WEBVTT 00:00:11.044 --> 00:00:18.670 Craft beer radio episode one million in binary on August 25th, 2023. 00:00:20.492 --> 00:00:21.352 I'm Shannon. 00:00:21.933 --> 00:00:22.633 I'm Jeff. 00:00:23.114 --> 00:00:23.954 Hi, I'm Greg. 00:00:25.595 --> 00:00:29.978 We got Shannon's newest boyfriend on the music right there. 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:37.743 That's Noah Kahn. She can't stop listening to him. So figured we'd let the show play him in. 00:00:38.464 --> 00:00:43.387 Tonight we have some more beers from the trip and let's do some stuff from Noah Kahn's home state. 00:00:43.387 --> 00:00:47.670 Woo-hoo! 00:00:47.670 --> 00:00:49.350 So we will do his. 00:00:52.032 --> 00:00:58.697 We're back on mics, non-lav mics now, because we feel like the audio suffered 00:00:58.697 --> 00:01:00.718 a bit when we were trying to do the lav mics. 00:01:00.929 --> 00:01:06.623 Yeah, I spent some time, I tried like three different settings in a Phonic and 00:01:06.623 --> 00:01:09.165 it just couldn't tease out a good sound. 00:01:09.165 --> 00:01:15.090 So back to the table mounted mics, and then we'll decide whether we all get 00:01:15.090 --> 00:01:18.192 the nice Shure, what are those, SM85s or something like that? 00:01:18.472 --> 00:01:24.076 This is an M7. And so it's cheaper than the SM-85. So you gotta be a little bit closer to it. 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:33.543 But it's, I think the SM-85 is just something like 400 and this was something like 250 or so. Okay. 00:01:36.479 --> 00:01:39.882 So, I mean, listen to that range, that dynamic range is fantastic. 00:01:40.482 --> 00:01:49.189 It's wonderful at like picking up the parts of speech and not getting confused by other noises. 00:01:49.770 --> 00:01:55.554 So it is a great microphone. I use it for when I'm doing teleconferencing at home. 00:02:00.569 --> 00:02:03.640 So, yeah, very nice. Trying to make sure they don't have any stratification. 00:02:04.101 --> 00:02:05.462 This beer you're pouring, by the 00:02:05.462 --> 00:02:13.287 way, is Arthur, farmstead ale from Hill Farmstead, 6% alcohol by volume. 00:02:14.728 --> 00:02:22.192 It is American malted barley is the pure malt. It is their copyrighted farmstead ale yeast. 00:02:24.554 --> 00:02:32.259 And they age these in foders, which are those gigantic oak, they're like barrels, but huge. 00:02:33.339 --> 00:02:35.701 Tanks. Large wooden tanks. 00:02:39.044 --> 00:02:42.126 Yeah, Greg nailed it. We picked this up when we were up there on the trip. 00:02:43.367 --> 00:02:45.889 And it smells delicious. What is it though? 00:02:46.730 --> 00:02:49.152 It's got a straw color. I think you may have mentioned that, 00:02:49.152 --> 00:02:56.818 I forget. But it's not, it's very, it's transparent otherwise. 00:02:56.818 --> 00:02:59.600 It's not like translucent. You can see through it. It's not that easy. 00:02:59.600 --> 00:03:05.825 It's not crystal clear, but it's giving us a pretty, yeah, and there's just 00:03:05.825 --> 00:03:07.906 like a slight protein haze or something on it. 00:03:08.108 --> 00:03:11.329 So I'm getting definitely a citrus thing coming off of this. 00:03:14.212 --> 00:03:19.276 I almost want to say yuzu, which is a Japanese citrus that's kind of a cross 00:03:19.276 --> 00:03:20.317 between a lemon and a lime. 00:03:20.957 --> 00:03:21.978 I've never heard of it. 00:03:22.659 --> 00:03:25.581 I've heard of it. I don't think I've had the opportunity to try. 00:03:26.262 --> 00:03:32.506 If you ever had a ponzu sauce, that's a soy sauce with yuzu juice in it. 00:03:32.506 --> 00:03:37.750 Okay. And soy and citrus, they go really well together. 00:03:39.232 --> 00:03:43.134 Yeah, so there is that fruit up front and it's kind of backed up by a kind of 00:03:43.134 --> 00:03:51.041 a bit of grass-like aroma, straw, barley malt kind of combination in there. 00:03:51.041 --> 00:03:56.925 You know, it all fits into the feel of the name farmstead ale and farmstead, 00:03:56.925 --> 00:03:59.227 you know, it has a kind of a rusticness to it. 00:03:59.747 --> 00:04:03.970 It's not funky smelling or anything like that, but there is a bit of rusticness. 00:04:04.290 --> 00:04:08.613 So like, how do you define the difference in the two? I guess just orders of 00:04:08.613 --> 00:04:16.269 degree. It's just barely a little bit, uh, you know, um, don't shake it around too much. 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:19.962 I assume these, these are, these are oak voters. Cause I'm, I'm smelling some 00:04:19.962 --> 00:04:25.267 oak or at least some, some like vanilla like stuff that reminds me of old wood. 00:04:25.267 --> 00:04:32.993 Okay. Yeah, I think, I mean, they do do some IPAs, but practically everything 00:04:32.993 --> 00:04:35.716 else seems to go through wood there, so. 00:04:42.280 --> 00:04:45.802 Okay, getting a little bit of tartness on the nose as it now it's warmed a little 00:04:45.802 --> 00:04:51.326 bit and reminded me like the kind of tartness you almost get from like a Lindemans 00:04:51.326 --> 00:04:53.708 or something like that where it's kind of surrounded by something sweeter. 00:04:55.370 --> 00:05:00.203 I had to After a first sip take another sip because I just we just drank a little 00:05:00.203 --> 00:05:05.177 bit of coffee before so my mouth was still in like a bitter stage and then getting 00:05:05.177 --> 00:05:10.481 a Charge of sour from this even though it's not particularly sour it tasted 00:05:10.481 --> 00:05:13.083 extraordinarily sour just right that first sip. 00:05:13.083 --> 00:05:18.987 So I had to give another sip to clear that off. 00:05:23.491 --> 00:05:27.934 Yeah, there's a fair amount of tang there. The nose was hiding it until the very end. 00:05:30.616 --> 00:05:35.400 So it's funkier than a Saison for people who are looking for those mile markers 00:05:35.400 --> 00:05:36.581 of where we're churning. 00:05:38.743 --> 00:05:42.945 Uh, not quite lambic, but kind of a blend between the two. 00:05:43.406 --> 00:05:48.009 There's definitely a real funk in there, but it's quick kind of goes on my palate. 00:05:48.009 --> 00:05:51.011 It's going on quickly. Yeah. 00:05:51.011 --> 00:05:57.756 It's got, I liked the idea of midway between like a, a lambic or, 00:05:57.756 --> 00:06:03.079 or, or, you know, a really soured farmhouse and like a saison where there's 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:04.662 just, it's just sort of dusty. 00:06:04.662 --> 00:06:14.380 Uh, And so this is kind of, yeah, this is a really interesting place for a beer to sit. 00:06:16.340 --> 00:06:24.346 I'm not sure I've had many that like are this in the middle between styles. Yeah. 00:06:24.346 --> 00:06:28.789 No, I agree. It's, you know, it's not something you get a ton of. 00:06:31.011 --> 00:06:34.193 I'm just trying to think. I'm not getting to my point quickly, 00:06:34.193 --> 00:06:37.175 but it, I mean, 00:06:37.175 --> 00:06:43.359 you do find some sours that are on the smaller side, like sour wise, 00:06:43.359 --> 00:06:50.374 like this one, But it's harder these days because all of the smaller sours are 00:06:50.374 --> 00:06:52.086 typically not this kind of sour, right? 00:06:52.086 --> 00:06:57.449 They're typically quick sours, like gozes and filet nervices, things like that. 00:06:58.410 --> 00:07:05.115 Now, I love, I love a wonderful sour that has tons of stuff going on. 00:07:05.575 --> 00:07:12.320 And I really am a huge fan of a saison that's dusty and has all this stuff going on. going on. 00:07:13.321 --> 00:07:18.245 And while this is novel, and I think it's really good and a really good drinker 00:07:18.245 --> 00:07:23.649 for it is, there's also because of what it's doing, I feel like it doesn't have 00:07:23.649 --> 00:07:26.791 that complexity of sour and it doesn't have that complexity of saisonness. 00:07:27.191 --> 00:07:29.673 So it's kind of in a weird spot. 00:07:31.335 --> 00:07:36.418 It's, I hear ya, I hear ya. And a lot of the time recently on this show, 00:07:36.418 --> 00:07:41.102 the good passive drinkers get overanalyzed and under like, like, 00:07:41.102 --> 00:07:43.463 oh, and I wonder if that's something here. 00:07:43.463 --> 00:07:49.107 Cause I think this is like a new cat, like a category I don't consider of like drinkable sour, right? 00:07:49.447 --> 00:07:55.871 You know, my description was, it's very drinkable, but it's a lot harder to make than a gose. 00:07:55.871 --> 00:08:02.356 Yeah, absolutely. So you're not going to see a bunch of these on, on the shelves. 00:08:02.796 --> 00:08:05.158 This the Arthur from Hill farmstead? 00:08:08.320 --> 00:08:15.682 Yeah, it's a weird question because I think that's probably why new styles become created, right? 00:08:15.682 --> 00:08:21.083 Because suddenly there's some beers that are trying to compete in things where 00:08:21.083 --> 00:08:28.045 you just have to, you can't use the same judging criteria that you would have years before. 00:08:28.985 --> 00:08:31.286 So I'm, yeah, I'm very. 00:08:33.268 --> 00:08:39.133 I'm torn because I think I really do like it, but I'm also having trouble finding 00:08:39.133 --> 00:08:43.056 those things that I eat that I really like about both sides of where it's, 00:08:43.056 --> 00:08:44.978 where it's in the middle of. 00:08:44.978 --> 00:08:48.180 All right. This was bottled last June. 00:08:49.001 --> 00:08:55.605 I was curious because some of the flavors are kind of citrusy hop flavors. 00:08:58.528 --> 00:09:03.652 And I was wondering if they were, uh, you know, from the hopping or whatnot. 00:09:03.652 --> 00:09:08.576 Now with that much age on it, it'd be unusual, be fresh hopped flavor. 00:09:08.576 --> 00:09:14.641 Right. But also, you know, like lambics and stuff use old hops and, 00:09:14.641 --> 00:09:19.024 you know, some loggers and things use first ward hopping, you know, 00:09:19.024 --> 00:09:23.147 which is putting it in before the boil, but some magic causes the hop flavor 00:09:23.147 --> 00:09:25.029 and aroma to still be there at the end, you know? 00:09:26.550 --> 00:09:27.691 Um, water is a solvent. 00:09:28.772 --> 00:09:34.215 I think it's more of the Hopscotch. Last I checked, the last time I researched 00:09:34.215 --> 00:09:35.916 it, science didn't have a good answer. 00:09:36.237 --> 00:09:40.399 And I know we talked about it before and I'm guessing that I remember having 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:43.201 a conversation online with some speculation of how things happen. 00:09:43.201 --> 00:09:48.865 But and we talked about it with, remember Horst, that German guy on the beer trip that we were on? 00:09:48.865 --> 00:09:52.767 I mean, I remember talking to him about actually, I talked to him about photolysis. 00:09:54.248 --> 00:09:55.650 what I was interested in. 00:09:57.662 --> 00:10:01.974 Um, but I don't, yeah, but I do remember talking about stuff like other stuff. 00:10:01.974 --> 00:10:08.560 So I almost wonder, or, you know, I have less want to prescribe how they made 00:10:08.560 --> 00:10:13.343 the beer and then like more of like, I've had beers where I've gotten flavors 00:10:13.343 --> 00:10:16.005 like this from things like first, first word hopping, I guess. 00:10:16.005 --> 00:10:18.647 So it's a suspect of how they got here with this. 00:10:19.728 --> 00:10:22.771 They do say American and European hops on here. They don't mention which hops 00:10:22.771 --> 00:10:25.333 there are. Shannon, what do you think? What's your opinion on this one? 00:10:25.333 --> 00:10:31.277 I really enjoy it, but it's just a very drinkable, subtle, sour, in my opinion. 00:10:31.277 --> 00:10:40.885 There's not a lot of complexity to it. So, I mean, I don't know. I really like it, but. 00:10:41.665 --> 00:10:42.746 I think we're in the same boat. 00:10:42.746 --> 00:10:45.248 Going to be, I mean, it's up against. 00:10:45.708 --> 00:10:46.989 It's hard to wax poetic about. 00:10:46.989 --> 00:10:47.750 Yeah. 00:10:47.750 --> 00:10:48.510 Yeah. 00:10:48.510 --> 00:10:52.342 It's like, this is good. There's a lot of stuff in here I like. 00:10:53.093 --> 00:10:54.373 I'd like to drink this a lot. 00:10:55.674 --> 00:10:57.215 What else can I say about it though? 00:10:58.215 --> 00:11:02.177 I'm with you. I think we've pretty much exhausted it. So, what topics do you 00:11:02.177 --> 00:11:03.938 got on your notepad over there? 00:11:07.158 --> 00:11:11.221 Um So I've been playing Baldur's Gate 3. 00:11:11.221 --> 00:11:18.226 Okay. I just kind of started it's There's a lot to it. 00:11:18.226 --> 00:11:26.412 It's a Dungeons & Dragons game and being sorry Didn't turn my notifications 00:11:26.412 --> 00:11:31.056 off on my watch This is what you're just need to let your watch battery down like mine. 00:11:31.056 --> 00:11:35.919 Mine won't make any sounds I think you also won't be able to find your phone 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:37.310 with your watch way Yeah, 00:11:37.310 --> 00:11:39.962 that's true that that's one of the 00:11:39.962 --> 00:11:46.407 things I do like about these is like I Wonder if we're gonna do and catch those 00:11:46.407 --> 00:11:54.693 noises It's the thing where we forget that we're using an AI to yeah So one 00:11:54.693 --> 00:11:57.435 of your favorite features on your watch is the find my phone Yeah, 00:11:57.435 --> 00:12:00.778 I showed my mother that when we were on We were at the cape, 00:12:00.778 --> 00:12:02.319 but she had no idea that existed. 00:12:02.319 --> 00:12:06.382 And I was like, yeah, you should do this all the time. I use it all the time. 00:12:07.303 --> 00:12:11.386 I don't even try to remember where my phone is. It's like, it's one of those 00:12:11.386 --> 00:12:12.407 skills that you're going to 00:12:12.407 --> 00:12:16.370 lose. Like, because like remembering phone numbers, don't have to do it. 00:12:17.231 --> 00:12:20.353 Putting down your phone and trying, having to remember where you put it, 00:12:20.353 --> 00:12:23.636 not a valuable skill anymore. Not your watches then. 00:12:23.636 --> 00:12:25.918 You just have to figure out a way to do that with your keys. Yeah. 00:12:25.918 --> 00:12:30.181 And it's one of those things where your eyes will completely miss it, 00:12:30.181 --> 00:12:33.123 even though you're looking like right in the area where it's at, 00:12:33.123 --> 00:12:37.686 just because it's an inconspicuous thing that you always expect to see anyway, 00:12:37.686 --> 00:12:40.508 so your brain just sort of ignores it, even though it's right there. 00:12:41.209 --> 00:12:42.990 Stupid brain, don't ignore it this time. 00:12:43.060 --> 00:12:51.656 You know, we grew up to, we evolved to not have to worry about little plastic and glass squares. 00:12:53.238 --> 00:12:56.422 So our brain is not yet to the point where these matter. 00:12:57.563 --> 00:13:01.057 All right, Baldur's Gate 3, it's a D&D type game. 00:13:01.057 --> 00:13:01.357 And, 00:13:04.644 --> 00:13:10.408 Sort of a top-down game so or like, you know, Diablo like so you're clicking 00:13:10.408 --> 00:13:13.571 to move your guys around It's really deep. 00:13:13.571 --> 00:13:19.168 It has a lot of different for different classes you can play and then different 00:13:19.168 --> 00:13:22.126 Role-playing opportunities you have and different apparently passing me and 00:13:22.126 --> 00:13:24.099 I haven't really read any spoilers about it. 00:13:24.099 --> 00:13:28.142 I haven't gotten very far but It's complex 00:13:28.142 --> 00:13:32.385 and it's it's a lot so I'm kind of going slow because 00:13:32.385 --> 00:13:34.967 I do feel like it's one of those games sort of 00:13:34.967 --> 00:13:38.129 like I don't if you ever played old civilization games 00:13:38.129 --> 00:13:40.871 but you can get lost in them you weren't where you 00:13:40.871 --> 00:13:47.089 you start playing at five and it's one more turn it's one in the morning and 00:13:47.089 --> 00:13:53.801 just just one more time so I'm trying to go slower and just like take my time 00:13:53.801 --> 00:13:58.925 with it I'm also trying to play it with okay what would my character do in this situation, 00:13:58.925 --> 00:14:02.888 as opposed to what's the best outcome in the game for me? 00:14:03.749 --> 00:14:06.691 Just to see what will happen if I play it, because it's D&D. 00:14:06.691 --> 00:14:11.935 I feel like you the best way to play D&D is to really embrace not what do you 00:14:11.935 --> 00:14:16.398 feel is the best way to get all the gold or whatever, but the best way to play 00:14:16.398 --> 00:14:19.160 what your character would do. 00:14:20.101 --> 00:14:24.304 That's the that's the fun that I think you that's the most funny game in D&D. 00:14:24.344 --> 00:14:27.987 You can play it as a board game where you're trying to get points. 00:14:27.987 --> 00:14:30.608 and stuff like that, but that's not as fun to me. 00:14:30.969 --> 00:14:32.290 What's your character's traits? 00:14:32.760 --> 00:14:41.576 So he is a wizard. He is pretty impressed with himself. He is, 00:14:41.576 --> 00:14:43.718 you know, kind of arrogant about his skill. 00:14:44.999 --> 00:14:52.634 And he also so he just got this message that indicates that he is on a that 00:14:52.634 --> 00:14:59.669 he's on some sort of like quest that and that he should use this power. 00:14:59.669 --> 00:15:07.115 He's been given a lot in order to master it, even though it feels like it's wrong, but. 00:15:09.645 --> 00:15:14.288 Everybody else apparently had the same dream with somebody telling them that. 00:15:15.049 --> 00:15:18.811 But my guy is totally I'm playing him like, oh, no, he believes it. 00:15:19.552 --> 00:15:23.115 He thought, oh, that sounds awesome. So I'm going to do this. 00:15:23.595 --> 00:15:26.697 Even everyone else is saying, no, that that's obviously a trick. 00:15:26.697 --> 00:15:29.299 OK, so we'll see where it goes. 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:34.162 That's that's interesting. Probably will sell you short a little bit down the road, I would think. 00:15:34.684 --> 00:15:39.827 Does again, it's a very replayable game. right? So I'm not that concerned if 00:15:39.827 --> 00:15:40.748 I make the wrong choices. 00:15:40.748 --> 00:15:44.450 I think that the fun of this game and in the stuff I was reading, 00:15:44.450 --> 00:15:47.532 the fun of the game is because I'm also talking to some other people who are 00:15:47.532 --> 00:15:50.535 playing it and they've all taken different paths. 00:15:52.176 --> 00:15:55.498 So the fun is afterward, you know, coming back and saying, well, 00:15:55.498 --> 00:15:58.080 what did you do this? Did you do that? Did you do that? Did you, 00:15:58.080 --> 00:15:59.461 how did you get past this? 00:15:59.802 --> 00:16:04.545 What did you experience? So, yeah. So Allie's been playing D and D online, 00:16:04.545 --> 00:16:07.220 like discord over discord or something playing dd but 00:16:07.220 --> 00:16:11.030 real on the board you know she she's 00:16:11.030 --> 00:16:13.912 a druid and but yeah 00:16:13.912 --> 00:16:16.694 she's kind of getting into it so it's it's fun and 00:16:16.694 --> 00:16:20.577 i think that it's it's a lot more culturally available now because there are 00:16:20.577 --> 00:16:27.902 so many like shows you can watch online of people playing dnd and so it demystifies 00:16:27.902 --> 00:16:31.325 a lot of it and also when you see people playing online they're playing like 00:16:31.325 --> 00:16:35.310 really excellent games with excellent DMs who are building great worlds. 00:16:38.615 --> 00:16:44.710 So you're unlikely to get that experience on just a random game you play with some friends, but, 00:16:47.082 --> 00:16:49.924 you can get some of it. I think it's like, 00:16:49.924 --> 00:16:56.639 I think an example would be if you watch some excellent improv people, 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:03.313 you're going to get a maybe twisted example of what you might do in the first year of improv class. 