1831 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 whit beer well you're going to smell a lot of the similar 1832 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 characteristics right you're going to smell a big wheat part of the 1833 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 green bills wheat in this that's common for a lot of farmhouse 1834 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 sales and then the yeast likely not a whitbear yeast but it's 1835 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 going to be a more rustic sazolan yeast or something like that 1836 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 they're going to be in the same extended family kind of flavor 1837 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 wise right and then i haven't tasted yet but you know you 1838 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 might not probably doesn't have coriander and orange peel and things like 1839 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 that added to it the rusticness of this comes through 'cause i 1840 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 mean i smell this and i'm imagining like an old farmhouse fence 1841 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 so there's like a a dusty mustiness coming out of it i'm 1842 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 smelling the inside of a clean barn i'm not saying a dirty 1843 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the the wood and the the hay you know that combination of 1844 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 those two i'm actually getting like a buckwheat kind of aroma where 1845 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 it's like a little more otay chewy and kind of brown smelling 1846 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 compared to a wheat all right otay as buckwheat would say oh 1847 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 you're not saying OT like there's oats in it no no i'm 1848 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 saying like eddie murphy on saturday night live when he did buckwheat 1849 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 character OT we're old under the flavour sweeter than i thought it'd 1850 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 be the malt comes through it has kind of like almost like 1851 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 a marmalade toast type flavor marmalade toast you're on is only there 1852 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 but i think that i think you're in the right like zone 1853 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 but i think you're that's also coming across melanie like the lot 1854 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 melon E like the last beer also like there's like almost like 1855 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 melon jelly or something on it did you say marmalade yeah because 1856 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i'm thinking definitely like a cracker with something on it yeah it 1857 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 doesn't have it doesn't really carry the orange part that's not really 1858 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 what i was going for more of just the vibe of toasty 1859 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 bread with some jelly on it yeah OK then then i guess 1860 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 we're you're in the right zone what's that flavor though it's it's 1861 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 not orange well i take back what i said it's a cantaloupe 1862 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 but no i think it's a really faint i'm tasting faintly tasting 1863 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 apricot OK OK so if you pictured an apricot jam and you 1864 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 just barely put some on your toast spread it really really really 1865 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 thin OK yeah i do think that's a good call i i 1866 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 see that there that that's there there's something as more like in 1867 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 terms of melon there's a little bit of honeydew in there i 1868 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 think yeah i'm not getting like a singular fruit here there's more 1869 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 of a combination there's might might be a little bit of like 1870 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 lychee yeah i could i could see that or even like dragon 1871 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 fruit along those lines for sure so LK ninety nine is another 1872 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 thing no apparently it is a long standard ordinary diamagnetic possibly diamagnetic 1873 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 metal a diamagnetic metal means that it can expel it can expel 1874 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 magnetic fields so you can get things to float on and if 1875 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 you if you have the magnetic lined right but you're not expending 1876 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 any energy by doing that by the way it it it's just 1877 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 sort of it it's like it's like resting something on top of 1878 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 a what's a good physical analogy for this because basically it's it's 1879 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 resting on top of the field lines so it's not doing any 1880 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 energy it's just being held yeah well i mean i guess the 1881 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 closest thing to say it's like a table right the table is 1882 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 holding this this glass up against gravity but it's not doing any 1883 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it's not putting any energy into the fact that it's doing that 1884 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 right yeah now the paper was retracted yeah i guess the guy 1885 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 's getting the team 's getting you know investigated so i don't 1886 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 know what i know that one of the papers from the guys 1887 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 was attracted i don't know if the LK ninety nine paper itself 1888 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 was attracted but i don't think it was published by i don't 1889 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 think it was even published yet or it wasn't published by like 1890 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 a prestigious journal but physical review letters which is a very prestigious 1891 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 journal did retract one of like the main guy 's papers so 1892 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 yeah people get excited about flashes in the pan all the time 1893 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 and you know i'm used to seeing it happen in my in 1894 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 the field that i study in particle physics so i'm really skeptical 1895 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 about anything that happens in there i'm i was of course less 1896 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 skeptical about LK ninety nine for kind of a couple reasons one 1897 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 of which was it's not my field and the other one was 1898 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 the ease of of testing it because it was relatively according to 1899 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 the the stuff that was on there and the stuff that i 1900 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 read it was like really easy for people to test this thing 1901 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 so there wouldn't be a whole lot of time between whether we 1902 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 knew this was legit or not yeah i started to talk about 1903 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 this couple episodes ago but we got off track i was watching 1904 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 a youtube series a youtube show about element hunting and thus the 1905 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 scandals there there's you know there's like three main places that discover 1906 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 all these super heavy elements you got brookhaven right yeah there's one 1907 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 berkeley berkeley there's one in germany and then the what in russia 1908 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 what in russia so berkeley kind of hired away this guy viktor 1909 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 ninov from the german group and long story short this guy it 1910 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 just compulsive with falsifying information to to get to the discoveries you 1911 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 know so berkeley had huge egg on their face like like because 1912 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 he claimed like three or four of the you know like you 1913 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 know like one O seven until one fourteen someone in there like 1914 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 that he had found it but then they went back and looked 1915 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 at the data it was all falsified that's bad because so when 1916 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 you're element hunting for for those who are in the now and 1917 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 like for shannon i'm sure you don't really are up on how 1918 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 many of this works but you're you're throwing you're throwing someone nucleus 1919 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 in another hoping that there's going to be a fusion and that 1920 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 you know that's going to be an extraordinarily unstable atom and it's 1921 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 going to decay so you know what what you're what's going to 1922 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 be left behind and you're looking for what's going to be left 1923 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 behind you're familiar with the periodic table of elements a little bit 1924 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 absolutely and so like right now it goes up to like one 1925 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 twelve or so but everything after one fifteen one eighteen i think 1926 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 one eighteen is the is the last one that was OK confirmed 1927 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 but everything in the hundreds i don't know exactly where like something 1928 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 that's stable but they decay right away so what these people do 1929 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 is they find two combinations of elements that when they slim them 1930 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 together they make these big elements or they make something the keys 1931 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 in through this big element kind of thing and you're throwing not 1932 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 like one you're throwing like a bajillion of these you're stripping off 1933 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 the electrons you're throwing up bajillion of these nuclei at other nuclei 1934 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 and just hoping that one of them or maybe two of them 1935 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 will hit in just the right way because they're both positively charged 1936 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 there's lots of reasons why this you know this is exacting difficult 1937 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,240 work to do and requires like really calibrated machines really pure environments 1938 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 you know as pure a vacuum as possible it's interesting because there's 1939 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 different recipes you can use to try to get these big elements 1940 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 like einsteinium is like one of the biggest elements i think it's 1941 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 einsteinium that lasts long enough that you could throw other things at 1942 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 it get anything bigger than einsteinium will decay before you have enough 1943 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 time to throw things at it so like they start they have 1944 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 einsteinium sitting there microseconds and then they use like and then they 1945 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 use like cobalt or something and they're or maybe even bigger i 1946 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 forget but they throw that so like you can't use element like 1947 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 one O eight and throw element one O eight at it to 1948 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 try to get element two hundred sixteen or whatever because neither of 1949 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 them last long enough for the experiment to happen so so let's 1950 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 say you're trying to get element one twenty well you could in 1951 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 theory i guess try to throw sixty at sixty right but i 1952 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 don't think that would work for some reason there's there's lots of 1953 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 real weird nuclear physics reasons why they pick the ones that they 1954 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 do but the the numbers should add up to what you're trying 1955 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to get and then you know based on the information that the 1956 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 math tells you what it will decay into and so then you 1957 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 what you do is you try to measure and see if those 1958 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 because you you obviously once that happens and again it falls apart 1959 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 in you know microseconds or or even less it so what you're 1960 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 looking for is then the daughter elements the decay of of the 1961 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 of that will produce right proportion of these other things it gives 1962 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 you the finger you were there you know that kind of thing 1963 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 got you so it's a lot of really difficult exacting work but 1964 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 because you know what you're expecting if you wanted to fake it 1965 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 you presumably could and and there is sort of a on some 1966 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 level an honor system that you're not doing that kind of part 1967 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 of what he was doing was to try to get dibs because 1968 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 i think i think it was we'll get there sooner or later 1969 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 and sooner is better so i want to falsify the information in 1970 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 case another lab gets it we can have dibs on discovering it 1971 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 and which one was this one because i didn't know this is 1972 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the berkeley lab victor nino so he he just got you know 1973 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 once he was found out he strum down to the industry so 1974 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 yeah because because it it's built on the honor system that honor 1975 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 system is very rigorously enforced so if if you're found of violating 1976 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 that then you are just out that's why a lot of studies 1977 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 they try they do Dubbel blind or they don't even get a 1978 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 chance to look at the information or they code it in a 1979 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 way so that they only can so that they gather all the 1980 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 information with their machines and it's then like coded before they even 1981 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 look at it and then they later much later when when all 1982 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 the experiments are done then they they decoded and see whether they 1983 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 did it or not so they're so they're not influenced by learn 1984 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 what have happened the craziest bias today that that american that people 1985 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 have what's that they prefer letters on the right side of the 1986 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 keyboard versus letters on the left side of the keyboard really it 1987 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 started before nineteen ninety names that were chosen for children uses letters 1988 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 from both sides of the keyboard fairly equally and after nineteen ninety 1989 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 skews hard to the right side of the keyboard but that's not 1990 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 the only piece of evidence there are just if you take surveys 1991 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 of you know do you like a or you better you know 1992 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 like stuff like that like it wades out the right side of 1993 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 the keyboard for right and left handed people i mean there are 1994 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 two good vowels on the left side of the keyboard A and 1995 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 E so you think that those are good yeah you would but 1996 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 i'm thinking about yeah you were a type we're we're i mean 1997 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 i'm just yeah i'm thinking about how much faster i am tristan 1998 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 's a left handed name tyler 's middle and max is mostly 1999 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 left handed although the M 's all the way on the right 2000 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 hand side victoria 's kind of mixed too so you don't fall 2001 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 into the things too much i'm a lefty i'm a lefty for 2002 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 sure although technically i'm i'm gregory so there is if you put 2003 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it in jeffrey i'm totally in the middle of the keyboard put 2004 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 in jeffrey i'm totally left sided keyboard i mean not not a 2005 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 hundred percent i don't like stewardess right or you know stewardess is 2006 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 all left handed longest left handed word i didn't realize it was 2007 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 the longest left handed word i've never really paid attention but i'm 2008 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 just thinking about when i type like which hand is more dominant 2009 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 and you know which one i type faster with which side of 2010 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the keyboard i'm faster on and i guess it probably is the 2011 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 right and rexta is all left handed so if you know anybody 2012 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 named rexta rexta i don't know the the the so the the 2013 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 qwerty layout i just learned that so i was like listening to 2014 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 radio lab and that's where they threw this nugget out about how 2015 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 there's a bias this weird bias that like there's not a good 2016 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 