WEBVTT 00:00:02.518 --> 00:00:03.658 And it's the 14th, you know? 00:00:09.864 --> 00:00:16.348 Welcome to Crafty Radio, episode 514, on October 14th, 2023. 00:00:18.610 --> 00:00:22.293 We hope all of you survived Friday the 13th and weren't ax murdered, 00:00:22.293 --> 00:00:24.895 because that's a bad day. 00:00:26.857 --> 00:00:30.299 That would be bad. Yeah, that would be bad. Thank you to Marty for recommending 00:00:30.299 --> 00:00:33.101 Vulpac. This is animal spirits from Vulpac. 00:00:33.342 --> 00:00:37.304 All right, I'm going to pour this one first because I know we're not going to 00:00:37.304 --> 00:00:39.205 drink the whole thing. So. Okay, cool. 00:00:40.927 --> 00:00:44.609 So you're going to start with something from Founders Brewing Company. 00:00:45.130 --> 00:00:52.995 This is their French Toast Bastard, which is their backwards bastard with the 00:00:52.995 --> 00:00:57.438 breakfast treatment they say. 11.1% alcohol by volume. 00:00:57.438 --> 00:00:57.519 11.1%. 00:00:57.519 --> 00:01:00.441 Alcohol by volume, 50 IBU. 00:01:01.322 --> 00:01:05.584 But it's really, it's just all about that first impression with this beer. 00:01:06.526 --> 00:01:10.208 Okay, aged in oak bourbon barrels with vanilla extract, cinnamon, and maple extract. 00:01:12.730 --> 00:01:16.513 Yeah, so they have like, I forget what the original one's called, 00:01:16.513 --> 00:01:19.875 but they had a Scotch Ale Bastard, or Old Bastard or something, 00:01:19.875 --> 00:01:23.899 and then Backwoods Bastard was the bourbon barrel version. 00:01:24.740 --> 00:01:28.682 And now because of flavors, they made a French toast version of it. 00:01:28.682 --> 00:01:33.106 Smells so breakfasty. 00:01:33.106 --> 00:01:35.227 It smells like Aunt Jemima. 00:01:37.069 --> 00:01:43.834 It smells like, to me it smells like if you're making like French toast flavored 00:01:43.834 --> 00:01:48.019 candies, you know, like where, you know, like a hard candy that you suck on, 00:01:48.019 --> 00:01:49.662 but it's like- Like a butterscotch candy. 00:01:49.662 --> 00:01:52.665 Or maybe French toast jelly bellies, you know, that kind of thing. 00:01:53.347 --> 00:01:58.174 It does have a lot of like, I don't know if artificial, but definitely a lot 00:01:58.174 --> 00:01:59.174 of vanilla extract aroma. 00:02:07.351 --> 00:02:09.192 Mm-hmm Sweet very very sweet. 00:02:09.192 --> 00:02:12.254 I know what I would expect as much. 00:02:12.254 --> 00:02:18.499 Yeah But why incur the cost of putting it in bourbon barrels is my main question 00:02:18.499 --> 00:02:25.144 If you're gonna mask it with so much flavor To make it a whale, 00:02:25.144 --> 00:02:30.108 you know, yeah, I suppose But yeah, 00:02:30.108 --> 00:02:36.852 this is kind of like let's turn everything up to 11 and Then add some extra 00:02:36.852 --> 00:02:42.996 things to it and also make sure those are Overboard as well. Mm-hmm. Why not? 00:02:42.996 --> 00:02:48.900 Yeah, just add peppermint extract, too Yeah, it's it's just yeah, 00:02:48.900 --> 00:02:55.685 it's a thing and that's about all it is Shannon picked up a four pack of this 00:02:55.685 --> 00:02:57.306 before we're maker camp. 00:02:57.727 --> 00:03:06.633 She also picked up a case of Southern tears harvest IPA You figure a seasonal 00:03:06.633 --> 00:03:12.497 beer, easy peasy, freshy, it was from last year. Oh, wow. 00:03:13.178 --> 00:03:15.360 It was best by January 1st, 2023. 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:24.287 Which didn't say that on the box, it said it on the bottles inside the box. Telling you. 00:03:24.287 --> 00:03:27.950 Do you get a circus peanuts flavor from here? Because I think it's just the 00:03:27.950 --> 00:03:31.993 over sweetness. It's just like sugar. Mm-hmm. So, 00:03:34.425 --> 00:03:35.015 much. 00:03:38.278 --> 00:03:40.960 It's been so long since I've had circus peanuts. Maybe a little bit, 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:43.161 yeah. It's just over sweet. 00:03:43.161 --> 00:03:52.088 It's just like, sweet, too sweet. Yeah. It's just not enjoyable because it's, 00:03:52.088 --> 00:03:57.105 It's fun for like a sip or two, but after that it's just like, okay. 00:03:57.105 --> 00:03:57.887 It's too artificially. 00:04:00.743 --> 00:04:03.685 Artificially. Too artificially made. 00:04:03.685 --> 00:04:08.309 Artificialiciousness. 00:04:08.309 --> 00:04:08.649 Yeah. 00:04:08.649 --> 00:04:12.512 Artifician bitch. 00:04:12.512 --> 00:04:13.833 Oh, we don't have a... 00:04:13.833 --> 00:04:18.176 A dump bucket? I still gotta find the Craft Beer Radio dump bucket. I know we have it. 00:04:18.176 --> 00:04:19.458 There's... 00:04:19.458 --> 00:04:24.781 What I'm saying, the official Craft Beer Radio dump bucket. I know I moved it here. 00:04:24.781 --> 00:04:33.828 It must be here. here. So, um, while we're clinging and the thing is the AI 00:04:33.828 --> 00:04:39.192 will probably completely get some of these out. It's a, it's a dump bowl. 00:04:39.192 --> 00:04:41.534 That's big. 00:04:41.534 --> 00:04:42.535 Just dump it. 00:04:42.535 --> 00:04:43.635 Dump it. Dump. 00:04:44.757 --> 00:04:49.199 And we can, it's a nice, it's a nice mixing bowl. We can mix that beer into something later. 00:04:52.142 --> 00:04:54.804 Pancakes Exactly All right. So I, 00:04:55.335 --> 00:05:01.769 I wanted Greg to experience the the thing it has been experienced And now let's 00:05:01.769 --> 00:05:08.945 go on to this prison city farmhouse sale That's switching Everything's a switch. 00:05:08.945 --> 00:05:10.116 Do you want to do the other? 00:05:10.696 --> 00:05:13.979 Imperial stuff no no no no Well, you gotta go. 00:05:13.979 --> 00:05:17.581 Oh, that's what I had next on my list. No, it's not really true. 00:05:18.743 --> 00:05:25.707 That's fine Okay, so you're heading up all the way to prison city with the capital 00:05:25.707 --> 00:05:29.208 P and that rhymes with P and that stands for Paul. 00:05:29.208 --> 00:05:33.212 Yes. 00:05:33.212 --> 00:05:39.015 This is Northern Lights, a farmhouse ale, Sutter aged mixed fermentation farmhouse 00:05:39.015 --> 00:05:42.017 beer with noble hops, tetananger in fact. 00:05:44.659 --> 00:05:45.740 Uh, 5.3% alcohol by volume. 00:05:49.162 --> 00:05:53.085 Here, let me get all the glasses so I can try to not have stratification. 00:05:57.509 --> 00:06:02.993 So, so Shannon, what have you been doing lately? What have I been doing lately? 00:06:02.993 --> 00:06:06.336 Well, I'm pouring this beer. You might as well regale us with a story. 00:06:06.336 --> 00:06:11.470 Oh, well, I recently learned how to power carve. 00:06:12.200 --> 00:06:13.041 Power carve. 00:06:13.481 --> 00:06:14.322 Power carve. 00:06:14.482 --> 00:06:15.403 What is power carve? 00:06:15.403 --> 00:06:18.786 Is that like carving a power wheels? 00:06:21.288 --> 00:06:24.810 Or carving with power, like a power glove, like a Nintendo power glove? 00:06:24.810 --> 00:06:34.098 No, it's carving with a Dremel tool and making beautiful, or not so beautiful 00:06:34.098 --> 00:06:39.222 in my case, wood objects, like a spoon. 00:06:39.642 --> 00:06:47.730 I made a spoon and today I worked on a piece of cherry wood, 00:06:47.730 --> 00:06:52.094 right, and carved some mountains into it. 00:06:55.140 --> 00:06:58.603 I do remember in my woodshop class starting with a piece of wood and ending 00:06:58.603 --> 00:07:01.055 with a piece of wood. So I did accomplish. 00:07:03.006 --> 00:07:07.970 Woodshop is turning one kind of piece of wood into a slightly different piece of wood. 00:07:07.970 --> 00:07:10.111 Yep. But what makes it power carving? 00:07:11.732 --> 00:07:17.656 Instead of whittling with a knife or a gouge or something like that, it's a tool. 00:07:18.077 --> 00:07:23.501 So we We have a couple of different size tools. We have a Dremel, 00:07:23.501 --> 00:07:30.286 which does smaller fine detail stuff. But then we also got these carving discs for an angle grinder. 00:07:30.747 --> 00:07:36.571 And that's like pretty aggressive, like makes sawdust fly everywhere and kind 00:07:36.571 --> 00:07:39.153 of a little bit of adrenaline pumping. 00:07:40.354 --> 00:07:46.159 And yeah, so she, we just got those things in the mail yesterday. 00:07:47.960 --> 00:07:53.745 So just getting started and I had to do a couple of repairs on the angle grinder 00:07:53.745 --> 00:07:55.966 so it was safer for doing something. 00:07:55.966 --> 00:08:00.390 Before we get too far into it, but it's like, what's a big scissor thing called? 00:08:00.390 --> 00:08:00.770 Shears. 00:08:00.770 --> 00:08:07.676 Shears. So it's like shears versus like an electric hedge trimmer. Yeah. 00:08:07.676 --> 00:08:11.939 But so yeah, you just have these, you should, I'm not going to go get it, 00:08:11.939 --> 00:08:16.382 but the kind of, there's a couple, two brands that are really popular right 00:08:16.382 --> 00:08:17.863 now in these kinds of power carving things. 00:08:17.863 --> 00:08:22.406 There's one called cut saw and one called saber tooth because there's burrs on it. 00:08:22.406 --> 00:08:28.610 So it's C S A B U R R. Get it? It's funny. Saber tooth was at the maker camp 00:08:28.610 --> 00:08:35.895 that we went to. They had this big table set up with the little kind of Dremel stuff you could use. 00:08:37.236 --> 00:08:42.159 But the, when you put it on an angle grinder, it looks like this just giant 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:47.166 spiked wheel of death that you're or like cutting one out. It's a pretty, it's a thing. 00:08:47.727 --> 00:08:51.953 It's a little intimidating, but it's also exhilarating. And. 00:08:54.559 --> 00:09:00.163 Really fun to be glittered up with Sawdust from head to toe. 00:09:00.163 --> 00:09:07.468 I didn't wash all of the French toast I mean, oh no, but look I can't smell 00:09:07.468 --> 00:09:08.769 this beer. I smell French toast. 00:09:08.769 --> 00:09:16.355 Oh That's too bad because I smell this beer. Yeah, it's not as nice a weedy Weed ish and lemony. 00:09:16.595 --> 00:09:23.401 I even poured water into mine and drank it, but I still smell That damn last 00:09:23.401 --> 00:09:27.774 beer What are you doing Cooper he threw up or something? 00:09:29.826 --> 00:09:32.888 Yeah No, he's eating it get out here. Hey, 00:09:32.888 --> 00:09:43.737 oh boy That's that's for Jeff I can't do it cuz I'll lose mine too and then he eats it too, 00:09:43.737 --> 00:09:49.081 so that's a Exciting so he likes to clean up after himself. 00:09:51.683 --> 00:09:57.768 Hmm Let's talk about this beer while Jeff is, uh, I don't know, did you pause it? 00:09:57.768 --> 00:10:03.872 Cause you can pause it, you know? Yeah. We could pause it. 00:10:03.872 --> 00:10:06.014 Yeah, we should. I would have definitely. All right, we're back. 00:10:06.014 --> 00:10:08.346 First time the show has ever been delayed by dog puke. 00:10:09.257 --> 00:10:12.759 Thank you, Cooper. Don't do it again. 00:10:12.880 --> 00:10:15.563 I was trying to lick up whatever I didn't wipe up, idiot. 00:10:19.409 --> 00:10:21.291 So, the flavor of this beer is... 00:10:23.553 --> 00:10:28.877 Oh, it's a farmhouse. It's got a little bit of a bread thing there. 00:10:28.877 --> 00:10:30.298 It's got a little bit of that dustiness. 00:10:31.819 --> 00:10:32.380 Yeah, dusty. 00:10:35.022 --> 00:10:39.505 After the last one, it's an overwhelming amount of like flavor. 00:10:39.505 --> 00:10:41.627 This is much more subtle. 00:10:42.508 --> 00:10:45.510 So getting my tongue sort of used to it. And also I think it's a little cold. 00:10:47.652 --> 00:10:53.176 So I can bring out one of my first little things here. Uh, you know, Vsauce. 00:10:53.176 --> 00:10:53.896 Yes. 00:10:53.896 --> 00:10:55.097 Do you know of Vsauce? 00:10:55.097 --> 00:10:59.541 He's a YouTuber, science YouTubers that we watch, but he doesn't put out too 00:10:59.541 --> 00:11:01.402 many videos, so we haven't watched him lately. 00:11:01.863 --> 00:11:05.165 But he does have this subscription thing, this curiosity box, 00:11:05.165 --> 00:11:07.547 which is a bunch of science toys. And that's kind of right up my alley. 00:11:07.947 --> 00:11:11.610 So this came in the newest curiosity box. 00:11:12.611 --> 00:11:16.734 This is a denary dice set. A denary is a, is a group of 10. 