00:17:03.313 --> 00:17:08.176 Okay. But you'll still have fun in your first year of improv class, I assume. 00:17:09.608 --> 00:17:14.581 But you won't be doing, you know, amazing scenes that, like, Big Granday can do. 00:17:14.581 --> 00:17:18.445 Okay. Yeah. Um, what was I going to say? 00:17:18.445 --> 00:17:22.227 What are you pouring? Oh, I'm calling an audible and changing our initial order 00:17:22.227 --> 00:17:28.592 because the other Hill Farmstead is Anna and I think it's pretty much the same beer, but dry hopped. 00:17:28.592 --> 00:17:32.155 So it was kind of tart. So I think instead of doubling up, let's do a palate 00:17:32.155 --> 00:17:34.617 cleanser in between. So this is going to be... 00:17:34.617 --> 00:17:36.718 Shannon, have you ever played any D&D? No, I haven't. 00:17:38.800 --> 00:17:40.862 Are you curious at all about D&D? 00:17:42.063 --> 00:17:47.327 I'm like, here's how I sure. Yeah. 00:17:47.327 --> 00:17:55.613 I mean, it's basically. Play acting with dice choosing the basic idea is play 00:17:55.613 --> 00:18:04.280 acting an adventure and then dice decide the randomness of your of of your actions working on. 00:18:04.280 --> 00:18:08.023 So, but somebody is is sort of in charge of the game. That's the game master 00:18:08.023 --> 00:18:09.604 and they and there are rules, 00:18:09.604 --> 00:18:14.948 although they're, they can be flexible and you're just sort of then, 00:18:14.948 --> 00:18:19.871 it's a sort of group adventure where everyone, things happen. 00:18:19.871 --> 00:18:24.155 And if the GM is really good or if the game is designed well, 00:18:24.155 --> 00:18:29.198 then the whole context can change just based on the actions or interactions 00:18:29.198 --> 00:18:34.002 that you have, but how successful you are is determined by, Bye dice. 00:18:38.455 --> 00:18:41.917 Luck. Luck. And in some cases also, though, if you're like really good at it, 00:18:41.917 --> 00:18:44.899 you can exploit the, so some of the rules to your advantage, 00:18:44.899 --> 00:18:48.682 you can like, cause you have a basic economy of resources. 00:18:48.962 --> 00:18:53.966 Let's say you have like on your turn, you can do an action, but you also have maybe a bonus action. 00:18:53.966 --> 00:18:56.788 And then maybe there's also something else you could do on your turn. 00:18:56.788 --> 00:19:01.381 If you have a particular class, um, or how fast, where you can move. 00:19:01.381 --> 00:19:05.187 And so there's lots of ways in which you can, if you're really good and you 00:19:05.187 --> 00:19:09.517 have a good understanding of the system, you can do more than if you're just a novice at it. 00:19:09.917 --> 00:19:13.890 But in general, yes, basically the luck of your dice versus, 00:19:13.890 --> 00:19:16.302 you know, how the DM is designed. 00:19:16.302 --> 00:19:19.704 I've played a ton of video games where they're RPGs, right? 00:19:21.546 --> 00:19:25.228 Never once have had the opportunity to play D&D. I mean, I probably have had 00:19:25.228 --> 00:19:27.650 the opportunity. I probably could have said, Hey, Greg, next time you and Nick 00:19:27.650 --> 00:19:31.974 are playing D&D, can I come? But, you know, it just hasn't fallen into my lap, 00:19:31.974 --> 00:19:34.716 right? I haven't, I haven't wandered into a dungeon. 00:19:36.898 --> 00:19:40.380 Well, again, like your, like your daughter, you could find something online 00:19:40.380 --> 00:19:41.741 and just get into it that way. 00:19:41.741 --> 00:19:45.364 It's a, it would be probably a good way to just sort of jump in. 00:19:45.364 --> 00:19:49.047 Although a game like, you know, Baldur's Gate would be a good way too, 00:19:49.047 --> 00:19:51.589 I think, because it could get you an idea of the system, although it doesn't 00:19:51.589 --> 00:19:56.322 really handhold you through this. So you have to kind of figure it out if you 00:19:56.322 --> 00:19:58.514 don't know the rules to this is, I believe. 00:19:58.514 --> 00:20:02.617 A period back in the day where I got pretty deep into a mud. 00:20:02.617 --> 00:20:06.700 Yeah. It's the same kind of thing. So what are we drinking? 00:20:07.061 --> 00:20:10.463 This is dinner from Main Beer Company. It's their double IPA. 00:20:11.084 --> 00:20:12.665 That is a presumptuous name. 00:20:13.586 --> 00:20:18.089 Well, their regular IPA is called lunch. So it builds upon that. 00:20:18.089 --> 00:20:21.611 That's right. We had that last time, didn't we? 00:20:21.611 --> 00:20:22.152 We didn't know. 00:20:22.152 --> 00:20:24.684 But we have, we had something that was along the same lines. 00:20:24.684 --> 00:20:31.899 We have breakfast or brunch or, or dinner or we only had, I only brought home 00:20:31.899 --> 00:20:33.740 two beers for main, lunch and dinner. 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:39.223 And I don't know. I just decided we'd do dinner now because it's dinnertime. 00:20:39.223 --> 00:20:40.965 I feel like we did lunch before. Anyway. 00:20:40.965 --> 00:20:46.969 Oh, we have. I mean, back in the day, we've half had it before because it was 00:20:46.969 --> 00:20:48.009 available in Pittsburgh occasionally. 00:20:48.450 --> 00:20:52.272 No, I feel like, like literally, like, I don't know why I do them. 00:20:54.214 --> 00:20:55.414 I promise you that we haven't. 00:20:55.414 --> 00:20:59.370 Okay. 8.2% on this double IPA, what do we think? No. 00:20:59.370 --> 00:21:03.959 Nothing. Okay. I was saying we could check our index, but. 00:21:06.421 --> 00:21:09.722 That'll take time. Let's get this train chat GPT on us. 00:21:10.923 --> 00:21:13.965 Yes. Big and orangey, orangey tangerine aroma. 00:21:16.763 --> 00:21:19.325 So, okay, um, guess the hops. 00:21:19.805 --> 00:21:21.226 Guess the hops. Um... 00:21:21.226 --> 00:21:23.490 You wanna play too? 00:21:23.490 --> 00:21:25.189 Well, let me... 00:21:25.189 --> 00:21:29.182 It's fun that even if you like... One of them is, is, is out there. 00:21:29.182 --> 00:21:30.793 Really? 00:21:30.793 --> 00:21:34.455 Yeah. I think I've heard of it before. We've probably talked about it before, 00:21:34.455 --> 00:21:36.377 but it's, it's, it's out there. The name's out there. 00:21:38.058 --> 00:21:44.042 Let's go with with mosaic and mendurina brevaria. 00:21:44.763 --> 00:21:46.904 Okay, there are four. 00:21:46.904 --> 00:21:52.209 You stole my, I was gonna say mosaic. Okay. 00:21:52.209 --> 00:21:54.350 Four, so I would throw in some. 00:21:54.350 --> 00:21:57.312 Galaxy. 00:21:57.312 --> 00:22:05.238 I'd throw in centennial. Ooh. And, or maybe cascade, maybe cascade. 00:22:07.020 --> 00:22:14.045 Any other guesses? No, I like On the room I can totally smell it so really, 00:22:22.051 --> 00:22:27.094 mm-hmm So the answer is you got to write mosaic and Simcoe the Seahawk is actually 00:22:27.094 --> 00:22:30.497 Citra Okay, and the one that's out. 00:22:30.497 --> 00:22:32.298 There is Falconers flight, okay Wow. 00:22:34.220 --> 00:22:35.400 Yeah, isn't that wild? 00:22:38.823 --> 00:22:41.805 Falconer's Flight. Like I said, I've heard of it, but I don't know. 00:22:42.266 --> 00:22:48.670 I think it's a New Zealand hop. It's one of two things. It's either a new New 00:22:48.670 --> 00:22:50.551 Zealand hop, or it's an ancient English hop. 00:22:52.773 --> 00:22:53.713 It's foreign to me. 00:22:55.695 --> 00:22:58.877 It's a proprietary blend of Pacific Northwest hops. 00:22:58.877 --> 00:23:00.338 Oh, F. 00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:06.082 Okay, it includes the seven sea hops, Cascades, Centennial, Chinook, 00:23:06.082 --> 00:23:10.405 Citra, Cluster, Columbus, and Crystal. So you were kind of right all along. 00:23:10.946 --> 00:23:12.967 Yes, except for what I thought Falconer's Flight was. 00:23:14.989 --> 00:23:18.051 I guess two regions that were absolutely not there. So yay, me. 00:23:19.952 --> 00:23:25.576 In addition to experimental variety developed by Hop Union, not Hop Steiner. 00:23:28.679 --> 00:23:33.181 Who Greg down in New Zealand uses hop Steiner. I think he thought we were like 00:23:33.181 --> 00:23:38.443 joking that it was a fictitious ... Oh, I kind of was, so he nailed it. Oh, okay. 00:23:40.764 --> 00:23:42.706 Greg, or Greg if you're nasty. 00:23:44.407 --> 00:23:48.390 I like this. This is kind of old school, but still not bitter. 00:23:48.390 --> 00:23:54.794 It has those big, dense, West Coast, juicy hop flavors that you'd get back in the day. 00:23:55.415 --> 00:24:00.909 Usually accompanied by a teeth stripping, enamel eating, bracing bitterness. 00:24:01.379 --> 00:24:03.660 But this doesn't have it. So I'm enjoying. 00:24:04.201 --> 00:24:08.464 Or is it there? And is my palate just changed so much that I don't taste bitter anymore? 00:24:08.885 --> 00:24:10.145 No, I don't taste any bitter. 00:24:11.667 --> 00:24:16.871 It's using its hops well. It's still a little bit on the sulfur side because 00:24:16.871 --> 00:24:20.053 I think what it's missing is it's missing a deeper malt backbone. 00:24:20.474 --> 00:24:22.695 I would have appreciated a little bit more sweetness here. 00:24:23.416 --> 00:24:25.597 I think it has it though. I'm getting... 00:24:27.159 --> 00:24:28.940 I want something a little bit more caramelly. 00:24:28.940 --> 00:24:30.321 Okay. 00:24:30.321 --> 00:24:32.743 In this. I want something a little bit, yeah, just a little... 00:24:34.564 --> 00:24:36.107 Oh, this mic's noisy. 00:24:36.107 --> 00:24:39.794 Wow. 00:24:39.794 --> 00:24:41.257 Your mic is real noisy. 00:24:43.331 --> 00:24:44.271 Shame on me. 00:24:44.271 --> 00:24:46.013 You got a nasty mic there. 00:24:46.013 --> 00:24:48.034 We should clean it next time. 00:24:50.376 --> 00:24:56.220 Mm-hmm so The malts here are two row caramel 40 l carapils and dextrose. 00:25:00.004 --> 00:25:05.306 I'm Yeah, I think like they could have used I don't know I, you know, it's obvious. 00:25:09.551 --> 00:25:14.314 Oh, I would say just put Maris Otter in here, but I feel like you could have 00:25:14.314 --> 00:25:17.596 gotten something a little bit more caramelly. I think that might've stood up 00:25:17.596 --> 00:25:21.469 more here to get a little bit of the sulfury edge off. Okay. 00:25:21.469 --> 00:25:26.943 I'm enjoying this. I think that it has for this kind of IPA, 00:25:26.943 --> 00:25:32.787 the juicy resiny IPA, this one brings it for me. I'm really enjoying this. 00:25:32.787 --> 00:25:37.831 I appreciate that it's not a hazy. I totally am on board. 00:25:38.131 --> 00:25:42.174 It is a little hazy-ish, but it's not like, it's not a hazy. 00:25:42.174 --> 00:25:48.318 It's not oats and wheat and kvick yeast. 00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:52.681 Yeah, I think the haze here is just, you know, proteins, something like that. 00:25:52.681 --> 00:25:58.314 It's not trying to be something. But yeah, it's pretty good. 00:26:02.087 --> 00:26:04.048 For me, it's I can't drink it very fast. 00:26:05.499 --> 00:26:11.153 Well, I think it's the sulfury Yeah, it's it's also pretty high in alcohol. 00:26:11.153 --> 00:26:15.156 So I mean it's got it's got a lot going on So there's a lot of flavor that's 00:26:15.156 --> 00:26:21.421 hitting you with But it the nice thing is it really does not end bitter and 00:26:21.421 --> 00:26:26.614 and just like with that with a Just rip your face off bitterness, 00:26:26.614 --> 00:26:31.648 which I think Jeff you were talking about how that's That's old style crap that 00:26:31.648 --> 00:26:35.110 fortunately seems like we're done with. 00:26:35.151 --> 00:26:37.976 Yeah. Unless you go by an arrogant bastard or something like that. 00:26:37.976 --> 00:26:42.828 Right. We should try again just to be like, wow, that is. 00:26:43.891 --> 00:26:45.812 What people loved 14 years ago? 00:26:45.812 --> 00:26:52.537 Yeah Just because I think it's hilarious and Greg and I talked about this real 00:26:52.537 --> 00:26:54.619 briefly before he's very grumpet. Ok, 99 is back Mm-hmm. 00:26:55.560 --> 00:26:58.862 This is that superconductor that was a thing and everyone got excited about 00:26:58.862 --> 00:27:03.666 it and then labs tried to reproduce it and just last week Literally last week. 00:27:03.666 --> 00:27:08.689 We're like, uh, it it flashed out. It's nothing and then just today on Tom's 00:27:08.689 --> 00:27:12.792 hardware. It's like it's back, baby Maybe there's a different manufacturing process. 00:27:14.454 --> 00:27:15.375 They're using... 00:27:15.475 --> 00:27:17.176 Conveniently a lot more difficult than it was before. 00:27:17.176 --> 00:27:23.061 Using a gas deposition kind of, a vapor deposition method. And then like, 00:27:23.061 --> 00:27:28.365 silicon's involved now, which wasn't involved before. So, and a patent apparently 00:27:28.365 --> 00:27:30.326 was updated. So, I don't know. 00:27:31.647 --> 00:27:34.109 Maybe it'll change the world. I love it, I love that it's back. 00:27:34.670 --> 00:27:35.950 And next week it'll be gone again. 00:27:36.211 --> 00:27:40.534 It feels like one of those things where, Oh no, we, we did it like just to try 00:27:40.534 --> 00:27:45.757 and delay more. It feels very cold fusion like, right? Where it's like, Oh no, no, no, no. 00:27:46.278 --> 00:27:48.499 We gave you the incorrect thing here. 00:27:49.120 --> 00:27:54.484 It's a lot harder to do it and everyone's going to try again and going to get the same things. 00:27:54.484 --> 00:28:00.428 And then they're just going to go on the like talk show market, 00:28:00.428 --> 00:28:03.950 you know, like the cold fusion guys did and just be like, no, 00:28:03.950 --> 00:28:09.174 no, it really did work. And it's just the science, the entire apparatus of science is keeping us down. 00:28:10.836 --> 00:28:14.338 Whereas as if, like if a company found cold fusion, they wouldn't be like, 00:28:14.338 --> 00:28:16.300 let's exploit this right away. 00:28:17.381 --> 00:28:22.865 Or, or a superconductor, like no one is trying to keep down something like this. 00:28:24.146 --> 00:28:30.770 This is important. People would be, people will happily pay money for the patent. 00:28:31.371 --> 00:28:35.334 Yeah, let's get some more rinsey rinses here. So we don't bring the hop juice 00:28:35.334 --> 00:28:37.236 along with the next ring to hop juice. 00:28:40.258 --> 00:28:45.002 So, let's see. I put so on our discord join our discord everybody. 00:28:45.002 --> 00:28:52.627 If you haven't yet, I put up some new some new channels a topic suggestions channel for stuff. 00:28:53.229 --> 00:28:56.071 You would like us to talk about a music suggestions channel. 00:28:56.071 --> 00:29:00.254 If you have any idea for intro music, there already is a recommendations the 00:29:00.254 --> 00:29:01.635 channel for beers and stuff like that. 00:29:03.036 --> 00:29:05.818 There's, like we said, what are you brewing? What are you drinking? 00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:10.782 If you want to inform everybody, is that some new thing you have or what you're 00:29:10.782 --> 00:29:13.864 tasting or whether it's good or bad, join in the conversation. 00:29:14.225 --> 00:29:19.349 And we'll probably at some point do like a live show that will stream on Discord 00:29:19.349 --> 00:29:22.912 and maybe invite people to come in and join in. 00:29:22.912 --> 00:29:23.633 That would be fun. 00:29:23.805 --> 00:29:28.280 Ooh, look at that cap. I'm not sure if Arthur had that cap, but Anna has a fancy one. 00:29:28.280 --> 00:29:32.066 So it's a cap with a little plastic kind of, how would you describe that? 00:29:33.394 --> 00:29:39.399 plumbus It's it's got a little Plastic ring in it. 00:29:39.399 --> 00:29:46.984 It's hard It's it's not it's not it's not a silicone II type of it's not plucked or pliable at all. 00:29:46.984 --> 00:29:52.068 It's very I Don't know what that it's designed to give it a better seal right? 00:29:52.068 --> 00:29:56.211 It's a it's a cork cap all-in-one I guess that that does make a little bit of 00:29:56.211 --> 00:29:59.873 sense looks Kind of like if you imagine a pizza, 00:29:59.873 --> 00:30:04.157 and you have a little plastic table in the middle Uh, this is a plastic ring, 00:30:04.157 --> 00:30:11.442 so it's hollow, but it's sort of in the middle of the, the, um, bottle cap. 00:30:12.283 --> 00:30:16.967 And I guess, yeah, the bottle would go around it and then this would still dip 00:30:16.967 --> 00:30:18.148 now into the bottle a bit. 00:30:18.148 --> 00:30:24.052 So maybe it helps keep oxygen out. Like you said, like, uh, so not even to like 00:30:24.052 --> 00:30:28.176 cork would allow oxygen through. This is more of a extra sealant. 00:30:28.176 --> 00:30:35.440 Yeah. than just the the little gasket on the top of the cap. This is Anna. 00:30:36.301 --> 00:30:37.241 This is either Anna. 00:30:37.582 --> 00:30:42.745 I think Anna is a different grain bill than Arthur. And I don't know if Anna 00:30:42.745 --> 00:30:45.626 is... Well, I mean, they just say American malted barley. 00:30:47.388 --> 00:30:52.251 Is Anna always Motaweka dry hopped or is this a special Motaweka dry hopped? 00:30:52.251 --> 00:30:59.295 They say the same thing, European and American hops. They do add Vermont wildflower honey. 00:31:03.318 --> 00:31:07.400 All right, so I presume this is a variant of Anna that is dry hopped with Motueka. 00:31:10.562 --> 00:31:13.944 Oh, so okay. So it's specially mentioned on the... Yeah, so it's right there. 00:31:13.944 --> 00:31:14.324 Okay. 00:31:16.846 --> 00:31:21.689 Okay, I do see Anna Motueka on the side here. So I'll go to that one. 00:31:22.689 --> 00:31:27.312 Yeah, dry hop with Motueka hops grown by Freestyle Farms in Upper, 00:31:27.312 --> 00:31:33.716 Greg, don't throw me shade, Upper Motere, New Zealand? 00:31:33.716 --> 00:31:41.682 M-O-U-T-E-R-E? Upper Mutere? Upper Mutere? Upper Malter? 00:31:44.724 --> 00:31:47.987 This has been the bottle conditioning since December 8th. 00:31:50.209 --> 00:31:51.269 December 8th, 2022. Yep. 6.2%. 00:31:51.269 --> 00:31:52.390 ABV. Okay. 00:31:52.390 --> 00:32:00.075 So other than that, I think it's, yeah, very, it's similar. It's a little, maybe, no. 00:32:00.336 --> 00:32:05.359 I think it's lighter than the, than Arthur. Yeah, I had my hand on it and I 00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.150 was like, Oh, it's darker. And then as soon as I moved my hand out, 00:32:07.150 --> 00:32:11.443 I was like, no, it's just reflecting my hand, but it may be a bit lighter. 00:32:12.805 --> 00:32:17.848 It's still a straw color. It had a significant foamy head when you poured it. 00:32:17.848 --> 00:32:19.729 It's gone down significantly since then. 00:32:24.352 --> 00:32:28.095 The aroma is pretty tight right now. Like, it's not giving up a ton of things. 00:32:29.417 --> 00:32:32.799 If, I want to say I can smell the honey, but if I wasn't just told there was 00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:34.720 honey in it, I don't think I'd be there. 00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.063 Yeah, I think not smelling anything, I just sort of instinctively just went 00:32:38.063 --> 00:32:43.567 in for a sip. So, I won't talk about it until you've done your sips. 00:32:46.309 --> 00:32:51.412 But, interesting, I think. Definitely a very, you know, just a play on Arthur itself. 00:32:52.974 --> 00:32:57.377 a lot fuller, like the kind of similar flavor, but a lot fuller. 