hypothesis why but in in like china where the the the story 2017 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 is mostly about how china was able to do the different methods 2018 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 of getting all of the chinese characters into a computer typed in 2019 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 through a keyboard and stuff like that but like there's not a 2020 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 similar bias there but where there's qwerty keyboards are common in like 2021 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 europe germany england that they all have the right letter by right 2022 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 letter bias and we we read left to right so it's kind 2023 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 of this is doubly weird weird or the and this also could 2024 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 be like a correlation is not equal to causation type thing it'd 2025 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 be interest like and then like so like when the qwerty keyboard 2026 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 was organized you know we've always heard the story that they had 2027 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 to mix up the letters yeah so what i understand a lot 2028 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 of stories about that are BS or at least are challenged so 2029 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 here's the new story that i've heard is the word typewriter is 2030 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 all on the top row because typewriter salesman couldn't really type but 2031 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 they wanted to demonstrate it really fast no that's that's no i 2032 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i i i believe that that is something that's out there i 2033 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 don't know whether that's something that's true that does that has that 2034 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 flavor of being something that people made up after the fact yeah 2035 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 OK so should we move on to something else yeah another idea 2036 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 and the ping pong back and forth here this one 's the 2037 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 definitive brewing company stainless oasis stainless oasis from definitive yes i believe 2038 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 this is another one that i got my hand slapped for what 2039 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 you got to save one of those for the show i mean 2040 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 you know and you don't want to be tainted you want to 2041 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 like not know what this tastes like it's coming in kind of 2042 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 OK this is definitive stainless oasis i'm being more careful pouring now 2043 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i got all three glasses here and i'm just going to pour 2044 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 like an ounce in each and so we all get the same 2045 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 strata without having to so when you say definitive how definitive are 2046 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 you talking that's pretty definitive i mean there's no yeah these guys 2047 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 are also in portland another hazy shock shocker it'll be the last 2048 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 show where i'm trying to get these hazies out while they're still 2049 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 fresh sorry it's just too much i mean i i'm jaded about 2050 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 it now i can't deny it when i everything is hazies and 2051 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 i just i look for more there's so much downstairs though that's 2052 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 not it's just that we had to get these out first i 2053 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 know i know i understand but no we have a ton of 2054 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 beer from oxbow we're going to be doing an oxbow here next 2055 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 i'm wearing the shirt is that what that shirt is yes OK 2056 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 say the back OK yeah so it's got so i'm stating does 2057 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 that mean yeah yeah i was not i don't know for some 2058 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 reason i didn't know oxbow 's reputation oh we'll talk about that 2059 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 when we drink the oxbow could you there's so many breweries around 2060 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 there how could you know everybody 's reputation i feel like there's 2061 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 there's too many of your reasons there have to be whales anymore 2062 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 well it was on our discord and i was talking about where 2063 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 we were and someone said you got to go down a couple 2064 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 blocks to oxbow and we're actually going to we're going to probably 2065 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 cut the night short before we went there and like no you 2066 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 got to go so like a discord listener or discord participants another 2067 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 reason to join our discord and now the sticker is on my 2068 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 laptop the definitive sticker i don't know about you all but that 2069 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 sounds funny gets i'm describing the same thing but apricot jumps out 2070 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 can i smell yours i smell mine i'm getting more like guava 2071 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 definitely smells different than mine doesn't it yeah i poured it did 2072 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 you guys see how i smell mine no i i'm i'm not 2073 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 i'm not arguing i'm just saying that weirdly we're not getting exactly 2074 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 the same experience yeah i had all three glasses in a triangle 2075 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 and poured it a little bit in each glass and just went 2076 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 around in a circle that's crazy that we don't have the same 2077 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 beer guess not as lively in the noses as the one that 2078 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 you had i'm just trying to pick through it and i'm getting 2079 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 mostly malt i'm getting like tropicals like subtle tropicals like guava dragon 2080 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 fruit actually we just went on to the flavor and and i 2081 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 think you know dragon fruit is not really that flavorful of a 2082 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 fruit but i am totally tasting it in this beer kind of 2083 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 that like mix between dragon fruit leaning towards pear there's a pear 2084 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i i feel grapes actually pear definitely pear now i've only had 2085 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 dragon fruit like what once or twice it has another one has 2086 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 kind of a melody texture to it it it it's you know 2087 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 it's in the it's in that ballpark of lychee and water chestnut 2088 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 like all those things with subtle flavors yeah it's it's it's a 2089 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 lot like tomato salt makes a difference OK i don't think i've 2090 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 ever had it with salt i've had watermelon with salt another one 2091 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 where yeah we were watching something on youtube and threw our they 2092 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 suggested putting cracked pepper on watermelon oh yeah that fucking delicious of 2093 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 course never knew oh yeah no it's amazing yeah it is because 2094 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 pepper is how would you describe pepper pepper is everyone 's had 2095 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 pepper but like it's got so it's it's got a bit of 2096 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 spice to it and woodiness and it does help to it has 2097 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 it's got that oiliness which then can bring in other it can 2098 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 it can use that aromatic oiliness to bring in other flavors and 2099 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 sort of elevate them vanilla ice cream pepper is fantastic on vanilla 2100 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 ice cream i haven't had that but i'll never have watermelon again 2101 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 without pepper that's for sure i mean when i have the opportunity 2102 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 to put pepper on it fresh yeah it has to be fresh 2103 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 yeah yeah the if you get like dried pepper in a that's 2104 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 that's little more than cardboard i really like this one this is 2105 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 nice and drinkable there's a hint of vanilla in there too there 2106 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 is that's a good call yeah this one 's super tasty drinkable 2107 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 because it has the subtle tropical flavors to it you know it's 2108 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 not the bitterness is low at least the parent bitterness is low 2109 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 yeah this is nice and drinkable i really do enjoy this one 2110 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 for an IPA right for an IPA for new england IPA this 2111 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 is the definitive stainless oasis so you you put in the notes 2112 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 this new horizons thing do you want to talk about that yeah 2113 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 listener of the show at least former listener i should probably tell 2114 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 him we're doing it again because he hasn't commented and then he 2115 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 was a huge fan of the show john daigle the guy we 2116 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 met down at aslan yeah yeah in DC that on the way 2117 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 back from the beach at one time he sent an email i 2118 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 was BCC don't i don't know if you got it but i 2119 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 think he works for one of the organizations that putting on this 2120 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 petition it's it's about extending or NASA has decided to cut the 2121 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 budget for the extended mission of new horizons which is the space 2122 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 probe that flew past pluto in twenty nineteen and also that flew 2123 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 past one of the kuiper belt objects yeah contact binary i forget 2124 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 what it was called but it it was it looked kind of 2125 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 gold snowman it was an a native american name for sky i 2126 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 forget which which tribe but so they decided to they're going to 2127 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 hibernate the machine but they're going to contract out or let the 2128 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 contract run out for the team the science team and then replace 2129 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it with a heliocentric science team and it's said that you know 2130 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 OK new horizons could be reactivated but it'll be doing heliocentric science 2131 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 and not like voyager and not key KBO science you know kuiper 2132 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 belt object science and he wants petitions signed i was just i 2133 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 like i don't know like i was hoping for like a strong 2134 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 case of why science is better for the KBO study i i 2135 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 kind of wonder if it was you know like his company is 2136 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 you know APR type thing for the the current science team or 2137 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 something you know i'm not sure what's your feeling on it i 2138 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 mean a machine probe where all the instruments are still working and 2139 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 there's fuel it seems a shame to not use it i don't 2140 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i don't have a good idea on which brand of science is 2141 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 better i don't know well i was wondering what you think like 2142 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 how what do you think about well so while planetary science and 2143 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 cosmology is not the field that i put a lot of effort 2144 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 into studying it is a field that i'm very interested in and 2145 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i and i consider myself beyond a layman in it and i 2146 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 love love planetary exploration robotic planetary i'm a huge fan i have 2147 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 a chart on my wall of planetary exploration from things and i 2148 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 think new horizons are fantastic spacecraft and really cool stuff and this 2149 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 this petition when you sent it to me and i read it 2150 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i was embarrassed OK and i felt it was shameless let me 2151 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 read what it says here with budget constraints NASA has decided to 2152 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 cut funding for new horizons and cease its kuiper belt exploration starting 2153 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 october first twenty twenty four fiscal year twenty twenty five NASA also 2154 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 intends to recompete the new horizon science team in early september replacing 2155 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 them with a lower cost heliophysics team after the global accolades is 2156 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 that fair funding for the spacecraft may not be restored at some 2157 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 point after fiscal year may be restored at some point after fiscal 2158 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 twenty twenty five but as a heliophysics vision mission not explain the 2159 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 kuiper belt unless this is reversed the kuiper belt mission would be 2160 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 ended prematurely to save single digit millions of dollars even though the 2161 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 team believes they are important scientific investigations to complete every belt represents 2162 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 the vast majority of solar just a mass to sustain a future 2163 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 space training civilization and take humanity for the stars that last sentence 2164 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 is just fucking bullshit the kuiper belt is gigantic it's this gigantic 2165 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 area in terms of space because it's it's beyond neptune and you 2166 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 know it's tilted with respect to to the incline the solar system 2167 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 and it's and it's huge but it's also got like nothing in 2168 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 it it's basically empty i mean they kind of got pretty lucky 2169 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to do that second flight do the second flight they they had 2170 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 no idea that that thing was out there when they launched you 2171 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 know they found that with hubble a couple years before the fly 2172 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 by but there has been a consistent effort to find something else 2173 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 for this to go to and nothing has been found because there's 2174 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 nothing there and there's certainly not enough fuel on the craft to 2175 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 to get anywhere close to anything that we know about and a 2176 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 helio physics mission seems like a really good use for the spacecraft 2177 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 now that it's at the point where there's nothing really it can 2178 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 reach i mean that's what i was looking for i didn't know 2179 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i mean this obviously is one side of the story like what 2180 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 you just read it's very agenda well the the thing that really 2181 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 embarrassed me was after the global accolades is that fair now just 2182 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 like what the fuck does that mean is that fair is life 2183 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 fair is that fair the god global accolades for the science is 2184 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 doing and now it can transition into doing a science that it's 2185 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 in the position to do some good science for what i i 2186 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 now i i understand the angle that look you know it's hard 2187 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 out there for a post doc if these kuiper belt guys want 2188 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 to have a job but that's not what really what this is 2189 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 saying this through this is trying to appeal on a much broader 2190 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 basis of of of like like the last thing about how this 2191 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 is the mass to sustain future space bearing civilization there there won't 2192 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 be space bearing civilization that's nonsense take humanity to the stars humanity 2193 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 is not going anywhere we got one planet that's it dumb and 2194 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 buzzkill mister star trek saying that what the hell man i think 2195 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 this is this is entirely the right decision and i feel like 2196 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 if you want to send something else to the kyber belt i'm 2197 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 all for it right let's send more crafts to the kyber belt 2198 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 to explore but make this thing into a heliophysics thing because yeah 2199 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 we could use more heliophysics probes there's more science to be done 2200 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 there this thing is on a hyperbolic trajectory it's going outside of 2201 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 the solar system not as fast as voyager is