00:11:17.695 --> 00:11:22.558 So these are 10 dice of all different sizes. 00:11:22.558 --> 00:11:26.681 Oh, okay. So I've seen like his shorts where like he was rolling like the one-sided 00:11:26.681 --> 00:11:29.243 dice. Yeah. You know, so like first off, someone's going to like, 00:11:29.243 --> 00:11:31.044 how do you have a one-sided dice? 00:11:31.425 --> 00:11:36.208 And here it is. It's a, basically it's a cylinder with sort of tapered ends. 00:11:36.208 --> 00:11:39.290 And if you roll it, it will always come up as a one. 00:11:39.851 --> 00:11:41.592 These would be fun to carve. 00:11:43.093 --> 00:11:47.436 You could totally do this. You're supposed to be like guaranteed to be as fair as possible to so. 00:11:47.937 --> 00:11:48.917 Guaranteed to be what? 00:11:48.917 --> 00:11:50.158 As fair as possible. 00:11:50.158 --> 00:11:50.739 Oh, really? 00:11:50.739 --> 00:11:54.221 So that one should 100% of the time to be a one. Really? 00:11:54.221 --> 00:11:57.003 Yeah, go for it, roll, 00:11:59.355 --> 00:12:00.326 it. All right. 00:12:03.168 --> 00:12:04.309 It came up as a one. 00:12:04.309 --> 00:12:05.649 It's a one. It's a one. 00:12:07.411 --> 00:12:10.793 Yeah, the interesting ones are the ones that are not like the botanics I was used to. 00:12:14.558 --> 00:12:18.419 Yeah, so like this one that rules a five, five-sided dice, how would you do 00:12:18.419 --> 00:12:20.420 this, right? So this one's interesting. 00:12:21.121 --> 00:12:24.523 And making this one fair is also interesting, right? Yes. All right, 00:12:24.523 --> 00:12:27.205 so let's, I want to talk about the five-sided dice real quick. 00:12:27.205 --> 00:12:31.167 All right, let's do it. Five-sided dice is a equilateral triangle cylinder, right? 00:12:33.590 --> 00:12:36.612 So it's, if you look down from the top, it's an equilateral triangle, 00:12:36.612 --> 00:12:43.737 but then it's extruded up and it's how far that extrusion is, 00:12:43.737 --> 00:12:48.940 is probably very important to make this thing probabilistically fair, right? 00:12:49.501 --> 00:12:53.343 Because you don't want it to land on its faces more than it lands on one of its edges. 00:12:53.343 --> 00:12:58.787 If it lands on one of its edges, there's three edges and the numbers are carved 00:12:58.787 --> 00:13:02.750 near the points. So whatever point is pointing up is the number that it gets. 00:13:02.750 --> 00:13:08.191 But yeah, this is crazy that, you know, it's just as, it's twice as likely to land. 00:13:12.606 --> 00:13:16.969 Three to two is likely to land on its edge versus its face, which. 00:13:18.470 --> 00:13:20.572 From its shape, seems like it should be the opposite. 00:13:20.572 --> 00:13:21.212 Yeah, yeah. 00:13:21.973 --> 00:13:24.935 But yeah, it has to do, like you said, with the extrusion and how much that 00:13:24.935 --> 00:13:28.017 is. And they mathematically figured out the deal. 00:13:28.378 --> 00:13:33.561 And that's I just rolled a five. I just rolled a three and I just rolled a one 00:13:33.561 --> 00:13:38.784 and I just rolled a one, a four. So, I mean, yeah, like it's. 00:13:40.746 --> 00:13:44.549 That's really neat to me. Okay. So six sided dice. That's amazing. 00:13:46.070 --> 00:13:49.172 Never heard of that before. I like the three sided die too. Oh yeah. 00:13:50.433 --> 00:13:53.855 The three sided die. I mean, it's kind of what you, I would have expected. 00:13:54.256 --> 00:14:00.020 It's kind of a, take some, take some clay, roll it into a coil, 00:14:00.020 --> 00:14:04.523 like a tube, and then just put three flat indentions on it. 00:14:05.044 --> 00:14:11.769 And then the number is what side points up. So it's, So the numbers are on like the, the apexes of it. 00:14:11.769 --> 00:14:12.189 Yeah. 00:14:12.189 --> 00:14:18.594 All right. So seven takes the same strategy as five where it's a Pentagon that's 00:14:18.594 --> 00:14:25.379 extruded the right amount to make it have the right probability of landing on its face or its edge. 00:14:28.302 --> 00:14:33.385 Actually, no, you want it to land on its edge five to two. 00:14:34.427 --> 00:14:39.450 So you want it to, that's why it's, that's why it's taller. and the faces are smaller. 00:14:40.330 --> 00:14:45.854 That's neat. Okay. I've seen eight sided dice before and nine sided. 00:14:48.496 --> 00:14:52.838 Similar, but it's now a, it's a, is it a heptagon? 00:14:52.838 --> 00:14:57.321 Septagon. Seven sided, which isn't a shape you see every day. 00:14:58.062 --> 00:14:59.543 Yeah, I guess it is a septagon. Yeah. 00:15:04.446 --> 00:15:07.528 And then the 10 sided dice. What does that one look like? 00:15:07.528 --> 00:15:09.710 I'm busy trying to put this in the car. 00:15:09.710 --> 00:15:12.852 I've seen ten-sided die before, so it's just, it's two, um... 00:15:14.373 --> 00:15:15.054 Five-sided domes? 00:15:15.454 --> 00:15:19.157 Like, yeah, two, uh... They're offset. 00:15:19.157 --> 00:15:20.498 Yeah. 00:15:20.498 --> 00:15:21.938 But it's two five-sided, yeah. 00:15:22.339 --> 00:15:25.801 Five-sided pyramids kind of put together. That's cool. 00:15:26.302 --> 00:15:28.843 Yeah, the ones you normally don't see, the five and the seven, 00:15:28.843 --> 00:15:30.844 are the ones that are pretty neat. 00:15:32.186 --> 00:15:33.607 Well, the ten, natural ten. 00:15:33.607 --> 00:15:35.369 Whoop. 00:15:35.369 --> 00:15:40.032 Then a one natural one. So critical success and a critical failure. 00:15:42.454 --> 00:15:43.694 Yeah, that's really neat. 00:15:43.694 --> 00:15:49.359 Yeah. So it's like, I don't know if you're ever going to use, 00:15:49.359 --> 00:15:54.082 I remember going to use them, but it is a cool, like little piece of, Hey, isn't that neat? 00:15:55.023 --> 00:15:58.305 And that's kind of the, so you get something like once a month, 00:15:58.305 --> 00:16:00.107 it's once every three months. 00:16:01.471 --> 00:16:04.835 So, and this is one of the things that came in it and this is the coolest thing 00:16:04.835 --> 00:16:07.557 I love the stuff the game and I think, but yeah, it's neat. 00:16:07.557 --> 00:16:07.857 That's, 00:16:10.244 --> 00:16:10.604 cool. 00:16:14.302 --> 00:16:16.304 Now last week Shannon and I went 00:16:16.304 --> 00:16:20.687 up to East Durham, New York to go to the Catskill Mountain Maker Camp. 00:16:20.687 --> 00:16:25.370 And that was a bunch of fun. A friend of ours, Craig, who runs the Barefoot 00:16:25.370 --> 00:16:30.493 Forge, kind of told us we should go and encouraged us to go. And we went. 00:16:31.334 --> 00:16:35.676 And we went two days early and did hiking the first two days up in the Catskills. 00:16:36.258 --> 00:16:40.000 Had some pretty nice hikes. And then the rest is Maker Camp, 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.622 Friday, Saturday, Sunday, where they have a bunch of tents set up with with 00:16:43.622 --> 00:16:48.026 different companies or individuals who are demonstrating things, 00:16:48.026 --> 00:16:50.718 different classes, lots of hands-on stuff. 00:16:50.718 --> 00:16:55.191 You could blacksmith, you can power carve, you can make- Make leather objects. 00:16:56.713 --> 00:17:01.136 Oh yeah, there was leather work that was super popular. We could never get into 00:17:01.136 --> 00:17:03.338 that one. Now there was a jewelry making area. 00:17:05.140 --> 00:17:08.602 There was, you could make pens on a, make wooden pens on a lathe. 00:17:11.204 --> 00:17:14.306 The one I need to get, the one I'm going to like get there early and try to 00:17:14.306 --> 00:17:18.870 get into next year is there's this place where you make like axe handles and 00:17:18.870 --> 00:17:19.890 hammer handles and stuff. 00:17:20.852 --> 00:17:25.254 But manually, like with draw knives and these like benches that you sit on that 00:17:25.254 --> 00:17:29.218 clamp them and things look like lots of fun. Yeah. 00:17:29.218 --> 00:17:32.680 They have like a knife sharpening thing you could train there? 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:34.321 Because that would be a cool skill to have. 00:17:35.602 --> 00:17:36.423 They did have. 00:17:37.744 --> 00:17:42.427 Not so much skill, but yeah, they had a couple of the really good Tormek knife sharpeners. 00:17:43.348 --> 00:17:45.810 So there were certain periods of time where you could bring your knives, 00:17:45.810 --> 00:17:47.711 get them sharpened and stuff like that. 00:17:49.313 --> 00:17:53.856 There was welding. There was welding, two welding areas. We got to TIG weld 00:17:53.856 --> 00:17:55.297 a little bit. That was fun. 00:17:55.297 --> 00:17:57.159 That was a lot of fun. TIG weld, explain. 00:17:57.159 --> 00:18:00.761 It has different, three main kinds of welding, right? 00:18:01.983 --> 00:18:06.316 There's stick welding or arc welding, right? that looks like you have jumper 00:18:06.316 --> 00:18:10.710 cables and in one jumper cable you put this big long stick, which is the electrode 00:18:10.710 --> 00:18:14.732 that you put down on the metal, which has a ground to it and it arcs and melts the metal, right? 00:18:16.154 --> 00:18:22.599 And then there's MIG welding, which is like the stick welding is like the old school thing. 00:18:23.040 --> 00:18:27.143 MIG welding is the more popular, more modern thing where you have this little 00:18:27.143 --> 00:18:33.468 gun and inside the gun there's this wire that feeds out and there's gas that 00:18:33.468 --> 00:18:37.751 shields where the wire feeds out, so it doesn't oxidize, you get a cleaner weld. 00:18:39.092 --> 00:18:43.115 So the wire comes out, it's positively charged, things grounded, 00:18:43.115 --> 00:18:49.420 it arcs, deposits metal down, and then you have an argon gas mix that shields 00:18:49.420 --> 00:18:51.462 the weld, so you get a cleaner weld. 00:18:52.222 --> 00:18:54.147 Which we've both done in the past. 00:18:54.830 --> 00:18:57.013 And then TIG welding is a more, 00:19:02.466 --> 00:19:08.150 I mean, this is a gross generalization, but it's kind of a more fine-tuned, 00:19:08.150 --> 00:19:14.094 detailed work kind of welding. It doesn't have to be, but in general, your first difference. 00:19:15.075 --> 00:19:21.159 So you hold it more like a pencil and it has a tungsten electrode and it arcs 00:19:21.159 --> 00:19:25.221 and you just kind of add feeder wire to it and you can use it to kind of melt 00:19:25.221 --> 00:19:27.103 different pieces of metal together and stuff like that. 00:19:27.103 --> 00:19:31.245 But it's really up and close, like your head's only like six inches from what 00:19:31.245 --> 00:19:35.729 you're working on and like the distance of the electrode to what you're working 00:19:35.729 --> 00:19:38.551 on, it's like a 64. I hope you're wearing good eye protection because. Oh yeah. 00:19:38.551 --> 00:19:39.552 You have a welding mask on. 00:19:39.552 --> 00:19:43.675 You have a welding mask on. It's, you do a blind, right? Like not instantly, 00:19:43.675 --> 00:19:48.379 but within moments if you didn't have a darkening mask on. But anyway, 00:19:48.379 --> 00:19:52.592 like you hold the thing, like you're working, like the arc's like a 64th of an inch long. 00:19:52.983 --> 00:19:58.187 So you're really in there close and you're, you know, fine motor control kind of thing. 00:19:59.288 --> 00:20:00.348 It's very challenging. 00:20:01.589 --> 00:20:05.771 So is the MIG welding kind of like, it sounded a little bit like vacuum welding a little bit? 00:20:07.453 --> 00:20:09.854 It had that... Well, the TIG has argon gas too to shield it, 00:20:09.854 --> 00:20:11.295 because otherwise you get all 00:20:11.295 --> 00:20:14.417 kinds of oxidation and crud in your weld and it's not a very good weld. 00:20:14.417 --> 00:20:18.360 So all the modern kinds of welding, like those, 00:20:18.360 --> 00:20:27.166 have gases, shield gases, that flow out of your tool, the gun or the pen, 00:20:27.166 --> 00:20:32.910 you know the cup and it just kind of flows over what you're welding so it keeps the oxygen away. 00:20:34.371 --> 00:20:41.775 The stick welding, the stick is kind of coated in a solid flux and when the 00:20:41.775 --> 00:20:46.278 arc it melts the flux and the flux makes the gas so that kind of you know so 00:20:46.278 --> 00:20:50.281 whenever you're doing welding you always need something to shield oxygen away from the weld. 00:20:50.551 --> 00:20:53.483 I know that like vacuum building is something you have to worry about in space, 00:20:53.483 --> 00:20:57.586 because no oxidation layer. 