00:32:58.018 --> 00:33:02.741 It's a big, it cuts the, the big thing up front that's in front of, 00:33:02.741 --> 00:33:07.225 whether it's Arthur with more stuff or not, I don't know. 00:33:07.225 --> 00:33:10.527 But the thing that I'm tasting that tastes like it's in front of Arthur is more 00:33:10.527 --> 00:33:14.270 of like a grape flavor, like almost like a, a sweet green grape or something 00:33:14.270 --> 00:33:16.132 like that with a little bit of tang to it. 00:33:16.553 --> 00:33:19.954 It's the way it came across. It's from the honey and the dry hops and things, 00:33:19.954 --> 00:33:20.955 but it came across crepey. 00:33:21.676 --> 00:33:24.317 And I'm getting some of the hops at the end. 00:33:29.561 --> 00:33:32.542 But Motuek is a weird one, because it's got that vanilla thing. 00:33:34.104 --> 00:33:41.548 So it's not like a. It's not a bitter hop, nor is it a tropical hop or a resny 00:33:41.548 --> 00:33:48.462 hop. It's a it's got this weird kind of stone fruit thing going on. 00:33:49.373 --> 00:33:56.379 That's how it's coming across in this is some kind of under-ripe tart stone fruit. 00:33:56.379 --> 00:34:02.754 Now the tart might all be coming from the proprietary yeast in the farmhouse, 00:34:02.754 --> 00:34:05.726 rustic nature of the beer and whatnot. 00:34:08.109 --> 00:34:13.212 The honey comes and goes. I thought I tasted it, like the mouthfeel from fermented 00:34:13.212 --> 00:34:16.334 honey and stuff in the first taste and then second taste, I didn't really get it. 00:34:16.815 --> 00:34:24.080 I'm not getting any honey, maybe it's, well, it's very hard to me. 00:34:26.362 --> 00:34:32.666 So the Anna talks about Vermont wildflower honey, the Anna Motueka doesn't say anything about honey. 00:34:32.666 --> 00:34:33.126 Oh, okay. 00:34:34.668 --> 00:34:37.770 But that doesn't mean that it's, but I figured that since it's Anna, 00:34:37.770 --> 00:34:41.872 no, okay, nevermind. It does have the honey in there as an adjunct. Bye. 00:34:48.246 --> 00:34:51.008 So, just another one that's not built for review on the show, 00:34:51.008 --> 00:34:53.870 it seems. It's hard to be too super poetic about it. 00:34:53.870 --> 00:35:01.176 See, I think this one, the bigger, it's a bit bigger in a little... 00:35:01.697 --> 00:35:07.441 It's more complex than Arthur, I think, but I don't, I'm not able to pull anything out in particular. 00:35:07.441 --> 00:35:10.963 Yeah, I don't know if it's necessarily more complex, but it's more, it's louder, right? 00:35:11.424 --> 00:35:12.625 Okay, louder, yeah. 00:35:13.186 --> 00:35:16.208 There's a lump on the tongue, like a lump of flavor, right, when you take a 00:35:16.208 --> 00:35:17.899 sip and it kind of lands on your tongue. 00:35:20.131 --> 00:35:21.692 But can you pinpoint what it is? 00:35:21.692 --> 00:35:25.475 It's like a grapey thing for me. Just the grapey thing. The combination of everything 00:35:25.475 --> 00:35:29.998 comes across as kind of like a macerated green grapey thing. 00:35:29.998 --> 00:35:31.299 I feel more plums. 00:35:32.941 --> 00:35:34.742 I can get the plum, I think. 00:35:37.675 --> 00:35:42.168 But I guess they're kind of similar fruits in a lot of ways and taste if you really think about it. 00:35:43.449 --> 00:35:48.252 So plums can be a little bit deeper, but not necessarily compared to red grapes, not really. 00:35:49.163 --> 00:35:52.435 I mean, there's so many styles of grapes now. There are grapes that they have 00:35:52.435 --> 00:35:58.799 that taste like cotton candy. Cotton candy. Yeah, I mean like grapes are... 00:35:58.799 --> 00:36:00.020 I bet you those make good wine. 00:36:01.932 --> 00:36:03.323 It depends on the person. 00:36:03.323 --> 00:36:09.888 Maybe. I'm sure someone could do something with it to make a good wine. 00:36:10.348 --> 00:36:14.071 not like, I don't think a cotton candy wine would be great, but I think you 00:36:14.071 --> 00:36:20.136 could use that as a flavor to, and entice something out of it with the right 00:36:20.136 --> 00:36:21.496 yeast and the right aging. 00:36:26.161 --> 00:36:29.603 But yeah, wine that tastes like cotton candy does not feel like that's inspired, 00:36:29.603 --> 00:36:32.726 like an inspired creation. So to me... 00:36:32.726 --> 00:36:33.186 Moscato. 00:36:33.186 --> 00:36:35.307 I know a bunch of people who would drink it though. 00:36:35.808 --> 00:36:40.231 Oh, I can imagine it'd be real. be very popular with the kids. 00:36:43.074 --> 00:36:47.256 Boone Farm cotton candy. Bartles and James. 00:36:51.240 --> 00:36:55.062 I'd take a shot of that at a bar. A shot of like a cotton candy. 00:36:55.062 --> 00:36:55.423 Oh yeah. 00:36:55.423 --> 00:36:56.103 That'd be great. 00:36:56.103 --> 00:36:56.644 Yeah. 00:36:57.825 --> 00:36:59.176 If you make it smooth. 00:36:59.787 --> 00:37:01.488 What would you chase it with though? 00:37:02.589 --> 00:37:07.732 Probably like like a Dr. Pepper or something, some cherry thing. 00:37:09.154 --> 00:37:12.596 I mentioned him last week. I am so in love with the How to Drink pod, 00:37:12.596 --> 00:37:15.339 or YouTube channel, his name isn't Greg. 00:37:15.339 --> 00:37:18.941 He's the guy who does a bunch of cocktails and things like that. 00:37:18.941 --> 00:37:22.344 Oh, it's so good. Like you learn so much about how to make different drinks 00:37:22.344 --> 00:37:26.052 and just your cocktail preparation techniques. But then he does a ton, 00:37:26.052 --> 00:37:30.741 I mentioned last week, he does a ton of different genres of shows. 00:37:30.741 --> 00:37:31.943 And some of them are just like, Um... 00:37:33.723 --> 00:37:39.708 Customers who like bar tickets of like awful Special requests or like we watched 00:37:39.708 --> 00:37:43.410 one last night of drinks from like colonial times and earlier, 00:37:43.410 --> 00:37:50.716 you know there was a couple of things in there like the Ethan Allen is hard 00:37:50.716 --> 00:37:57.601 cider and rum or no hard cider and bourbon and mint and And, 00:37:57.601 --> 00:38:01.463 um, I was so mad because I had a can of cider here. 00:38:01.503 --> 00:38:04.985 I had just drank a cider about 20 minutes before I watched that. 00:38:05.846 --> 00:38:07.448 It was like... It was the only can. 00:38:07.448 --> 00:38:13.852 It was like, son of a bitch. Fuck you, Greg. Why didn't you come on 20 minutes earlier? 00:38:16.114 --> 00:38:20.096 But I really enjoy that show. Can't recommend it more. And it's... 00:38:20.096 --> 00:38:24.159 Yeah, it's really fun to watch. It's... He... Yeah, everyone should give it 00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:25.240 a try. It's How to Drink on YouTube. 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:30.063 Reminds me that when I was in, oh, by the way, first of all, 00:38:30.063 --> 00:38:33.966 I'm looking at the other cap and you'll notice that it has the same thing, 00:38:33.966 --> 00:38:37.068 but just a lot more recessed. 00:38:37.728 --> 00:38:40.170 This one's kind of a normal cap liner. 00:38:40.170 --> 00:38:45.533 I think that the thing that we're talking about is a much more embossed version 00:38:45.533 --> 00:38:47.114 of the standard cap liner. 00:38:48.956 --> 00:38:54.619 I just noticed that about a quarter of my eye. But in terms of YouTube channels, 00:38:54.619 --> 00:39:02.024 I was trying to explain to my parents at the house why they were doing their 00:39:02.024 --> 00:39:04.246 dishwasher slightly wrong. 00:39:04.246 --> 00:39:07.468 And they said, you know what? Let's just watch it. And I introduced them to 00:39:07.468 --> 00:39:09.436 the technology connection. We watched that and they were like, 00:39:09.436 --> 00:39:13.413 that's a great, that was great. Let me get to, you know, this guy is thinking, 00:39:13.413 --> 00:39:16.976 yeah, let's watch the toaster one after that. Yeah. 00:39:16.976 --> 00:39:18.796 We're kind of addicted to that one too. 00:39:19.797 --> 00:39:23.400 Yeah. down the rabbit hole six months ago or something on Technology Connections. 00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:25.742 He's just a, it's just a great show. The guy's name is Alec, 00:39:25.742 --> 00:39:30.926 Alec something. It, it, he just, it's really well done. He has a unique style 00:39:30.926 --> 00:39:35.910 that, that really works for him. Uh, and a sense of humor that also works for him. 00:39:35.910 --> 00:39:37.611 I love his shirts too. 00:39:37.611 --> 00:39:41.884 Yeah. Yeah. But also in a way that doesn't feel like he's talking down to you 00:39:41.884 --> 00:39:46.098 when he's talking about subjects that are, They're relatively complex. 00:39:46.098 --> 00:39:52.382 And he goes into every corner of a subject, especially like the CEDs, 00:39:52.382 --> 00:39:58.065 where he did a five-episode series on the RCA capacitive electronic disc. 00:39:58.745 --> 00:40:01.125 Shannon had a CED player when she was a kid. 00:40:01.125 --> 00:40:02.026 Really? Yeah. 00:40:02.026 --> 00:40:06.307 That's pretty cool. I mean, just that you had one of those things. 00:40:06.307 --> 00:40:10.808 I remember I wanted an Intellivision or something like that. 00:40:11.829 --> 00:40:15.170 I remember seeing in the store, there is this thing that had. 00:40:17.139 --> 00:40:20.520 No, you know, it was a Philips thing. It was like a CD thing, 00:40:20.520 --> 00:40:24.999 but it had some Zelda games and it was before I even had a Nintendo but it was 00:40:24.999 --> 00:40:27.805 like I could play a Zelda game and it's barely there were terrible Zelda games, 00:40:27.805 --> 00:40:32.829 but I Remember wanting it in the store and then Frank forgetting about it and 00:40:32.829 --> 00:40:35.891 then seeing stuff later but how these were like the worst Zelda games the worst 00:40:35.891 --> 00:40:39.894 Zelda properties ever made and Nintendo doesn't even acknowledge it anymore 00:40:39.894 --> 00:40:47.439 The first video game console that I got was the Odyssey The odyssey, 00:40:47.439 --> 00:40:50.161 okay that I'm trying to 00:40:50.161 --> 00:40:57.907 remember which one that was cuz that's Wow Was that we go I think I don't know 00:40:57.907 --> 00:41:08.835 The odyssey and I was playing computer games well before Well before I got to I got a Nintendo Oh, 00:41:08.835 --> 00:41:11.517 Magnavox Odyssey. 00:41:11.778 --> 00:41:14.750 There you go. Does it show a picture? 00:41:17.022 --> 00:41:17.982 Yeah, it has a... 00:41:17.982 --> 00:41:19.123 Yep, oh no. That is the clunkiest. 00:41:19.123 --> 00:41:20.644 That's not the one that I had. 00:41:20.644 --> 00:41:21.745 Oh no? No. 00:41:22.606 --> 00:41:23.867 Oh, here's the one that I had. 00:41:26.049 --> 00:41:28.470 All right, she's showing us on a picture. 00:41:28.811 --> 00:41:29.932 Looks like a speaking spell. 00:41:29.932 --> 00:41:33.975 Hmm. 00:41:33.975 --> 00:41:38.438 I've, oops, sorry, microphone. I've seen this before, never played it, but I've seen it. 00:41:38.739 --> 00:41:42.301 I mean, I'm looking at the Wikipedia version and this looks like. 00:41:42.301 --> 00:41:43.122 That's the one. 00:41:43.122 --> 00:41:47.005 Okay, so it has a little bit of a keyboard thingy on it. So it reminds me of 00:41:47.005 --> 00:41:49.867 like the first computer that I ever had was a TRS-80. 00:41:49.867 --> 00:41:58.653 Then I think a year or so after that, we got a window, not a window, way before windows. 00:41:58.653 --> 00:42:05.999 We got a IBM probably, it was a clone, IBM clones, it was four megahertz. 00:42:10.725 --> 00:42:14.487 And yeah, and we had a monitor that was a CGA monitor that you could change 00:42:14.487 --> 00:42:17.259 the color of the text with the button. 00:42:17.259 --> 00:42:17.772 Ooh, that's great. My first computer was, what, three generations after yours. 00:42:17.772 --> 00:42:19.612 It was the Candy Color Computer 3. 00:42:19.612 --> 00:42:19.912 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. 00:42:33.390 --> 00:42:36.592 Remember convincing my parents to first get a heart a larger hard drive and 00:42:36.592 --> 00:42:39.554 then an EGA card So it's like a wing commander to on the TRS-80. 00:42:39.554 --> 00:42:44.884 Oh On the PC. Okay. Yeah, we never had I don't know They probably didn't have 00:42:44.884 --> 00:42:49.381 hard drives for for those computers first Christmas when I got it came with the cassette deck. 00:42:50.723 --> 00:42:54.385 Yeah And loading games from cassettes were awful. And then I probably told the 00:42:54.385 --> 00:42:59.369 story before but there was a Magazine you could get for the color computers. 00:42:59.789 --> 00:43:03.112 It's called rainbow and And there's a magazine with code in it. 00:43:03.112 --> 00:43:08.846 So imagine like, I don't know, an 11-year-old trying to transpose code. 00:43:08.846 --> 00:43:12.599 Never went very well. I had to beg my mom to type in the code for me. 00:43:14.301 --> 00:43:17.883 But you could order the programs on cassette in the mail. 00:43:20.325 --> 00:43:25.749 And one of the times, they just got totally magnetically damaged in transit. 00:43:25.910 --> 00:43:30.383 And I'd have to, I'd try to load the game like five or six times to get it to work. 00:43:31.053 --> 00:43:34.816 And it was so frustrating. Where in hindsight, it's like, just write the company, 00:43:34.816 --> 00:43:37.911 they'll send you another tape. But it was like, oh, you're a kid, 00:43:37.911 --> 00:43:38.919 you don't know you can do that. 00:43:41.061 --> 00:43:46.284 And then the following Christmas got to the floppy drive that plugged into the ROM port. 00:43:46.284 --> 00:43:51.508 I remember seeing something about these controllers. That is one of the worst 00:43:51.508 --> 00:43:53.329 designs I've ever seen for a controller. 00:43:53.710 --> 00:43:54.311 Terrible design. 00:43:54.853 --> 00:43:59.461 It's got... So, okay. Boy, how do you explain this? 00:43:59.943 --> 00:44:04.493 It's like a little, um, a little box, like a... 00:44:05.743 --> 00:44:09.006 Kind of boxes that like, is there anything that that's sort of similar to that? 00:44:09.927 --> 00:44:17.272 Well, it's almost like something you would, um, pay a quarter at like a museum 00:44:17.272 --> 00:44:22.296 to, to, to make it play the audio where you have two wheels on the side. 00:44:22.296 --> 00:44:24.577 Yeah. And there's two wheels on the side, apparently that you're controlling 00:44:24.577 --> 00:44:29.161 the horizontal and the vertical. And then there's a, a knob for English, 00:44:29.161 --> 00:44:32.203 which I guess is in terms of like, like a pool English thing. 00:44:32.584 --> 00:44:39.138 And there's a reset button on the top So I guess you're playing like Pong type 00:44:39.138 --> 00:44:42.070 games or things like that yeah, 00:44:42.070 --> 00:44:47.855 I suppose yeah, the English would kind of give the Projectile a bit of a spin 00:44:47.855 --> 00:44:51.998 as a good writer bowling Oh, we're ping-pong like like you actually play it 00:44:51.998 --> 00:44:54.399 in real table tenants, but that's wild. 00:44:54.399 --> 00:44:58.542 That's stupid and And it's amazing and like, not at all. 00:44:59.383 --> 00:45:02.859 I mean, like I remember the, you know, the old Atari controllers are still, 00:45:02.859 --> 00:45:04.487 you know, everything was boxy. It never has yet. 00:45:04.928 --> 00:45:08.210 The idea of conforming to a hand was just not something that was, 00:45:08.210 --> 00:45:11.713 that didn't come about until like the, the later eighties. 00:45:11.713 --> 00:45:12.853 Not till the PlayStation. 00:45:13.214 --> 00:45:18.237 Well, no, cause they had like, I know that the second Genesis had like a kind 00:45:18.237 --> 00:45:22.020 of curve to it. So it was, it was trying to do that. 00:45:22.561 --> 00:45:23.942 PlayStation was downright futuristic. 00:45:23.942 --> 00:45:28.065 And the same with the Nintendo Super Nintendo, right? It had like the bubbles 00:45:28.065 --> 00:45:30.327 at the end, as opposed to just just a square. 00:45:30.327 --> 00:45:37.642 The. The paddles for the Atari were more form fitting, though. 00:45:37.642 --> 00:45:41.315 The knobs that you could use to play the games like breakout and stuff like that. 00:45:41.315 --> 00:45:43.777 I don't remember them very well. I thought they were still kind of boxy. 00:45:43.777 --> 00:45:44.897 I remember the television. 00:45:45.479 --> 00:45:48.561 They had a radius to them. They were they fit in the palm better. 00:45:48.561 --> 00:45:51.803 OK, I remember the Intellivision controller, another terrible controller, 00:45:51.803 --> 00:45:57.531 because it was a square with a knob on top. And then I think they had a number 00:45:57.531 --> 00:45:59.914 pad. I remember correctly. Yeah. 00:45:59.914 --> 00:46:03.439 Yeah. I think the Coleco had a number pad too. 00:46:03.439 --> 00:46:03.879 Yeah. 00:46:05.564 --> 00:46:13.570 just the, those weird days when people had no idea what they were making and 00:46:13.570 --> 00:46:16.973 they were just experimenting and did not. 00:46:17.313 --> 00:46:19.975 I just figured out what I need to get you for your birthday. 00:46:20.355 --> 00:46:20.896 What's that? 00:46:20.896 --> 00:46:22.157 Which is tomorrow, by the way. 00:46:22.157 --> 00:46:25.719 So everyone wish Greg a happy birthday, a week late, a couple of days late when 00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:29.722 you get this, um, it's how many times the earth has traveled around the sun 00:46:29.722 --> 00:46:33.505 since I was, since I have been, was expelled from my mother's It's totally cool. 00:46:33.505 --> 00:46:38.829 And it's probably several million light years in the universe away since the 00:46:38.829 --> 00:46:41.031 Sun has moved Million light years. 00:46:41.031 --> 00:46:41.872 I don't know. 00:46:41.872 --> 00:46:46.255 I don't think so. Well, I'm just Saying big numbers million parsecs. 00:46:46.576 --> 00:46:50.779 No, not even 12 parsecs Toshi run Yeah, oh wait, they'll shine against me. 00:46:56.504 --> 00:47:00.626 I'm sorry to leave you Um, but what are you going to tell me what this? 00:47:00.626 --> 00:47:03.668 I'm going to build suspense until Shannon gets back. Cause she'll enjoy the conversation. 00:47:06.611 --> 00:47:07.932 Shannon, we're waiting on you. 00:47:08.812 --> 00:47:10.133 Tell us you're ready three times. 00:47:11.574 --> 00:47:16.528 All right. We just poured one of the, I bought a bunch of beers from Allagash 00:47:16.528 --> 00:47:18.799 on the trip. That was like our first big stop. 00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:25.824 And we took the sellers tour at Allagash and got the drink beer from a fooder. 00:47:25.844 --> 00:47:29.930 They got to drink a couple of limited releases, and then they had beer for sale 00:47:29.930 --> 00:47:33.455 that was just for sale for people at the Cellars Tour. This is one of them. 00:47:33.455 --> 00:47:36.930 This is Needles. It's a rum barrel aged beer from Allagash. 00:47:37.942 --> 00:47:40.625 The contents are under pressure, so open cautiously. 00:47:42.032 --> 00:47:44.253 It's 10.6% ABV. 00:47:44.253 --> 00:47:44.894 Oh, good. 00:47:45.494 --> 00:47:49.537 And it was bottled on September 12th, 2018. 2018, pre-COVID, pre-pandemic. 00:47:53.661 --> 00:47:56.863 So don't want to expose this to COVID, otherwise it might get sick. 00:47:56.863 --> 00:48:00.286 All right, so I figured out what we're going to eat, Greg, for his birthday. 00:48:01.107 --> 00:48:02.027 It's kind of late. 00:48:03.469 --> 00:48:06.991 No, technically early. Birthday is just a state of mind. Okay. 00:48:06.991 --> 00:48:09.373 P.A. pinball. We're going to take him to P.A. pinball. 00:48:09.373 --> 00:48:10.754 Oh, that would be fun. 00:48:11.215 --> 00:48:18.119 It's this place down in Beaver that has like 400, like a retro video game machines 00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:22.783 and pinball machines and stuff like that. And you pay like hourly or, 00:48:22.783 --> 00:48:25.985 you know, like go in for like a session of two hours or something like that. 00:48:25.985 --> 00:48:30.569 I mean, I'll definitely do that, but to be honest, I would prefer, 00:48:30.569 --> 00:48:33.671 let's say either escape room. I love those. 