but it still 2202 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 will hit those same things it's better to have multiple data points 2203 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 than just one it's got more advanced tech on it when i 2204 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 was after i saw this i'm like OK i want to know 2205 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 like what's the what's the A side science and the B side 2206 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 science i didn't get i did get i got distracted didn't find 2207 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 that answer but i found NASA has this really cool visualization where 2208 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 you can orbit around the solar system it shows you where all 2209 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 the probes are and how pioneer tens like zipping off that way 2210 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 and i think we should make use of new horizons while we 2211 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 have it in the best way possible and i do think that 2212 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 is definitely a helio physics mission so sorry john i'm i'm not 2213 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 buying it what's next next is beard beer de coupage OK i'm 2214 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 going to have a to to look at the label there to 2215 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 from shilling beer company i did think it was B I E 2216 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 R E so i was right there beer de coupage they're the 2217 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 capols first shows up in the french and we were doing the 2218 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 rainy day beers in new hampshire OK that was that place place 2219 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 where we sat at that little sidebar had the pizza i think 2220 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 or down by the river or was busy at the bar where 2221 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 is it the sidebar that little counter yeah where we were staring 2222 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 at the boats in the marina no no is that we had 2223 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 a oyster there in new hampshire on the road oh in new 2224 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i'm sorry new hampshire on a rainy day so what is The 2225 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 The Bruery here because there are lots of beer to compose shilling beer 2226 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 company shilling shilling shilling SCH yeah OK so looking at the first 2227 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 thing that came up was actually funk factory brewing where where they 2228 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 say beer de capage is a phrase that first shows up in 2229 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 french brewing tax from eighteen hundreds and is used to describe the 2230 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 process of blending old and young beer together i believe it says 2231 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 here a blend of young saison and two years spontaneous interesting OK 2232 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 so the google for beer de capage don't shake it up too 2233 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 much i'm just trying to look at the label oh stop tilting 2234 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it oh gosh we don't want the yeast tilt oh that's got 2235 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 nice aroma to it OK five point five percent alcohol by volume 2236 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 a wild yeast is obviously being used in this one dude sorry 2237 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,880 i'm looking i'm reading it this was brewed march twenty twenty three 2238 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 you just want to stir up all the funk in the bottom 2239 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 i want this big funk yeah a blend of a young saison 2240 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,600 and a two year age spontaneous beer what is this the amanusuk 2241 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 room i don't know you got to google too many OS in 2242 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 that word spell that out for me A M M O N 2243 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 O O S U C OK so it's a river in new 2244 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 hampshire yeah the one that this brewery was on yeah see that's 2245 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 The The Bruery right there that's what we were right there you recognize 2246 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 that if this bottle was sitting down there on the shelf with 2247 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 the wine and everything else i would think that was a bottle 2248 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 of wine that that bit label pipe right i mean this is 2249 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 not a pipe in other words this is not the free rate 2250 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 this is the picture of it like you've even seen the picture 2251 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 whereas the pipe and it says under under it in french this 2252 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 is not a pipe no yeah yeah this smells really this this 2253 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 picture yeah yeah all right actually i i i always wanted to 2254 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 get this and i should i keep forgetting to but this was 2255 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 the thing i want to hang up on my on my wall 2256 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 because i like the the artistic expression of the idea which is 2257 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 don't mistake the bat for the place while this is a picture 2258 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 of a pipe this is not a pipe so you weren't there 2259 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 OK mister pedantic that's it i'm going to get some more ipas 2260 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 so we're going to drink all ipas so the room on this 2261 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 one what we got going on there it's kind of like a 2262 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 granity there's did you say granite yeah granite OK like kind of 2263 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 like a granite of stash wine yeah yeah like a stone dust 2264 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 there's a little bit of like washed drying cheese aroma like gloomy 2265 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 rind speaking of which greg i got some jasper hill cheese that 2266 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i brought back and i forgot the last time so yeah i 2267 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 get a post show we'll be bringing out having some cheese cheese 2268 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 actually we'll go really good with this let me i say bring 2269 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 it out so i think that wash rind cheese is a really 2270 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 good call especially rind cheese and is maybe one that has like 2271 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 that's been soaked in in wine or something like that isn't that 2272 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 what that is well you can get like salt wash rind when 2273 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 i'm getting those notes but there's there's something else because there's that 2274 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 that tartness and that sharpness definitely i mean it could easily mistake 2275 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 it for a sour like a a really sour just without tasting 2276 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 it i mean i haven't tasted no me neither but but for 2277 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 sure there's there's definitely like there's there's lactobacillus in there there is 2278 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 you know some spontaneously fermented so there's lots of of good stuff 2279 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 in there there's acetobacter which is what makes like acetic acid like 2280 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 a vinegar yeah that's what it's reminding me of what's that his 2281 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 kombucha his kombucha sure that's the familiar snob there's also kind of 2282 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 a sourdough thing in there right and i'm going to be sad 2283 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 OK there's a breadiness under there yeah the yeasty there's definitely like 2284 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 a sourdough bread a really sourdough with a lot of flour you 2285 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 know how sometimes you get a loaf of bread that has that 2286 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 excessive amount of flour fresh from the bakery and you hope that 2287 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 flour has been cooked so it doesn't just taste like just raw 2288 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 flour yeah OK well i'm going to i'm diving in yeah right 2289 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 yeah so it's not ridiculously sour there's sour notes there yeah it's 2290 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 just but it's not like oh my god this is like puckering 2291 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 me up sour no the sour is is just i mean this 2292 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 is blended right so there's clearly i bet the what it was 2293 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 blended into was really sour but then there's a cezon in here 2294 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 that lightens that up and and gives it more of a a 2295 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 balance a balance and and and that sort of dusty note that 2296 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 cezon 's can give along with a little bit of a floral 2297 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 note like this dandelion coming out to me yeah especially near the 2298 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 end maybe like escarole or something something with like a bitter green 2299 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 no adam 's too shabby i think this would i'm definitely looking 2300 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 forward to the cheese that jeff is cutting because i think this 2301 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 would go really well with the cheese all right so i'm going 2302 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 to tell you the names of the cheeses take or open up 2303 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 tabs or whatever opening up tabs you know from jasper hill jasper 2304 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 hill one is harbison H A R B I S O N 2305 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 tell repeat that again please harbison yep spell it please H A 2306 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 R E H I S O N B I as in boy 2307 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 yeah harbison harbison gotcha right the second one is oma oma oma 2308 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 oh my god omar and the third one 's willoughby willoughby that 2309 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 reminds me of a a oh that's a nice B to take 2310 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 a picture that's for our discord there's a song it's reminding me 2311 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 of here let me get some of the videos in the background 2312 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 your ticket OK i'll take another one that's fine so we have 2313 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it i hope that the AI is taking care of all the 2314 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 weird sounds that are coming out of us all right with crunchy 2315 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 crunch crunch OK all right so before we have any of the 2316 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 cheeses jeff give a taste of this beer OK yeah all right 2317 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 lavalier reattached the beer de coupage beer de coupage yeah that's awesome 2318 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 it it's really well blended yeah because you can tell it's a 2319 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 big sour in there that's being blended out with the saison to 2320 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 to even it out and to to make it less although i'd 2321 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 love to try i mean like i i bet the the sour 2322 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 is kind of like a a K M F the incontinent mother 2323 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 funk type craziness yeah now it has it has kind of that 2324 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 mineraliness and the sour kind of elastic sour from the sour and 2325 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 then the saison i think it's providing a little bit of more 2326 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 body i'm getting a little bit of lemoniness from it yeah i 2327 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 think that's it all right so this one is oma this one 2328 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 's willoughby that is harvested so the yeah so that the one 2329 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 that is the the least gooey hit the hardest of them which 2330 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 is not particularly hard is the ola this is a organic pasteurized 2331 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 cow milk cheese with a rush rind tomei in the cow like 2332 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 tommy arthur i guess i don't know what tommy means i don't 2333 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 know the cows are from von trapp oh breed the vulgar brewery 2334 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 so not only do they brew they also brew cows breed brew 2335 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 and breed they brew and breed i don't know about this i'm 2336 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 not into soft cheeses soft cheeses all that much you're missing out 2337 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 just a texture i have a problem with can't do it can't 2338 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 do it i mean you're allowed more for us yeah so jasper 2339 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 hill is in the same area of vermont as where hill farmstead 2340 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 is they don't have tours or anything like that they've been awesome 2341 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 about a cheese making tour and i found out about it when 2342 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i was looking at the hill farmstead website they're like you know 2343 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 things to do nearby and they're like jasper hill doesn't have things 2344 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 but if you go to the general store in town they carry 2345 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 the cheeses there so after we went to hill farmstead we stopped 2346 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 at the general store got the cheeses got some coffee anything else 2347 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i don't remember i think that was it so the tamay if 2348 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 savay i'm i'm sure i'm nailing that pronunciation is it's a natural 2349 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 rind lumpy and brown the textures they have crushed velvet it's got 2350 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 a little bit of crunch to it i figured that was just 2351 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 salt crystals forming and gave it the crunch it also has it 2352 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 changes the flavor because it is as a real earthiness to the 2353 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 rest of it which again this was a this last one is 2354 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 actually wrapped in birch so but this is OK cheese kraft cheese 2355 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 radio very nutty like like deep nut like like bigger than walnut 2356 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 like something really nutty i think walnuts where i'm like i'm not 2357 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 sure bigger nut is i think of a brazil nut but they 2358 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 don't really carry much flavour i think no i mean like deeper 2359 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 nutty flavours you know on top of that i mean i'm it's 2360 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 a tangy it's cow 's milk cheese right so there's a a 2361 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 bit of a grassy flavor to it big tang to it when 2362 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,880 you bring the rind in you get more you get more crusty 2363 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 flavors a little bit like a focaccia so how's it mixing with 2364 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 this villade colbage be honest not great i think they're they're kind 2365 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 of playing against each other as opposed to marrying i do get 2366 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 some more multi flavors from this yes the fatty the fattiness of 2367 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 the cheese is taking away from the the acidity so the maltier 2368 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 flavors of this will come out more yeah so we have this 2369 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 beer too so we can save some cheese to compare with this 2370 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 one which is another blend of twenty nineteen twenty twenty spontaneous fermented 2371 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 farmhouse sales we're just going to go from runnier cheese to runnier 2372 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 cheese and i love it i'm a big fan like this to 2373 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 me is heaven so yeah so you probably know this i don't 2374 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 know if you know this but this cheese might just be runnier 2375 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 because it's has more age on it a lot of these cheeses 2376 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 will start out more firm and then as they i mean based 2377 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 on based on what i'm seeing here now like the harvison is 2378 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 going to be running like that and the willoughby is less runny 2379 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 but more runny than the oma the oma doesn't have a eat 2380 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 by date the willoughby says enjoy by the thirtieth of september i 2381 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 mean i mean it's a long it's a long lifetime you know 2382 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 like it's not a couple weeks it's and then the harvesting is 2383 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 enjoy by the sixteenth of september i mean it's soured no what 2384 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 are you gonna what are you gonna do make it more soured 2385 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 like i mean i mean you can you can get a mold 2386 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 on it right but it's it's it's like when does yogurt go 2387 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 bad right i mean it's how how can you i i don't 2388 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 think that the i think i know that the FDA requires dates 2389 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 on those but i don't think those dates really tell a whole 2390 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 story if the thing is covered fuzz throw it out but if 2391 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it's not it smells like a dead body throw it out there 2392 