00:20:58.286 --> 00:21:02.169 So essentially, the metal's a crystalline structure that then doesn't end. 00:21:02.509 --> 00:21:05.772 And when it joins to another piece of metal with no oxidation layer, 00:21:05.772 --> 00:21:09.655 there's no reason why those can't be joined. 00:21:10.195 --> 00:21:14.298 And so they are. And that has become a real problem when you're, 00:21:14.298 --> 00:21:16.880 especially when you have a satellite that let's say has to deploy something. 00:21:19.302 --> 00:21:24.906 And you know, they make them in clean rooms and you know, and then there's some 00:21:24.906 --> 00:21:28.690 piece that is, that hasn't been, doesn't have an oxide layer. 00:21:29.131 --> 00:21:33.096 And suddenly another piece of metal attaches to it, maybe doesn't have an oxide 00:21:33.096 --> 00:21:36.600 layer and suddenly you have now a joint piece of metal that wasn't, 00:21:36.600 --> 00:21:41.546 that shouldn't have been there before. Vacuum welding. 00:21:43.281 --> 00:21:48.705 Oh, you mean just the vacuum, not adding, like, not melting the things together. 00:21:48.705 --> 00:21:53.329 Yeah, there's no, it's just the fact that now you have two surfaces, 00:21:53.329 --> 00:21:59.614 what were surfaces, but now are joined together and the crystalline structure 00:21:59.614 --> 00:22:05.138 is the same, and there's no oxide layer to protect, to differentiate. 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:09.562 So once those two pieces of crystal are together... 00:22:09.562 --> 00:22:13.905 So they kind of heal together. Yeah. That's wild. 00:22:13.905 --> 00:22:16.046 I didn't know about that. When you're talking about vacuum welding, 00:22:16.046 --> 00:22:21.310 I thought it was about like having a welder using an arc to melt the metal, 00:22:21.310 --> 00:22:27.555 but doing it in a vacuum, which doing it in a vacuum and doing it in argon shield, 00:22:27.555 --> 00:22:32.458 kind of the same thing, other than pressure is different, you know, but it's both inert. 00:22:32.458 --> 00:22:34.760 You don't have the oxidation and whatnot. 00:22:35.821 --> 00:22:38.303 I don't like this beer. You don't? No. 00:22:38.303 --> 00:22:43.947 I don't think it's that great. I think it's... I think it was kind of like, it's just kind of muted. 00:22:45.388 --> 00:22:47.950 Yeah, yeah, I was going to say flavorless, muted's better, yeah. 00:22:49.191 --> 00:22:52.353 There's a little bit of like a lemony tanginess to it, some wheatiness. 00:22:53.694 --> 00:22:57.517 To be honest, I'm tasting French toast, stupid first beer. 00:22:57.517 --> 00:22:58.698 Here, you want to taste mine? 00:22:58.698 --> 00:22:59.498 A few founders. 00:22:59.679 --> 00:23:01.160 Big fan of it anyway. 00:23:03.822 --> 00:23:05.883 It's, yeah, muted, dull, just flavorless. 00:23:06.644 --> 00:23:09.186 Yeah, no, here, try the French toast version, it's better. 00:23:10.507 --> 00:23:15.981 I Wonder if you give that a swirl Is there any stuff and is there any gook in 00:23:15.981 --> 00:23:17.332 there that will make it better? 00:23:18.413 --> 00:23:25.588 There's not much left anyway, but She's going back for seconds for the French 00:23:25.588 --> 00:23:27.619 toast farmhouse French toast farmhouse. 00:23:28.520 --> 00:23:33.705 This is not dull Yeah, this would be better if you poured syrup all over it. 00:23:37.070 --> 00:23:38.211 What was the ABV on that? 00:23:38.772 --> 00:23:39.553 Oh, that was only 5.3. 00:23:39.553 --> 00:23:47.142 You can tell. Yeah. Yeah, when it said farmhouse, I just presumed it was a clean 00:23:47.142 --> 00:23:49.645 saison kind of thing. I didn't know it was mixed fermentation. 00:23:51.854 --> 00:23:55.617 You know, being a 5.3, like if you think like Grisette or something like that, 00:23:55.617 --> 00:23:59.800 the flavors we got aren't awful, but- No, it wasn't bad. 00:23:59.800 --> 00:24:04.663 No, it's not a bad- I mean, they're not awfully out of style for anything like that, but, yeah. 00:24:06.665 --> 00:24:07.345 Perfectly drinkable. 00:24:07.345 --> 00:24:09.947 The thing that Shannon and I have been finding a lot lately, 00:24:09.947 --> 00:24:14.130 more than I ever remember from the previous iteration of the show, 00:24:14.130 --> 00:24:19.074 is that beers that like we have here and we're like, 00:24:19.074 --> 00:24:23.957 We have a couple nights later delicious, you know It's like I never realized 00:24:23.957 --> 00:24:29.742 it before never encountered it before to such a degree that We when we're focusing 00:24:29.742 --> 00:24:36.507 on these beers so much We tend to not like things as when we're watching TV. We like them a lot more. 00:24:36.507 --> 00:24:42.131 Sure. Sure That's just the nature of what we do. But it also means that we find something fantastic. 00:24:42.472 --> 00:24:48.516 It's it's probably fantastic. Yeah. Yeah Let's go to the hoppy one. 00:24:48.516 --> 00:24:55.481 Yeah, so this is Shoebrew 8-4 They call it a pixelated IPA, 00:24:55.481 --> 00:24:59.945 but so here's an interesting story behind 8-4 8-4 00:24:59.945 --> 00:25:03.477 is the famous or infamous ultimate stage 00:25:03.477 --> 00:25:09.312 of Super Mario Brothers where It's the last stage of the original Super Mario 00:25:09.312 --> 00:25:13.455 Brothers game where you're going against Bowser And you have to dodge all this 00:25:13.455 --> 00:25:17.919 fire crap and you have to take a certain path Otherwise the parts of the map 00:25:17.919 --> 00:25:20.961 repeats is that I don't remember that part, 00:25:20.961 --> 00:25:25.224 but it's probably true So it's 00:25:25.224 --> 00:25:30.669 American barley flaked wheat golden naked oats Honeymalt hopped with Motueka 00:25:30.669 --> 00:25:39.038 galaxy Citra cascade and strata strata Seven point five percent alcohol by volume 00:25:39.038 --> 00:25:41.821 Guess how many IBUs? Ummm... Sixty-six. Shannon? 00:25:52.736 --> 00:26:06.106 Remember all those hops? 10,000 73 Jeff is technically closer at 14 What? 14 IBU. 00:26:08.258 --> 00:26:13.131 I didn't think it would have a heavy IBU load Because they're not using them 00:26:13.131 --> 00:26:18.996 in the bittering. They're using them for the flavoring and dry hopping and I 00:26:18.996 --> 00:26:22.898 picked this out, by the way It's an interesting one. 00:26:22.898 --> 00:26:27.882 So it's got this sort of, it's got that milkshake-y look to it, very hazy. 00:26:30.964 --> 00:26:36.168 Oh, the label artwork, it's funny, I never thought about where 8-4 came from. 00:26:36.588 --> 00:26:42.492 But there is a Mario cap, there is the axe at the end on the backside of the 00:26:42.492 --> 00:26:45.595 drawbridge, or the rope bridge that you claim. 00:26:46.716 --> 00:26:53.000 There's I guess the fireball monsters, there's, I guess that's Bowser back there. 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:56.883 I guess so, or a shell, a spiked shell. 00:26:57.803 --> 00:27:02.667 I didn't realize that either. But it's not done in 8-bit, it's done in like 00:27:02.667 --> 00:27:07.330 fantasy D&D style artwork, you know. D&D, yeah. 00:27:10.968 --> 00:27:13.470 Yeah, I love the label. 00:27:13.470 --> 00:27:18.844 All right. So the beer pours. So the pixelated series, right, 00:27:18.844 --> 00:27:24.198 is what they started calling their hazy IPAs ever since hazies started. 00:27:24.638 --> 00:27:27.661 And they all have video game connotations. 00:27:31.244 --> 00:27:34.887 Like Jumpman, they said done ones from like Mega Man, Sonic, 00:27:34.887 --> 00:27:38.309 you know, all kinds of classic video games. 00:27:38.890 --> 00:27:40.411 I mean it smells hoppy. 00:27:41.392 --> 00:27:42.132 Very hoppy. 00:27:42.132 --> 00:27:47.536 It has a creamy like a creamy almost cream not quite creamsicle but the cream part of the cream. 00:27:47.536 --> 00:27:47.996 Definitely. 00:27:50.758 --> 00:27:56.262 In fact I just had the orange creamsicle monster yesterday and that's what it 00:27:56.262 --> 00:28:00.385 it it has a little hint of that on the nose. 00:28:05.228 --> 00:28:08.951 It has 66 IVs of bitterness on the tongue. I don't know where that 14 came from. 00:28:09.351 --> 00:28:10.592 That's what it says on our tab. 00:28:10.592 --> 00:28:15.335 Maybe that tab's wrong. I don't know. Like the first sip, it wasn't really kind 00:28:15.335 --> 00:28:21.039 of, from the aroma, I was expecting something a little more like full-bodied 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.421 marshmallow fluff type of body on it. 00:28:23.421 --> 00:28:28.444 and it hits a little bitter up front, and then it kind of, the sweetness comes in behind it. 00:28:28.965 --> 00:28:35.949 See, I was expecting something a little less confused, but I'm trying to find 00:28:35.949 --> 00:28:37.619 the through line here, right? 00:28:38.010 --> 00:28:41.631 What's the, what are they trying to get me to taste? 00:28:43.152 --> 00:28:46.353 And I'm just getting a lot of stuff. 00:28:47.194 --> 00:28:50.795 The main thing that I latched onto is kind of this papaya thing. 00:28:52.356 --> 00:28:54.276 It's in a middle-late flavor. Hmm. 00:28:58.165 --> 00:29:04.610 I'm always, I'm always a fan of the, the, the fleshy tropical flavors, papaya, guava. 00:29:04.610 --> 00:29:10.284 But then you've got that Motueka, which gives it a very kind of like a peach 00:29:10.284 --> 00:29:18.519 pit type thing. And you've got Galaxy, which is going off into guava land. I don't know. 00:29:20.281 --> 00:29:26.886 I taste this and I'm like, sorry, sorry, Shrebru. You're better beers in another castle. 00:29:29.689 --> 00:29:30.749 That was a setup. 00:29:30.749 --> 00:29:31.930 That was a setup. 00:29:33.691 --> 00:29:37.774 The more I drink it, the more that body that I was missing in the first sip 00:29:37.774 --> 00:29:43.679 is kind of coming back to me. So maybe it was the change from the sour or the 00:29:43.679 --> 00:29:46.161 tart farmhouse from prison city. 00:29:46.602 --> 00:29:51.365 But now that I'm drinking it, it's kind of doesn't have that, 00:29:51.365 --> 00:29:56.268 And that kind of a bracing bitterness up front and it has that kind of creamy fluffiness. 00:29:57.410 --> 00:30:02.233 So more confused. I just keep trying to figure out like, what's the, 00:30:02.233 --> 00:30:06.817 what's the game that it's playing? 00:30:09.760 --> 00:30:13.442 What's sometimes you like, I, we talked about before. I like a beer that tells 00:30:13.442 --> 00:30:16.804 a story when the story is confusing. 00:30:18.746 --> 00:30:19.927 that is a detriment. 00:30:19.927 --> 00:30:29.214 Yeah. I mean, I think the, like the primary flavor story could be a little more 00:30:29.214 --> 00:30:32.537 clear, right? It's a little muddled leading into it. 00:30:32.877 --> 00:30:36.600 I still think it gets there eventually with kind of those tropical fleshy flavors, 00:30:36.600 --> 00:30:39.542 but um, I get what you're saying. 00:30:42.465 --> 00:30:48.807 Peach pit's a neat call, because I am getting, when you take that bite of a 00:30:48.807 --> 00:30:53.329 peach, when it's almost gone and you're scraping your teeth up against the pit, 00:30:53.329 --> 00:30:55.149 that part of the flesh, you get some of that. 00:30:55.149 --> 00:30:56.550 Yeah, that is a good call. 00:31:02.821 --> 00:31:06.504 This is the one where I'm, I'm almost like, I don't even know how good a drinker 00:31:06.504 --> 00:31:12.629 this will be because it's, I would legit be drinking and be like, what's going on? 00:31:15.271 --> 00:31:18.213 Um, yeah, I, I, I don't know. 00:31:18.774 --> 00:31:23.897 How long have we had these? About three weeks, I guess. Two weeks, two weeks. 00:31:24.378 --> 00:31:25.478 Yeah, it's two weeks. 00:31:25.478 --> 00:31:29.641 Two weeks. I'm just wondering, because I got this on tap, remember? 