00:48:33.951 --> 00:48:40.276 Or you guys can go do the one that they're using the submarine over there at the museum. 00:48:42.078 --> 00:48:46.160 That's maybe, or like a putt putt that when it was indoor putt, 00:48:46.160 --> 00:48:47.821 putt things that you can drink out. It'd be fun. 00:48:49.443 --> 00:48:52.745 I'm pretty sure it's BYOB at the PA Pimble. I thought you, okay, sorry. 00:48:53.806 --> 00:48:59.570 That's my idea though. I'm not against it, but there's so many old games like 00:48:59.570 --> 00:49:01.191 the old Budweiser like game. 00:49:01.191 --> 00:49:04.093 Yeah. Like, well, I, I recently, when Nick was here, I went to a, 00:49:04.093 --> 00:49:08.857 uh, There's an arcade, a smaller one in the strip where they have a bunch of 00:49:08.857 --> 00:49:14.541 a bunch of pin pinball machines and really old games. 00:49:14.981 --> 00:49:21.986 And it was fun for like an hour. And then it kind of. And like all those old games are so. 00:49:23.677 --> 00:49:30.552 They're lacking in depth that it just felt like, every time I play one, 00:49:30.552 --> 00:49:32.794 I'm not really into it anymore. 00:49:34.836 --> 00:49:39.426 So I didn't have as much fun as I thought I would okay That's that's the reason 00:49:39.426 --> 00:49:45.364 why I'm a little less like yeah, exactly the the nostalgia of it was not I Was 00:49:45.364 --> 00:49:47.225 like man a sit-down spy hunter. 00:49:47.225 --> 00:49:52.289 This is awesome and rampage and you know older ones Frogger Just playing freaking 00:49:52.289 --> 00:49:59.515 Frogger Frogger was fun Frogger turns out to be a pretty fun game But you know, 00:49:59.515 --> 00:50:05.219 like, how long can you play it before you just like, okay, and Spy Hunter, 00:50:05.219 --> 00:50:09.201 another one, it's just could have been better. 00:50:10.022 --> 00:50:16.426 All of these games, they don't, I feel like video gaming has moved on so significantly 00:50:16.426 --> 00:50:23.872 from them that they just like, I still, you know, Pac-Man can draw me in. 00:50:24.574 --> 00:50:29.278 When something is designed really well, uh, it can be kind of timeless, 00:50:29.278 --> 00:50:33.723 but, And a spy hunter was more. 00:50:35.454 --> 00:50:36.514 nifty than timeless. 00:50:37.335 --> 00:50:43.839 Yeah, yeah. No, I hear you. It was one, that's like the, that's my number one, 00:50:43.839 --> 00:50:45.681 like, nostalgia video game. 00:50:45.681 --> 00:50:49.564 Like, it was at the arcade when we went on vacation up the Conneaut Lake one 00:50:49.564 --> 00:50:53.306 year, and I, you know, got all the quarters I could get my hands on when I did the Spy Hunter. 00:50:53.687 --> 00:50:57.209 So, like, that's, you know, that's the reason that that one is, 00:50:57.209 --> 00:51:01.833 when I say, you know, retro nostalgia, for me it's Spy Hunter. 00:51:01.953 --> 00:51:08.237 But yeah, the one down at PA Pinball, I didn't do great, you know? 00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:13.862 That's another thing, I do feel like, especially Pac-Man, it does feel like 00:51:13.862 --> 00:51:20.647 a game where if you played it a couple times more than standard, you can get good at it. 00:51:21.527 --> 00:51:27.752 Whereas those other ones, a lot of it is just, it's not so much that you'd be 00:51:27.752 --> 00:51:33.876 lucky to, you'd have to spend a lot to get to the point where you understand the patterns. 00:51:33.876 --> 00:51:39.341 I mean, nice thing about that is, you know, it's an entry fee, 00:51:39.341 --> 00:51:41.842 so you can play whatever you want. Oh, that's nice. As many as you want. 00:51:41.842 --> 00:51:43.784 You don't have to put in tokens to play, so. 00:51:43.964 --> 00:51:48.367 Like I said, I wouldn't be opposed to it, but if you're looking for things to 00:51:48.367 --> 00:51:52.470 get to, like, to make that part of my brain go, woo! 00:51:53.111 --> 00:51:53.671 Escape rooms. 00:51:53.671 --> 00:51:56.293 Escape rooms, and I think the putt-putt stuff would be great, too. 00:51:56.293 --> 00:51:57.475 Okay. 00:51:57.475 --> 00:52:01.757 I would pass on the escape rooms, but I'll definitely join you on the topic. 00:52:01.757 --> 00:52:02.698 She's worried about claustrophobia. 00:52:02.698 --> 00:52:07.782 No, you're not gonna get claustrophobic. Because usually, almost all of them, 00:52:07.782 --> 00:52:10.645 there's one that I played with was just a really big room, but almost all of 00:52:10.645 --> 00:52:12.186 them, they open up into multiple rooms. 00:52:12.626 --> 00:52:16.709 And if you freak out, you just switch to- And you're so busy trying to solve 00:52:16.709 --> 00:52:18.090 problems that you're not really thinking about. 00:52:18.090 --> 00:52:20.232 And if you do freak out, there's an escape button. 00:52:20.232 --> 00:52:21.393 Yeah, you can just go out. 00:52:21.393 --> 00:52:21.761 Let me out. 00:52:21.761 --> 00:52:22.374 You can just walk outside. 00:52:22.374 --> 00:52:25.959 Yeah, but I'd be mad at myself for paying all that money to go into the escape 00:52:25.959 --> 00:52:29.063 room in the first place and then having to hit that button. So then I would 00:52:29.063 --> 00:52:32.568 just, I wouldn't do it. so then I would just suffer through it. 00:52:35.041 --> 00:52:36.442 I think that's what I'm afraid. 00:52:37.523 --> 00:52:40.625 I understand your reluctance, but I think the problem solving, 00:52:40.625 --> 00:52:43.767 you'd forget about it real quick. You'd be like, Oh my God, look at that. 00:52:43.767 --> 00:52:44.448 That's it. 00:52:44.448 --> 00:52:46.169 As long as it's not the submarine one. 00:52:46.169 --> 00:52:50.933 Yeah. I think, I think it'd be, it'd be fun to do one with you. 00:52:50.933 --> 00:52:57.978 Cause I think you'd find it a lot more, um, a lot more exciting than you're 00:52:57.978 --> 00:53:00.059 thinking the submarine one. 00:53:00.120 --> 00:53:04.623 That one probably, there's no bones around that one being claustrophobic. 00:53:04.623 --> 00:53:05.103 Right. Yeah. 00:53:05.103 --> 00:53:06.685 Because, have you been on the Requin? 00:53:06.685 --> 00:53:07.826 I haven't, no. 00:53:07.826 --> 00:53:10.688 So, at the Carnegie Science Center here in Pittsburgh, on the river, 00:53:10.688 --> 00:53:12.269 they have this World War II submarine. 00:53:12.649 --> 00:53:14.511 Oh, no, I have been in that, yeah. 00:53:14.511 --> 00:53:17.673 Moored. I don't think it ever actually served in World War II. 00:53:17.673 --> 00:53:22.077 It was commissioned right at the end or something. But it's the USS Requin. 00:53:23.438 --> 00:53:28.652 And I've toured it. It's been a while. But you could imagine a diesel submarine 00:53:28.652 --> 00:53:35.867 from 1944 not having very many spacious amenities and turning that into an escape room. 00:53:35.867 --> 00:53:45.374 There's, okay. So the upside is the, you won't have like fake knobs and dials and buttons. 00:53:45.374 --> 00:53:51.117 You'll have a bajillion real knobs, dials and buttons, but also everything's 00:53:51.117 --> 00:53:53.217 going to be so cramped. Not like... 00:53:56.281 --> 00:53:59.583 Legitimately like hooked up, like they're not the old stuff because they wouldn't 00:53:59.583 --> 00:54:02.805 want you to break the actual old thing. So it's just going to be new crap. 00:54:04.066 --> 00:54:08.390 It might be, but there's, where are you? There's like, I don't know. 00:54:08.390 --> 00:54:10.090 I have more, I don't know. 00:54:10.351 --> 00:54:14.624 I have more faith because you can't like build, like you can't put drywall in there. 00:54:14.624 --> 00:54:17.937 There's no room, you know, you can't build new stuff or either. 00:54:17.937 --> 00:54:25.983 You're going to just like stick obvious new construction on 80-year-old control 00:54:25.983 --> 00:54:29.606 panels, and you're gonna be like, oh, there's the button, or you're gonna have 00:54:29.606 --> 00:54:32.748 to get under the panels and hook up the real stuff. 00:54:32.748 --> 00:54:36.551 If you hook up the real stuff, that's a pretty damn cool escape room. 00:54:36.551 --> 00:54:39.133 Yeah, but I don't think you're gonna do that, because you have a bunch of public 00:54:39.133 --> 00:54:41.575 going through there. The real stuff's gonna break, and you don't want that. 00:54:41.575 --> 00:54:43.917 I think they're done with the tours. I think it's kind of like- I think this 00:54:43.917 --> 00:54:48.781 is their last ditch effort to- I think people don't care about touring the submarine anymore, so. 00:54:48.781 --> 00:54:49.381 I get it. 00:54:49.962 --> 00:54:53.945 That's kind of the impression that I got when I saw it on the news recently, 00:54:53.945 --> 00:54:55.646 that they were turning it into a scape for... 00:54:56.607 --> 00:54:58.848 I don't think it's a permanent thing. I think it's temporary. 00:54:58.848 --> 00:55:00.069 It's only for a couple of months. 00:55:00.660 --> 00:55:04.773 But I don't know. I don't know. So what's this beer we got? This is Needles, 00:55:04.773 --> 00:55:06.854 the Rum Barrel Age beer from Allagash. 00:55:06.854 --> 00:55:10.617 Allagash. 00:55:10.617 --> 00:55:12.038 10.5% wild ale. 00:55:14.380 --> 00:55:17.763 Dark, right? I mean, sort of toffee-like, a little bit lighter than that. 00:55:18.744 --> 00:55:23.006 but it's kind of the color, sort of a tannish. I'm getting, go ahead. 00:55:29.531 --> 00:55:35.665 Oh, you're probably getting more than me. I'm getting more of the like barely, like oak, malt. 00:55:37.337 --> 00:55:41.360 I'm not getting like the rum, like that molasses-y rummy rum. 00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:41.921 Let's switch here. 00:55:41.921 --> 00:55:43.743 Oh. Smell yours. 00:55:50.671 --> 00:55:54.635 Yeah, mine has more kind of sour notes than yours. 00:55:54.635 --> 00:55:54.815 Okay. 00:55:54.815 --> 00:55:58.699 In the aroma, I feel like. Would you like to smell mine? 00:55:58.699 --> 00:55:59.821 It's subtle. 00:56:05.095 --> 00:56:13.232 I think mine smells more sour. Interesting. 00:56:13.232 --> 00:56:16.264 Oh, the back has a lot of information. I don't know if the website has this, 00:56:16.264 --> 00:56:23.149 but it started as a sour brown ale brewed with Pilsner Munich Special B caramel 00:56:23.149 --> 00:56:27.612 melts with caramel malts with additional touch of flaked maize. 00:56:28.513 --> 00:56:34.618 American yeast takes care of the primary fermentation. before we had PDO, galacto for souring. 00:56:35.379 --> 00:56:41.263 Needles was sealed in oak barrels, previously used for aging rum at New England Distilling. 00:56:42.504 --> 00:56:49.629 Finished beer grains, or finished beer gains, a deep, yeah, I can see what color it is. 00:56:51.671 --> 00:56:52.912 And we'll figure out the flavor. 00:56:52.912 --> 00:56:55.214 That's because you've opened the bottle. I mean, technically, 00:56:55.214 --> 00:56:59.157 you may not have opened the bottle before you read the thing on it, but okay. 00:56:59.677 --> 00:57:01.479 I taste the rum at the end for sure. 00:57:01.479 --> 00:57:03.340 Did you notice the label though? 00:57:04.301 --> 00:57:07.303 Yeah, compass rose, yeah. I like compass roses, big fan. 00:57:09.085 --> 00:57:11.927 Oh, that's the needle, it's the compass needle. Got it, cool. 00:57:12.487 --> 00:57:16.530 I thought it was needles, like, I don't know, like jaggy plants, 00:57:16.530 --> 00:57:20.133 like briars or something. Jagger's net. 00:57:20.894 --> 00:57:21.554 Oh boy. 00:57:22.135 --> 00:57:32.603 The flavor has this kind of appley, kind of tart apple or something I'm getting. 00:57:33.023 --> 00:57:36.106 That rhubarb in there? Yeah. 00:57:36.106 --> 00:57:37.907 I like it. I can get behind that. 00:57:37.907 --> 00:57:38.527 Yeah, definitely. 00:57:42.050 --> 00:57:43.651 I was thinking like, is it prickly 00:57:43.651 --> 00:57:46.673 pear? But it's not, but rhubarb's way closer to what I was thinking. 00:57:46.673 --> 00:57:51.818 The rum's really apparent. Yeah. Like it really, I really taste the rum here. 00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:57.093 It's especially at the end, and it adds sweetness the whole time through. 00:57:57.984 --> 00:57:58.905 I can taste it. 00:58:01.100 --> 00:58:02.301 I think it really stands out. 00:58:02.301 --> 00:58:04.653 Oh, I can taste it in yours. Yeah. 00:58:04.653 --> 00:58:08.826 Mm, mix them. 00:58:08.826 --> 00:58:13.989 Um, this, you know, the sourness is not as complicated as you probably would 00:58:13.989 --> 00:58:21.655 want. Like, I'm thinking this is, this is more outbrewed than like Flanders-y, uh, and... 00:58:23.536 --> 00:58:27.659 Yeah, when they say, like, uh, it starts out as a brown ale, 00:58:27.659 --> 00:58:30.481 it makes you think it's headed toward, and the ingredients, right? 00:58:30.481 --> 00:58:31.562 Pilsner, Munich, Special B. 00:58:32.563 --> 00:58:35.326 Old Brune. It's probably where they wanted to go. And then like, 00:58:35.326 --> 00:58:37.967 hey, let's throw this, you know, silly thing in. 00:58:37.967 --> 00:58:43.851 Let's throw some pedio in there. Which is kind of a weird twist, but I don't dislike it. 00:58:43.851 --> 00:58:48.354 I mean, it's kind of par for the course for the souring culture on Old Brune. 00:58:48.354 --> 00:58:51.056 Putting it in rum barrels is the big twist. 00:58:51.056 --> 00:58:53.478 Yeah. 00:58:53.478 --> 00:58:56.540 And it does make it for 10.5 very drinkable. 00:58:56.540 --> 00:59:04.666 It's, I really like this. I, on the nose it's really sour but I don't taste 00:59:04.666 --> 00:59:11.240 the, on the palate it doesn't, there's, the sourness isn't there. 00:59:11.240 --> 00:59:14.152 It's not tart, it's not sour, it's very drinkable. 00:59:15.193 --> 00:59:19.556 I think it is tart. For me the tart fruit flavor like kind of wipes out the 00:59:19.556 --> 00:59:21.627 big boozyness, the extra sour. 00:59:22.198 --> 00:59:26.821 It's, it kind of is around that appley rhubarb thing is where I'm focused on 00:59:26.821 --> 00:59:28.912 this beer, where my center of gravity is. 00:59:31.104 --> 00:59:34.706 What's interesting to me is how, four beers in, right? 00:59:35.427 --> 00:59:41.051 There's yet to be one that's wowed me yet. And these are a lot of beers that you'd think would be. 00:59:41.051 --> 00:59:44.714 Yeah, no, I brought back, I brought back Whale's Glore, you know? Yeah. 00:59:48.677 --> 00:59:50.728 There's definitely not one I'd throw out in the bunch. 00:59:50.728 --> 00:59:57.143 Yeah, no, no. My impression of the flight is I'm super-duper pleased. 00:59:57.143 --> 01:00:01.246 I'm enjoying every one. I would like it even more if we went off on this tangent 01:00:01.246 --> 01:00:03.088 picking out a thousand flavors in a beer. 01:00:03.088 --> 01:00:08.212 But short of that, it's super fun and got plenty of things to talk about. 01:00:08.212 --> 01:00:15.317 The mugshot. The mugshot that shook the world. So my first comment was, 01:00:15.317 --> 01:00:20.464 I feel wrong for looking at, like, the mugshot makes you feel wrong for looking at it. 01:00:20.464 --> 01:00:20.946 Why? 01:00:21.680 --> 01:00:22.913 The stare, the glare. 01:00:23.446 --> 01:00:24.880 Oh, I just thought. 01:00:26.532 --> 01:00:31.315 Isn't it weird that 35% of the country this this gremlin is their hero? 01:00:31.315 --> 01:00:32.937 Yeah. 01:00:32.937 --> 01:00:36.940 Well, is it only 35% probably The ones who consider him a hero. 01:00:36.940 --> 01:00:40.563 Yeah, I don't really I don't necessarily want to talk about the person in the 01:00:40.563 --> 01:00:43.465 photograph I want to talk more about the photograph, but we can get to the person 01:00:43.465 --> 01:00:49.690 if you want But like my first thought was like that glare It was intentional 01:00:49.690 --> 01:00:51.531 makes well Oh, shit. Yeah, absolutely. 01:00:52.832 --> 01:00:55.694 Makes me feel like I shouldn't be looking at this photo. Makes me feel like 01:00:55.694 --> 01:00:59.157 wrong for looking at the photo. That was my first visible reaction. 01:00:59.717 --> 01:01:05.581 And then one of my coworkers found this comparison that it's the Kubrick stare. 01:01:07.083 --> 01:01:13.547 Stanley Kubrick. And then they had it right beside Private Pyle doing the stare 01:01:13.547 --> 01:01:19.871 at the end, you know, like head tilted forward, eyes up, basically peak maniasy, right? 01:01:20.112 --> 01:01:27.976 And then there's a shot from Clockwork Orange and a shot from Jack Nicholson one. 01:01:27.976 --> 01:01:31.298 Maybe I'm adding my own thing to it, but it just looked like a petulant five-year-old 01:01:31.298 --> 01:01:35.501 to me. Like just a, like, it was like, man, you took away my dump truck. 01:01:35.501 --> 01:01:37.102 Pretty much what the person is, isn't it? 01:01:45.408 --> 01:01:45.708 Exactly. 01:01:45.708 --> 01:01:51.670 Well, yeah, absolutely. Kubrick stare. So, I don't know, he's going for a menacing 01:01:51.670 --> 01:01:55.112 quality to it, but I'm just not afraid of the guy anymore. 01:01:56.938 --> 01:02:04.064 I mean, I'm, I'm more afraid of the people who he can influence, 01:02:04.064 --> 01:02:05.564 influence, but yeah, kinda. 01:02:05.564 --> 01:02:10.529 All right. I'm seeing that, that, that comparison and I guess, 01:02:10.529 --> 01:02:11.770 but again, I think it's, it's, 01:02:12.220 --> 01:02:17.985 a, it's a bit of a stretch, but people are just going to put, 01:02:17.985 --> 01:02:21.838 he looks a lot like private pile, like more than the other two, 01:02:21.838 --> 01:02:22.558 more than Jack Nicholson. 01:02:22.558 --> 01:02:26.561 People are just gonna put whatever they want to and on that and that was the 01:02:26.561 --> 01:02:28.403 point It's why he didn't like do a smile like, 01:02:28.403 --> 01:02:31.145 you know or anything like that because he wanted to get 01:02:31.145 --> 01:02:34.267 across that he's fighting What what's 01:02:34.267 --> 01:02:37.950 what was funny to me is he put his first he actually did a Twitter post which 01:02:37.950 --> 01:02:41.853 Kind of shocked me because I and I don't suspect he'll do many more of them 01:02:41.853 --> 01:02:47.577 because I I don't think like he has his own little Fiefdom however dumb it is 01:02:47.577 --> 01:02:52.261 a torture social why would he go to another network where somebody could still kick him off? Right? 01:02:52.601 --> 01:02:55.804 Why would he ever go to that again? 01:02:56.364 --> 01:03:01.428 I think he was just using it to put that out. I definitely expect people to 01:03:01.428 --> 01:03:03.869 put that on T-shirts and stuff like that. 01:03:04.711 --> 01:03:06.331 Both people who support him and who don't. 01:03:09.975 --> 01:03:13.356 And the the message that he put out, though, was election interference. 01:03:18.861 --> 01:03:23.723 Never surrender exclamation point Donald J. Trump dot com and I'm not the only 01:03:23.723 --> 01:03:24.724 one who noticed this, but it did 01:03:24.724 --> 01:03:28.265 seem funny that this was a picture of him surrendering to the authorities. 01:03:32.388 --> 01:03:33.709 So, the never surrender. 01:03:34.369 --> 01:03:38.792 Facts get in the way of a good story and surrendering for what he's accused 01:03:38.792 --> 01:03:39.592 of election interference. 01:03:45.496 --> 01:03:50.078 So and I keep remembering this tweet he did way back when in his presidency 01:03:50.078 --> 01:03:57.287 where he tweeted presidential harassment exclamation point like the sense with 01:03:57.287 --> 01:04:01.006 the most powerful person in the free world is like, oh my God, I'm being harassed. 