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 are some cheeses that we'll throw like a dead body yogurt actually 2393 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 yeah i had a situation did you see adam ragusey about mold 2394 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 no i don't think so the TLDR is that there's more health 2395 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 effects like for things like bread where the mycelia can like hard 2396 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 cheeses are different you can cut the mold off and keep the 2397 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 rest but like bread if any of it's moldy you shouldn't eat 2398 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it because the mycelia will be spread out through it there's in 2399 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 a western diet it's probably not as important because you'll be getting 2400 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 a variety of molds if you eat moldy stuff but like in 2401 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 other diets where like rice mold is a thing and you kind 2402 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 of have this monoculture mold it actually has real health problems to 2403 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it stuff it's a good thing i throw brad away as soon 2404 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 as i see i do remember reading on it or hearing somewhere 2405 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 it did i i would have said no before i saw this 2406 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 and i'm like OK now i have more information i'm able to 2407 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 change my opinion so i do remember reading somewhere i don't know 2408 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 how true it is that there are no known bread and molds 2409 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 that are harmful to humans like that that that are poisonous to 2410 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 humans that's that does not mean that they will taste bad or 2411 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 perhaps give you indigestion or bad things like that but they won't 2412 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 like kill you but another thing that you know LSD comes from 2413 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 bread mold so some types of LS like it's a rye mold 2414 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,880 i would say you know try to find that episode of ragusea 2415 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 and see what he says about it and kind of you know 2416 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i bet to your base of knowledge on what's safety and what's 2417 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 not because i was at the camp of cut off the gross 2418 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 part eat the rest yeah and if you're only eating some mycelia 2419 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 occasionally it's probably still OK but there has been studies that show 2420 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 that moldy food has health complications oh my i i get it 2421 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 because right what you see is the fruiting body the mold in 2422 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 general right not not the not the moldy stuff not not the 2423 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 not the actual mold itself which is like you said the network 2424 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 of mycelia so like inbred you the whole thing can be colonized 2425 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 and you take off a couple pieces and you're still eating mold 2426 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 so more nutrition man fungus is just a part of that's what 2427 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 i would have thought until i saw this so just just watch 2428 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 it i just ate some some moldy bread all right let's go 2429 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 back to IPA bill all right this is the last brewery we 2430 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 stopped at on our trip we stopped at auburn new york right 2431 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 on the top of one of the finger lakes this is prison 2432 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 city brewing company and this is mass riot is is this is 2433 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 this a place called prison city yeah well there's there's called prison 2434 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 i guess auburn is there's a prison or something in auburn i 2435 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 i hear there's trouble right here in prison city with a capital 2436 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 T and that rhymes with P and that stands for prison i'm 2437 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 not sure what you're quoting music man music man my friend OK 2438 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 you said this is mass riot when you drank last night i 2439 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 believe so i assume that all of their things are sort of 2440 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 or not or some of at least some of their beers are 2441 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 prison some of them yeah like like their flagship ipas and stuff 2442 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 prison city i first made it on my radar this is actually 2443 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the second time i've been there when i went out with the 2444 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 ex to oma gang and whatnot these guys had won something prestigious 2445 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i don't know if it was like a silver for IPA at 2446 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 gabf or world beer cup or something but like brand new brewery 2447 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 won a thing went up there this is a nice brewery but 2448 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 they didn't have the beer that was maybe it was one of 2449 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 those who's the who's the big webzine that writes like the fifty 2450 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 best ipas isn't thrillist it but it was like something paste maybe 2451 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it was paste yeah yeah yeah but maybe that's what they were 2452 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 on like they came in like number two in like the pace 2453 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 competition and so i went up there didn't have it and then 2454 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 we were driving home on a monday and things aren't open breweries 2455 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 aren't open on mondays but this place was we had there was 2456 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 a good lunch bartender was awesome you're closing your eyes to a 2457 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 situation you do not wish to fred right here i say trouble 2458 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 right indicated by the presence of a pool table in your community 2459 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 we have to critique this you got trouble my friend right here 2460 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 i say trouble right here in river city why sure i'm a 2461 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 billiard player certainly mighty proud to say i'm always mighty proud to 2462 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 say a three rail billiard shot pocket and i call a beer 2463 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 from a bottle and listening to something out of peaceful pocket and 2464 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 i call that sloth the free maturity to score in a box 2465 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 shove a ball in a pocket dave it's a great thank you 2466 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 blood boy well i should say you wanna you got one tell 2467 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 you now friends let me tell you what i need my daddy 2468 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 boy sitting on dank blood my pockets in the table pockets and 2469 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 mark between a gentleman and a bottle and all week long get 2470 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 the ball in the dandelions for me countdown top forty with bob 2471 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 kingsley that was my that was my teeth like my childhood road 2472 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 trip hell yours was musicals right musicals and oldies lots and lots 2473 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 of oldies god and the thing is i hate oldies and i 2474 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 hated musicals at the time now i kind of love musicals especially 2475 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 clever ones but the oldies are just the fucking worst i can't 2476 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 stand them these like because it's just and then and my parents 2477 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 would listen to the beatles but they would listen to all the 2478 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 old beatles love love me do right i want to hold your 2479 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 hand my mom was the same way she listened to the pittsburgh 2480 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 oldies station and i always wondered i haven't answered this now but 2481 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i always wondered why don't bands why aren't there bands that make 2482 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 new oldies you know like that version of music either motown or 2483 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 well there no there there are bands that do that but they're 2484 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 not popular but they need the torrent and stuff that's the thing 2485 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 oldies now that i am old and i see all the bands 2486 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 when i was like a young teenager doing like guns and roses 2487 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 coming to pittsburgh here in a little bit right i have no 2488 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 interest in nineteen ninety one i wanted to go to their usual 2489 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 illusion concert tour so bad my mom wouldn't let me and i 2490 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 was so mad at her and now they're coming and i could 2491 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 go and like i don't want to see axel rose and sixty 2492 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 years old bruce springsteen 's coming too i probably bruce springsteen 's 2493 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 great y'all can go together have fun i'll find something else a 2494 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 little bit of that bruce springsteen 's i'd be happy elizabeth over 2495 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 bruce springsteen 's songs i wouldn't say like i'm not like i 2496 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 wouldn't be there for a concert but i'm not a concert guy 2497 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 anyway so i wouldn't even work at that concert yeah i have 2498 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 no interest in going to see i can't stand guns and roses 2499 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i mean what seemed metallica last year about you know we got 2500 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 to go get the you know in a luxury box and whatnot 2501 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 you know the tickets are complimentary but well and we saw greta 2502 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 van fleet that was i was really excited to see greta van 2503 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 fleet who they are nope they're a nubian they have this very 2504 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 led zeppelin sound they actually get criticism for like mimicking led zeppelin 2505 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 too much you know that kind of thing so i really like 2506 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 their album stuff like criticizing a a a sitcom for mimicking cheers 2507 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 right it's like you mimic what works yeah so i love listening 2508 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 to album and you know spotify of greta van fleet they open 2509 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 for metallica at PNC park and i don't know if it was 2510 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 it just wasn't good like i don't know it was because we 2511 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 were in the luxury box and the sound wasn't getting to us 2512 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 right or if the sound was wrong or if they're just not 2513 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 good live i don't know but it was not good well that 2514 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 can happen that was disappointing but the concert was good anyway i 2515 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 mean it was fancy metallica metallica metallica metallica the thing was there 2516 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 was a whole song when they play you know do you know 2517 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 metallica much i i i know enough i don't know one of 2518 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 course yeah yeah yeah yeah the song one was a music video 2519 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 they weren't on stage for three quarters of the song it reminds 2520 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 me of i remember i i was at i was i was 2521 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 watching with damien like ten fifteen years ago we were watching eminem 2522 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 did like a H B O thing it was like one of 2523 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 his concerts and he would come out and do like two verses 2524 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 and then there 'd be a little thing and then they 'd 2525 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 go and i was like this is like eminem the stage play 2526 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 not an eminem concert it was real weird and i was like 2527 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i don't know if i went to a concert if i'd want 2528 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to see that i think that i'd want to just see the 2529 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 songs being performed not like not a not a version of it 2530 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 yeah that i i do think that metallica brings it at a 2531 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 much heavier level than guns and roses does today so sure metallica 2532 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 's still together and guns and roses put together for this tour 2533 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 i guess i mean well OK slash and axel are back together 2534 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i'm not sure if izzy or duff or whoever else speaking of 2535 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 tours we really missed out on a concert when we were in 2536 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 vermont maybe set on a couple concerts we could have seen cake 2537 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 and we decided not to yeah but i think you didn't miss 2538 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 anything i feel like that's one of those bands that like i 2539 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i think there are a lot of bands for the nineties where 2540 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 like the songs are OK but do you like do you really 2541 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 need to go back and and or watch a blind melanin concert 2542 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 well i like cake oh i barely like blind melon i like 2543 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 cake a lot so we were at bissell brothers brewing in portland 2544 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 and it's right next to this concert venue and when we drive 2545 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 in there's already the people for directing cars to the concert and 2546 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 like the concert is it and it's like it's cake but the 2547 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 tickets would have been like aftermarket tickets so they were really paying 2548 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 like eighty five bucks a piece you know for lawn seats kind 2549 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 of thing and we were spending so much money on the trip 2550 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 and we're like you know we don't need the nah we'll buy 2551 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 more beer we don't need to work a concert into it i 2552 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 would like to see the reddit but lady gaga with the opener 2553 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 being the goo goo dolls i just think that goo goo gaga 2554 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 is gaga would be a very cool no but the concert that 2555 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 i'm talking about was the one that was going on in vermont 2556 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 her new there my musical soulmate is noah khan so he's this 2557 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 new up and coming artist he's kind of folksy kind of like 2558 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 the lumineers he's not up and coming i mean he's he's hit 2559 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it he's OK so he's just peeked OK but he recently was 2560 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 an up and comer and we were at we were in burlington 2561 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 at some of this yeah we were at foam brewers had a 2562 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 beer from them last year which interestingly enough he did a collab 2563 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,880 a collab with them and they released the beer two days prior 2564 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 and sold out just before we got there that day but we 2565 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 didn't know that anyway he he's from burlington well he's from a 2566 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 small town just outside of burlington yeah you can tell the story 2567 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 no no no i i just didn't want he did he did 2568 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 three sold out nights at the amphitheater we looked to see she 2569 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 she wasn't in love with the guy at the time knew the 2570 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 name we looked to see how much i knew i knew some 2571 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 of the songs home now he's a hall pass yeah tickets though 2572 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 on stubhub were stupid like twelve hundred dollars like basically like i 2573 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 would do it too like if some idiot wants to pay twelve 2574 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 hundred dollars for my tickets they can have them you know it 2575 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 was kind of the things that were for sale you know but 2576 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it it was really interesting so that night we decided to walk 2577 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 down to lake champlain and watch the sunset and we parked at 2578 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 this little park right you know half a block from the from 2579 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 the lake and get out of the car and we could hear 2580 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the concert from across the lake and concert yeah down the bay 2581 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 it was like down the bay and i could hear him clear 2582 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 as day but i