00:31:29.641 --> 00:31:33.685 Yeah. And it was really good. 00:31:35.686 --> 00:31:39.709 I like it, but not- Well, now you're on the show. 00:31:39.709 --> 00:31:46.335 You know, I'm on the show. Yeah. Definitely, 00:31:46.335 --> 00:31:57.603 you say the peach pit, and I taste it, but I do taste the orange creamsicle a lot. 00:31:57.603 --> 00:32:01.206 It's- I'd want that to be a lot lighter. Every taste. brighter than these other 00:32:01.206 --> 00:32:03.568 flavors would support it. 00:32:04.869 --> 00:32:06.850 Don't you taste it more though with every sip? 00:32:07.811 --> 00:32:09.612 No, I keep tasting different things. 00:32:12.295 --> 00:32:17.459 This is the Shoebrew 8-4. 10 points on the label and the title though. 00:32:17.459 --> 00:32:17.699 Yeah. 00:32:17.699 --> 00:32:22.082 That's for sure. All right, Casco Mountain Maker Camp. So we did all the makery 00:32:22.082 --> 00:32:28.047 things and then on the way back, Shannon had an adventure. I did. 00:32:29.909 --> 00:32:32.350 I mean, I had an adventure too, 00:32:32.350 --> 00:32:36.693 but I was in the comfortable confines of a brand new Ford F-150. You are. 00:32:38.375 --> 00:32:39.775 That's practically drives itself. 00:32:39.775 --> 00:32:40.656 You didn't get a Cybertruck? 00:32:40.656 --> 00:32:48.982 No. So Craig, our friend up there, he's also this fanatic for- Oh, God. 00:32:48.982 --> 00:32:50.904 I heard so much about Craig today. 00:32:51.244 --> 00:32:51.845 I know. 00:32:51.845 --> 00:32:52.565 Craig, Craig, Craig. 00:32:54.267 --> 00:32:55.547 Craig, Craig, Craig, Craig. 00:32:56.668 --> 00:33:03.634 So he was, he's a fanatic for late 80s Volkswagen camper vans. 00:33:04.735 --> 00:33:12.399 So he rescues them out of fields and rehabs them. And he found one earlier in the year up in New York. 00:33:13.722 --> 00:33:16.524 In Vermont? No, it was in New York. 00:33:16.785 --> 00:33:18.386 It wasn't in New York? I thought it was in... 00:33:18.386 --> 00:33:19.567 No, Blue was from Vermont. 00:33:21.473 --> 00:33:23.373 Oh, okay. Different vans, different story. 00:33:23.874 --> 00:33:24.434 Different van. 00:33:24.434 --> 00:33:28.798 But so this thing was parked in a field for like 15 years, 12 years, 00:33:28.798 --> 00:33:32.180 something like that. Totally rat and mouse infested. 00:33:32.961 --> 00:33:37.064 He has the first video up on Barefoot Forge's YouTube if you want to watch it. 00:33:37.064 --> 00:33:39.866 But his goal was to get it running and drivable. 00:33:41.027 --> 00:33:45.530 But then his problem was that he was going to have two vans in East Durham, 00:33:45.530 --> 00:33:49.653 New York, and he could only drive to one home, right? 00:33:53.177 --> 00:33:58.861 So I hauled some anvils up to make her camp for him. So we were at his place getting the anvils. 00:33:58.861 --> 00:34:00.382 Well, you were. I was home. 00:34:00.382 --> 00:34:00.702 Okay. 00:34:01.963 --> 00:34:04.004 Well, he called me from your phone. 00:34:04.205 --> 00:34:07.908 So he's like, yeah, I don't have any friends that can drive a stick. 00:34:07.908 --> 00:34:12.931 So I might have to leave the blue bus there and then fly up in the spring or 00:34:12.931 --> 00:34:16.034 something and bring it back. And I'm like, well, Shannon can drive a stick. 00:34:16.815 --> 00:34:19.296 And I'm like, let me call her. So I call her and... 00:34:20.157 --> 00:34:23.579 Well, he, yeah, well, I answered it was him on the phone, 00:34:23.579 --> 00:34:26.821 but yeah, he asked me if I would, 00:34:26.821 --> 00:34:33.666 if I could drive a manual and I was like, yeah, I've been driving a manual since 00:34:33.666 --> 00:34:39.290 I was 13 in a field and I've had more manuals than I have automatics, so. 00:34:41.172 --> 00:34:46.345 So he got the van running and Sunday, so his other van, the one Shannon drove 00:34:46.345 --> 00:34:51.299 home, she He wasn't gonna make her drive the one that hasn't driven a mile in 00:34:51.299 --> 00:34:55.522 a decade, right? But his other one, these things are rare. 00:34:57.884 --> 00:35:01.406 He didn't tell us this till we got home, but it's like the lowest mileage one 00:35:01.406 --> 00:35:03.918 in existence. It's worth like $130,000. 00:35:03.918 --> 00:35:12.501 Yeah. So, back to last weekend. 00:35:14.019 --> 00:35:16.581 So you were, of course, driving around like crashing into things, but like, yeah. 00:35:16.581 --> 00:35:22.705 Yeah, definitely. No, he, was it Saturday morning, Sunday morning? 00:35:23.166 --> 00:35:26.848 He said, all right, this was before I even had my first cup of coffee. 00:35:26.848 --> 00:35:31.351 And that's like a no-no. You don't even talk to me before my first cup of coffee. 00:35:31.351 --> 00:35:35.044 But I spend an hour praying to the coffee gods every morning. 00:35:37.356 --> 00:35:42.119 And he comes over to our tent and he's like, hey, you're ready for that Driving 00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:48.023 tests. I want to see how your skills are He totally wanted to make sure that he was solid. 00:35:48.524 --> 00:35:53.788 So like because if she wrecked his transmission, it's Big bucks to replace that 00:35:53.788 --> 00:35:55.710 They're pretty hard to find. 00:35:57.571 --> 00:36:01.094 So yeah, I Said well, I have to have a first cup of coffee He said we can get 00:36:01.094 --> 00:36:06.087 coffee on the way that will drive to the milk run the milk run and get coffee 00:36:06.087 --> 00:36:09.180 But you're driving I'm like, 00:36:09.180 --> 00:36:17.566 all right And I drove and I passed with flying colors, I might say. 00:36:18.407 --> 00:36:21.469 I kicked ass. I didn't just pass, but I kicked ass. 00:36:21.469 --> 00:36:24.592 There you go. Well, if you, like you said, you've been driving since you were 00:36:24.592 --> 00:36:30.056 13 and that was, you know, what, four years ago? So yeah, so you've had a lot of experience. 00:36:30.056 --> 00:36:31.157 Right. 00:36:31.157 --> 00:36:35.160 Actually, that's not good, because that would make you 17 and that would be 00:36:35.160 --> 00:36:37.302 bad for you. 10 years ago. 00:36:37.822 --> 00:36:44.187 Yeah, that's better. So, yeah, my first vehicle, when I turned 16, 00:36:44.187 --> 00:36:49.831 was a Volkswagen, but it was a Bug. Baby blue. 00:36:49.831 --> 00:36:51.452 Still kind of cool cars, I think. 00:36:51.772 --> 00:36:53.623 Volkswagen Bug, 1970. Yeah. 00:36:53.623 --> 00:36:54.814 Classic. 00:36:54.814 --> 00:37:02.838 Yeah. So I drove Baloo all the way home from Catskill. And you have to take factoids. 00:37:02.838 --> 00:37:05.238 Over 400 miles. Because the things really can't. 00:37:05.229 --> 00:37:09.292 They can't like go 60 miles an hour for a drive. So you have to take back roads 00:37:09.292 --> 00:37:11.133 the whole way. So it was a fun drive. 00:37:11.133 --> 00:37:15.936 It was fun. It was a beautiful drive. First of all, Monday was perfect weather. 00:37:16.537 --> 00:37:19.939 It was, I don't know, 65 degrees, 60 degrees. 00:37:20.460 --> 00:37:25.604 Sun was shining. There's beautiful skies all the way home. 00:37:26.785 --> 00:37:32.068 The fall foliage was gorgeous, you know, up there in the mountains. 00:37:32.089 --> 00:37:38.463 and you're passing all these beautiful farms and it was just, it was a gorgeous drive. 00:37:38.463 --> 00:37:42.803 I don't know if Jeff enjoyed it so much because he had to, you know, 00:37:42.803 --> 00:37:50.283 follow both of us and we caravaned, we had walkie talkies or CB radios, not walkie talkies. 00:37:50.283 --> 00:37:53.625 I was going to ask, what's the infotainment system like on one of those old ones? 00:37:53.625 --> 00:38:02.852 Oh, so he has, yeah, he has a nice stereo and the one that I drove and he synced it to Bluetooth. 00:38:03.993 --> 00:38:10.538 No, not quite that. But he did sync my phone to it so I could listen to Noah 00:38:10.538 --> 00:38:16.382 Kahn all the way home and talk on my CB radio. 00:38:18.844 --> 00:38:23.387 And I had a blast. I mean, the surprising thing is we really, 00:38:23.387 --> 00:38:32.261 none of us. There you go. None of us thought that Heidi is the the one that he just, 00:38:33.696 --> 00:38:38.770 you know, brought back. None of us thought that that one would make it all the 00:38:38.770 --> 00:38:44.454 way to Pittsburgh, and surprisingly it did with no hiccups. We only had to pull 00:38:44.454 --> 00:38:47.257 over one time, and it wasn't even for us. 00:38:47.777 --> 00:38:50.119 It was to help somebody else who had a broken down car. 00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.761 We were just getting started. We were like less than 10 miles into the trip, 00:38:52.761 --> 00:38:55.403 and we drive past this guy who had a broken down car. 00:38:56.124 --> 00:39:00.987 And, you know, we had to stop because it It would just be too bad of karma. 00:39:04.030 --> 00:39:08.794 So I drove him a couple of miles down the road to someone he knew. 00:39:09.674 --> 00:39:14.478 This guy had just gotten his first smartphone, just got an iPhone. 00:39:14.478 --> 00:39:16.159 It didn't have any contacts in it. 00:39:16.720 --> 00:39:19.742 Didn't know how to use the phone app. Like he couldn't. 00:39:20.503 --> 00:39:21.213 He couldn't. 00:39:21.213 --> 00:39:24.046 So part of us stopping was showing him how to make phone calls. 00:39:24.967 --> 00:39:28.609 Like Craig. It's funny that these things that we call phones, 00:39:28.609 --> 00:39:32.552 they have a phone in them, but they're hard to use. 00:39:33.393 --> 00:39:36.494 Craig literally, I'm saying his name again just to, I'm going to do as much 00:39:36.494 --> 00:39:42.719 as I can through the show to annoy you now, but he literally says to the guy, 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:48.202 no, I want you to do it again so you can show me that you know how to work your phone. 00:39:48.623 --> 00:39:53.326 Like he's literally taught him how to use, how to make a phone call. 00:39:53.446 --> 00:39:59.130 You got to put the phone icon on the dock so that it's always there. I think it was there. 00:40:00.251 --> 00:40:02.733 It was there. No, he got it like a day before. Yeah. 00:40:02.733 --> 00:40:09.097 And he wasn't young. I mean, so obviously. And he was having a hard time, 00:40:09.097 --> 00:40:15.922 but the karma for saving this man got us all the way. 00:40:15.922 --> 00:40:19.484 And then we celebrated with a bottle of champagne in the front yard of Craig's 00:40:19.484 --> 00:40:25.788 house with Craig's parents. Whose house? Craig's house. 00:40:29.209 --> 00:40:36.912 So it was a lot of fun. It was a joyous day. It was a beautiful way to end the week. 00:40:38.923 --> 00:40:39.944 Waiting on you babe. 00:40:39.944 --> 00:40:46.809 So the next beer we have here is from Allagash. This is a Cool Ship Resurgum or Resurgum? 00:40:49.151 --> 00:40:51.993 Resurgum Barrel-aged blend of spontaneously fermented beer. So it's a blend 00:40:51.993 --> 00:40:55.866 Uh Pilsner malt raw wheat aged hop 6.3%. 00:40:56.897 --> 00:41:04.803 Alcohol by volume Uh, this is bottled Bottled January 19th, 2015 Oh, okay. 00:41:04.803 --> 00:41:10.267 So a cooled overnight using outside air temperature in a traditional large shallow 00:41:10.267 --> 00:41:13.750 pan known as a cool ship. So that's where cool ship comes from. 00:41:13.750 --> 00:41:15.692 Say that again? I wasn't paying attention. 00:41:15.692 --> 00:41:20.916 The beer is cooled overnight using an outside air temperature in a traditional 00:41:20.916 --> 00:41:23.358 large shallow pan known as a cool ship. 00:41:23.358 --> 00:41:24.419 Oh. 00:41:24.419 --> 00:41:25.079 You saw it. 00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:30.343 So during the process, naturally occurring microbiota from the air inoculate 00:41:30.343 --> 00:41:33.045 the beer, in the morning it's transferred into French oak barrels, 00:41:33.045 --> 00:41:35.947 where the entire fermentation and aging takes place. 00:41:37.288 --> 00:41:41.490 And this is a blend of one, two, and three year old spontaneously fermented beer. 00:41:43.232 --> 00:41:44.472 As we said, 6.3% alcohol by volume. 00:41:44.472 --> 00:41:52.638 Yeah, so it's kind of like a traditional giz, geez, with the one, 00:41:52.638 --> 00:41:54.159 two, and three year blend. 00:41:54.879 --> 00:41:56.820 It's very golden, bronzy colored. 00:42:01.684 --> 00:42:07.028 Oh, Greg is bringing out his next thing from his bag of tricks. 