01:04:03.107 --> 01:04:09.592 Just a whiny little bitch. Sorry to anybody who still for some reason likes the guy. 01:04:15.776 --> 01:04:20.259 Obviously the people in this room don't Yeah, the 01:04:20.259 --> 01:04:29.566 people in this room are not fans Shit we're we went to Hitchhiker stop the food 01:04:29.566 --> 01:04:32.809 truck have some dinner yesterday and some beers first time a hitchhiker since 01:04:32.809 --> 01:04:37.079 got back from vacation But her phone popped up a notification and it's like, 01:04:37.079 --> 01:04:39.334 you know, it said Trump's mugged shot blah blah blah. 01:04:39.334 --> 01:04:47.986 Mm-hmm And my eyes only caught Trump shot Hello skip it skip a beat Yeah, 01:04:47.986 --> 01:04:53.059 yeah, I'm like they shouldn't put that in the notification people are getting excited. 01:04:57.364 --> 01:05:00.486 It, I mean, it, all in all, it's, 01:05:00.486 --> 01:05:03.549 it's much more important that he got indicted than the, the, 01:05:03.549 --> 01:05:10.935 the mugshot itself, but hey, I understand to a point, this is the news has to, 01:05:10.935 --> 01:05:15.278 they have to make a story about everything and they got to get your eyes, 01:05:15.278 --> 01:05:17.680 so they'll do whatever they can. 01:05:18.021 --> 01:05:21.643 And this is, I mean, this is a, this is a story. 01:05:22.324 --> 01:05:23.865 There's no doubt this is a story. 01:05:23.865 --> 01:05:28.308 It's a sad story. story. It's a pathetic story about our country. 01:05:28.308 --> 01:05:33.953 It's a story that will still entice you to to watch. And that's important. 01:05:34.313 --> 01:05:37.996 Whatever it's about, it's a story that is intriguing in some way. 01:05:40.658 --> 01:05:46.382 I do like how the president can't pardon Georgia election, Georgia state crimes. 01:05:48.244 --> 01:05:51.386 So so he still has to be convicted. He's still innocent until proven guilty. 01:05:53.407 --> 01:05:59.831 What's there, so that's, what's this next part of the homestead hearth going 01:05:59.831 --> 01:06:01.532 from a farm to a homestead. 01:06:02.613 --> 01:06:04.034 Oh, stand on track now. 01:06:04.034 --> 01:06:14.661 Bellflower brewing. Okay, so we're going barley wine. So we're, so we're going from 10.5. 01:06:14.661 --> 01:06:14.781 To 12.5. 01:06:14.781 --> 01:06:19.344 Oh my gosh, turn it up to a skipped 11 we're Bring it up to 12. 01:06:19.344 --> 01:06:28.072 So let's see, uh, English malts, house yeast from barreled souls. 01:06:28.072 --> 01:06:39.403 And yeah. Another darker one, this one a little bit more dark. 01:06:39.403 --> 01:06:42.735 This one a little bit more in like the, the tannish toffee ish color. 01:06:46.774 --> 01:06:48.395 Not a lot of sour on this one. 01:06:49.356 --> 01:06:54.380 No, no you get you get a malt but not in that like bread pudding super juicy 01:06:54.380 --> 01:07:00.665 sweet Syrupy malt like we got last week from the Sabago That was barrel aged 01:07:00.665 --> 01:07:02.206 that probably helped that get there. 01:07:02.606 --> 01:07:08.951 This one has more of a Almost like a effervescent spritey kind of fizz malt 01:07:08.951 --> 01:07:13.575 aroma like there's a carbonic or like a Lemon essence to the nose. 01:07:13.575 --> 01:07:18.238 I'm letting this warm up a bit but it still felt a little cold, 01:07:18.238 --> 01:07:19.339 even though it's been out for a while. 01:07:23.102 --> 01:07:25.904 I'm pulling some dark chocolate out on the nose. For sure. 01:07:25.904 --> 01:07:29.167 Yeah, I'm pulling something like Hershey's. 01:07:29.167 --> 01:07:32.749 Hershey's? Yeah. It's milk chocolate. 01:07:33.570 --> 01:07:35.451 There's a sweetness here that I'm mostly getting. 01:07:35.451 --> 01:07:39.034 More like a chocolate chip morsel. If we're gonna, we're really gonna dig into it. 01:07:39.195 --> 01:07:39.975 Okay, yeah, no. 01:07:39.975 --> 01:07:42.997 I'm not trying to be contrite, but we're really gonna dig into it like chocolate 01:07:42.997 --> 01:07:44.438 chip morsels is what I'm smelling. 01:07:44.438 --> 01:07:46.012 You're like a Toll House. Toll House. 01:07:46.012 --> 01:07:46.359 Yeah. 01:07:46.359 --> 01:07:46.660 Yeah. 01:07:49.442 --> 01:07:51.463 But just the chips, not like the cookie. 01:07:51.803 --> 01:07:58.768 No, just the chips, right out of the bag. Semi-sweet morsels. 01:07:58.768 --> 01:08:02.731 I'm getting away from that chocolate now. I'm more, the malts kind of opening up for me more. 01:08:02.731 --> 01:08:07.615 I'm getting more of kind of a biscuity cracker, not bread pudding like last 01:08:07.615 --> 01:08:12.879 time. It's definitely a drier, still a sweet bread of sorts, 01:08:12.879 --> 01:08:14.760 but kind of a drier formulation of it. 01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:19.684 Yeah, a little bit of a, a little bit of maybe a raisin bread, 01:08:19.684 --> 01:08:20.985 like a cinnamon raisin bread thing. 01:08:20.985 --> 01:08:24.088 Okay. 01:08:24.088 --> 01:08:29.972 Yeah, or- Maybe a little muffin-y. Those Bellavia blueberry wafers that we have for breakfast. 01:08:29.972 --> 01:08:30.792 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:08:30.792 --> 01:08:31.713 Kind of like those kind of crackers. 01:08:32.314 --> 01:08:37.590 Oh, blueberry. Oh yeah. Blueberry muffin, maybe. 01:08:40.874 --> 01:08:44.777 Actually, I think that's a really good description blueberry muffin. 01:08:44.777 --> 01:08:53.083 I don't even taste it yet, but it's not wrong Goes kind of sweet at the end 01:08:53.083 --> 01:08:55.826 though almost a little bit saccharine II. 01:08:57.047 --> 01:09:03.451 Yeah, it's it's it's it's more see, I'm gonna try to work some carbonation out 01:09:03.451 --> 01:09:06.614 of this because it it's too drying for me and 01:09:06.654 --> 01:09:13.099 And I don't enjoy like the luscious hug of a barley wine as much, 01:09:13.099 --> 01:09:15.691 cause I feel like the carbonation might be scrubbing my tongue. 01:09:15.691 --> 01:09:20.465 I think you might be right. There's little I can do, like I would rather the 01:09:20.465 --> 01:09:25.409 beer have more body, but one of the things we can do is if we swirl out some 01:09:25.409 --> 01:09:30.673 of the bubbles, it might not scrub as hard and it might come across more soft and sweet. 01:09:31.253 --> 01:09:35.236 Technically what we're doing, for those who care about it, is we're agitating the beer considerably. 01:09:35.636 --> 01:09:42.651 what should allow more nucleation so that the solution will let go of more of 01:09:42.651 --> 01:09:44.703 the carbon dioxide that is inside the solution. 01:09:51.267 --> 01:09:53.429 For all those who like a little bit of their science corner. 01:10:00.934 --> 01:10:07.839 That helped a lot for me. Yeah. Beer sticks around longer, doesn't get scrubbed off your tongue. 01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:10.882 I think it's just like a blueberry muffin. 01:10:10.902 --> 01:10:14.084 It's not exactly what I hoped it would be, but it's a lot closer. 01:10:16.626 --> 01:10:19.148 A blueberry muffin that was baked in a barrel. 01:10:19.148 --> 01:10:20.739 Yes. 01:10:20.739 --> 01:10:22.331 Okay. 01:10:22.331 --> 01:10:25.533 Now I round us on that. Cause I was feeling the blueberry muffin thing, 01:10:25.533 --> 01:10:30.977 but there was something else. And yeah, it's that woody, oaky thing that's also attached to here. 01:10:31.358 --> 01:10:35.321 And then I think it ends really sweet. like, almost like sweet and low, 01:10:35.321 --> 01:10:37.483 like a artificial sweet. 01:10:38.103 --> 01:10:41.225 Oh, now, see, I don't get that. I'm not picking up on the artificial... 01:10:41.626 --> 01:10:44.108 I'm getting way less of it. 01:10:44.108 --> 01:10:48.431 It's not the artificial-ness, it's the sweetness, because artificial sweeter 01:10:48.431 --> 01:10:52.094 is like a thousand times sweeter than sugar. It's the amount of sweetness, 01:10:52.094 --> 01:10:54.194 and not any chemical artificial. Okay, okay. 01:11:01.266 --> 01:11:10.832 Yeah, there's a little, like, I guess woodiness, kind of like cedar. 01:11:10.832 --> 01:11:14.915 I don't think this beer is barrel-aged, but like in the flavor, 01:11:14.915 --> 01:11:18.878 from the way the malt's expressing itself and the way the dry finishes, 01:11:18.878 --> 01:11:22.961 it's almost like, you know, dry wood planks. 01:11:22.961 --> 01:11:27.264 There's almost like a cedar-y kind of thing, like almost imagining like looking 01:11:27.264 --> 01:11:29.766 on a closet wall, you know, that kind of thing. 01:11:30.007 --> 01:11:34.590 I think at least in the beginning it's hot pretty well because it it it's pretty 01:11:34.590 --> 01:11:41.595 balanced at the start. It's just that ending that seems to I don't know go too sweet for me. 01:11:43.837 --> 01:11:49.341 But I am thinking dates Oh, no, okay. 01:11:53.785 --> 01:11:55.446 Dates and chilled monkey brains. 01:11:58.887 --> 01:12:01.508 Doom baby for all those who don't get the reference. 01:12:05.270 --> 01:12:08.151 Turns out, one of the better Indiana Jones movies. 01:12:10.012 --> 01:12:14.274 Who would have thought? In the first three years, the Temple of Doom would would 01:12:14.274 --> 01:12:15.254 be one of the better ones. 01:12:15.254 --> 01:12:15.615 Right. 01:12:21.569 --> 01:12:28.514 I really like this We have a few more of these I think I think with these i'm 01:12:28.514 --> 01:12:33.378 looking forward to Cellaring some of these, you know putting them away. 01:12:33.558 --> 01:12:34.339 I didn't do it. 01:12:34.339 --> 01:12:40.924 Oh, we can drink them if you want. I think this Is celery a can gonna do anything? Sure. Why not? 01:12:41.325 --> 01:12:46.208 especially if the oxygen infiltration is as high or the oxygen upon canning 01:12:46.208 --> 01:12:49.851 is as high as You know, like we've had conversations with Craig in the past 01:12:49.851 --> 01:12:53.954 about how that's like the dirty little secret canning beers and things like that. 01:12:53.954 --> 01:12:58.397 So it feels like if you're doing a canning, you should be putting nitrogen in there. 01:13:00.878 --> 01:13:08.343 I mean, you would presume they would have a curtain of CO2 on the beer or foam 01:13:08.343 --> 01:13:09.644 cap, like how they cap on foam. 01:13:09.644 --> 01:13:14.987 So when bottling lines bottle bottles, they fill the beer into the bottle, 01:13:14.987 --> 01:13:18.430 beer's cold, and so it keeps it from foaming. 01:13:18.430 --> 01:13:23.213 But right before the cap goes on, they shoot a jet of CO2 down into the bottle 01:13:23.213 --> 01:13:28.236 to cause it to foam over, and they throw the cap on the foam and crimp it down. 01:13:28.577 --> 01:13:34.260 So all the oxygen is purged by the foam pushing it out. That's how bottling 01:13:34.260 --> 01:13:38.503 lines generally work, right? That's cool. 01:13:38.503 --> 01:13:39.103 That's cool. 01:13:42.646 --> 01:13:46.929 And I don't have as much experience up close and personal watching canning lines. 01:13:49.111 --> 01:13:52.673 I presume instead of causing it to foam over, they would more so just put a 01:13:52.673 --> 01:13:56.135 blanket of CO2 down on the top of the beer before they, you know, 01:13:56.135 --> 01:14:01.859 like have a little thing that kind of flows it out instead of jets it out. But I don't know. 01:14:02.780 --> 01:14:04.241 And- I'd be curious to know. 01:14:05.942 --> 01:14:07.863 Would you? Yeah. CO2 is heavier than air, right? 01:14:07.863 --> 01:14:15.389 So it should, you can make a cushion, a blanket, a jacket is what it's generally 01:14:15.389 --> 01:14:18.932 called when you're doing things like welding and stuff, it's an air jacket or a gas jacket. 01:14:22.415 --> 01:14:23.855 That is really drinkable. 01:14:23.855 --> 01:14:24.516 I'm glad. 01:14:24.516 --> 01:14:26.329 I'm the first one to finish. Yeah. 01:14:26.329 --> 01:14:29.820 Awesome. Cheers. You want mine? Yeah. 01:14:29.820 --> 01:14:31.101 Sure. If you don't want it. 01:14:31.101 --> 01:14:32.382 You love it. Go for it. 01:14:34.124 --> 01:14:39.598 That's a good thing that I was thinking when you said we needed to put some of these aside. 01:14:40.069 --> 01:14:43.151 It was a good thing that I hadn't opened one of these already, 01:14:43.151 --> 01:14:45.292 because we wouldn't have one for the show. 01:14:46.714 --> 01:14:48.535 Now you're telling me you want to put some aside. 01:14:49.296 --> 01:14:54.079 I just think that- We just have to go back. I'd be really curious to see how this one ages. 01:14:54.459 --> 01:15:03.726 Yeah, and back to Greg's point, I don't have success stories of aging canned 01:15:03.726 --> 01:15:07.689 barley wines. This would be the kind of first experiment to do that, so. 01:15:08.652 --> 01:15:09.874 Anybody want any more of this? 01:15:09.874 --> 01:15:10.577 No? 01:15:10.577 --> 01:15:13.102 All right. All right, yeah, 01:15:15.346 --> 01:15:17.988 Not that there's that much. Oh, you're a bit. 01:15:19.550 --> 01:15:23.192 I'll take it All right, definitely so now we can't go into the next beer because 01:15:23.192 --> 01:15:27.535 shan's got a few ounces of beer Oh, yeah, talk about video games or let's talk 01:15:27.535 --> 01:15:31.658 about greg's t-shirt Oh, this is a i've had this issue for a long time. 01:15:31.839 --> 01:15:36.502 I got a walmart believe it or not I get compliments on it all the time. 01:15:36.502 --> 01:15:42.667 It's it's like I don't know a cat with a biggie smalls pose um Like gangster king. 01:15:42.667 --> 01:15:48.511 Yeah, he's got sunglasses on and a king and, but it's a cat and yeah, 01:15:48.511 --> 01:15:51.954 no, it's just a, it's a silly little shirt that people compliment about all 01:15:51.954 --> 01:15:54.596 the time. So keep wearing it. 01:15:54.596 --> 01:15:54.916 It's so. 01:15:54.916 --> 01:15:56.077 I like it. I like it. 01:15:57.278 --> 01:16:00.900 The shirt that I have that I get the most compliments on, it's crazy. 01:16:00.900 --> 01:16:07.145 So when Four Seasons Total Landscaping happened, it happened like on Saturday or Sunday, right? 01:16:07.646 --> 01:16:11.869 So you've seen the shirt that I made with my vinyl cutter and heat press and 01:16:11.869 --> 01:16:13.750 irons and stuff. So I made this iron-on. 01:16:13.750 --> 01:16:14.231 The same day. 01:16:14.231 --> 01:16:15.311 So, is that? 01:16:15.692 --> 01:16:16.573 On the same day. 01:16:16.573 --> 01:16:21.236 On the same day. Because we were working from home and I have daily stand-ups 01:16:21.236 --> 01:16:26.460 every day and I know the politics of my team and I thought it would be the best 01:16:26.460 --> 01:16:29.563 to wear that on stand-up the next day. 01:16:29.903 --> 01:16:32.745 Because, sure, people made T-shirts, you could buy T-shirts, 01:16:32.745 --> 01:16:34.987 but you weren't gonna have them that Monday. 01:16:34.987 --> 01:16:38.549 So I made the shirt at 9 45 in the morning, especially. 01:16:40.431 --> 01:16:44.154 I mean, you might have the night before, I know, but nobody else is going to 01:16:44.154 --> 01:16:47.476 have one by 9, 5 AM the next day. Yeah. 01:16:47.476 --> 01:16:47.856 Yeah. 01:16:47.856 --> 01:16:48.597 Yeah. Yeah. 01:16:48.597 --> 01:16:53.460 So I made a four seasons, totally unscaping shirt. It wasn't any of the fancy 01:16:53.460 --> 01:16:58.244 ones. Like there was ones with like, so in Philly it happened in Philadelphia 01:16:58.244 --> 01:17:02.327 and the Philadelphia Flyers have this mascot called gritty McNasty. 01:17:03.788 --> 01:17:08.902 Oh, that's, that's the, the icon that I use at work for my, like, 01:17:08.902 --> 01:17:14.491 avatar is, is like a really close up of just like the eyes and the mouth. Okay. 01:17:14.491 --> 01:17:20.821 Yeah. So, so Gritty McNasty is this unhinged Muppet that the Flyers have because 01:17:20.821 --> 01:17:24.344 the Flyers have the Philadelphia Fanatic, which is another weird mascot. 01:17:24.344 --> 01:17:26.766 So they came up with Gritty. The Phillies, you mean. I'm sorry, 01:17:26.766 --> 01:17:28.147 Phillies. Yes. The baseball team. 01:17:29.028 --> 01:17:32.724 And, um, so Gritty McNasty is the hockey team's, um, 01:17:32.724 --> 01:17:42.658 mascot, but on like, like crazy left internet culture, Gritty has become a, 01:17:42.658 --> 01:17:45.860 the socialist hero for the workers. 01:17:45.860 --> 01:17:49.663 So like, you know, comrade Gritty and stuff like that. 01:17:49.663 --> 01:17:52.325 Oh, gross. 01:17:52.325 --> 01:17:52.986 You You don't know this? 01:17:52.986 --> 01:17:58.509 I just think it's gross to, to, to take something like that and, 01:17:58.509 --> 01:18:02.612 you know, turn it into, especially Like, look. 01:18:04.947 --> 01:18:08.769 I don't want to get too deep into politics, but if you're some sort of socialist thing, 01:18:08.769 --> 01:18:13.913 then to take a, a, a character that's being used as a commercial thing and turn 01:18:13.913 --> 01:18:18.536 them into a communist like thing, 01:18:18.536 --> 01:18:24.774 it just feels wrong from the, from the start, but also it just feels like just 01:18:24.774 --> 01:18:31.485 a weird kind of like attempted appropriation of popular culture. 01:18:32.326 --> 01:18:36.679 The memes are great. I'll show you some memes afterwards. Maybe I can, 01:18:36.679 --> 01:18:37.790 maybe I can open your mind. 01:18:38.470 --> 01:18:43.634 It has to be a really good meme for me to like it. Cause I find that most memes 01:18:43.634 --> 01:18:46.755 are way too juvenile for me to really get. 01:18:46.755 --> 01:18:50.658 All right. All right. Well, all the listeners at home, check out the comrade gritty memes. 01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:55.822 See if you disagree. I love them. I mean in an ironic way, it's not like, 01:18:55.822 --> 01:19:01.946 I'm like, think that he's the way to, um, you know, overthrow the bourgeoisie or whatever. 01:19:01.946 --> 01:19:04.888 You know which Gritty I like? Gritty's Nuts. 01:19:05.329 --> 01:19:09.612 Gritty's Nuts. Anyway, long story. Got into Gritty because a lot of the ones 01:19:09.612 --> 01:19:12.795 being sold were gritty on a lawnmower and stuff like that. I just made a text 01:19:12.795 --> 01:19:16.137 one. It said, four seasons total landscaping. 01:19:17.349 --> 01:19:21.541 And then I said, in parentheses, and conference center, question mark? 01:19:22.242 --> 01:19:25.805 And then in like italicies underneath that, it was right between the crematory 01:19:25.805 --> 01:19:26.765 and the adult bookstore. 01:19:27.326 --> 01:19:32.812 Yeah, I just love thinking about Like how that happened because clearly. 01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:39.741 Like, OK, we need to do a press conference. 01:19:41.763 --> 01:19:46.826 And so let's get the four seasons. And they called just the first like four 01:19:46.826 --> 01:19:50.629 seasons that came up in. I don't know what Google search, like the Google search. 01:19:51.190 --> 01:19:55.813 And can we do a press conference? Would you be, you know, do you have room for us to press? 01:19:55.813 --> 01:19:57.195 Of course they do. 01:19:57.195 --> 01:20:02.118 Yeah, sure. Wait, for how much? Oh, you know, we'll give you, 01:20:02.118 --> 01:20:05.621 you know, ten grand. And they're like, yeah, no problem. And they're like, 01:20:05.621 --> 01:20:08.483 great. And then they're like, yeah, send out everything. We're going to be at 01:20:08.483 --> 01:20:10.665 the Four Seasons. And then they, like, realize. 01:20:13.467 --> 01:20:17.050 And then they probably call the actual Four Seasons and the Four Seasons like, 01:20:17.050 --> 01:20:18.291 no, we don't have any space for you. 01:20:18.771 --> 01:20:23.494 What, tomorrow? No, it doesn't matter how much you're paying us. 01:20:23.715 --> 01:20:27.598 We've got other clients. And also, this thing is sketchy anyway. 01:20:27.598 --> 01:20:28.859 We don't really want to be involved. 01:20:29.119 --> 01:20:33.882 And so they're like, well, we still have the spot at the Four Seasons. 