didn't know what song it was that he 2583 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 was singing and after we got back from our trip i was 2584 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 playing some of his music and the song northern attitude came on 2585 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 and instantly i was like that's the song that we heard as 2586 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 clear as day when we were walking over to watch the sunset 2587 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,920 of course once we got to the lake the water was crashing 2588 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 and and you know you couldn't really hear it it was very 2589 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 distorted but but now you have that song to associate you with 2590 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 that memories that's really oh yeah and i mean all of his 2591 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 music is written about his life there living in in new england 2592 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 states and oh my god the red sox lost so he's he's 2593 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 mine now he's my music soul mate jeff says well i mean 2594 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 my musical soul mate your your spotify rewind was going to be 2595 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 all lumineers now it's going to be lumineers and no it's going 2596 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,200 to be a good combination of the two yes and then we 2597 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 did we have tickets to see lumineers before covid no OK the 2598 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 most just before covid he was touring with the lumineers and their 2599 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 their tour was cancelled when the pandemic hit so those two were 2600 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 actually together so it makes sense why i like both bands so 2601 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 much you know but we haven't talked about the mass riot at 2602 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 all and it's almost gone final but you're drinking it already it's 2603 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 been like twenty minutes got me talking it's got a little lemongrassy 2604 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 thing going on there very soft very round in the flavor it 2605 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 has a mix of kind of soft melanie tropical guava really drinkable 2606 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 one yeah nice and drinkable the the artist that i kind of 2607 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 recently fell in love with even though she's not new but she's 2608 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 new you know to me courtney barnett is is really great i 2609 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 have a little bit of rotation yeah this guy when we went 2610 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 to see the sunset you'd probably appreciate this we went to see 2611 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 the sunset in burlington at the park there was the burlington earth 2612 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 clock and it was stone monoliths kind of like stonehenge so they 2613 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 had stones it was a combination of sundial and seasonal thing right 2614 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 so it had stones for compass points north southeast and west head 2615 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 stones for the summer solstice and the winter solstice and the equinox 2616 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 our guest the equinox is east or west in this case because 2617 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 it was on the sunset side and then it had sundial markers 2618 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 or if you stood in the middle you know based on the 2619 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 month where your shadow went to tell you what time it was 2620 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it was really cool that's neat so we were going there for 2621 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 sunset and we were supposed to have like twenty minutes or so 2622 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 to spare but there was clouds shadow was showing me pictures there 2623 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 was clouds on the horizon which was dense and basically that was 2624 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 the horizon at that point so we were like twenty minutes short 2625 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 so like it's it's starting to like set behind the clouds and 2626 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 like i'm running to this to this clock so i get a 2627 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 picture of it between the rocks and i got like one picture 2628 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 before it dipped below the clouds oh well it was a cool 2629 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 picture it's still a cool picture but if the sky was didn't 2630 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 have clouds out on the horizon you know i would have had 2631 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 another fifteen minutes to take lots of pictures and get the perfect 2632 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 sunset thing but got one shot of a decent better than decent 2633 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 sunset at the burlington earth clock the burlington earth clock all right 2634 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 what's next mass riot was decent but kind of unremarkable good drinker 2635 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 though yes it's one of those beers where if you're having it 2636 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 on the couch watching TV or really shooting this shit really good 2637 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 beer yeah it's it's hard to be poetic about this beer i 2638 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 even had a we both had a taste of cheese i had 2639 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 a taste of the willoughby there which is wash rind cow milk 2640 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 and it kind of tasted very very similar to the oma and 2641 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 a very similar doesn't have that crunchy salt part and it's a 2642 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 little runnier but yeah it is similar all right let's do the 2643 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 oxbow this will be the first thought we bought a ton of 2644 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 oxbow so this won't be and they're all soury things but it 2645 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 won't be the last oxbow that you have greg what's the name 2646 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 of the spear this is native wild and there's probably more of 2647 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 those this is the twenty nineteen twenty twenty version do you want 2648 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 the last slip of that yeah native slash wild sure that's what 2649 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it's that's how it's native wild it's how it's presented on the 2650 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 website native slash wild this is weird there's beer on top of 2651 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 the cork so oh that's not there's a cap rate sign there's 2652 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 a cap i should probably pour that beer out yes definitely there's 2653 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 a spelled bucket right it was just like a couple of drips 2654 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 of beer but probably best oh the cork is so soft and 2655 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 supple so it was upside down for a long time so this 2656 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 is a spontaneously fermented parma sale brew with main grains aged tops 2657 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 and well water well well water well there was a well there's 2658 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 a nice there's a real pop yeah look at that that's so 2659 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 weird portland i wonder if they put water there just to make 2660 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 to give i wonder if they yeah i wonder if they put 2661 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 something on top of the cork when they tap it just to 2662 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 give it that that that extra i bet they do oxygen the 2663 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 the extra thing to make so we have to open a second 2664 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 oxbow tonight and find out so this is this is barrel aged 2665 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 it's barrel fermented and spontaneous six percent uncle by volume native micro 2666 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 flora and wild east inoculate the cooling work overnight in a traditional 2667 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 cool ship at our rural farmhouse brewery well shucks this this is 2668 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 something that i'm really really excited about oh yeah i love a 2669 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 farmhouse good love a good farmhouse nice green bottle this is as 2670 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 you said the twenty nineteen twenty twenty blend it was bottled january 2671 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 twenty twenty one and the production time to say effervescent you know 2672 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 when you smell like a soda like a lemon soda how like 2673 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the the carbonation burns your nose i get some of that on 2674 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 this where i get that kind of that lemon effervescence was a 2675 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 deep molasses thing leather leather leather yeah lemon i definitely the the 2676 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 you're right lemon have a essence there's a forest floor or something 2677 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 like that or like cattails yeah something earthy something a little dirty 2678 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 little mushroomy root beer i think it's the leather that's you smell 2679 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 really coming i mean i get the leather part but i also 2680 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 think there's there's other things there too yeah there's a hundred things 2681 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 oh definitely definitely but they just add it to the pile do 2682 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 do you smell like root beer no i'm trying so root beer 2683 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 is what is that sassafras yeah like sassafras mostly and i feel 2684 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 like there's a bit of that there yeah name what do i 2685 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 smell what do you smell have you ever bought a pull raft 2686 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 that was in a box and opened up the box that's usually 2687 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 a bad bad thing for well that's what i'm smelling yeah i'm 2688 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 not smelling using that descriptor before but never in a good way 2689 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 yeah usually that kind of aroma the plasticky thing can i spell 2690 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 yours so am i let's blend there there's a there's a bit 2691 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 of newness there right so i i see where you're getting that 2692 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 from on that but i it's not strong but it's there but 2693 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 i i don't think it's strong so i don't think it's a 2694 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 problem but yeah if he if he gets on this rubbery band 2695 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 aid that's normally a very bad sign no we've totally had the 2696 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 changing it we've totally had full raft before and so you're not 2697 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 wrong when you smell it but hopefully no last time last time 2698 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 we blended out a bad flavor we ruined everyone 's beer so 2699 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 that changed that but there is you know more beer here left 2700 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 so but still it's here's OK since we're doing this so am 2701 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 i and look for root beer oh yeah it's stronger on yours 2702 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 spell jeff 's it's not fair why is everyone 's beard different 2703 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 it's not fair OK see i love those root beer barrel candies 2704 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 and i have a package of them upstairs at my desk and 2705 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,040 i literally ate two of them today but that's like a tandy 2706 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 yeah but it's still that root i mean i love root beer 2707 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 i like root beer beer i love root beer anything i cannot 2708 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 pull i don't know i think when we when we say root 2709 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 beer we're thinking more sassafras sassafras yeah or something like that so 2710 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i went on are you any orange blossom now OK flavor be 2711 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 ready it's an acidic one it's tangy it's tart it's big oh 2712 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it makes you pucker it makes every part of your body pucker 2713 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 it has kind of that the stoniness that mineraliness it has a 2714 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 lot of us said you got that lemon just got the thing 2715 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 where it it it hits the edge of your tongue and makes 2716 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 you feel almost thirsty it has it has it has the horse 2717 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 reins you know dried out leather in a barn with some yeast 2718 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 on it it has this is where i think the cheese would 2719 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 be great because it will cut the acidity away and it'll be 2720 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 able to taste more do you want to try the willoughby no 2721 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 no no that cheese is way too soft and runny for me 2722 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 it's still a sid it's still acidic through all that it's really 2723 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 it's cutting the cheese away it does it washes that fat the 2724 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 creaminess juices almost like can't stand up to it now i actually 2725 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 really like this but it's it's a lot the the if anybody 2726 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 gets it just be prepared because that first sip is going to 2727 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 knock you it's close to like a hoosa my very first sip 2728 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 was kind of sweet tarts yeah which kind of like but i 2729 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 so people who know like my my flavor wheel that i use 2730 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 i usually save sweet tarts for flanders reds and things like that 2731 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 my first sip for this one i'm not maintaining it i'm just 2732 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 kind of giving you the progression of flavors i did taste kind 2733 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 of like lemon sweet tarts and then that second sip is where 2734 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 i got the delicious stone dust leather rustic you know dried wood 2735 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 there's a lot of complexity on here even though it is very 2736 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 acidic there's a lot of brightness here is strawberry like a really 2737 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 tart strawberry OK yeah definitely oxbow so yeah wasn't going to go 2738 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 to oxbow was top posting that we were at bellflower and there 2739 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 was this place we went to greg called we didn't bring anything 2740 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 home from them but it was called things called fermentata or they 2741 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 fermentata they mostly didn't do beer they did kombucha that was fantastic 2742 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 what else did they have god i can't even remember but basically 2743 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 all the all the the fermentation stuff that is not beer they 2744 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 did it was wild really good place we're trying to pull flavors 2745 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 out of here i think there's some ginger in here i can 2746 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 kind of see where if you think of like lemon ginger kombucha 2747 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 yes this lines up with that right so like you're on the 2748 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 it's almost well greg 's on to something or you're on to 2749 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 me it's not gingery but it's like in the mood of lemon 2750 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 ginger kombucha or is it just apple cider vinegar no no it's 2751 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 way more no i'm not saying just you didn't say just though 2752 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 i didn't say i mean we can pull up the apple cider 2753 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 's younger if you want to see how harsh that is compared 2754 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 to this i i know i mean it's acidic but it's just 2755 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 saying it's like just apple cider no i didn't mean OK i'm 2756 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 sorry i should never have said the word just didn't mean that 2757 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 the nice thing about it is is i guess i'll have sourness 2758 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 without having any like pithy notes or rindy notes there the leather 2759 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 keeps coming back for me at least in my glass that's that 2760 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 oh yeah no it's it's definitely there it's it's an undertone that 2761 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 also makes it so it's not just pure sourness leatherwood yeah but 2762 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 that's that's green that's my anchor point to like you know because 2763 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 i want that rustic i want that level of rustic in my 2764 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 blends in my sour saison thingies oh yeah this one brings it 2765 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 like most don't that's the foundation that the rest of it rests 2766 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 upon and if that wasn't there it would be very unbalanced let's 2767 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 go into the runny cheese this all run together so the the 2768 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 runny version so we just had we have the willoughby which is 2769 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 the semi runny and this is the harbison which is the very 2770 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 very runny this is like i just had bark wrapped