00:42:09.030 --> 00:42:12.072 Cooper, her bag's rustling, it's like, you got another toy for me? 00:42:13.493 --> 00:42:17.536 Greg's been coming over and bringing Cooper toys, so now... 00:42:19.117 --> 00:42:23.450 Yeah, and today Cooper barfed for me as a thank you. 00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:26.882 That was from all the grass he ate earlier when he was out in the backyard with us. 00:42:27.703 --> 00:42:31.106 I've grown to really, to like Cooper a lot. And so Cooper gets toys, 00:42:31.106 --> 00:42:34.228 you know, I mean, I don't spend a lot of money on these things, 00:42:34.228 --> 00:42:36.770 but I spend some because, hey. 00:42:37.111 --> 00:42:38.291 And he, he loves it. 00:42:38.291 --> 00:42:41.814 He does. He does. He knows your car now, by the way. 00:42:44.777 --> 00:42:51.561 I, in, so in, in what, uh, six months or so, I'm going to probably have a new 00:42:51.561 --> 00:42:52.922 one because my lease is up, so. 00:42:53.743 --> 00:42:58.088 So he'll have to learn the sound of your new car. But yeah, like when she says 00:42:58.088 --> 00:43:02.914 he knows cars, he can't see out the window, so he knows the sound of the car. 00:43:05.196 --> 00:43:09.379 Okay. So here we go. So color golden, bronzy golden. 00:43:09.379 --> 00:43:14.233 I think it's, well, I guess it looked more bronzy when they were all sitting. 00:43:14.233 --> 00:43:18.166 I poured almost the full bottle, except for the dreggiest of the dregs. 00:43:18.166 --> 00:43:22.569 So we got a little haze in the glass cause you know, I wasn't carefully decanting 00:43:22.569 --> 00:43:25.251 it. But if we did, we wouldn't have nearly as much beer. It's only in a 375 00:43:25.251 --> 00:43:31.316 milliliter bottle, green bottle, like a good Lambic would be. 00:43:31.316 --> 00:43:37.360 It does smell about what you'd expect for a Houssini-Lambicki-type thing. 00:43:40.563 --> 00:43:46.774 So I don't know if I didn't know this or if I forgot this, but Allagash actually 00:43:46.774 --> 00:43:53.333 got their own species of wildly fermented brett. 00:43:54.214 --> 00:43:56.615 You know, it's like brett portlandi or something. 00:43:57.537 --> 00:43:59.258 But internally, they call it Bret Michaels. 00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:03.681 They don't call it Craig? No. 00:44:05.323 --> 00:44:12.108 They probably haven't met Craig, or they would. They would, yeah. 00:44:12.108 --> 00:44:14.930 We don't need to artificially grow the legend of Craig. 00:44:14.930 --> 00:44:16.391 No, we do not. 00:44:16.952 --> 00:44:18.233 Hot damn, there we go. 00:44:18.233 --> 00:44:20.594 Wow, that's full of flavor. 00:44:22.136 --> 00:44:30.862 Now we're talking. So, yeah, you're immediately hit up with this big tartness, big acetic hit. 00:44:31.602 --> 00:44:41.729 And then, ooh, there's like a raisiny cherry thing at the end with a mix of 00:44:41.729 --> 00:44:42.769 the little bready dustiness. 00:44:45.232 --> 00:44:51.716 Yeah, it's limey, like lime, lime acid, kind of a, man, the fruit flays are out. 00:44:51.716 --> 00:44:52.217 What's going on? 00:44:53.040 --> 00:44:57.126 Which is funny, I know, but like, we haven't seen fruit flies in our kitchen in weeks. 00:44:58.128 --> 00:45:01.475 Do we have onions downstairs? I'm gonna have to go look and see. 00:45:02.853 --> 00:45:14.382 Last time we had Cooper barfed up some some fleas Nats some some gnuts Okay, so why Do you want to see a, 00:45:20.308 --> 00:45:27.592 picture Actually, I know and I was like I I legit have nothing against craig. 00:45:27.592 --> 00:45:35.017 I just think it's a funny joke funny runner That'll have to be the title of the show, I guess. 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.101 You're trying to get the splinter out of your finger, aren't you? 00:45:40.101 --> 00:45:43.023 I am. It's bugging me. Do you want to tell us how you got that splinter? 00:45:43.023 --> 00:45:44.844 I think I just got it. Woodworking. 00:45:46.556 --> 00:45:48.367 Well, let me... I had this one yesterday. 00:45:48.367 --> 00:45:49.868 You were talking about making stuff, so. 00:45:49.868 --> 00:45:50.228 Yes. 00:45:52.310 --> 00:45:56.993 And a while back, I just sort of got ahead of myself, and I was like, 00:45:56.993 --> 00:45:59.515 I saw some things for purchase, and I was like, yeah, I'll buy them. 00:46:00.256 --> 00:46:04.939 And I came to the realization later that I'm not good at making things. 00:46:05.560 --> 00:46:11.424 I have shaky hands. I just don't have the right, both the mindset and just the 00:46:11.424 --> 00:46:16.188 right, like, physical tool set, let's say, to do it. 00:46:16.188 --> 00:46:21.111 So I have these things that, first of all, I just want to give you. If you want them, cool. 00:46:21.592 --> 00:46:23.534 If not, I don't know, do whatever you want with them. 00:46:23.534 --> 00:46:26.796 I'll probably make them and give them back to you, but yeah, let's see what we got. 00:46:26.796 --> 00:46:27.616 This is an oscilloscope. 00:46:27.616 --> 00:46:33.059 Okay. Actually, I probably go downstairs and give you a completed version of this. 00:46:33.860 --> 00:46:39.723 I probably, there's, there's someone cloned this oscilloscope kit and all the 00:46:39.723 --> 00:46:45.747 Chinese people sell this thing and I bought one because real oscilloscopes are expensive. 00:46:48.807 --> 00:46:53.990 I Could do through the magic of buying two I Could give you a completed one 00:46:53.990 --> 00:46:58.454 of these and like now the time takes me go upstairs and come back up That that is come on. 00:46:58.454 --> 00:47:01.876 Are you sure but that wasn't what I wanted find it that quick. 00:47:01.876 --> 00:47:03.258 Yeah No, I saw it already today. 00:47:03.258 --> 00:47:04.018 Oh, wow. 00:47:04.018 --> 00:47:06.620 I know exactly word Wow, but let's see. 00:47:06.620 --> 00:47:13.585 So here is I Can build this one for power and I had some nine volts to in here 00:47:13.585 --> 00:47:17.749 Um, and this is a function generator for... 00:47:17.749 --> 00:47:19.800 I don't have a function generator. 00:47:22.653 --> 00:47:25.705 Yeah, no, these, these, um, your eyes were bigger than your mouth. 00:47:25.705 --> 00:47:29.017 These are not beginner soldering projects. Yeah. That one, um, 00:47:29.017 --> 00:47:34.462 was fairly involved. And, and I mean, this is a big bag of parts here too. So. Yeah. 00:47:34.462 --> 00:47:37.664 So when I saw them, I was like, oh, okay. 00:47:41.267 --> 00:47:42.248 And realized that I... 00:47:42.248 --> 00:47:47.432 This one doesn't come with the acrylic case. 00:47:47.432 --> 00:47:54.357 Even doing like fake, like simple stuff, I'm just not good at. Like I made some... 00:47:56.679 --> 00:48:00.481 The craft project that I most recently did was there are these little magnetic 00:48:00.481 --> 00:48:03.744 ledges I put into Fermi's terrarium, 00:48:03.744 --> 00:48:10.309 and I drilled holes and took plastic plants and hot glue and put a little plastic 00:48:10.309 --> 00:48:14.292 plants in there so that the ledges have like hiding spots. 00:48:15.893 --> 00:48:23.499 And this it looks like crap. I just I just am not good at this kind of work. 00:48:25.481 --> 00:48:28.462 So first of all, have at it. They're yours. 00:48:28.462 --> 00:48:29.864 Do what you want with them. 00:48:30.284 --> 00:48:32.325 The second thing, however, is an ask. 00:48:34.848 --> 00:48:42.653 I'd like you to make something for me and I will pay for all of the parts and 00:48:42.653 --> 00:48:44.175 for your labor as well. What is it? 00:48:44.735 --> 00:48:46.916 The first thing I want you to make, you made before. 00:48:49.539 --> 00:48:51.820 I want an acoustic levitator. 00:48:55.263 --> 00:48:59.086 It's one of the coolest things you ever made. I want one. I want to have one. 00:49:00.808 --> 00:49:02.369 You know, have you seen this before? 00:49:02.369 --> 00:49:04.471 I don't. 00:49:04.471 --> 00:49:07.853 You might've seen pictures. It's the thing that I made with Allie. 00:49:08.574 --> 00:49:10.075 Made the styrofoam beads float. 00:49:10.075 --> 00:49:13.838 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did see it. I did see it. 00:49:13.978 --> 00:49:18.381 Is ultrasound to make standing waves? Yeah, I totally want one. 00:49:18.381 --> 00:49:23.645 Okay. Yeah, I know price isn't a thing for you. 00:49:23.646 --> 00:49:28.235 The ultrasonic transducers are the priciest part of that. Yeah, 00:49:28.235 --> 00:49:30.961 I figured it was gonna cost a hundred bucks to get like this. 00:49:30.961 --> 00:49:31.983 $70 when I built it before. 00:49:35.070 --> 00:49:37.022 And then once you have that, I have a second project. 00:49:37.022 --> 00:49:37.392 Okay. 00:49:39.534 --> 00:49:43.176 Um, we'll taste the beer and then we'll see what we think about the second project. 00:49:44.317 --> 00:49:44.977 Taste the beer. 00:49:45.098 --> 00:49:47.679 Well, we should talk a little bit about the beer. 00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:50.761 Yeah, the Resurgium, the cool ship Resurgium from Allagash, 2015 bottling. 00:49:53.403 --> 00:49:56.826 We got this when we were up there on our trip and we had the seller's tour. 00:49:56.826 --> 00:50:01.069 So we got to peek through the little through hole to look at the cool ship. 00:50:01.489 --> 00:50:05.692 If it wasn't raining that day, the host said she would have let Shannon and 00:50:05.692 --> 00:50:10.615 I go around and walk into the cool ship room and get to see everything. 00:50:10.615 --> 00:50:16.620 But yeah, they had some real whales for sale in the cellars. 00:50:17.560 --> 00:50:20.862 I would say this is really good. This is sort of a classic, classic goods. 00:50:20.862 --> 00:50:25.746 It's got like everything I would want from there. It's also something that is 00:50:25.746 --> 00:50:27.367 not a beginner beer, right? 00:50:27.887 --> 00:50:31.830 This is not something that you would bring somebody who's new to beer and say, try this. 00:50:31.930 --> 00:50:32.291 No. 00:50:33.211 --> 00:50:37.635 Now someone who has got their sour beer training wheels off, right? 00:50:37.635 --> 00:50:44.340 This one has fantastic complexity. It's not too tangy, too sour, too bready. 00:50:44.340 --> 00:50:50.965 It's not too, yeah, it's as far as gooses go, this one's subtle, 00:50:50.965 --> 00:50:53.127 right? This one, but it's not boring. 00:50:53.627 --> 00:50:57.210 It is, it's right in the middle of all the things you want. 00:50:57.210 --> 00:50:59.610 Yeah. This is really, really good. It is. 00:51:02.466 --> 00:51:03.387 It's hallagash. 00:51:05.889 --> 00:51:08.451 So the next thing that I'd like to make, once you're done with that, 00:51:08.451 --> 00:51:15.316 is we've actually talked about it, or you mentioned something about it at one point. 00:51:18.439 --> 00:51:20.820 And in thinking about it, yeah, I want one too. 00:51:22.782 --> 00:51:23.863 You already have a bowl. 00:51:27.906 --> 00:51:35.712 One of the coolest things that Jeff and I did physics-wise ever was we made a cloud chamber. 00:51:37.934 --> 00:51:42.978 Those are, it's really cheap to make a cloud chamber, but it takes up a lot 00:51:42.978 --> 00:51:45.500 of space and got to get dry ice. 00:51:46.681 --> 00:51:49.583 I like a peltier cold cloud chamber. 00:51:49.583 --> 00:51:55.868 All right. Yeah. So Shannon's like, what's a cloud chamber? Some of the listeners, 00:51:55.868 --> 00:51:57.389 most of the listeners probably are too. 00:51:58.130 --> 00:52:01.553 Cloud Chamber, the one we made before, let's describe the one we made before, 00:52:01.553 --> 00:52:02.834 then we'll talk about the Peltier cool one. 00:52:03.574 --> 00:52:10.480 It's a very basic DIY science project that you can do with an elementary school kid. 00:52:11.050 --> 00:52:15.463 You get an aquarium, you know, like a, what is that, five gallon, 00:52:15.463 --> 00:52:18.466 10 gallon aquarium, whatever, the ones that are like this big, right? 00:52:18.946 --> 00:52:20.868 The size of several bread boxes, whatever. 00:52:22.289 --> 00:52:29.234 And then you have to hot glue some felt to the bottom of the aquarium. 00:52:30.235 --> 00:52:37.460 And then you soak that in alcohol, like 99% isopropyl alcohol. 