01:20:33.882 --> 01:20:37.445 We meant to do it at the landscaping company. This was what we wanted to do. 01:20:37.445 --> 01:20:43.090 This is what we planned all along. The funny thing is that it's been how many 01:20:43.090 --> 01:20:47.073 years since that happened and we're still talking about it and every single 01:20:47.073 --> 01:20:48.874 time you wear that shirt in public. 01:20:49.014 --> 01:20:55.679 It's not hyperbole. It's not literally true, but like 80% of the times I wear 01:20:55.679 --> 01:20:57.760 that shirt out, I get a comment. 01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:00.512 Yeah. In a positive way. 01:21:00.512 --> 01:21:01.343 Yeah, yeah. 01:21:01.343 --> 01:21:03.644 I love the shirt. That's a great shirt. 01:21:03.644 --> 01:21:08.587 I mean, the other weird irony to me is, okay, that was, you know, 01:21:08.587 --> 01:21:11.908 such a big thing and everybody knows about it, whatever side you're on. That, 01:21:15.747 --> 01:21:20.691 I always found it weird that Trump is like two people who like him, 01:21:20.691 --> 01:21:25.154 a hero of the working class, even though he's a billionaire who clearly despises them. 01:21:25.154 --> 01:21:32.079 But also, he chooses to do his announcement at the Four Seasons. 01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:37.863 What working class hero is like, I'm going to make sure I do my announcement at the Four Seasons? 01:21:38.784 --> 01:21:42.827 That's kind of nonsense, but everybody knows that this guy, that's what he wanted to do. 01:21:42.928 --> 01:21:46.410 Yeah, oh, it's Trump's brand right premium brand like, you know, 01:21:46.410 --> 01:21:51.234 if there's not a Why didn't he have it at Trump Tower in New York City? 01:21:51.234 --> 01:21:53.155 Why'd I be in Philly? I don't get that. 01:21:53.155 --> 01:21:56.418 I don't know Well, no, I think this Pennsylvania was one of the states, right? 01:21:58.841 --> 01:22:03.103 So Yeah, and particularly that that County the kind of Philadelphia's in it 01:22:03.103 --> 01:22:08.285 yeah, he needed to yeah, so but like still just Yeah, I very, very weird. 01:22:17.474 --> 01:22:22.451 I'm perplexed by it. And you know, Nick, when I posted the thing about it, 01:22:22.451 --> 01:22:26.220 Nick said, what are you surprised when I was like, no, I'm not surprised. 01:22:26.220 --> 01:22:27.321 I'm more perplexed by it. 01:22:27.321 --> 01:22:30.864 I was just going to say, are you sure? Are you surprised at all? 01:22:30.864 --> 01:22:34.927 But just just anything at anything just confused. 01:22:34.987 --> 01:22:36.828 Just like the man does just just. 01:22:38.370 --> 01:22:42.533 I mean, we really shouldn't go up. The perplexion is that he hasn't cratered 01:22:42.533 --> 01:22:45.795 and become just a laughingstock by 99% of the population. Yeah, 01:22:45.795 --> 01:22:46.876 yeah. That's the perplexing part. 01:22:46.876 --> 01:22:49.959 That is, definitely. 01:22:49.959 --> 01:22:55.443 Right. But this is, I mean, this is a very clear example. 01:22:56.184 --> 01:22:57.024 Of how sad. 01:22:57.885 --> 01:22:59.065 Of how religion starts. 01:23:07.519 --> 01:23:10.190 Not wrong, no, he's not wrong. 01:23:13.171 --> 01:23:14.071 Hello, my name. 01:23:15.591 --> 01:23:17.272 So we're finishing up with unbeknownst. 01:23:20.091 --> 01:23:20.651 I'm sorry. 01:23:20.651 --> 01:23:23.774 From Oxbow Beer. This is a... 01:23:26.276 --> 01:23:30.986 Is it Oxbow or Oxbow? Because I pronounce it Oxbow. Okay. 01:23:30.986 --> 01:23:33.201 Oxbow. Bow. 01:23:33.201 --> 01:23:34.302 Could be bow. 01:23:34.302 --> 01:23:36.383 It could be, but I like ox. 01:23:36.483 --> 01:23:39.445 That's an interesting question. I mean, it's a thing. 01:23:40.727 --> 01:23:44.849 Oxbow, oxbow is a noun for a river thing, I think. 01:23:44.849 --> 01:23:46.931 Jeff, we have to go back and we have to ask them. 01:23:46.931 --> 01:23:50.889 Or we could just see what the proper, what the noun is, but no, 01:23:50.889 --> 01:23:53.115 I think we just need to go back to Portland. 01:23:53.396 --> 01:23:57.138 One thing that my nearly 47 years on this earth has taught me is that pronunciation. 01:24:00.981 --> 01:24:01.962 Don't worry about it. 01:24:05.244 --> 01:24:07.245 I need to go back and find out. 01:24:07.245 --> 01:24:11.058 Don't get over confused about it because it changes all the time. 01:24:11.058 --> 01:24:14.951 Can we just settle on the fact that we need to go back and find out? 01:24:14.951 --> 01:24:22.657 We can we can do that. I mean it sounds like a long trip Profitable profitable how well, 01:24:22.657 --> 01:24:27.201 okay Okay 01:24:27.201 --> 01:24:35.787 profitable for oxbow People were paying money to You pace it's good for my soul 01:24:35.787 --> 01:24:38.429 piece of wood placed under and 01:24:38.429 --> 01:24:46.074 around the neck of an ox With its upper ends in the air air of the oak. 01:24:46.394 --> 01:24:48.955 What if you're bowing before an ox? 01:24:49.755 --> 01:24:50.696 Well, who does that? 01:24:50.696 --> 01:24:53.967 I don't know, but if, you know, Dennison Oxbow, right? 01:24:53.967 --> 01:24:55.118 Yeah. I suppose. 01:24:58.461 --> 01:25:00.813 So there is a golden calf in the Bible. 01:25:04.196 --> 01:25:11.200 So an oxbow is also a river feature, but the river feature is named after the thing, 01:25:11.200 --> 01:25:16.215 the yoke, because it's shaped like a yoke where you have basically – I'm going 01:25:16.215 --> 01:25:20.366 to try to do this with words so the listeners know – but you have a river that 01:25:20.366 --> 01:25:23.318 has a curve that comes around almost 100, more than 180 degrees. 01:25:23.929 --> 01:25:28.612 So the two pieces of the river are narrower than where the curve is. 01:25:28.612 --> 01:25:29.493 Right? 01:25:29.493 --> 01:25:30.733 Can I see the picture? 01:25:30.733 --> 01:25:33.335 Sure. If I can, I can't really turn. 01:25:33.335 --> 01:25:36.617 No, I don't need to turn. I just need to be open. It's like a crescent, 01:25:36.617 --> 01:25:39.899 but more. Okay. Like a bigger crescent. 01:25:39.899 --> 01:25:44.002 It's like a super curve where the river almost comes back to touch itself. 01:25:44.002 --> 01:25:49.806 And then like the apex of the curve is wider than the narrowest part of the isthmus of the land. 01:25:50.207 --> 01:25:54.949 Um, is an oxbow, uh, or oxbow. Haven't, there's not a pronunciation. 01:25:54.949 --> 01:25:55.950 It's oxbow. Come on. 01:25:55.950 --> 01:26:00.373 It's oxbow. No, it's oxbow. Or os, yeah, os, osbow. 01:26:00.373 --> 01:26:00.794 Osbow. 01:26:00.794 --> 01:26:02.615 Osbow. 01:26:02.615 --> 01:26:06.258 Osboo. Osboo. 01:26:06.258 --> 01:26:08.079 Osboot. 01:26:08.079 --> 01:26:13.083 You can tell that we're, um, five drinks man on onset. 01:26:15.545 --> 01:26:19.648 So the the name of this is spelled out weirdly in turn on there, 01:26:19.648 --> 01:26:25.613 but they're all oxbow like features or close to it. They're they're they're 01:26:25.613 --> 01:26:26.954 ellipses. They're elliptical. 01:26:27.496 --> 01:26:28.417 I love that call. 01:26:29.617 --> 01:26:35.662 You are very observant, Mr. Weiss, for the record, most of the labels of oxbow 01:26:35.662 --> 01:26:38.984 brewing, you can't easily read the name of the beer. 01:26:40.166 --> 01:26:44.729 The colors are just so disjointed. If you don't have full color vision, 01:26:44.729 --> 01:26:47.872 God have mercy on your soul trying to read these. 01:26:48.512 --> 01:26:51.814 And I kind of clocked it right away, but that's, you know, I have good eyes. 01:26:52.466 --> 01:26:57.819 You have special eyes. He's special with his eyes. But yeah, all of them. 01:26:57.819 --> 01:26:58.980 Seven years old, no glasses. 01:26:59.501 --> 01:27:06.346 All of them are difficult to read. This one, like I knew, I saw most of the 01:27:06.346 --> 01:27:09.688 letters, but this B that looks like a three, I couldn't. 01:27:10.169 --> 01:27:12.310 It does, it really looks like a three. 01:27:12.310 --> 01:27:13.991 That kept me from figuring out what it was, but it's called Unbeknownst. 01:27:15.513 --> 01:27:17.994 And it is a barrel-aged farmhouse ale with honey. 01:27:17.994 --> 01:27:19.595 Oh, I've wrote urban health. 01:27:22.718 --> 01:27:26.321 Production time was 48 months. Enjoy within five years. 01:27:26.321 --> 01:27:28.603 Unbeknownst? Unbeknownst. 01:27:28.603 --> 01:27:29.903 This really is a farmhouse show. 01:27:32.006 --> 01:27:35.688 Like, a lot of these have been, you know, in the farmhouse. 01:27:35.688 --> 01:27:38.850 Get used to it, buddy. It's gonna be the rest of the refrigerator. 01:27:39.091 --> 01:27:41.813 And get used to it, everybody else who happens to be listening. 01:27:41.813 --> 01:27:42.713 Bring your own. 01:27:42.713 --> 01:27:47.617 I mean, we could just drink, Shannon and I can just drink these off the air if you want. 01:27:47.617 --> 01:27:48.638 Yeah, we could. 01:27:48.638 --> 01:27:51.960 I'm not complaining, I'm just, I'm pointing out. 01:27:52.521 --> 01:27:55.863 I really thought that we were going to have to run a U-Haul to bring everything back. 01:27:55.863 --> 01:27:56.304 A trailer. 01:27:56.966 --> 01:28:01.098 That would have been great because we would have months of money. No joke. 01:28:01.098 --> 01:28:05.691 I still don't have all, all the beers that I brought back still don't fit in the fridge. No. 01:28:05.691 --> 01:28:06.111 Wow. 01:28:06.973 --> 01:28:10.605 They're still- Well, great. Each show I put more beers in the fridge, 01:28:10.605 --> 01:28:13.647 but there's still some sitting out in the basement. 01:28:13.647 --> 01:28:15.219 Yeah. 01:28:15.219 --> 01:28:17.580 Well, I got to bring over more treats then too. 01:28:19.622 --> 01:28:24.305 I brought over a bit of a brisket that I made. Yeah, I can't wait to try that. 01:28:24.305 --> 01:28:30.450 Because people who may not be paying total attention, Shannon loves brisket, 01:28:30.450 --> 01:28:33.532 Greg loves brisket. I prefer pork barbecue. 01:28:33.912 --> 01:28:38.235 I just haven't had brisket that has changed my mind on that, right? 01:28:38.235 --> 01:28:40.297 That's because you're, oh, well. 01:28:40.297 --> 01:28:43.680 I will say this, it probably wasn't my best brisket I made. It's not, I don't think it's bad. 01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:46.622 I'm not gonna use this as my sole deciding arbiter. 01:28:46.983 --> 01:28:50.385 And it was frozen a bit, so I don't know how that's gonna change. 01:28:50.385 --> 01:28:53.307 Totally looking forward to try it. 01:28:53.768 --> 01:28:57.951 I want my mind changed. I want you to expose me to the brisket. 01:28:57.951 --> 01:28:59.812 They'd be like, oh, I get Texas now. 01:29:02.395 --> 01:29:06.178 Well, I mean, I don't have an outside thing I can use to smoke, 01:29:06.178 --> 01:29:10.361 so I'm using sort of artificial smoking methods. Oh, okay. 01:29:11.923 --> 01:29:13.664 And I'm trying to dial it in. 01:29:14.144 --> 01:29:17.647 Well, why haven't we used your brisket? 01:29:22.889 --> 01:29:25.390 recipe technique with our smoker and spend a day just like... 01:29:25.390 --> 01:29:27.352 Well, I don't know, because it's not like I do anything special, 01:29:27.352 --> 01:29:30.354 I just... It's just low and slow and you put a rub, you want to... 01:29:30.354 --> 01:29:32.436 I mean, I can make... There's nothing special I do. 01:29:32.436 --> 01:29:35.558 I can make brisket. Oh, yeah. If I'm the one prepared... 01:29:36.799 --> 01:29:42.884 Like, I'm going to, ten times out of ten, prefer to put the work into a pork 01:29:42.884 --> 01:29:44.225 shoulder than a brisket. And so... 01:29:44.466 --> 01:29:47.488 But if we work together and we make a brisket, we'll make a brisket. 01:29:47.488 --> 01:29:49.729 The problem is a brisket takes a day. I think we need to do that. 01:29:49.729 --> 01:29:50.730 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 01:29:50.730 --> 01:29:53.332 I mean, like a literal day. It takes 24 hours to get a brisket. 01:29:53.332 --> 01:29:54.713 Mm-hmm. 01:29:54.713 --> 01:29:54.953 So... 01:29:54.953 --> 01:29:58.085 How long do you, do you like, have to maint- do you... 01:29:59.376 --> 01:30:03.268 Sorry, I'm stuttering. Do you smoke it, like, do you have to maintain it each 01:30:03.268 --> 01:30:07.281 of the 24 hours, or do you wrap it after like half the time and just let it, 01:30:07.281 --> 01:30:10.043 you know, marinate for the rest of the day? 01:30:10.043 --> 01:30:12.725 So this one I actually wrapped, and it didn't take any less time. 01:30:12.725 --> 01:30:15.688 So... 01:30:15.688 --> 01:30:18.810 But you didn't have to stay awake 24 hours. and babysit at every hour. 01:30:18.810 --> 01:30:20.310 Well, you don't have to do that anyway. 01:30:20.310 --> 01:30:25.234 All right, so here's my pork shoulder recipe, right? Is the day before, 01:30:25.234 --> 01:30:30.038 I will take it out of the plastic, the cryopack, and I will dry it off and put 01:30:30.038 --> 01:30:37.564 a rub on it, and I will wrap it back up, and then let that sit for eight hours or so. 01:30:37.964 --> 01:30:41.587 And then in the morning, I'll bring out my smoker. My smoker is a super simple 01:30:41.587 --> 01:30:44.949 smoker. It doesn't have a temperature dial or anything. just either plugged 01:30:44.949 --> 01:30:45.840 in or it's not plugged in. 01:30:47.631 --> 01:30:53.475 Um, and I have usually hickory smoke. I make a mop with vinegar and brown sugar 01:30:53.475 --> 01:30:56.937 and pepper flakes and other things and pepper and salt and whatever. 01:30:57.918 --> 01:31:01.340 And I put the pork shoulder on the smoker. 01:31:02.141 --> 01:31:06.564 I'll mop it every 45 minutes for four sessions. 01:31:08.306 --> 01:31:14.167 I'll do four mops. After that, there's enough smoke on it that I will wrap it 01:31:14.167 --> 01:31:19.509 in foil and then just let it go until an hour before it's time to eat. 01:31:19.829 --> 01:31:23.050 So I'll let it go for another four, five, six hours, whatever, 01:31:23.050 --> 01:31:27.291 it doesn't seem to matter. Once it's wrapped in foil, a couple layers of foil, it. 01:31:29.145 --> 01:31:33.328 you keep the moisture, you don't get any appreciable drying, 01:31:33.328 --> 01:31:40.514 and you get maximum dissolving of any of the connective tissues and stuff like that. 01:31:40.514 --> 01:31:47.179 So that's my simple recipe, but I found no need to change it because it's really freaking good. 01:31:47.179 --> 01:31:48.820 It is really, really, really good. 01:31:48.820 --> 01:31:52.683 So the best brisket I ever had was our mutual friend Brian made it, and it was... 01:31:52.683 --> 01:31:54.645 Brian, which... 01:31:54.645 --> 01:31:55.526 Bashaw. Oh, okay. 01:31:55.526 --> 01:32:00.249 I wondered if it was the one I know. Oh, no. 01:32:00.249 --> 01:32:06.954 I mean, you may have crossed paths at the very beginning. He was one of the 01:32:06.954 --> 01:32:08.935 sales guys in Houston. Okay. 01:32:11.217 --> 01:32:18.723 So, he made this during extra life in Damien's smoker, 01:32:18.723 --> 01:32:23.766 and it took like 18 hours, but when When it came out, it had this incredible 01:32:23.766 --> 01:32:27.569 crust on it, and it was so smoky and delicious. It was so good. 01:32:28.890 --> 01:32:32.193 And he did it just basically low and slow, and then I think at the end, 01:32:32.193 --> 01:32:34.755 he pumped up the heat just a bit. 01:32:34.755 --> 01:32:35.896 To crust it, yeah. 01:32:35.896 --> 01:32:40.439 The best one I've made is not that one, but it was one that I basically put 01:32:40.439 --> 01:32:48.145 a rub on. In fact, it was Woley's Rub, Woley's Rub, with also an extra little 01:32:48.145 --> 01:32:50.647 bit of salt and pepper, and just let it go. 01:32:51.087 --> 01:32:56.471 put a thermometer in it and just let it go on 220 for, I think it took like 13 hours. 01:32:58.273 --> 01:33:04.857 This one, it took, I wrapped it when I got home from the show. Okay. 01:33:05.278 --> 01:33:11.002 It was already at like 166. 160 is kind of where, is the stall. 01:33:12.543 --> 01:33:16.868 So I thought that by rubbing it, by wrapping it, it would just, 01:33:16.868 --> 01:33:20.956 maybe I wrapped it before I left, I forget exactly what it was, 01:33:20.956 --> 01:33:23.379 but I wrapped it at some point and then. 01:33:27.001 --> 01:33:34.346 It took longer. It took like 27, 28 hours before it finally hit its time. 01:33:35.267 --> 01:33:39.790 I don't know what, what happened, but then also the, the bark was like wet. 01:33:39.931 --> 01:33:45.775 So I, I put it in under like in three 50 for like 20 minutes to, to, to slip by the bark. 01:33:46.115 --> 01:33:49.378 I just showed Greg, uh, I've been using this rub for my pork. 01:33:49.378 --> 01:33:53.681 It's a local place made here. I think it's here in Penn Hills. Uh, Uncle Jammies. 01:33:54.372 --> 01:33:58.605 Um, I used to make my own Rob from, you know, some recipe online. 01:33:59.105 --> 01:34:04.769 And one time I found this at the local place, like the, the local items at the supermarket. 01:34:05.350 --> 01:34:09.613 I'm like, let's give that a try. And it's cheap. It's really well. 01:34:09.874 --> 01:34:12.015 Um, so that's why I like the wall is when it's cheap. 01:34:12.015 --> 01:34:16.218 It works well. There's, there's not, I don't, I'm not, I don't think you have 01:34:16.218 --> 01:34:18.860 to like, you have to have your, your own ingredients. 01:34:19.842 --> 01:34:23.104 Like now if you find something that works, use it. Yeah. Uh, 01:34:23.104 --> 01:34:26.366 And the bark on the Woolies one is, I think, pretty good. 01:34:26.897 --> 01:34:30.770 Not as spicy as this one, because I can definitely smell the cayenne. 01:34:30.770 --> 01:34:33.192 Yeah. But it smells really good. 01:34:34.173 --> 01:34:39.096 He has different, this is the River City rub. He has different ones. 01:34:40.988 --> 01:34:43.660 Haven't gone through the whole bunch. This one seems like the one that's most 01:34:43.660 --> 01:34:47.323 makes sense for pork. So that's why I wanted that one. 01:34:47.323 --> 01:34:50.504 But brisket. Is my favorite. I love brisket. 01:34:51.546 --> 01:35:01.652 if I go to Like there's this place in my hometown in florida That I go to um 01:35:01.652 --> 01:35:07.937 and It's a barbecue place So they have everything every option I, 01:35:08.788 --> 01:35:10.598 i'm gonna choose the brisket. 01:35:10.598 --> 01:35:16.662 I'm going to choose the brisket Every time you cannot go wrong. 01:35:17.083 --> 01:35:21.426 It's it's so good but the only problem with brisket is if you don't do it low 01:35:21.426 --> 01:35:23.248 and slow, it turns out like a roast. 01:35:23.248 --> 01:35:23.788 Yeah. 01:35:26.351 --> 01:35:31.694 You've, if you don't know what you're doing, you're gonna fail making a brisket 01:35:31.694 --> 01:35:33.776 for sure. I love it though. 01:35:33.776 --> 01:35:40.081 And the roast is fine, but it's not a brisket. No. It's not the same thing at all. 01:35:40.341 --> 01:35:47.704 So you, yeah, so like I would say, this method of attempting to use artificial 01:35:47.704 --> 01:35:52.026 smoke is just my way of like, Okay, I live in an apartment. What am I gonna do? So. 01:35:58.641 --> 01:36:01.663 It's I'm trying different methods and I think I actually got more smoke flavor 01:36:01.663 --> 01:36:06.207 in this time But I still don't think it I think that the wrapping was a bad 01:36:06.207 --> 01:36:08.769 choice So I'm just you know, 01:36:08.769 --> 01:36:11.811 nailing in my technique The problem is of course every time I cook a brisket 01:36:11.811 --> 01:36:17.115 is gonna cost me 70 bucks or yeah, for sure But I get an amazing piece of meat 01:36:17.115 --> 01:36:18.877 afterwards I can use for a week. 01:36:21.400 --> 01:36:26.183 So And then we can And hopefully, then if I manage to be like, 01:36:26.183 --> 01:36:28.104 okay, remember to save some. 01:36:29.866 --> 01:36:32.267 All right, so this oxbow's been sitting in our glasses. 