all right 2771 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 oh my god that's so good that has more character than the 2772 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 other ones for sure it's got it's not as sour and sticky 2773 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 shannon if you think you can try it no no but no 2774 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 it's boom that's so good that's really delicious but i don't more 2775 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 have the words for for cheese as much as i do for 2776 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 beers yeah it's more subtle it doesn't have any of that really 2777 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 funk to it it's more creamy i mean there's probably a little 2778 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 funk in there but like compared to the last two it's clean 2779 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 oh there's definitely funk there but yeah it's got it's got notes 2780 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 of you know sour cream of creme fresh and stuff like that 2781 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 it's it's really tasty you know and and the fattiness goes a 2782 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 long way there's a tang that's not sour there's yeah almost like 2783 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 something from creme fresh or something like that right where you're getting 2784 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 that kind of like tanginess but it's clean it's not really lemony 2785 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 it's a little bit of like a maybe like a parsnippy note 2786 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 something some root vegetable type thing but like a roasted version of 2787 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 that and there's a little bit of like there's something things are 2788 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 there they're just distinctly cheese there is that are let me throw 2789 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 this at you maybe you let me with the roasted parsnips i 2790 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 started thinking thanksgiving but like i'm like there's a little bit of 2791 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 like dressing like you know bread like stuffing dressing you know like 2792 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 maybe it's the onions maybe it's the the seasonings that are in 2793 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 it there's definitely some yes sweet onion me thing like if you 2794 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 ever made like a sweet onion relish that comes through there yeah 2795 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 so like the sulfury note is really covered up so good it 2796 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 is really tasty if you think you can try i can't i 2797 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 mean it's basically just transformed grass but it's not it's not funky 2798 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 and weird it is you know sweet and yummy no well if 2799 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 he had a cracker and put that on it nope right i 2800 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 love her anyway bless your heart i can't wait to drink i 2801 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 can't wait to drink the rest of this oxbow in the post 2802 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 show and so damn good all right what's what's our last fear 2803 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 of the night our last fear of the night which i thought 2804 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 we already did no no yeah all right all right all right 2805 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 all right so when we were our airbnb for portland was in 2806 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 gorham yes gorham and this is the sebago brewing company barley wine 2807 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 just a it's a it's a kind of in a shopping area 2808 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 brew pub didn't have huge expectations for them but it was super 2809 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 close to the the airbnb their food was good their beers were 2810 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 pretty good but this barley wine all right so we're ending on 2811 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 a on a multi high alcohol note twelve point nine percent alcohol 2812 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 by volume oh yeah it's so much for your sobriety it's only 2813 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 a twelve ounce can yeah yeah i know i'm just got centennial 2814 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 cascade and columbus hop very classic i didn't think you'd give that 2815 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to me barley there's more that's the only reason i'm being nice 2816 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 i was i figured she would be like no FUI was grabbing 2817 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 for a glass to drink it and she gave it to me 2818 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 and she loves me all right well while you're doing that i'll 2819 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 read out the green bill on here two row malt crystal malt 2820 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 maris otter maris otter one of my favorite malt oh OK this 2821 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 is that's what's used in ES BS it's it's got this very 2822 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 bready bready but with caramel notes type thing bread pudding well i 2823 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 yeah bread pudding roasted barley wheat malt special B special B and 2824 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 main pale malt yeah so shannon posted a picture of this beer 2825 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 in this can on sebago 's google oh i did well i 2826 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 did a review a google review but like how much you got 2827 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 like you had viral yeah it was a ridiculous amount of views 2828 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 within twenty four hours i got a notification from google yeah it's 2829 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 different so we had this barley wine there and we had it 2830 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 out of the can so hopefully this one is the same it 2831 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 pours with no head it pours very dark brown beautiful beautiful the 2832 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 aroma it's it's it's really different so it really it really hits 2833 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 you strong compared to the flight that we've had but it's equal 2834 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 for me it's like equal parts bread pudding and barrel and and 2835 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the bit of campfire OK oh like like burnt marshmallow i was 2836 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 going to say toffee yeah toffee there's a little bit of like 2837 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 caramel swirl vanilla ice cream in the aroma oh that's a good 2838 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 call yeah molasses definitely the aroma brings it on it oh boy 2839 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 this smells fantastic this is the best smell of the night oh 2840 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 for sure made main my heart it's still there it's brewed for 2841 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 times like these that's what it says right there brewed for times 2842 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 like these that's a that's a weird slogan because how like i'm 2843 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 sure it's brewed all the time i don't know i mean but 2844 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i've been really missing maine today so there totally is like a 2845 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 s'more thing going on there with the kind of toasted marshmallow graham 2846 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 crack oh yeah vanilla caramel just can't fire in general there's just 2847 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 a it's like a candy bar and and this beer is not 2848 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 your crazy milkshake vanilla ice cream no this is barley wine this 2849 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 is american barley wine maybe english barley wine thrown in a bergen 2850 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 barrel not only that this has been like sitting out for like 2851 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 an hour and a half at least right so it's at a 2852 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 really good temperature oh it smells so good it's one of those 2853 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 beers where it's like just sniff sniff sniff air freshener it oh 2854 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 my god that tastes great too dark dark chocolate yes almost like 2855 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 a chocolate liqueur yes yeah with with a with a bit of 2856 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 both a chocolate you're familiar with and a chocolate that's bitter without 2857 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 going too far in either direction then the barrel comes through you 2858 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 know like right now we're all yeah in the oakiness we're having 2859 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 a punch with barrel right now now do any of you taste 2860 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 hold on let me do before i ask a question let me 2861 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 take another sip do either of you taste a hint of raspberry 2862 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,880 in that just a really really subtle hint only in the anticipatory 2863 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 thing of like this would be great with rasp with raspberries maybe 2864 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,000 that's what it is that i'm thinking 'cause i dark chocolate raspberry 2865 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 in the sense i can taste the whole that a raspberry would 2866 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 fill as opposed to an actual raspberry OK what i do taste 2867 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 is is is like a bitter chocolate like like an oreo without 2868 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the cream oh i think it's much more bitter than that i 2869 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 think it's a much darker chocolate no it is but i think 2870 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 there's a straight up oreo wafers are pretty bitter pretty better yeah 2871 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 they don't have much sweetness to them that you have to have 2872 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the cream well maybe i haven't had a straight up they're not 2873 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 popular in other countries because the crackers are too to like better 2874 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 not speed we have that's why they make Dubbel stuff because it's 2875 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 so much more cream yeah so much more like hydrox are way 2876 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 popular elsewhere because the the crackers have more so is this the 2877 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 last can that we have hydrox came before one more we do 2878 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 oh that's unfortunate why is it unfortunate you better share it with 2879 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 me because i need an excuse to go back next week buy 2880 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 some more a new story that you pointed out that we haven't 2881 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 talked about is anheuser busch selling selling shock top and blue point 2882 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to to a cannabis company they sold a bunch of brands they 2883 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 sold where is it i'm sorry i i just want to continue 2884 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 talking about this beer for a minute sure good the toffee yeah 2885 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 there's a the more it warms up the the more the flavor 2886 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 changes it just it it just there's a real heath parsing like 2887 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i think that one of the big problems that i tend to 2888 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 have with barley wine is they're too sweet this is not too 2889 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 sweet no and i think that's because isn't this is a barrel 2890 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,000 aged so i think that that's why i mean you that barrel 2891 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 aged keeps it from it's it's possible although i've had other barley 2892 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 other barrel barrel aged barley wines before that have not been this 2893 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 you know edged towards bitter which i think makes it more balanced 2894 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 some people may disagree but i think that this makes it much 2895 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 more drinkable and much more like you said toffee and sort of 2896 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the candy mar notes and and the bitterness helps to make it 2897 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 so you don't get this lingering sweetness right so they sold shock 2898 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 top breckenridge blue point ten barrel red hook Widmer Brothers square mile cider 2899 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 company and highball energy wow so basically i i mean they didn't 2900 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 sell goose island didn't sell four points or six point six point 2901 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 no four points the the one in arizona oh yeah OK yeah 2902 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i forgot about them but yeah they they dumped all i saw 2903 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 the greatest snarky comment it's like anheuser busch is able to do 2904 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 what none of those sales reps could do sell shock top did 2905 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 you notice that small batch is that what you're pointing to what 2906 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 about it small batch everything 's a small batch i mean it's 2907 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 not like they're not making a million barrels at a time so 2908 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 yeah yeah small batch is kind of a more marketing speech i 2909 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 mean the label small batch when it comes to bourbon oh sure 2910 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 the yes i mean this isn't their flagship this isn't their brown 2911 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 ale this isn't their IPA this is their barley wine they brew 2912 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 it once or twice a year but i'm sure that this this 2913 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 thing everything counts as a small batch anytime you talk about a 2914 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 bourbon barrel aged barley wine that we're oozing over like this is 2915 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 a small badge so i didn't know the label is great the 2916 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 label is very classic it has like the wheat things you know 2917 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 like the the script for the wheat thing it's it's it's it's 2918 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 not crazy schizophrenic twenty twenty craft beer beer labels but if you 2919 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 want a sound that represents the flavor it was probably something like 2920 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 this yeah comfy but also like sexy new part of the show 2921 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i think it's like since it's a podcast you know like the 2922 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 only sense the listener gets is sound we have to find songs 2923 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 that best represent the beers that sounds like a hard to ask 2924 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 i know i'm really setting this up for failure here i love 2925 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the idea it's also especially hard to do on the fly on 2926 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 the fly yeah i just happen to have a sound that matches 2927 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,040 it but it it is it's got that sexy velvety look your 2928 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 google thing how many hits did you have it was like thousands 2929 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 of years right there's yeah trying to pull it up right now 2930 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 your watch face greg has much stuff on it what is all 2931 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 on your watch face i noticed that earlier this is carrot this 2932 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 is my new weather app and it's great carrot 's great because 2933 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 dark sky has been absorbing the apple and so i used carrot 2934 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 now i didn't know whether apps had watch faces they did has 2935 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 a couple of watch faces as this one it has that one 2936 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 it has OK this one a co worker of mine asked me 2937 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 about dark skies for the perseids last weekend and it was a 2938 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 rain out so it turned out to be nothing but i showed 2939 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 him you know a dark sky map and what not and i 2940 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 mentioned the time we went up to meadville yeah and that was 2941 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 such a cool experience i think we were just talking about while 2942 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 we're drinking this beer right is greg and i wanted to go 2943 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 watch the perseids so he came up to my house in cranberry 2944 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 at eleven o'clock at night or something like that and the best 2945 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 time to watch meteor showers is after midnight because the sky above 2946 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 your head is in the space fly like the new space like 2947 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 it's it's the the bumper of the car of of the planet 2948 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 so like before midnight you don't get a ton of stuff we 2949 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 got up there i don't know what time we got up there 2950 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 but it was eleven thirty midnight something like that and you were 2951 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 driving i was in the passenger seat and the way we did 2952 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it was we had a an overlay of white pollution map and 2953 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 google maps and the overlay back then wasn't nearly as good as 2954 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 they are now the one the one i looked at last week 2955 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 was way better than the one back then and what i did 2956 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 was i found this like little dark corner out by meadville that 2957 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 was like farm fields so we i knew we could just pull 2958 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 off on the side of the road so we did exactly that 2959 