00:52:39.542 --> 00:52:44.706 And then you flip it over and you put it on a cookie sheet. 00:52:44.706 --> 00:52:46.250 You flip the aquarium over? 00:52:46.250 --> 00:52:53.169 Yeah. Oh, okay. So the alcohol's in the felt. And then you put that on a cookie sheet. 00:52:54.421 --> 00:53:00.566 open side down and you put dry ice underneath the cookie sheet and The cold 00:53:00.566 --> 00:53:03.578 yeah, the cold radiated radiates up through it. 00:53:03.578 --> 00:53:09.333 It causes the alcohol vapors to condense So you actually it's like, 00:53:09.333 --> 00:53:14.036 you know, those you know, it was super duper foggy Yeah in Maine you can in 00:53:14.036 --> 00:53:19.280 the cloud chamber You can see the particulates of alcohol vapor and then so 00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:20.481 it's a cloud whoop-dee-doo do. 00:53:20.842 --> 00:53:24.725 Cool part is when high energy particles from outer space fly through it, 00:53:24.725 --> 00:53:26.586 you see the little trails they leave. They zoop. 00:53:27.647 --> 00:53:29.989 So you can see these little trails through the cloud. 00:53:30.309 --> 00:53:33.752 You literally see particles. Well, you see the effects of particles, 00:53:33.752 --> 00:53:36.454 but you see, you know, cosmic rays and stuff like that. 00:53:37.395 --> 00:53:44.760 You can, it's a way to actually demonstrably see subatomic physics right there. 00:53:45.461 --> 00:53:48.263 And it's real, it's real easy to do. 00:53:48.263 --> 00:53:53.507 And you could also bring in your own sources of ionizing radiation, 00:53:53.507 --> 00:53:57.069 like the smoke detectors that have americium in it. 00:53:57.390 --> 00:54:05.095 Yeah, I pulled apart one and you could see like the little helium alpha particles come out. 00:54:06.456 --> 00:54:12.660 So it's just, it's a cool thing, but take some space. You got to find dry ice, all that stuff. 00:54:13.322 --> 00:54:19.096 So a Peltier cooler is a thermocouple, basically, in reverse. 00:54:21.739 --> 00:54:27.924 It uses electricity to create a, you know, a hot surface, which then it causes 00:54:27.924 --> 00:54:28.944 there to be a cool surface. 00:54:29.625 --> 00:54:35.139 And so instead of, instead of using a dry ice, which is, you know, 00:54:35.139 --> 00:54:39.952 you have to get it, you can actually turn on your Peltiers and your fans. 00:54:39.952 --> 00:54:44.616 So your thing can cool down enough, but then you get it cold enough so that 00:54:44.616 --> 00:54:49.159 you can have a little surface that you can do the, 00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:52.201 to have your own little cloud chamber 00:54:52.201 --> 00:54:55.244 or like cloud, like it wouldn't be a chamber so much as sort of a... 00:54:56.065 --> 00:54:58.466 It's still a chamber. It's a smaller. Yeah. 00:54:58.466 --> 00:54:59.927 They're more cylindrical, I think. 00:54:59.927 --> 00:55:06.232 It also requires light coming in it. Like you'd have light that's very close 00:55:06.232 --> 00:55:07.993 to the bottom in order for it to hit. 00:55:08.634 --> 00:55:13.197 Yeah, you need a raking light that shines across it. So it illuminates the mist, 00:55:13.197 --> 00:55:16.780 the vapors, the condensed vapor a certain way. 00:55:18.302 --> 00:55:23.005 And yeah, it's really like, I mean, when we build it and like, 00:55:23.005 --> 00:55:24.486 you're like, we're in the basement 00:55:24.486 --> 00:55:28.829 and you know, these particles are still zipping through. It's wild. 00:55:30.550 --> 00:55:41.598 One of the most like, wow, science things for me, of the science things we've done over the years, 00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:45.281 when you got that first telescope, that three and a half inch telescope, 00:55:45.281 --> 00:55:50.665 And we set it up and we saw Saturn's, Jupiter's moons. 00:55:53.438 --> 00:56:00.172 I don't know, that was awe-inspiring for me. It was take your breath away kind of thing. 00:56:03.315 --> 00:56:09.140 I can do science with a tool. Not just reading about Jupiter's moons or watching 00:56:09.140 --> 00:56:11.763 it on YouTube, I'm looking at it right now. 00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:22.564 Yeah, that made such a huge impression. Like, I mean, the solar eclipse was 00:56:22.564 --> 00:56:24.925 better, but not just a bit. 00:56:24.925 --> 00:56:30.729 I mean, the solar eclipse, you could go see Jupiter almost any clear night. Yeah. 00:56:30.729 --> 00:56:36.773 So speaking of stars and sky and space and everything, 00:56:36.773 --> 00:56:47.340 tell Greg what we saw Sunday night when the fireworks were going off at camp. For the final night. 00:56:47.340 --> 00:56:52.323 So at the end, previous years at Maker Camp, they had built this large wooden 00:56:52.323 --> 00:56:56.566 thing and burned it in like, you know, Burning Man kind of style, right? 00:56:57.187 --> 00:57:00.168 But this year they had expanded the number of tents and stuff, 00:57:00.168 --> 00:57:04.051 I guess there wasn't room for the burn. So they had a small fireworks display. 00:57:04.492 --> 00:57:07.854 And right in the middle of the fireworks display, Starlink flies by. 00:57:08.935 --> 00:57:15.972 It was awesome like a a chain like yeah Yeah, 00:57:15.972 --> 00:57:21.142 starlings like all in a row look at your train like a like a satellite train 00:57:21.142 --> 00:57:27.746 so it must have been recent Dave that they launched because normally After a while they spread out. 00:57:27.746 --> 00:57:33.008 Okay at an arm's length. They were probably you know, like thumb to point your 00:57:33.008 --> 00:57:35.970 finger apart Yeah, so it must have been really recent after a launch so. 00:57:36.010 --> 00:57:40.012 Must have been then. It was really cool and I think. 00:57:41.420 --> 00:57:45.363 It was very distracting. I mean, everybody was looking, well, 00:57:45.363 --> 00:57:51.688 probably at least so many people were like, they were like in awe. 00:57:51.688 --> 00:57:57.032 And I'm like, fucking light pollution, you know, because astronomers don't like 00:57:57.032 --> 00:58:00.554 Starlink because they get in the way of your photographs and stuff like that. 00:58:00.554 --> 00:58:03.917 So, well, there are two reasons not to like Starlink. 00:58:03.917 --> 00:58:06.619 One is, yeah, they, they get in the way, but you can, 00:58:06.619 --> 00:58:12.903 but you know, We know enough about orbit you can accommodate for that Optics 00:58:12.903 --> 00:58:15.565 are good enough that you can and computers are good enough that you can take 00:58:15.565 --> 00:58:20.028 that away It's a you know amateur astronomers have a worse time with the professional 00:58:20.028 --> 00:58:23.490 astronomers but professional start we're still just don't like it because you know, 00:58:23.490 --> 00:58:33.397 the other problem is you're putting up a lot of items there and There there's 00:58:33.397 --> 00:58:39.261 a whole lot of space out there so it's not likely that things will collide but 00:58:39.261 --> 00:58:42.023 over time it kind of becomes inevitability. 00:58:43.064 --> 00:58:49.709 And then you get an area that is at least on like a particular orbit on a particular angle. 00:58:50.890 --> 00:58:51.650 Over polluted. 00:58:51.650 --> 00:58:56.534 Over polluted. And you get sort of a mini Kessler syndrome type situation, which is not great. 00:58:56.534 --> 00:59:03.539 So Kessler syndrome is the idea that a whole bunch of orbital junk hits and 00:59:03.539 --> 00:59:06.541 you just get just shards of stuff everywhere. And so you can't even get off 00:59:06.541 --> 00:59:10.865 the planet anymore because nothing, can can go out without being hit by. 00:59:10.865 --> 00:59:14.227 Two satellites crash and make a bunch of pieces and those pieces crash more 00:59:14.227 --> 00:59:17.690 satellites. And then all of a sudden you have a cage over your head because you can't launch. 00:59:18.130 --> 00:59:22.714 So that's, will it happen? I don't know. 00:59:23.434 --> 00:59:25.716 I mean, the probability is pretty low at this point. 00:59:25.716 --> 00:59:30.579 Those things are also at a low enough altitude that most of, 00:59:30.579 --> 00:59:33.183 you know, even if stuff happened, most of the stuff would, would, 00:59:33.183 --> 00:59:35.087 after like five years or so, de-orbit. 00:59:35.990 --> 00:59:39.156 So it's not as huge a deal, but it is just like... 00:59:41.536 --> 00:59:46.720 It's one of those things where, if people aren't particularly careful, 00:59:46.720 --> 00:59:49.181 things can get out of hand pretty quickly. 00:59:50.323 --> 00:59:52.844 Kind of like pollution here. 00:59:52.844 --> 00:59:53.324 Yes. 00:59:53.324 --> 00:59:53.865 On earth. 00:59:55.907 --> 00:59:58.188 All right, let's open up the Foul Mouthed. 00:59:58.188 --> 01:00:00.950 So. 01:00:00.950 --> 01:00:02.551 You want my glass, sir? 01:00:02.551 --> 01:00:08.756 This is from Foul Mouth Brewing. This is another source of Flanders, Flanders Out Bruin. 01:00:09.777 --> 01:00:11.698 7% alcohol by volume, 18 IBU. 01:00:14.700 --> 01:00:19.183 I want you to do me a favor, Jeff. Could you read the description that's on 01:00:19.183 --> 01:00:22.945 there? And I'll read the description that's on Untappd, because I happen to 01:00:22.945 --> 01:00:25.027 know the description on Untappd is better. Okay. 01:00:27.169 --> 01:00:32.131 So on the label, right underneath, on the side here, we set aside a portion 01:00:32.131 --> 01:00:37.335 of surf squirrel brown ale every Thanksgiving season to be aged in port wine 01:00:37.335 --> 01:00:41.017 barrels with fresh local cranberries for the following year's festivities. 01:00:41.738 --> 01:00:45.721 We're thankful for all the wild yeast that ride in the barrels, 01:00:45.721 --> 01:00:50.965 ride on the berries like a bunch of pilgrims. They make this beer great.". 01:00:52.586 --> 01:00:56.169 And that's cool. Like it's Falmouth Brewing making a very cool and good story. 01:00:56.169 --> 01:01:02.173 And I think I think that's nice. Here's what they have on untapped. 01:01:03.414 --> 01:01:06.476 Biscuity malts add a pleasant nutty flavor to this brown ale. 01:01:06.897 --> 01:01:14.282 Then we age it on cranberries because we are fucking Americans. Really? Yeah. 01:01:14.282 --> 01:01:15.142 They're foul mouthed. 01:01:16.263 --> 01:01:17.504 They're foul mouthed brewing. 01:01:17.504 --> 01:01:20.687 Yep, foul mouthed brewing. And so when I read that, I was like, that's fucking great. 01:01:22.908 --> 01:01:29.673 This one was bottled. Oh no. They had the date backwards. 01:01:29.673 --> 01:01:32.635 I thought it was bottled in 2014, which was impressive because I'm surprised 01:01:32.635 --> 01:01:38.479 they were that old No, it's bottled in 2020 on 1014 bottled in 2020 2020 2020 01:01:38.479 --> 01:01:43.294 So this is from far in the future. Yes. 01:01:47.312 --> 01:01:50.794 I wonder if that 2020 will be like the 2020. 01:01:50.794 --> 01:01:53.296 Still using glass bottles for some reason. 01:01:54.728 --> 01:01:58.300 Well, they sent it back on the time machine that it was invented in 2020, 19. 01:01:58.300 --> 01:02:07.787 I guess once you have a time machine, then I was going to say it only took him 01:02:07.787 --> 01:02:09.828 a year to send that, but I realized once you have a time machine. 01:02:09.828 --> 01:02:16.914 Yeah, it doesn't matter anymore. Oh. Okay, 01:02:16.914 --> 01:02:24.739 so we have a brown, hazy, and not because it's a hazy IP, it's hazy just because 01:02:24.739 --> 01:02:27.581 there's particulate matter in here. 01:02:27.581 --> 01:02:32.244 It's floaties. 01:02:32.244 --> 01:02:37.408 The aroma has that kind of Flanders-y tang, where there's kind of sweet tarts, 01:02:37.408 --> 01:02:42.010 or I want to say I smell the cranberries too, but the tang is Flanders-y. 01:02:43.432 --> 01:02:45.333 I smell chocolate covered cherries. 01:02:46.074 --> 01:02:49.756 Yeah, you do. Yes. You're totally allowed to smell chocolate covered cherries. 01:02:49.756 --> 01:02:51.158 You do, and so do I. 01:02:53.250 --> 01:02:58.783 I smell, I smell Craig's cologne. 01:03:01.606 --> 01:03:05.128 Had to be on the way up to Maker Camp to see Craig. 01:03:06.509 --> 01:03:08.871 We stopped at Full Frog Brewing in Williamsport, Pennsylvania. 