01:36:32.267 --> 01:36:33.528 Yeah, it should be good in. 01:36:34.049 --> 01:36:36.291 So this is a lighter color, so I would say. 01:36:37.952 --> 01:36:40.434 Well, it's darker than the Hill Farmstead. 01:36:40.434 --> 01:36:41.555 Yes. 01:36:41.555 --> 01:36:43.856 Anna and, what's that, Archibald? 01:36:45.218 --> 01:36:46.859 No, Arthur. It looks like an Arthur Palmer. 01:36:46.919 --> 01:36:51.222 So the main thing about this one was, it was a 500 milliliter bottle instead of a 750. 01:36:51.763 --> 01:36:57.447 So I poured the entire thing, including the hazy, cloudy, yeasty bits at the bottom. 01:36:57.447 --> 01:37:00.849 So we have that, where with the pocha- Which they're sitting on the top now. 01:37:00.849 --> 01:37:03.731 Yeah, and the pocha, when we drink the rest of Anna and Arthur, 01:37:03.731 --> 01:37:07.374 we'll get more of the cloudy stuff, super, super clear. I figured since this 01:37:07.374 --> 01:37:14.038 one is the, you know, funky oxbow thing, let's put some of the funky bits in. 01:37:14.599 --> 01:37:23.265 The aroma, what is that? There is this, What it's it's a thistle or it's um, 01:37:23.265 --> 01:37:29.108 that's all I know what I know what you're getting at thistle leather dusty. 01:37:31.650 --> 01:37:36.393 Now I'm pulling leather, definitely leather, but there's this like this like 01:37:36.393 --> 01:37:43.408 a vegetal thing there's an herbaceous or spice or a spice note to that leather 01:37:43.408 --> 01:37:49.402 spice though time Now I want to go pull some time out. 01:37:49.402 --> 01:37:53.845 I don't know if it's time. Something... Herby... Dry... 01:37:53.845 --> 01:37:57.198 The entire time we've been talking about meats and stuff, I've been smelling 01:37:57.198 --> 01:37:58.249 this, and there's that thing. 01:37:58.249 --> 01:37:58.999 Rosemary? 01:37:58.999 --> 01:38:03.453 No. No, it's definitely not rosemary. There's this thing that's off the edge 01:38:03.453 --> 01:38:05.054 of the leather woody thing. 01:38:05.054 --> 01:38:06.315 Time. I think it's time. 01:38:06.315 --> 01:38:08.016 It might... Let me go grab the time. 01:38:08.016 --> 01:38:08.857 Yeah. 01:38:08.857 --> 01:38:11.939 Although, the time might be past it's time. 01:38:11.939 --> 01:38:13.468 You'll still be able to get some of the... 01:38:13.932 --> 01:38:16.241 We'll work. We'll work at it. Let me get it. 01:38:19.156 --> 01:38:21.418 It almost... I don't know if you have marjoram? 01:38:21.418 --> 01:38:23.479 Yeah, I believe. 01:38:23.479 --> 01:38:28.483 We do, probably. It's one of those spices in there that I have no idea what 01:38:28.483 --> 01:38:29.864 to do with. What do you do with marjoram? 01:38:29.864 --> 01:38:35.228 It turns out to be amazing. I think it's got... it just has this punchiness. It's really good. 01:38:36.710 --> 01:38:42.934 What do you use it on? Like, where's your go-to? That jar is like... 01:38:42.934 --> 01:38:44.375 A little too resonating for the first time. 01:38:44.375 --> 01:38:44.755 Completely empty. 01:38:46.096 --> 01:38:48.277 I mean, it's... God knows. 01:38:48.277 --> 01:38:50.659 I know the aroma. Oh, it is. 01:38:50.659 --> 01:38:55.461 Why do we have an empty jar of so-called time jar because you use it for something? 01:38:55.702 --> 01:38:57.323 Well, we're trying to buy more time. 01:39:00.145 --> 01:39:00.725 Who is it? 01:39:00.725 --> 01:39:07.650 Right. See, now you're catching on to those jokes. I've been telling you in the Facebook reels. 01:39:08.150 --> 01:39:10.192 There's this thing that it's my guilty pleasure. 01:39:10.192 --> 01:39:10.912 It's shameful. 01:39:10.912 --> 01:39:15.475 It's these two guys shameful sitting on a dock drinking coffee and they tell 01:39:15.475 --> 01:39:22.473 these I'm gonna They tell these deadpan dad jokes, like, uh, 01:39:22.473 --> 01:39:25.743 what do you call a nun who sleepwalks? 01:39:29.646 --> 01:39:30.866 Uh, a nuncicle. I don't know. 01:39:30.866 --> 01:39:32.187 A Roman Catholic. 01:39:32.187 --> 01:39:35.870 Okay. 01:39:35.870 --> 01:39:37.131 Sure. Sure. Why not? 01:39:37.742 --> 01:39:41.654 Um, I mean, I smell, I have a real knack for knowing what's inside presents. 01:39:43.776 --> 01:39:44.456 It's a gift. 01:39:44.456 --> 01:39:47.499 Terrible. No. 01:39:49.761 --> 01:39:51.762 It's terrible, isn't it? It's good. It's so good. 01:39:51.762 --> 01:39:53.863 No. Okay. Give me, give me some more. 01:39:54.224 --> 01:39:56.865 I really enjoy this. Is Google a man or a woman? 01:39:57.916 --> 01:40:01.128 Is Google a man or a woman? 01:40:01.549 --> 01:40:04.971 It's a woman because you can't get a sentence out without suggesting something. 01:40:06.372 --> 01:40:12.196 That's not a dad joke. That's just a, uh, okay. Well, they're not dad jokes, but there are these. 01:40:13.177 --> 01:40:16.858 That's not a dad joke, that's just a dumb and misogynist joke. 01:40:16.858 --> 01:40:20.141 Yeah, okay. 01:40:20.141 --> 01:40:23.763 All right, I can't find marjoram, Jeff, you go see if you can find it, 01:40:23.763 --> 01:40:25.104 there's labels on everything. 01:40:25.104 --> 01:40:32.509 I'm not sure, I'm not positive we have it. My wife violently ripped the covers off of me last night. 01:40:33.069 --> 01:40:34.150 This is a true story. 01:40:34.150 --> 01:40:35.070 I will recover. 01:40:37.892 --> 01:40:43.285 It reminds me of an old joke I remember reading in a kid's book when I was like, 01:40:43.285 --> 01:40:46.017 I don't know, maybe 13. We were reading this kid's book of jokes. 01:40:46.017 --> 01:40:50.339 It was terrible. And then there was one joke that made us crack up. Just the setup. 01:40:51.540 --> 01:40:54.841 And the setup is, my dad beats me up every morning. 01:40:57.663 --> 01:41:01.104 That's the setup to the joke. My dad beats me up every morning. 01:41:01.104 --> 01:41:03.565 We were cracking up. Like, what the hell kind of joke is that? 01:41:03.565 --> 01:41:06.546 And the end is, he gets up at six, I get up at seven. 01:41:10.366 --> 01:41:13.388 Those are the jokes that this this Mario plays 01:41:13.388 --> 01:41:16.110 and I'm like oh that's corny but kind of 01:41:16.110 --> 01:41:20.513 cute and now it's like oh a new one I got to see what these jokes are it's like 01:41:20.513 --> 01:41:32.211 it's very kind of like guilty pleasure I asked Sam to sing me a song about the 01:41:32.211 --> 01:41:35.802 iPhone and then Samsung that's terrible That's awful. 01:41:48.513 --> 01:41:53.816 Noooooooooooooooo! You're tearing me apart. Okay, I'm done with the joke. 01:41:54.198 --> 01:41:57.439 Like I said, guilty pleasure. Where's that, where's that tearing me apart? 01:41:57.439 --> 01:42:01.663 Oh, good news. Good news. I have quit Justified City Primeval. 01:42:01.663 --> 01:42:04.145 You're tearing me apart, Lisa! 01:42:04.145 --> 01:42:04.765 You've quit? 01:42:04.765 --> 01:42:10.709 Okay, good. You get fed up and you're like, this is not worth it. Yeah. Four episodes. 01:42:11.631 --> 01:42:14.392 Not going to watch them. So you should be proud of me. I quit. 01:42:14.392 --> 01:42:17.134 I'm proud. I am proud. Yeah, because that's something that you have trouble 01:42:17.134 --> 01:42:22.818 doing. How do you still watching Survivor? No. OK, but it took you 30 something seasons. 01:42:22.818 --> 01:42:28.462 Probably. I don't know. All right. So I haven't tasted this. 01:42:28.462 --> 01:42:33.866 To be clear, I do think Survivor is an excellent show, an excellently designed 01:42:33.866 --> 01:42:35.348 show, an excellently made show. 01:42:35.348 --> 01:42:43.549 So I just think it's the same thing over and over again and I felt just the 01:42:43.549 --> 01:42:48.777 tension of watching it got too much for me and also there's an artificial bit 01:42:48.777 --> 01:42:51.018 to the editing that really kind of overwhelmed me. 01:42:51.339 --> 01:42:58.663 But I do think that it's a very artfully done show and it is like I am very, very impressed Bye. 01:43:02.970 --> 01:43:07.514 that they took this concept and made it as an, and really worked it. 01:43:07.815 --> 01:43:11.517 Yeah, no, they found a formula that works, that does, that can run during the 01:43:11.517 --> 01:43:16.441 writer's strikes and, uh, multiple now it's many writer's strikes. 01:43:17.042 --> 01:43:21.164 Um, and that there's a fundamentally great concept behind it and a great game 01:43:21.164 --> 01:43:23.006 there. The game we're talking about survivor. 01:43:23.006 --> 01:43:26.248 Okay. I just walked back into the show. 01:43:29.030 --> 01:43:32.673 It's, it's like a, it's like a Peloton, a bike race Peloton, 01:43:32.673 --> 01:43:35.495 Like, where do you need to be in the Peloton to win, you know? 01:43:35.956 --> 01:43:36.976 It's like that, because... 01:43:36.976 --> 01:43:38.718 Or horse racing like that, like, you know. 01:43:38.718 --> 01:43:42.340 If you go in too hot, you're going to burn out early. Right. 01:43:42.340 --> 01:43:45.943 You have to play all these strategies and different social dynamics. 01:43:47.484 --> 01:43:52.848 It is so good because it's such a dynamic, backstabbing game. 01:43:55.651 --> 01:43:59.573 And like, some people try to play it straight and form a strong alliance, 01:43:59.573 --> 01:44:03.896 but the alliance crumbles and you know, the, the, the thief always wins, 01:44:03.896 --> 01:44:06.158 you know, like, but not always. 01:44:06.158 --> 01:44:06.418 Yeah. 01:44:06.418 --> 01:44:07.159 But not always. 01:44:09.721 --> 01:44:14.464 And, and the people who generally play it best are the people who are really students of it, 01:44:14.464 --> 01:44:21.369 who've really like studied and figured out some way to either really play the 01:44:21.369 --> 01:44:25.592 game extraordinarily well, or to exploit something that somebody else hasn't thought of yet. 01:44:25.592 --> 01:44:28.023 But then you're also in a very stressful situation. 01:44:28.414 --> 01:44:28.954 Yes. 01:44:28.954 --> 01:44:34.918 With scant resources and whatnot, unlike Big Brother or something where it's 01:44:34.918 --> 01:44:38.560 just social dynamics and such a good game. 01:44:38.560 --> 01:44:42.029 All right, so what is the flavor in this beer? It's the same thing that's What's 01:44:42.029 --> 01:44:46.186 in the aroma? It's this weird, complex thing that... Gooseberries? 01:44:46.186 --> 01:44:47.186 I kind of think gooseberries. 01:44:50.280 --> 01:44:53.963 Tomato Whatever it is. I don't care for it. 01:44:54.504 --> 01:44:57.846 No, no, I don't know what that you're not getting it. 01:44:57.846 --> 01:45:01.069 It's not a fan Tomato No, 01:45:01.069 --> 01:45:07.614 there's a kind of joking kind of not there's this like earth like this tobacco 01:45:07.614 --> 01:45:14.479 you think but there's a big umami tomato hit there there's You know salt up 01:45:14.479 --> 01:45:20.123 a really not sour tomato or even a sour one, and you'll get this. 01:45:20.123 --> 01:45:25.307 Okay. 01:45:25.307 --> 01:45:26.618 It is a tomato paste. 01:45:27.649 --> 01:45:31.452 We have tomatoes. Do we need to salt up a tomato? 01:45:32.133 --> 01:45:35.655 Bring one out. I think that's what's here. 01:45:35.655 --> 01:45:36.735 What are you doing? 01:45:36.856 --> 01:45:37.997 I thought you didn't want it. 01:45:37.997 --> 01:45:39.538 You said you hated it. Well, I thought you were... 01:45:39.538 --> 01:45:45.222 There. I'm still trying to, I mean, I've had two sips. 01:45:45.222 --> 01:45:50.166 I'm still trying to analyze you were like just took my own gave you room to 01:45:50.166 --> 01:45:52.766 pour something you liked But okay, no, it's fine. 01:45:56.891 --> 01:45:58.231 I Don't get you guys, 01:46:05.357 --> 01:46:09.644 sometimes Anyway Back to the beer so yeah, like get some if you do you have 01:46:09.644 --> 01:46:12.644 some tomatoes Where where are they? 01:46:13.085 --> 01:46:16.092 Leave this. They're hiding. They're hiding. 01:46:22.407 --> 01:46:30.393 It's definitely deep umami it and and Yeah, I still think tomato I, 01:46:33.025 --> 01:46:47.185 I can yeah, I Think you're on to something I'm not a big I mean I'll be coming a fan. 01:46:47.706 --> 01:46:52.810 Well, oh Oh, that's what I was gonna say, but I am but I'm not I mean, 01:46:52.810 --> 01:47:01.016 I'm not gonna slice up a tomato and Just eat it like we're about to do I'll with salt Mm-hmm. 01:47:02.678 --> 01:47:08.022 Yeah, that's that's not what I do. Normally. I will soak it in like I, 01:47:10.334 --> 01:47:14.447 don't know Italian dressing Is that, 01:47:22.152 --> 01:47:22.972 oh Mm-hmm. 01:47:22.972 --> 01:47:25.194 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I have to get back to it. 01:47:25.194 --> 01:47:31.919 That's why I don't like it. I mean, actually, I've never salted a tomato. 01:47:32.359 --> 01:47:36.802 There's extra stuff there, but the umami thing is totally tomato. 01:47:36.802 --> 01:47:40.404 And the acidity is right in line with the tomato acid. 01:47:41.966 --> 01:47:50.972 And then there's that spicy thing, that ground imported, you know, 01:47:50.972 --> 01:47:56.156 from the West and East Indies, you know, kind of a spice thing that's in there. 01:47:56.156 --> 01:48:03.901 Yeah. Maybe a little clovey or, or, or all spicy or something like that. 01:48:03.901 --> 01:48:04.222 Yeah. 01:48:04.222 --> 01:48:06.704 Something like that. All spice, maybe. 01:48:09.467 --> 01:48:12.629 And then that's like the core, and then it goes into more traditional things 01:48:12.629 --> 01:48:18.493 that are in my vocabulary of dry leather, granite, you know, 01:48:18.493 --> 01:48:20.254 kind of mineral-y stuff like that. 01:48:20.254 --> 01:48:24.177 But especially this tomato aftertaste is just matching this exactly. 01:48:32.333 --> 01:48:35.375 Yeah, it's different. I'll give it that it's unbeknownst. 01:48:36.196 --> 01:48:43.741 I'm finally different Okay, that's disappointing for me because well, 01:48:43.741 --> 01:48:50.526 I mean because the last time I was oxbow We have a lot more oxbow, 01:48:50.526 --> 01:48:53.088 so it's gonna it's gonna have some more winners and some more, 01:49:00.675 --> 01:49:05.998 losers Wow Alligash and Oxbow is probably the in or probably well easily the 01:49:05.998 --> 01:49:10.161 top three or Hill Farmstead Alligash and Oxbow are ones that we brought home. 01:49:10.161 --> 01:49:13.544 We have a quantity of beers from those guys. 01:49:13.544 --> 01:49:17.347 All right. So we're going to rock, paper, scissors for who goes first. 01:49:17.347 --> 01:49:22.231 Oh goodness. No. No. Okay. 01:49:22.231 --> 01:49:24.193 Sure. 01:49:24.193 --> 01:49:25.453 But I'm not playing. I'll go. 01:49:25.453 --> 01:49:26.854 Then you lose and you go first. 01:49:26.854 --> 01:49:30.957 I lose and I get lost. No, that's not how it works. Ah, dang. 01:49:30.957 --> 01:49:34.620 Hmm. I don't like this game. 01:49:34.620 --> 01:49:39.624 So for me, this is interesting because there isn't, last week it was hard to 01:49:39.624 --> 01:49:41.645 pick a loser, this week it's hard to pick a winner. 01:49:42.726 --> 01:49:50.212 Mostly enjoyable, but none of them are like, what? Um, yeah. 01:49:50.212 --> 01:49:52.753 And how are we going to pick a fucking married kill on this one because, 01:49:52.753 --> 01:49:54.935 oh, that doesn't matter. 01:49:55.816 --> 01:49:56.876 Don't overthink it, man. 01:49:56.876 --> 01:49:58.117 I don't even want to go there. 01:49:59.618 --> 01:50:01.879 Well, too late. We've already added it to our canon. 01:50:02.480 --> 01:50:03.601 We don't have to. 01:50:03.601 --> 01:50:05.622 We do once it's part of the canon. 01:50:05.622 --> 01:50:09.484 No, you know, we're the writers. 01:50:09.484 --> 01:50:11.305 Yeah. No, listen. And the producer. 01:50:12.466 --> 01:50:15.408 It was at this moment that he knew he fucked up. 01:50:19.331 --> 01:50:22.674 All right. I got my order. It's going to be surprising to everybody. 01:50:22.674 --> 01:50:27.537 I think I am going to put, I'm going to change this one little thing. 01:50:27.537 --> 01:50:33.892 I'm going to put the hearth and homestead of Bellflower in last place. 01:50:33.892 --> 01:50:36.924 It is a hard luck loser. It's not deserving of being last place. 01:50:36.924 --> 01:50:41.228 The reason I put it in last place is because I had to work out all that carbonation 01:50:41.228 --> 01:50:45.031 to get it to where I enjoyed it. It wasn't packaged the right way. 01:50:45.231 --> 01:50:49.295 And even after I worked out the carbonation, I still wanted more softness. 01:50:49.616 --> 01:50:53.840 I wanted that Sabago from last week, you know, that, Yeah. And maybe that's 01:50:53.840 --> 01:50:57.544 not fair, but life isn't fair. Yeah, exactly. 01:50:58.567 --> 01:51:04.712 I'm going to put the unbeknownst in second to last place. This one is... curious. 01:51:09.322 --> 01:51:15.156 Um, yeah, I like it. I don't know why I like it. I don't love it. 01:51:15.987 --> 01:51:17.728 Um, I'd be good to cook with. 01:51:19.019 --> 01:51:20.000 Could be. Cook what? 01:51:21.761 --> 01:51:23.863 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 01:51:23.863 --> 01:51:26.004 Make this into a sausage. Totally. 01:51:26.004 --> 01:51:29.807 Instead of adding wine to your marinara sauce that you're making? 01:51:29.807 --> 01:51:31.629 Yeah. Yeah. 01:51:31.629 --> 01:51:36.633 That earthy, that earthly nugget that's in there, whatever the fuck that is, I find it intriguing. 01:51:36.993 --> 01:51:42.818 and I can't let go of it. So I have to be like, okay, I like the nugget, 01:51:42.818 --> 01:51:43.638 whatever the hell that is. 01:51:44.239 --> 01:51:49.763 I'm gonna put the needles in fourth place from Allagash. 01:51:50.204 --> 01:51:52.725 I think I got the hard luck on the stratification. 01:51:53.566 --> 01:51:58.390 Mine wasn't as vibrant as yours. Even after we blended, I still was not picking 01:51:58.390 --> 01:52:00.872 up barrel. Maybe I'm just not in the mood to pick up rum barrels tonight. 01:52:00.872 --> 01:52:07.357 but what I liked on it is that sour brune kind of thing. 01:52:08.739 --> 01:52:09.779 Thought it was good. 01:52:11.220 --> 01:52:14.963 I had high expectations. When I picked this bottle up off the shelf at Allagash 01:52:14.963 --> 01:52:18.966 and saw rum barrel, I wanted it to bring the rum barrel. 01:52:19.607 --> 01:52:22.349 I don't think it brought the rum barrel. I don't think anyone, 01:52:22.740 --> 01:52:26.212 they could taste rum barrel, but I don't think they thought it brought rum barrel. 01:52:26.793 --> 01:52:33.017 I'm going to put the Anna in, yeah, I'm going to stick with this. 01:52:33.017 --> 01:52:38.021 Anna in third place. Um, it had that grapey thing that was kind of that nugget, 01:52:38.021 --> 01:52:39.902 uh, in front of all the farmhouse stuff. 01:52:40.543 --> 01:52:44.426 Um, the Motueka dry hopped was kind of playing in there as a stone fruit. 01:52:45.387 --> 01:52:50.010 The Arthur in second place. I like this one quite a bit as a drinker, 01:52:50.290 --> 01:52:55.975 really confounding on how to describe it eloquently in lots of words. 01:52:56.676 --> 01:53:00.719 And you know, I don't expect this will be a popular choice amongst the team 01:53:00.719 --> 01:53:06.103 tonight. I'm going to put the dinner in first place. I, I'm a hop head. I don't know. 01:53:06.443 --> 01:53:13.509 I really enjoyed how it was that kind of old school, juicy, resiny hop flavor. 01:53:13.969 --> 01:53:18.612 I thought Greg complained that it didn't bring the malt that it needed. I thought it did. 01:53:20.314 --> 01:53:24.836 Um, it could have easily been down a couple places had any of these farmhouse 01:53:24.836 --> 01:53:28.371 beers been outstanding, but since they ended up where they are, 01:53:28.371 --> 01:53:29.979 I'm going to put the dinner in first place. Okay. 01:53:29.979 --> 01:53:30.279 You. 01:53:34.233 --> 01:53:40.818 Let me grab a picture real quick before yeah Reorganize my bottles in that don't 01:53:40.818 --> 01:53:43.820 say and Y'all it's what I do. 01:53:45.862 --> 01:53:50.965 No say I'm not I've ceased being precious about language All right. 