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 we found this road through two cornfields pulled off on the side 2960 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 of the road and like OK we're here and i was under 2961 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 the impression like i'm still going to need some time for my 2962 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 eyes to adjust i step out of the passenger 's seat i 2963 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 look up and there's just this purple wash across the sky the 2964 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 milky way was fucking blazing at me like and my eyes weren't 2965 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 even adjusting yet and so we set up some chairs and we 2966 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 were looking up at the sky and we started to see some 2967 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 meteors it was really good we probably saw thirty forty an hour 2968 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 something like that yeah and but at one thirty it got foggy 2969 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 not just cloudy foggy and that was the end of it so 2970 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 but yeah i was like it was also it was great time 2971 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 because the moon and it was a new moon yeah so like 2972 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 the moon is going to wash out so much of that because 2973 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 you know i mean meteors are basically pieces of dust little more 2974 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 than you know cigarette smoke out there but just as hitting the 2975 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 atmosphere very fast when shannon and i were up in acadia there's 2976 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 some really like sheltered parts of the park and astronomy and stargazing 2977 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 and the parks open twenty four hours a day so you're allowed 2978 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to go in at night and so we were looking at the 2979 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 schedule like the the dark sky clear sky forecast kind of thing 2980 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 and really it was like just one day that we had an 2981 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 opportunity to do it and had a couple options of where to 2982 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 go and we decided to go on the rocks on the ocean 2983 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 some people might know this landmark but by thunder hole i don't 2984 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 expect you to know but someone might get it so and but 2985 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it was a little hazy still you know like you could tell 2986 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 where the milky way was but you couldn't appreciate the milky way 2987 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,960 and then we we saw a few shooting stars saw some satellites 2988 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 it was really cold it got really cold and we didn't have 2989 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 like sleeping bags or anything like that and then it seemed like 2990 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it was getting more hazy and we weren't seeing as much stuff 2991 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 when we built so i did those bring your mind two times 2992 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 one time probably about twelve years ago when my first times went 2993 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 out to cape cod there was a meteor shower was happening and 2994 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 i went out with my brother in law 's sister at like 2995 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 two AM and we went to the beach and saw some meteor 2996 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 it wasn't great we saw some then there was the time when 2997 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 the first time we went to the grand canyon and i happened 2998 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 to notice as i was like sort of walking out after i'd 2999 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 like cool this is the grand canyon it's great this thing saying 3000 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 grand canyon is some of the darkest skies in in the united 3001 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 states because of the blah blah blah it's like OK cool so 3002 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 i came back around like one AM and it was dark and 3003 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 it was the first time that i understood what the milky way 3004 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 meant because you not only saw it but it looked like someone 3005 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 had spilled some milk on some velvet and it was just so 3006 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 there was it was like a stain of like stuff in this 3007 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 band i was like wow that's awesome that time up in meadville 3008 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 is the only time i've appreciated the milk i was hoping we're 3009 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 up in maine we get it but the the dark skies up 3010 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 there like you look at the overlay it's good you're just too 3011 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 easy to get it yeah and the ground light was super good 3012 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 where we were couldn't see any kind of halogen light or anything 3013 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 like that the only thing we would see was the roads so 3014 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 cars who were driving like it's those headlights were hitting us but 3015 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 yeah like there's also night now that all the weather apps have 3016 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 cloud cover too so you can use that to see if there 3017 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 is you know any when we when we did that there didn't 3018 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,920 have any of that information you want to do some rankings sure 3019 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 we got to do rankings and i got to do marry fuck 3020 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 kills rankins rankins so i was trying to think you know we 3021 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 totally stole mary fuck kill from what the beerus do they they 3022 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 do try buy or die which is basically mary fuck kill yeah 3023 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 i know but i i do not want anyone to think that 3024 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 we're clever we totally stole this from the beerus john rubio gets 3025 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 all the props for mary fuck kill or whoever on the beerus 3026 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 team decided to do that note i'll give john the credit all 3027 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 right whoever 's going first needs to take a picture of their 3028 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 order yeah that makes it a lot easier for me to post 3029 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 this show oh my goodness so last place is going to be 3030 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 hard because this was a pretty damn good show it's going to 3031 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 be one of the ipas i guess while you're doing let's listen 3032 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 to some yeah trouble your parents are caught with a sister and 3033 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 empty on a saturday night she's got lots of trouble peeking in 3034 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the pool hall window after school you got trouble folks right here 3035 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 in river city trouble with the capital T and that rhymes with 3036 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 P and that stands for pool now i know all you folks 3037 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 are the right slap lump i mean shannon 's the only one 3038 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 taking notes well that was more for myself yeah 'cause it was 3039 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 my flavor profile my liking so but hopefully i can crib off 3040 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 your notes to get some ideas you sure can absolutely i mean 3041 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 you know i didn't write a lot but all right i got 3042 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 my rankings and then my caveat here is that we're going from 3043 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 first to last or last to first i kind of built suspense 3044 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 last to first always but the prison city mass riots gonna be 3045 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 my last place last place beer and it it falls into that 3046 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 total category of hard luck loser tonight's show was amazing super delicious 3047 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 so mass riot and definitive were very similar beers hazy IPS with 3048 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 lots of tropical flavors guava leading melanie stuff like that i think 3049 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 i liked the definitive better so i'm going to put the mass 3050 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 riots at the end of the lineup then comes bellflower brewing farmhouse 3051 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 ale delicious beer again it's also hard luck loser i dare say 3052 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 because the rest of the lineup was so strong i liked how 3053 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 it had that kind of lemony lemongrass flavor to it it wasn't 3054 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 quite as dry as i had hoped it would be i think 3055 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 that's part of it now a little more funk little more dryness 3056 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 then in whatever place this is one two three four five fifth 3057 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 place is definitive stainless oasis this guy had that tropic that i 3058 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 really liked for the hazy ipas top of notch right but it's 3059 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 competing against the rest of the beers which aren't hazy ipas and 3060 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 so it gets knocked down but i really enjoyed that i'm going 3061 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 to put the rye IPA four from twin barn in fourth place 3062 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 the this gets the win because it was different you know it 3063 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 it gets it's it gets the win of the ipas because it 3064 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 was different i'm going back out there's a dog lying in the 3065 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 room caught there so lying in the room on lincoln you go 3066 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 see what she's there dory it's a little bit tore us here 3067 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 and found the interest dog on the road so she's going to 3068 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 rescue it and now she'll have another car right there so she'll 3069 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,920 have a new dog oh gosh now be careful fourth anniversary from 3070 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 twin barn this guy wins the IPA race tonight because it was 3071 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 different i really liked how the rye played it was dryer it 3072 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 was almost loggery in the malt bill and the way the malt 3073 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 was presented it was almost loggery and then the hop with i 3074 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 think it was kind of a melanie hop the new zealand hop 3075 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 yeah came across melanie i really like that so that wins the 3076 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 hoppy battle tonight and then in third place i'm going to put 3077 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 the beer de capage that guy was yummy but we had two 3078 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 top notches beers before now the top two really a struggle but 3079 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 it's more of like access to me i've had other barrel aged 3080 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 barley wines that have been delicious so i'm going to put the 3081 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 sebago in the second place super duper good everything about it but 3082 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 because it's hard to find a beer like native wild from oxbow 3083 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 brewing where it brings that leather and that granite and everything it 3084 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 it it it's king tonight all right let me get a picture 3085 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 of that give me your phone so i can take a picture 3086 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 'cause my phone 's on the charger of course you and your 3087 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,920 problems with batteries all right who's next shannon me yeah all right 3088 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 well fortunately for the folks listening i have mine numbered and ready 3089 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 to go so i shouldn't even be able to do this relatively 3090 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 quickly well no i mean i rate them but then i have 3091 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 to like look at yeah you'd have to look at my i 3092 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 don't understand anyway there's so calculus in there and we had terrific 3093 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 equations do i no i'm not that smart don't give me that 3094 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 much credit not that smart just about learning a process believe me 3095 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 there are idiots who know calculus people who are really stupid and 3096 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,880 people who are really smart who don't know calculus at all four 3097 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 three that time of the night were great so far there we 3098 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 go so jeff yes dear apparently i married you for a reason 3099 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 OK great mind thing great minds great minds think alike i am 3100 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 back in my pants you know it's it's really unfortunate because we 3101 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 had this really great selection of beers to choose from tonight so 3102 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 fortunate i mean it's i mean it's fortunate but it's unfortunate that 3103 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 someone has to be ranked last yeah exactly that's that's what i'm 3104 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 trying to say so in last place but still really good i 3105 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 have to agree with jeff and and the prison prison city mass 3106 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 riot is going to fall last apparently that's where our agreement ends 3107 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,120 though because i'm not sure which one you chose next but my 3108 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 sixth place was we had seven would be the twin barns golden 3109 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 rye IPA did you choose that one that was that was taurus 3110 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i don't know OK all right it just it didn't do it 3111 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 for me it you know it it was it just didn't bring 3112 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 a lot of flavor yeah i think for me i elevated it 3113 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 because it was different i mean it was definitely everyone has their 3114 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 own scale but you don't have to use anybody either anybody else 3115 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 's scale to measure it's whatever you think is best for whatever 3116 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 reason you think is best for me it didn't mm hmm yeah 3117 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 for me it just didn't get i'm sorry we didn't go over 3118 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 before i before we continue your married fuck kills jeff oh i 3119 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 thought we'd do that after though OK then all right that's fine 3120 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 go ahead sorry i didn't want to interrupt i i i but 3121 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 i did so i apologize and shannon continue please that's fine let's 3122 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 see number five i'm going to have to it hurts i mean 3123 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 this really hurts for me to rate these because every single one 3124 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 of these i really enjoy it enjoy there wasn't a sneaker in 3125 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 the run there there really wasn't so it's it's it's very difficult 3126 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 and it's very difficult for me to to say this but i'm 3127 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 going to have to go with the bellflower now i can't talk 3128 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 farmhouse ale i love it i mean i'd i really like that 3129 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 that barn wheat grainy it was light it it was sweet but 3130 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 it was really subtle sweetness and i i really liked it but 3131 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 unfortunately it's all right it's competing against some really tough ones so 3132 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 that's five number four definitive which again really hard for me to 3133 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 say that because i really loved how smooth it was was bursting 3134 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 with flavor i love that it has a handicap against the top 3135 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 three though it it really does it does it's an I P 3136 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 A I love ipas but i apparently you know when it's up 3137 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 against some of these others and also think about the price point 3138 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 this was like a four dollar or five dollar beer this was 3139 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 a eighteen dollar beer yeah mention which ones you're pointing to yeah 3140 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 yeah well we have to wait the cans or the IPA cans 3141 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 you know are in the forage and then the green bottles are 3142 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 like the sixteen eighteen twenty dollar bottles so so anyway so i 3143 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 really i i really do love definitive i i had a number 3144 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 of their beers while we were there and have had this one 3145 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i had this one on tap i've had this one here at 3146 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 home a hand slap for drinking it it's really enjoyable but you 3147 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 know it's up against some really hard ones so anyways next on 3148 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 the list number three i'm going to have to