01:03:09.672 --> 01:03:13.154 And they had, I don't remember the name of it, they had two sour beers on. 01:03:13.154 --> 01:03:21.541 I had the one, it tasted like, like the black forest cake, it tasted like cherries and the icing. 01:03:21.861 --> 01:03:26.505 Oh my God, it was so good. And it wasn't a chocolate stout or anything like 01:03:26.505 --> 01:03:31.008 that. It was a Flanders like this, but it just had those flavors that was like, 01:03:31.008 --> 01:03:34.990 this is, this is really good. 01:03:43.401 --> 01:03:44.562 It's not too sour. 01:03:46.884 --> 01:03:50.766 I taste the dark chocolate. Oh, there, 01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:57.131 it is. Okay. The cherry. 01:03:59.554 --> 01:04:05.177 Cranberries are an interesting fruit, right? Because you don't have them often. 01:04:06.779 --> 01:04:11.682 Generally because they're ridiculously tart. They're just too tart to eat on 01:04:11.682 --> 01:04:14.344 their own. like rhubarb, you gotta cook them. 01:04:18.828 --> 01:04:24.011 Um, there's a bit of that in here where, whoa, that's really tart. 01:04:24.011 --> 01:04:29.475 Not in the sense of it's like too tart and like, uh, you know, 01:04:29.475 --> 01:04:32.777 closing your lips like puckering thing, but in a sense of, Ooh, 01:04:32.777 --> 01:04:35.719 I can taste that over tart cranberry thing. 01:04:38.062 --> 01:04:41.104 Um, I don't think it goes overboard. I just do think it's there. 01:04:41.104 --> 01:04:44.706 And I think it's something to bring, you know, to the forefront. 01:04:44.706 --> 01:04:44.946 Yeah. 01:04:49.871 --> 01:04:53.213 The, it's good. I think the body's a little on the thin side for me. 01:04:53.213 --> 01:04:54.794 I want a little more body to it. 01:04:54.794 --> 01:05:01.679 Oh, see, I like it because it's not in your face sour. Right. 01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:04.441 Well, my body, I want more chewiness to it. Yeah. 01:05:04.441 --> 01:05:08.684 I think this could do with a little bit more maltiness, you know, 01:05:08.684 --> 01:05:10.846 a little bit of sweetness to counter that tart. 01:05:10.846 --> 01:05:17.751 Um, and whenever I drink an Albrecht, of course, the first thing I compare it 01:05:17.751 --> 01:05:20.432 to is, is a Petrus. Cause I think that's sort of the, the archetypical. 01:05:22.274 --> 01:05:24.435 And I think the Petrus has more body. 01:05:24.816 --> 01:05:28.259 This one has way less acidic to it than a lot of Flanders has, 01:05:28.259 --> 01:05:29.660 right? This one's more bretty. 01:05:35.964 --> 01:05:38.666 Um, what else? I mean, it's, yeah, I think it's mostly bread, 01:05:38.666 --> 01:05:42.308 right? I mean, and then the tart comes from the fruit. Yeah. 01:05:42.308 --> 01:05:47.192 Yeah. But there's a lot of like, because the cranberry when you don't roast 01:05:47.192 --> 01:05:50.614 it, it's kind of tart and not much else. Yeah. 01:05:51.715 --> 01:05:55.417 And there's a bit of that cherry that comes through a bit of the berry stuff. 01:05:57.679 --> 01:06:01.061 But I mean, you couldn't do this with roasted cranberry because I bet that would 01:06:01.061 --> 01:06:02.262 just make the beer gross. 01:06:06.786 --> 01:06:10.589 Maybe not all. Maybe a portion would be good, right? 01:06:10.589 --> 01:06:10.829 Yeah. 01:06:12.331 --> 01:06:16.393 Remember this was aged in port wine barrels with a wild culture. 01:06:19.216 --> 01:06:25.000 I think there's a subtle play of that kind of sweet wine kind of thing there. 01:06:25.621 --> 01:06:28.387 Maybe I'm just hunting for it because I know there's port wine barrels. 01:06:28.387 --> 01:06:30.030 I think there's a little bit in there. 01:06:30.672 --> 01:06:33.337 Also a little bit of oak is apparent when you look for it. 01:06:35.494 --> 01:06:38.877 Another interesting thing about cranberries, well actually not really about 01:06:38.877 --> 01:06:43.381 cranberries, but sort of kind of related is I recently learned about apples. Okay. 01:06:45.043 --> 01:06:48.485 About, you know, Johnny apple seed and that whole thing in this country. 01:06:48.485 --> 01:06:53.189 So apples are not a true fruit or they, they aren't true to fruit, 01:06:53.189 --> 01:06:56.391 I should say, in the sense that you can't just take an apple and plant the seeds 01:06:56.391 --> 01:07:00.154 and get apples that taste like that. 01:07:00.154 --> 01:07:06.499 Okay. Um, apples in general, like first of all, the first apples were like cranberry, 01:07:06.499 --> 01:07:08.300 like ridiculously tart, tiny things. 01:07:09.341 --> 01:07:15.612 But most of the time, if you, you know, you plant various seeds of apples and 01:07:15.612 --> 01:07:19.689 you're going to get some gross fruit that tastes either nasty or just, 01:07:19.689 --> 01:07:22.541 it's just not what you want. 01:07:23.251 --> 01:07:28.955 And so almost, so all the apples that we get are, you know, they're cuttings 01:07:28.955 --> 01:07:32.598 that are made of the right apple fruit. 01:07:33.439 --> 01:07:39.923 And then there are places that do grow a lot of seeds and then one fruit out 01:07:39.923 --> 01:07:45.166 of a meadow of apple trees will be, okay, yeah, here we go, we found one. 01:07:46.007 --> 01:07:53.652 So it's weird that that's how new fruits like that are made by finding the one 01:07:53.652 --> 01:07:57.214 gem in a ridiculous amount of attempts 01:07:57.574 --> 01:08:01.678 And then just taking the cutting from that tree and cloning it over and over and over again. 01:08:01.828 --> 01:08:07.522 And that's wild that, so apples are the pandas of the, the fruit tree world? 01:08:07.522 --> 01:08:11.305 Well, there, there are a bunch, there are, it's not just apples. 01:08:11.305 --> 01:08:17.330 Apples are just one of the many fruits that you can't just take seeds and, and grow and plant. 01:08:17.330 --> 01:08:23.134 So you, I would have thought, I thought what you were going to say, 01:08:23.534 --> 01:08:26.537 and I knew some of the Johnny Appleseed cuttings thing. 01:08:26.537 --> 01:08:31.220 I thought you were going to say is that you can't just get a grocery store apple 01:08:31.220 --> 01:08:32.681 and plant the seeds and get things. 01:08:32.681 --> 01:08:36.344 I would have thought if you ordered, I would have thought you could have ordered 01:08:36.344 --> 01:08:40.287 apple seeds from an apple seed supplier and got apple trees, 01:08:40.287 --> 01:08:41.568 but it sounds like that's not a thing. 01:08:41.568 --> 01:08:45.671 I don't think it is. Like, unless the information I got was wrong, 01:08:45.671 --> 01:08:49.393 you know, I'm not a botanist, but there are definitely, there were a lot of 01:08:49.393 --> 01:08:53.655 fruits they mentioned that are like this, that you just can't, you can't just plant. 01:08:54.215 --> 01:08:59.425 I think oranges are like this too. You can't just plant a seed you get and say, 01:08:59.425 --> 01:09:04.838 yeah, I'm going to have an amazing tree that's going to give me amazing fruit. 01:09:04.838 --> 01:09:08.159 I wonder if there'll be a mutation, like I wonder if anyone will ever find the 01:09:08.159 --> 01:09:11.700 mutation of the apple tree where the seeds are. 01:09:13.179 --> 01:09:14.480 Producing the good trees. 01:09:14.480 --> 01:09:18.783 That's a, that's a question for a botanist, really, whether that can happen. 01:09:19.083 --> 01:09:26.388 If a, if a fruit that is generally not true would, could turn into one that is true. Oh, okay. 01:09:29.261 --> 01:09:32.973 I never heard the term true fruit before. I would have never thought about it as. 01:09:32.973 --> 01:09:34.595 True to fruit. I forget what exactly. 01:09:34.595 --> 01:09:36.896 I would have never thought that. 01:09:38.598 --> 01:09:41.700 Um, that's why it was so crazy to me. Like it was, it was such a cool thing 01:09:41.700 --> 01:09:43.962 to learn. Cause I, I never thought. But yeah, I never thought that. 01:09:43.962 --> 01:09:51.448 You would think the species of trees, or whatever's, but trees that don't generationally 01:09:51.448 --> 01:09:55.631 produce edible food would be things we don't care about. 01:09:56.392 --> 01:09:58.253 You know, things we never discovered. 01:09:59.794 --> 01:10:04.498 Who found that one apple tree and be like, how many years does it take to realize 01:10:04.498 --> 01:10:07.400 these seeds suck? I need to graft it, you know? 01:10:07.400 --> 01:10:11.563 Well, that's why apparently Johnny Appleseed went around just planting apples 01:10:11.563 --> 01:10:14.004 everywhere he could find some that were good. 01:10:14.004 --> 01:10:14.485 Oh, okay. 01:10:14.925 --> 01:10:18.968 Right. And so that was a lot of his, you know, that was why he was going around 01:10:18.968 --> 01:10:23.731 making everybody plant apples because he wanted to find good apples. 01:10:23.731 --> 01:10:28.935 But when you think about it, your, your average a raccoon isn't going to care 01:10:28.935 --> 01:10:31.696 if this apple tastes like a golden delicious or not. 01:10:32.117 --> 01:10:35.339 It's, it's food for a period of time and that's what they care about. 01:10:35.339 --> 01:10:40.420 So the tree doesn't need to create a grocery store. apple, humans decided. 01:10:42.161 --> 01:10:47.963 I get it, I'm not saying it's bad evolution, I'm just, it's just wild. 01:10:47.963 --> 01:10:49.404 I would have thought the... 01:10:49.404 --> 01:10:54.586 The golden blitz is, by the way, one of the worst apples. Sorry. 01:10:54.586 --> 01:10:55.766 Go ahead, sorry Jeff. 01:10:58.115 --> 01:11:01.738 I was thinking like if it was such a rarity and 01:11:01.738 --> 01:11:05.321 that's why I guess Johnny Appleseed was the one who you know just spent his 01:11:05.321 --> 01:11:12.226 you know career trying to you know get enough graft stock to be able to you 01:11:12.226 --> 01:11:19.351 know have apple orchards but um like if it's that much of a unicorn like how 01:11:19.351 --> 01:11:21.493 did it even make it attention you know like 01:11:21.543 --> 01:11:25.136 like how did enough people know that apples were something you'd you'd want to eat, you know? 01:11:26.767 --> 01:11:29.299 I, it happens like all fruits, right? Bananas. 01:11:29.299 --> 01:11:33.622 But I guess, you know, crab apples, I mean, just cause you wouldn't eat them 01:11:33.622 --> 01:11:38.445 like a grocery store apple. I know people can ferment crab apples. 01:11:38.445 --> 01:11:40.687 You probably can bake with crab apples. 01:11:40.687 --> 01:11:43.589 Sure. Yeah. That's another thing that of course, apples were very good for making 01:11:43.589 --> 01:11:44.990 apple jack and all that kind of stuff. 01:11:44.990 --> 01:11:50.193 So it wasn't, so when you had apples, even if you couldn't make them into amazing 01:11:50.193 --> 01:11:55.677 pies and sell them on the grocery store or sell them at your corner market, 01:11:55.677 --> 01:11:59.580 you could make fermented beverages from them. And so there you go. 01:11:59.580 --> 01:12:06.085 And also pre-refrigeration, you know, I mean, apples didn't last very long. 01:12:06.085 --> 01:12:10.408 Apple pies didn't last very long. They mold, right? But apple cider, stable. 01:12:11.709 --> 01:12:16.392 So, you know, as part of a necessity, and I thought that was part of the Johnny 01:12:16.392 --> 01:12:19.935 Appleseed lore as well as it was mostly about cider. 01:12:19.935 --> 01:12:22.136 I'm sure that I'm not covering the entire story. 01:12:23.097 --> 01:12:27.801 Yeah, I thought where you're going initially was grafting and cider making, but. 01:12:30.303 --> 01:12:31.323 Nope, just weird botany. 01:12:32.024 --> 01:12:41.411 Weird botany. All right. Last beer, Fiddlehead, Imperial Hodad. Okay. 01:12:41.411 --> 01:12:46.775 So we're going from a couple of stowers to a stout, I think, 01:12:46.775 --> 01:12:48.395 right? Am I getting that right? 01:12:53.301 --> 01:12:56.322 No, it's an IPA. Okay. Porter. Porter. Bourbon Barrel-Aged Porter with Coconut, 01:12:56.322 --> 01:12:58.164 Cacao, Vanilla Bean, and Lactose. 01:12:58.164 --> 01:13:00.766 I had the page up, but not the right place. 9.5%, 01:13:03.408 --> 01:13:07.651 Alkali Volume, Heftier Base of their Ho-Dad Porter, Aged in Bourbon Barrels, 01:13:07.651 --> 01:13:10.693 Conditioned on Coconut, Cacao, Vanilla Bean, and Lactose. 