01:53:51.316 --> 01:53:57.650 I got my photograph Photograph picture hat hand over those beers so I can put 01:53:57.650 --> 01:54:04.216 it into an order and sweet seed order All right, talk amongst yourselves while I figure myself. 01:54:04.216 --> 01:54:08.879 I'm handing the bottles over to Greg gently and delicately. There's not much 01:54:08.879 --> 01:54:10.961 room on this tiny kitchen table that we have. 01:54:11.581 --> 01:54:13.203 Oh, we need more space. 01:54:13.703 --> 01:54:16.005 Well, bigger table will give us less room to sit around it. 01:54:16.005 --> 01:54:19.768 No, I'm talking about space in general and that. 01:54:21.149 --> 01:54:24.912 Maybe we'll have a studio in Tori's room once she moves out for good. 01:54:26.754 --> 01:54:28.034 You hear that, Tori? 01:54:28.034 --> 01:54:28.575 Get out. 01:54:38.603 --> 01:54:40.924 Okay. Other things that are going on. 01:54:42.946 --> 01:54:46.949 I brought back all those freaking IPAs and they were all four packs and things 01:54:46.949 --> 01:54:50.711 like that. We brought back 16 cans of Crusher from the Alchemist. 01:54:50.972 --> 01:54:57.417 So I have been like, I have to drink beer every night so I can drink these IPAs 01:54:57.417 --> 01:54:59.538 before where they lose their edge, right? 01:54:59.979 --> 01:55:03.341 And we just got through that. So like, I'm kind of looking forward to be like, 01:55:03.341 --> 01:55:09.045 all right, everything that we have can chill for the next show, the next later. 01:55:10.327 --> 01:55:13.369 We're not, like the clock isn't ticking. The clock isn't ticking. 01:55:13.369 --> 01:55:15.930 So I'm kind of like, okay, now I can. 01:55:17.532 --> 01:55:19.292 And yeah, did I have to buy all those beers? 01:55:19.292 --> 01:55:23.373 No, when you're- I'm kind of guilty of ordering all those crushers. 01:55:25.014 --> 01:55:28.534 Oh, those were the best order. Not complaining about the crushers. 01:55:30.095 --> 01:55:34.336 Greg, would you like to know how many breweries we stopped at on our trip? What's the number? 01:55:34.336 --> 01:55:36.376 What do you think? Fine, just take a guess. 01:55:36.376 --> 01:55:39.257 We finally- You've heard us talk. Take a guess on a number. 01:55:39.257 --> 01:55:41.217 We finally added them up last night. 01:55:44.290 --> 01:55:45.570 24. 42. The number! 01:55:50.275 --> 01:55:53.237 I mean, you had the number! 01:55:53.237 --> 01:55:58.621 That sounds ridiculous, right? Who would do 38 breweries? Stupid. 01:55:58.621 --> 01:55:58.841 42. 01:55:58.841 --> 01:56:00.603 What? 01:56:00.603 --> 01:56:01.143 In 17 days. 01:56:02.584 --> 01:56:02.964 42. 01:56:03.325 --> 01:56:04.365 In 17 days. Oh my. 01:56:07.328 --> 01:56:09.349 And we still managed to hike over 50 miles. 01:56:10.611 --> 01:56:13.012 I mean, good, because you drank a lot of beer. 01:56:13.853 --> 01:56:18.176 Well, I mean, some of those we had like one beer and got the heck out, 01:56:18.176 --> 01:56:21.618 you know, it was more of a, let's check it off. 01:56:22.039 --> 01:56:24.200 We'll have one. Okay. It's all right. 01:56:24.200 --> 01:56:24.761 For beers. 01:56:24.761 --> 01:56:29.104 So for the beers, for the places you stayed at, what's the number? 01:56:30.325 --> 01:56:32.306 Oh, well, it didn't count. 01:56:32.306 --> 01:56:35.989 I mean, but like, but those breweries that like, if you count, 01:56:35.989 --> 01:56:40.852 if you discount the ones you like one beer, like, I don't know, I don't have that. 01:56:40.852 --> 01:56:42.314 It's probably 35. Okay. No, much less. 01:56:46.517 --> 01:56:47.958 There weren't too many stinkers. 01:56:48.698 --> 01:56:51.280 You sure it's not... It's over 9,000! I want... 01:56:54.923 --> 01:56:59.686 I probably could share it. I have on my Google Maps, I have a list of every 01:56:59.686 --> 01:57:05.470 brewery that, um, I'm sorry, Shannon, a pre-DHA that I've been to. 01:57:05.991 --> 01:57:09.192 And I was trying to make, like back in the day when we're doing our travels, 01:57:09.192 --> 01:57:12.134 I was trying to hunt those down. Some of them aren't there anymore, 01:57:12.134 --> 01:57:13.975 so it's hard to star those ones. Sure. 01:57:13.975 --> 01:57:16.718 Sure. All right. 01:57:16.718 --> 01:57:18.418 Take a picture of your... 01:57:19.119 --> 01:57:20.259 So the last lawyer? 01:57:23.636 --> 01:57:29.680 Are you or what am I going to put the hearth of the homestead in last place? 01:57:29.680 --> 01:57:33.923 Because, yeah, I felt that that sweetness at the end kind of hurt it for me. 01:57:34.444 --> 01:57:39.848 And the dinner had that soul freeness that kind of hurt me. I want to express 01:57:39.848 --> 01:57:42.230 again, just like you said, none of these were bad. 01:57:43.801 --> 01:57:48.715 Although the hearth of the homestead, I probably think is not worth my sobriety. 01:57:50.136 --> 01:57:55.520 In in record in in reconstruction, like in just I just think that 12.5 is a 01:57:55.520 --> 01:57:57.201 lot to ask for this kind of sweetness. 01:58:01.124 --> 01:58:06.388 Next, so this is a weird thing, but I'm going to put the Anna and the two honey ones. 01:58:07.719 --> 01:58:11.211 Can put the Anna next in the unbeknownst in front of it. I kind of like the 01:58:11.211 --> 01:58:14.613 unbeknownst for what's for the weirdness of it for the the interesting stuff 01:58:14.613 --> 01:58:16.715 going on and the Anna I felt like. 01:58:18.276 --> 01:58:24.101 It was kind of Arthur plus, but I've put in the author in the second place because 01:58:24.101 --> 01:58:29.745 I do think the Arthur was interesting because it was something new and like, 01:58:29.745 --> 01:58:34.369 you could base a new style on that and that was really kind of cool, 01:58:34.369 --> 01:58:40.453 but it was also hard to figure out because you could base a new style on that. 01:58:40.453 --> 01:58:41.834 And so that's kind of weird. 01:58:43.876 --> 01:58:49.300 Um, it was a good drinker. It had really interesting stuff going on, 01:58:49.300 --> 01:58:50.421 but not interesting enough. 01:58:52.122 --> 01:58:56.165 I think needles comes the first place. I'd you didn't get the rum so much. 01:58:56.165 --> 01:59:03.511 I did. I liked it. I liked the rum that was there, but there's nobody here who 01:59:03.511 --> 01:59:08.894 just was like standing above anybody else. These are all pretty close. 01:59:09.596 --> 01:59:13.821 The only one I would say isn't so much worth it is Hearth of the Homestead only 01:59:13.821 --> 01:59:19.468 because it's 12.5 That was down to like I don't know 9 then I would say yeah 01:59:19.468 --> 01:59:24.033 go for it at 12.5 I think it's a little much to ask just because of the sweetness 01:59:24.033 --> 01:59:26.875 the over the over sweetness that I got okay. 01:59:27.761 --> 01:59:28.432 Take a picture. 01:59:30.443 --> 01:59:36.828 And probably last week, your top beer would have come in fourth or fifth place, 01:59:36.828 --> 01:59:41.912 you know? So, like, this show is definitely behind last week's. 01:59:42.452 --> 01:59:45.534 So, I don't know how much you remember, Greg, right? The Sabago was amazing. 01:59:46.636 --> 01:59:50.678 This is actually a picture of your ranking. Then it was the Oxbow, 01:59:50.678 --> 01:59:57.003 the Ninewild, then the Cheese, and then the Beardew Cappage, And then the Rye IPA. 01:59:57.824 --> 02:00:01.207 So like where would you put needles in that listing? In front or behind the 02:00:01.207 --> 02:00:04.349 Rye IPA, the beer? Do you remember the Ducapage at all? Oh yeah. 02:00:06.371 --> 02:00:09.273 The top beer from this week? Yeah, it would have been, oh yeah, 02:00:09.273 --> 02:00:11.335 fourth or fifth, something like that. 02:00:11.335 --> 02:00:15.338 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There were so many other things that were, 02:00:15.338 --> 02:00:21.642 last week was just a bunch of really stellar stuff that all jumped. 02:00:22.343 --> 02:00:24.285 A lot of it, I guess, jumped. 02:00:24.285 --> 02:00:31.390 I'm trying to remember everything, but Bellflower Saison was in your one, 02:00:31.390 --> 02:00:36.094 two, three, four, fifth place beer, then definitive stainless IPA, 02:00:36.094 --> 02:00:37.975 and then the Mass Riot was last place. 02:00:39.417 --> 02:00:42.218 It's not often that we're going to be doing every week show. 02:00:42.218 --> 02:00:44.260 It just so happens that the schedule's worked out. 02:00:44.260 --> 02:00:49.444 So, uh, I mean, I don't want to make this part of canon. 02:00:49.444 --> 02:00:53.167 It was just more of like, yeah, this show was a fine show. 02:00:53.167 --> 02:00:59.772 The beers were fine beers, but in like expressiveness, in like memorability, 02:00:59.772 --> 02:01:05.616 your top beer, my top beer is like, yeah, fifth place of last week's show, you know? 02:01:06.397 --> 02:01:10.260 And that's the, that's the nature, you know, when you do a million shows like we have. 02:01:13.124 --> 02:01:14.706 A million? Yeah. Yeah. 02:01:14.706 --> 02:01:16.087 512 bytes worth of shows. 02:01:16.709 --> 02:01:22.916 You're gonna find that the way you judge things has a tendency towards it and has certain rules. 02:01:24.561 --> 02:01:26.983 and you gotta follow those rules if you wanna be a winner. 02:01:29.926 --> 02:01:37.744 Alright my turn all right Last place I'm going to have to go with the unbeknownst 02:01:37.744 --> 02:01:43.075 Tomato, so, you know, sorry, don't be sorry. We're opposites. 02:01:44.236 --> 02:01:51.580 I Didn't put in the first place Way above mine, 02:01:51.580 --> 02:01:56.624 okay There's a sorry didn't want to interrupt but but I do have to interrupt 02:01:56.624 --> 02:01:59.886 just for this because there's a very old movie called attack to kill our tomatoes. 02:02:00.347 --> 02:02:04.890 And it's kind of a dumb movie. It's really dumb movie. But there's one part 02:02:04.890 --> 02:02:13.256 that's funny where a guy is in like a huge crowded room and he just says, 02:02:13.256 --> 02:02:16.339 tomato and everyone runs away. 02:02:17.280 --> 02:02:21.442 I remember really laughing at that at least when I watched it when I was a kid. 02:02:21.783 --> 02:02:25.365 So Shannon, I put it in fifth place for the record. 02:02:27.410 --> 02:02:29.293 I'm sorry. Yeah, stop disparaging my character. 02:02:29.293 --> 02:02:32.720 All right, last beer. I don't like them putting chemicals in the water THE TURN! 02:02:34.841 --> 02:02:41.287 Do you understand that Are we done yet? All right. Last place. 02:02:41.287 --> 02:02:43.908 I said unbeknownst Next to that. 02:02:44.269 --> 02:02:51.795 I am going to have to go with the dinner from main beer I'm sorry. 02:02:51.795 --> 02:02:53.716 It's I know it's a double IPA. 02:02:53.917 --> 02:03:02.543 I'm a big IPA fan, but I'm a big does meaning IPA It was, it was too resiny for me. 02:03:02.543 --> 02:03:06.666 Really, you thought it was resiny, I just thought it was sulfury. 02:03:06.666 --> 02:03:11.050 Well, sulfury and resiny, I got both and I'm, I wasn't a big fan. 02:03:11.050 --> 02:03:14.492 So I have to, anyway, moving on. 02:03:15.553 --> 02:03:18.875 Um, then I'm going to have to go, and this is really hard again, 02:03:18.875 --> 02:03:23.639 like last week, because I mean, these were really good beers and, 02:03:23.639 --> 02:03:26.961 and it's really hard for me to, to do this, to rank them. 02:03:27.662 --> 02:03:29.673 So, but I'm going to go with Arthur. 02:03:33.366 --> 02:03:39.550 Very drinkable and I enjoyed it, but unfortunately, it's just, 02:03:39.550 --> 02:03:42.812 you know, up against a lot of really good beers. 02:03:43.653 --> 02:03:46.114 And then in third place, I'm going with the Anna. 02:03:51.198 --> 02:03:56.541 Just had a little more intensity to it than the Arthur did. 02:03:56.581 --> 02:03:57.962 Yes, it definitely was louder. 02:03:57.962 --> 02:04:04.007 Yeah. Second place, I'm going with Needles from Allagash. 02:04:06.469 --> 02:04:10.772 I really enjoyed that one. I like that rum barrel. 02:04:12.494 --> 02:04:14.235 You really felt it. I mean, I 02:04:14.235 --> 02:04:16.637 don't know where Jeff's coming from where he didn't taste the rum at all. 02:04:16.637 --> 02:04:21.961 I think that's where the one that, is that the one you placed last? Or no? 02:04:21.961 --> 02:04:22.561 No. 02:04:22.561 --> 02:04:27.331 No, this is the, yeah, Our first and last are opposites. I don't, 02:04:27.331 --> 02:04:31.899 but I really, really enjoyed that one. 02:04:34.734 --> 02:04:39.178 And then in first place, I'm going to have to go Hearth of the Homestead, 02:04:39.178 --> 02:04:42.480 which is against both of you. I know you really like... 02:04:42.480 --> 02:04:45.103 You have your own time. That's your own thing. 02:04:45.103 --> 02:04:51.487 I just really enjoyed that blueberry muffin baked in that oak barrel. 02:04:52.368 --> 02:04:54.390 I think it goes to show that, I mean... 02:04:57.372 --> 02:05:00.514 It's a roll of dice. These beers were all solid beers. 02:05:00.514 --> 02:05:00.715 Yes. 02:05:01.395 --> 02:05:06.319 You know, what we missed tonight was like... like a drooly delicious beer. 02:05:06.620 --> 02:05:09.541 Or something that was like, wow, that's intriguing. 02:05:10.002 --> 02:05:15.846 That's new, that's something, where is this going? What can I find here? 02:05:15.846 --> 02:05:19.569 All right, so I guess we gotta do our MFKs now. 02:05:19.569 --> 02:05:20.130 Yes. 02:05:21.171 --> 02:05:25.073 It's funny, we were like an hour into the show an hour ago. I'm like, 02:05:25.073 --> 02:05:26.174 oh, we're making good time. 02:05:26.215 --> 02:05:29.677 This show's not gonna be crazy long. And now we're two hours and five minutes. 02:05:29.677 --> 02:05:30.697 Are we seriously? 02:05:30.818 --> 02:05:36.282 Yes. We don't know how to do a 45 minute show anymore. That's because we actually 02:05:36.282 --> 02:05:38.843 talk about stuff now. Yeah, you're right. You're totally right. 02:05:39.204 --> 02:05:43.287 And there's three, three is a crowd, you know, I don't want to change it. 02:05:43.287 --> 02:05:47.860 I mean, I would, if we can shorten the show without making it feel constricted, 02:05:47.860 --> 02:05:52.163 I would like to do that, but we can't do six beers. 02:05:52.163 --> 02:05:52.994 If you want to do that. 02:05:53.354 --> 02:05:59.139 I know I get you. I don't know what the answer is. I like, I love the time that 02:05:59.139 --> 02:06:02.522 we have. I just worry that people are gonna be like 120 minutes. 02:06:02.522 --> 02:06:03.742 Yeah, no, thanks. 02:06:06.265 --> 02:06:12.470 Well, look, I say this, listeners, I love you. If you don't wanna listen, that's fine. 02:06:14.632 --> 02:06:19.215 But also, if you really have an opinion on it, tell us on Discord. 02:06:19.536 --> 02:06:20.678 Yeah, exactly. 02:06:20.678 --> 02:06:24.923 Say, hey, listen, we really enjoy your show, but you need to shorten it, 02:06:24.923 --> 02:06:28.227 cut it in half. Tell us. Tell us. We get the feedback. 02:06:28.849 --> 02:06:30.550 I'm going to marry Arthur. 02:06:34.057 --> 02:06:36.338 I am going to fuck. 02:06:40.242 --> 02:06:42.003 A progressive of you to marry Arthur. 02:06:42.003 --> 02:06:46.226 But. All I see is deliciousness. 02:06:46.226 --> 02:06:49.449 Exactly, exactly. 02:06:49.449 --> 02:06:52.430 What am I going to fuck? I am going to fuck. 02:06:55.713 --> 02:06:57.094 Who am I going to fuck? 02:06:57.895 --> 02:06:58.435 Uh, dinner. 02:06:58.435 --> 02:07:01.498 That's that's the question, right? That's kind of life's biggest question. 02:07:01.498 --> 02:07:02.318 Gonna fuck dinner. 02:07:03.159 --> 02:07:04.180 That's what 42 is going to do. 02:07:04.180 --> 02:07:09.604 And I am going to kill Hearth and the Homestead. 02:07:09.604 --> 02:07:12.106 That's why... 02:07:12.106 --> 02:07:13.326 That's fighting words. 02:07:13.326 --> 02:07:18.150 We're not compatible, apparently, for the first time ever. 02:07:18.150 --> 02:07:19.051 All right, all right. 02:07:19.051 --> 02:07:20.011 Well, that and Gochis. 02:07:33.502 --> 02:07:36.163 Yeah. Okay, do-do-do... Umm... Do-do-do... Yeah, alright, so... 02:07:36.163 --> 02:07:40.946 Umm... I'm gonna fuck needles. 02:07:43.048 --> 02:07:48.492 Cause, uh... That rum thing is good. Yeah. This girl is... 02:07:48.492 --> 02:07:53.495 Wild. 02:07:53.495 --> 02:07:55.416 Especially when she gets her needles in the eye. 02:07:56.998 --> 02:08:01.241 Yeah, I mean, not a keeper, but fun, fun in the sack. 02:08:02.822 --> 02:08:08.126 Yeah, I'm going to marry Arthur because it's steady and consistent and there's 02:08:08.126 --> 02:08:15.851 something there. There's something there that's like very pretty and I don't mind being around. 02:08:18.994 --> 02:08:20.735 Yeah, hearth of the homestead, fuck you. 02:08:24.238 --> 02:08:25.458 All right, you're dead. 02:08:25.818 --> 02:08:26.368 Execute order 66. 02:08:29.700 --> 02:08:37.144 I'm going to marry needles Just because I don't want to get tired of fucking 02:08:37.144 --> 02:08:47.870 Hearth Of the homestead And then I'm gonna kill the unpronounced. 02:08:51.292 --> 02:08:52.152 Makes sense. 02:08:52.152 --> 02:08:53.573 That follows. All right. 02:08:55.574 --> 02:08:59.817 That was episode two hundred and five hundred. 02:08:59.817 --> 02:09:00.378 Five hundred. 02:09:00.998 --> 02:09:03.581 Two hundred and one. Zero zero. 02:09:03.881 --> 02:09:12.430 Five hundred twelve. So this is This is your new favorite? 02:09:13.271 --> 02:09:14.351 He's my musical soulmate. 02:09:17.135 --> 02:09:18.276 I just his, 02:09:21.487 --> 02:09:30.914 His lyrics on this newest album, Stick City, or Stick Season, too much alcohol. 02:09:30.914 --> 02:09:34.317 My opinion about music is terrible, so don't listen to me. 02:09:36.339 --> 02:09:42.223 Yeah, it speaks to my soul, because my heart's still in New England. 02:09:42.804 --> 02:09:44.625 This is really country to me. No, it's folk. 02:09:44.625 --> 02:09:45.525 It's Folk. It's Folk. 02:09:46.987 --> 02:09:47.627 This one. 02:09:47.627 --> 02:09:51.410 It is. This one, yeah. If you were just listening to this one, 02:09:51.410 --> 02:09:52.591 I could see what you could say. 02:09:52.591 --> 02:09:55.393 This bridge is kind of Nashville, yeah. 02:09:56.434 --> 02:10:02.719 Go to his song. Well, anyway. 02:10:02.719 --> 02:10:04.800 Oh, this is probably the weird USB bug. 02:10:04.800 --> 02:10:05.441 It's back, baby! 02:10:11.045 --> 02:10:20.372 Yeah, he's my musical soulmate. He actually replied to my comment on Facebook last week. 02:10:22.434 --> 02:10:26.056 Look at her, I guess I gotta give her a hall pass if he's interested, right? 02:10:27.317 --> 02:10:29.178 I'm a top fan on Facebook. 02:10:30.380 --> 02:10:33.822 I remember, I forget the comedian, but it was like, yeah, so my wife chose a 02:10:33.822 --> 02:10:36.084 hall pass, he chose like Leonardo DiCaprio. 02:10:36.084 --> 02:10:37.264 Yeah, I know, yeah. 02:10:37.264 --> 02:10:41.828 And so I chose, you know, Fran from across the street, the babysitter. 02:10:44.911 --> 02:10:53.598 The really sad thing is, this guy, he's younger than my middle child, so. 02:10:53.598 --> 02:10:55.859 Well, it's still a fuck. 02:10:58.081 --> 02:10:59.962 It's tough to see he's blown up right now. 02:11:00.643 --> 02:11:02.604 The whole pass is not, I gotta marry this person. 02:11:03.565 --> 02:11:05.227 It's just a fun fuck, right? 02:11:05.227 --> 02:11:07.549 Yeah. 02:11:07.549 --> 02:11:08.010 Okay. 02:11:08.010 --> 02:11:10.953 All right, everybody. Thanks. Thanks. Thank you. Join us, Gord. 02:11:12.415 --> 02:11:14.277 Right on the website. find the link.