go with and 3149 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i'm going to slaughter the name that's fine slaughter it slaughter it 3150 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 do it i'm very out of date nail it you said it 3151 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 more eastern european eastern european saying your french beer name OK from 3152 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 what is that schilling beer company yeah i like that really liked 3153 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it i don't know what to say about it i really liked 3154 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 how that really sourness was complimented and and kind of just mixed 3155 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 really well with that stays on that just kind of balanced everything 3156 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 so you had that tartness but it wasn't i mean it it 3157 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 was there but it was just balanced out really nicely so i 3158 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 really i really enjoyed that bursting with different flavors too and then 3159 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 number two this is so hard so hard for me i'm wearing 3160 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 this shirt not your child it's a weird you don't you need 3161 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to disconnect from the emotional what with this it's not gonna feel 3162 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 bad about it it's the the oxbow native wild hats just kill 3163 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 it pour it out freaking awesome i mean it is it i 3164 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 can't say enough about how fabulous it is yeah and it it's 3165 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it they didn't have anything like that on tap while we were 3166 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 there execute order this is one of the beers that we you 3167 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 know just shopped we bought at least a case of oxbows and 3168 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 yeah so it's so fulfilling gratifying like that didn't waste money yeah 3169 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 yeah it delivers that we didn't waste money yeah no for sure 3170 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 the beers that we had on tap though were really really shopping 3171 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 for to go beers at oxbow was crazy it probably had fifty 3172 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 different things well you picked a good one he he there's there's 3173 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 more downstairs so looking forward to it when we do a next 3174 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 show right now first place i have to go with the barley 3175 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 wine from sobago i mean it just really nails it i i 3176 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 love so as my taste buds have evolved over the years short 3177 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 years i've realized that i really like these these barley wines i 3178 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 mean they barley wine there's a few others too but barley wines 3179 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 are i love that barrel that bourbon barrel one one thing that 3180 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 we didn't specify clearly is this is straight up in english style 3181 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 barley wine versus an american i don't know the difference american will 3182 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 probably once will have more hop to them i don't like them 3183 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 i wouldn't want that either fine hoppy barley wines i mean i 3184 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 haven't had a lot of barley wines recently but i haven't tasted 3185 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 a lot of recently hoppy barley wines i don't so i don't 3186 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 know whether that that still accounts for things i think that there 3187 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 is but having something that's unabashedly english style with a marisota and 3188 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 everything that that's true it's a huge bonus in my opinion and 3189 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 probably yeah definitely definitely so that has to be number one for 3190 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 me i guess i need to take a picture snappy snap snappy 3191 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 snap snappy show all right you lower my volume no i get 3192 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 the problem where sometimes i just lose the audio lose i lose 3193 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 your old USB i got i got i got hold of it 3194 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 sorry i got it you already know he knows i know i 3195 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 know i know i can guarantee you all the ipas are at 3196 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the bottom of the list no no not all not all he's 3197 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 struggling decisions OK so what i'm going by my metric for this 3198 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 is remarkability what am i remembering this was a very good show 3199 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 i really enjoyed it i enjoyed the conversation we had i enjoyed 3200 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 the beers we had the cheese don't forget the cheese we had 3201 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 not for me but for you what do i remember and this 3202 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 is the order by which at least at the back end definitely 3203 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 how i remember things and at the front end i think what 3204 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i will remember anyway we talked over the mass ryan it was 3205 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 completely unremarkable it was really good drinker it was tasty and we 3206 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 just went right through it and that is both a good sign 3207 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 if you want something that's a good drinker and it's going to 3208 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 be you know it's it's not going to bother you can drink 3209 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 it while you're watching stuff that's that's great but it didn't stink 3210 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 it didn't it you know it didn't but didn't really illicit conversation 3211 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 pull you out of the stream of conversation and definitive is like 3212 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 right next to it for me and so is bellflower like i'm 3213 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 only putting bellflower in the front because and you call it's not 3214 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it's not hazy but i don't remember much about bellflower i really 3215 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 don't those three are just they're they're not ringing any bells i 3216 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i was looking at the your your list and i was like 3217 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 yeah i guess that's true but i didn't remember what was happening 3218 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,760 here and then the the front four i remember them they're distinctive 3219 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 to me the the four is in my in it right in 3220 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 the middle in fourth place it is a it's got that it's 3221 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 got that tingle of wryness that made it something to remark upon 3222 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 that the other stuff didn't seem to have then the bearded kapage 3223 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 which i agree with you shannon there was there was just so 3224 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 well balanced and the the it's just the the the way that 3225 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,680 that was you cut this obviously really crazy wild with this saison 3226 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 to make its thing it's very drinkable at the same time you 3227 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 get a lot of really cool flavors and you get a lot 3228 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 of evolving stuff going on the native wild was probably the best 3229 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 beer of the night i think that that this is the one 3230 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 that is it's got so much going on it's it's so so 3231 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 much to talk about so much to to dig into but this 3232 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 zhibago was i'm going to remember that the toffee do you have 3233 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 any left no do you i have none left that's unfortunate yeah 3234 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 look at you nurse savago savoring so yeah like the savago was 3235 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 just i was oh no no it's OK i don't want to 3236 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 i don't want to even even taint my memory i i i 3237 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 just i really really enjoyed the hell out of it and like 3238 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 it's the thing that on my mind oh oh could you bring 3239 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 up some of the cheese there bring up the the the the 3240 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 gooeyest one the gooey gooey gooey one so this is the the 3241 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 harbison the harbison goes in in third place oh so we're ranking 3242 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 them too huh i mean i am OK you don't have to 3243 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 no so good you don't want me to but but the harbison 3244 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 to me was good enough to go in third place of of 3245 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 this ranking so i'm going to take a picture of these guys 3246 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,720 let me make them yeah mate get so i can see all 3247 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 of the all the guys and take a picture all right it's 3248 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 a it's marry fuck kill time jeff all right kill 's going 3249 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 to be hard kill 's going to be hard can't kill can't 3250 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 kill to marry the oxbow it's the rules it's the rules i'm 3251 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 going to fuck if you know you're disqualified fuck you it's like 3252 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 i don't even know how to do this i'm going to marry 3253 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 the oxbow i've been a no i'm going to marry the bearded 3254 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 plage and a fuck the oxbow then i'm going to kill the 3255 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 the bellflower OK don't try to make sense of it don't it's 3256 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 like it's like don't apologize to alexa don't give these beers a 3257 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 personality don't don't make them don't think of them as people they're 3258 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 just products right is it my turn it is your turn i 3259 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 have to marry and fuck and kill and kill yes do it 3260 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 do it find it figure it out so if i'm married that's 3261 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 that's the one that i'm i'm drinking all day every day you're 3262 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 stuck with it for life fuck hold on i got to look 3263 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 at my notes again which one do i want to thank all 3264 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 they do every day for the rest of my life for all 3265 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 the days you shall live and if you don't abide by that 3266 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 then you're going to have to pay a lot of tax you're 3267 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 going to pay a lot of money so that means that after 3268 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 i finish doing my lawn work that's the one that i'm going 3269 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 to go to right i have a rough day at work that's 3270 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 the one i'm picking up and i'm going to drink that's going 3271 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 to be my go to i mean the one that's what you 3272 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 wanted to feel about you no i'm asking like when you say 3273 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 i mary that's the one that's my go to is that what 3274 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 you're saying is that you not necessarily be how i look at 3275 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 it but if that's how you want to look at it no 3276 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i'm asking like well i don't want i don't want you to 3277 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 take my interpretation of it i want you to have your own 3278 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 my interpretation of mary fuck fuck and kill OK mary is going 3279 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 to be the go to mary 's going to be the one 3280 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 that's always going to be in the fridge that i'm going to 3281 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 go to all right it's going to be tough i'm going to 3282 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 if i'm marrying one if i'm marrying one it's going to be 3283 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 an IPA all right and it's going to be a definitive OK 3284 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 all right it's your definitive choice that's my definitive choice the one 3285 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 i'm going to fuck gosh that's so hard can i have two 3286 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 i'm gonna like like like your side piece yeah yeah your guma 3287 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 i'm gonna fuck the oxbow all right yeah gruesome you'll be in 3288 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 the oxbow yep yep yep and i'm going to kill kill i'm 3289 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 gonna shank him in the prison i'm gonna kill the prison the 3290 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 prison the mass riot in the prison which is unfortunate because i 3291 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 really like this one too yeah well i mean contrived games have 3292 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 hard luck so yeah gregory OK marry five kill let's go with 3293 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 kill his first three were completely inoffensive and very drinkable so we're 3294 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 going to kill the fort you're killing the fort yeah because i 3295 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 mean it was interesting but i mean do i want that all 3296 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 the time not really that's an interesting way to look at it 3297 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 yeah actually you know what i should have killed the i should 3298 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 have killed the rye probably should have killed the rye but you're 3299 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 absolutely right i didn't think about that no i should have can 3300 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 i take that back no decision 's been made it's it's didn't 3301 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 think about the fact that it's just not oh it's been carried 3302 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 out on it fine fine fine can i kill i still want 3303 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 to kill everybody i'm going to fuck spago any chance i get 3304 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 because man i know that's like a that's like a you know 3305 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 waterbed and velvet and that's a that's a dream getting to fucking 3306 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 tobago but in terms of marrying oh man i'm going to want 3307 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 the oxbow all the time really oh yeah oh yeah like if 3308 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 i had to live with something i want something that's interesting and 3309 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 it's going to be surprising you don't think you're tired of it 3310 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 if i married the oxbow i think it would divorce me yeah 3311 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 it might but i'm still going to do that marrying just so 3312 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 i can say i think if i married it i'd get tired 3313 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,040 of it oh i don't i i mean maybe but i'm a 3314 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,400 neophyte to marrying so maybe i'm wrong here i want to fuck 3315 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 it on the side man but that's why i think of of 3316 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 of the sobago like i think that would be there's no wrong 3317 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 answers that's the fun part about this yeah and we're like two 3318 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,120 hours and fifteen minutes in i should like grab the main i'm 3319 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 sorry no i like it because i think that we did kind 3320 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 of a the the the show that i was wanting to do 3321 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,520 which is more of the the the medium and yet there's more 3322 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 join our discord and you'll be able to find our post show 3323 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 posted right in the show notes section of the shows of the 3324 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,640 shows on the discord shows join our discord and you will interact 3325 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 with all of us all the time buy my book buy my 3326 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 book i'm not always on crafty radio is released under the creative 3327 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,320 commons license and ball the blah blah we used to say yeah 3328 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 i mean who cares about that shit anymore crappy radio is being 3329 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 used by open AI and other places to train themselves to understand 3330 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,560 audio and to you know make really bad beer decisions beer decisions 3331 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,280 and and really bad like and and and poorly made reports for 3332 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,360 young kids in school join our discord tell us what you want 3333 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 us to talk about it give us some feedback we want to 3334 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 hear it come on guys that's your assignment do it do it 3335 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 do it you know all and for those wondering our nagging does 3336 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,440 work we're building you know getting like some of the like old 3337 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,160 O G C B R groupies on there so i mean that 3338 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,080 the best way please don't hear that it's like an insult in 3339 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,800 the desert thanks see ya in the post show