01:13:12.735 --> 01:13:14.516 So expect us to have mouthfeel. 01:13:15.977 --> 01:13:17.578 I expect it to be delicious. 01:13:20.940 --> 01:13:22.581 Head is uh where are they? 01:13:22.941 --> 01:13:23.721 Stratford, Vermont. 01:13:23.721 --> 01:13:24.222 Yeah. 01:13:24.222 --> 01:13:25.843 Who else is from Stratford, Vermont? 01:13:25.843 --> 01:13:28.124 Oh well, no one. Not Craig. 01:13:30.946 --> 01:13:31.586 Not Craig. 01:13:31.586 --> 01:13:32.186 I'm disappointed. 01:13:38.649 --> 01:13:42.652 Alrighty this has one of those kind of frosted bottles. Oh, yeah fancy. 01:13:42.652 --> 01:13:46.034 You want the extra mile with a Coating on the bottom. 01:13:49.276 --> 01:13:51.558 No, this is just Frosted where the cap goes. 01:13:52.379 --> 01:13:59.483 Yeah, but now yeah, it is frosted cool Nose on this. 01:14:01.245 --> 01:14:05.728 Oh, yeah, and the lips too And the eyelashes 01:14:05.728 --> 01:14:09.630 Yeah dark very very 01:14:09.630 --> 01:14:19.338 dark barely as highlights if you hold up to the light It has oh Really like 01:14:19.338 --> 01:14:27.044 woody chocolate right up front bourbon II chocolate Urban barrel vanilla speaking 01:14:27.044 --> 01:14:29.506 through coconuts real throw in the nose. 01:14:35.535 --> 01:14:39.060 Yeah Very heavy on the coconut actually, if you really stick your nose in there. 01:14:45.434 --> 01:14:49.577 Sticking your nose in there is one way to, to get the foam to go away. 01:14:49.577 --> 01:14:50.877 Goodness. Remember that? 01:14:53.060 --> 01:14:55.121 Oh, nose oil? Yeah. To make the foam go away. 01:14:56.242 --> 01:14:57.503 That was a friend of yours, right? 01:14:57.503 --> 01:15:01.066 No, that was, that was a podcast that you were listening to and you were. 01:15:01.066 --> 01:15:01.426 It 01:15:03.518 --> 01:15:07.230 was either a podcast or a beer or a YouTube thing. I forget. 01:15:08.131 --> 01:15:13.195 And you were complaining about it. We've, we've called back to, the story is somebody. 01:15:14.006 --> 01:15:16.998 I thought it was a friend of Greg's. Greg thought it was something I saw. 01:15:16.998 --> 01:15:21.341 I don't know. But somebody said, you know, if there's too much foam in your 01:15:21.341 --> 01:15:27.085 beer, you can wipe your finger on your nose and then touch the foam and the 01:15:27.085 --> 01:15:31.168 oils that you wipe off your nose will make the foam dissipate. Okay. 01:15:34.832 --> 01:15:36.953 Well, it's probably true, but- It is true. 01:15:37.093 --> 01:15:40.976 We're gonna have to like have AI search our back catalog to figure out where this came from. 01:15:40.976 --> 01:15:48.962 It'll hallucinate. Oh my gosh. I'm just smelling it. 01:15:50.104 --> 01:15:53.446 I'm getting even like a graham cracker thing with the chocolate, 01:15:53.446 --> 01:15:54.866 just a little marshmallow. 01:15:55.087 --> 01:15:59.110 You should take a small sip because it's way better than it smells. 01:16:02.733 --> 01:16:06.145 It's Stratford. It's Stratford, Vermont. 01:16:07.677 --> 01:16:11.899 It has the things I'm looking for. It has the body, it has the booziness, 01:16:11.899 --> 01:16:19.305 it has oaky flavors, it has vanilla, coconuts playing in there a little bit. 01:16:21.346 --> 01:16:22.226 That is exceptional. 01:16:22.787 --> 01:16:23.187 Yeah. 01:16:25.169 --> 01:16:32.395 That is just so many good flavors on top of one another and in a way that's 01:16:32.395 --> 01:16:33.537 balanced. Very balanced. 01:16:33.537 --> 01:16:40.020 It tastes like some of those burials that we brought back, but more integrated 01:16:40.020 --> 01:16:43.472 and combined. More integrated. 01:16:43.472 --> 01:16:43.873 Yeah. 01:16:47.001 --> 01:16:50.204 Please tell me you bought two of these bottles. Oh, 01:16:50.204 --> 01:16:56.028 we got to go back Well fiddlehead's available in town now we just got to convince 01:16:56.028 --> 01:17:04.455 them to yeah So this this is uh, definitely a bottle to go is 20 bucks totally worth it. 01:17:10.700 --> 01:17:14.562 Oh, oh, yeah Yeah, there's You know, a lot of times with, with, 01:17:14.562 --> 01:17:17.585 with some of this chocolate, how you can get like a little Tootsie Roll thing 01:17:17.585 --> 01:17:19.146 and artificial thing, there's none of that. 01:17:20.587 --> 01:17:26.150 Um, there is, you know, the cocoa nib thing, but, but in a way that's not overly 01:17:26.150 --> 01:17:27.902 bitter, but it is also bitter enough. 01:17:29.113 --> 01:17:37.178 There is the barrel, which is not over burdening the rest of the beer. It's not over oaking it. 01:17:37.178 --> 01:17:42.281 Oh, it's just blends everything in. 01:17:42.281 --> 01:17:43.662 And really, as I said, exceptional. 01:17:43.662 --> 01:17:48.066 When you were talking about the cocoa nibs, it reminded me of some of the, 01:17:48.066 --> 01:17:51.468 you know, kind of artisanal chocolate bars, which have the nib chunks. 01:17:51.468 --> 01:17:54.710 So instead of a Nestle Crunch bar with rice in it, it has the cocoa nibs. 01:17:54.710 --> 01:18:02.296 But then the cocoa part is coming across almost like, imagine a good Hershey 01:18:02.296 --> 01:18:04.777 syrup, right? Where it has kind of that soft, that smoothness, 01:18:04.777 --> 01:18:09.361 meltiness to it, you know? Like if you had like dark chocolate syrup. 01:18:10.261 --> 01:18:16.166 Yes, it's not milk chocolate, but it's not overly bitter, but it's bitter enough 01:18:16.166 --> 01:18:19.628 that it's not like, this is too sweet. 01:18:21.510 --> 01:18:23.251 I bet you Craig would like this. 01:18:24.592 --> 01:18:25.873 Well, Craig isn't here, is he? 01:18:32.358 --> 01:18:37.681 So, this reminds me of dark chocolate-covered coffee beans. 01:18:37.982 --> 01:18:39.384 Oh, yeah, yeah. 01:18:40.087 --> 01:18:41.749 This reminds me of Craig's tears. 01:18:50.770 --> 01:18:54.473 Yeah, that's really, really good. I'm going to spend my time with this one. 01:18:54.473 --> 01:18:56.735 We could work on our rankings while we're enjoying this. 01:18:56.735 --> 01:18:57.125 Yeah. 01:18:57.125 --> 01:18:59.657 Yeah. Well, I know where my ranking on this one is. 01:18:59.657 --> 01:19:03.359 Okay. Well, yeah. So founders number one, obviously. 01:19:15.288 --> 01:19:19.111 I'm guessing we're probably going to have like matching. I mean, 01:19:19.111 --> 01:19:23.434 I'm not going to put words in people's mouths, but I think there's gaps between 01:19:23.434 --> 01:19:27.818 most of these beers. Maybe one or two, we might flip-flop, but I think we have 01:19:27.818 --> 01:19:30.139 a pretty close ranking here. 01:19:33.983 --> 01:19:40.828 Yeah, I mean, you know what? I will maybe do this. 01:19:42.730 --> 01:19:51.177 As is your prerogative. Hmm. Interesting. 01:19:51.177 --> 01:19:55.580 Hmm What one was this one this was the oh that was the cranberry one. 01:19:55.580 --> 01:20:01.111 Yeah cranberry, okay Huh, 01:20:01.111 --> 01:20:12.353 yeah, I might even I might even do this What No way No, he's a lot. 01:20:12.353 --> 01:20:13.754 Don't don't guilt him. 01:20:13.754 --> 01:20:17.737 I'm not I'm just shocked Why don't you go Gregson? 01:20:17.737 --> 01:20:18.497 I'm shocked too. 01:20:19.158 --> 01:20:21.540 You're since you got him lined up. Let's knock him down. 01:20:21.540 --> 01:20:22.340 All right. 01:20:22.340 --> 01:20:28.031 Well, let me Get a picture in a picture Make sure you get all the background 01:20:28.031 --> 01:20:34.610 bullshit post the picture I'll make sure to get up there for my reference and I'm creating a, 01:20:35.270 --> 01:20:41.554 fruit flies in this one Don't know why he don't post the pictures though for people to see the balls. 01:20:41.554 --> 01:20:43.156 Mm-hmm. 01:20:43.156 --> 01:20:51.300 All right in last place We have our French toast bastard who is a French toast bastard. 01:20:51.300 --> 01:20:53.102 Yeah, he's a bastard. 01:20:53.102 --> 01:21:02.788 We we Kind of the opposite of the Imperial Like everything way off balance and 01:21:02.788 --> 01:21:07.070 and overdone and artificial artificial and 01:21:07.270 --> 01:21:09.371 just like not well thought out. 01:21:11.292 --> 01:21:13.233 And just like, but it went for it. 01:21:14.733 --> 01:21:19.995 But it went for it. And there was a sip or two where you're like, 01:21:19.995 --> 01:21:21.696 OK, and then that's kind of it. 01:21:23.347 --> 01:21:27.630 But it's the only beer that we left some in the bottle. Yeah, it's over half full. 01:21:28.301 --> 01:21:33.495 I only poured enough so we can taste it. Yeah, I know, because I knew exactly 01:21:33.495 --> 01:21:34.556 how this was going to go down. 01:21:35.867 --> 01:21:42.282 So this might you know, this is I think this is to the table a little bit shocking 01:21:42.282 --> 01:21:44.783 to people, I think. But to me, it makes sense. 01:21:45.484 --> 01:21:49.327 Schubert rate for I think that it was really confusing as well. 01:21:49.327 --> 01:21:53.010 I was very just like. I was like, 01:21:53.010 --> 01:21:59.774 not, not sure what I was supposed to be tasting and it really hurt it. 01:21:59.774 --> 01:22:07.880 Like if anything, the thing that would drag it forward is how cool the idea is and the label, right? 01:22:08.440 --> 01:22:11.322 All that stuff's great, but it's the beer that matters. 01:22:14.405 --> 01:22:17.426 Then another thing that I think is, is a little bit different than what you 01:22:17.426 --> 01:22:22.337 guys might think because I'm going to put the liquid leftovers next because 01:22:22.337 --> 01:22:28.388 the thinness and the over tartness didn't, 01:22:28.388 --> 01:22:34.680 didn't sit as well with me as I might have wanted as, as, as I, as I did want. 01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:42.296 And I felt like it, it felt like it was missing a couple of pieces. 01:22:43.427 --> 01:22:51.773 It felt like a puzzle that was incomplete and The Prison City Brewing, it wasn't incomplete. 01:22:52.093 --> 01:22:55.396 It was perfectly drinkable. It was fine. It was just that there was not much 01:22:55.396 --> 01:22:56.476 to write home about there. 01:22:57.737 --> 01:23:03.101 It was, but it, but it was fine. There was nothing bad about it. 01:23:03.101 --> 01:23:04.182 There wasn't any off flavors. 01:23:04.522 --> 01:23:09.366 It was just, we were like, you know, expecting great things and there is not 01:23:09.366 --> 01:23:13.709 much there. Yeah. But I think it was better than the other stuff in terms of 01:23:13.709 --> 01:23:14.729 the drinkability for me. 01:23:15.830 --> 01:23:20.113 Next, then we just, you know, then we, we leap over a gap and, 01:23:20.113 --> 01:23:24.856 and, you know, now you have, uh, the cool ship, which was great. 01:23:25.577 --> 01:23:29.569 And the Imperial HODAD, which is just top notch. 01:23:30.160 --> 01:23:35.423 Like, uh, I would absolutely recommend this to anybody, uh, probably both of 01:23:35.423 --> 01:23:43.068 these, but the Imperial HODAD, especially that that's everything I would have wanted out of this beer. 01:23:43.068 --> 01:23:45.848 It gave me. Yeah. That's something. 01:23:45.848 --> 01:23:52.430 Yup. Would you like me to go or would you like to go? Go ahead. Alright. 01:23:54.371 --> 01:23:57.232 I'm calling an audible. I'm actually changing an opinion. 01:23:59.212 --> 01:24:00.333 You can't do that! 01:24:08.042 --> 01:24:12.744 But here's the shocking part. What? Boop, boop, boop. I'll tell you why. I have justification. 01:24:15.506 --> 01:24:16.627 Let me get the photograph. 01:24:21.010 --> 01:24:22.151 Would you like me to turn the bottom? 01:24:22.151 --> 01:24:25.653 I got it. I just need a hint when I'm putting the notes together. 01:24:26.094 --> 01:24:32.878 All right, last place. The founders. They... As soon as Shannon brought it home, 01:24:32.878 --> 01:24:34.579 I'm like, oh, I know what this is. 01:24:35.881 --> 01:24:42.526 No, they do, or at least they used to, like KBS, the breakfast stout in bourbon 01:24:42.526 --> 01:24:48.811 barrels, CBS, the breakfast stout in maple syrup barrels, Canadian breakfast stout. 01:24:50.452 --> 01:24:53.234 Those were things back in the day. Who knows if they're still good. 01:24:53.995 --> 01:24:59.379 But yeah, this is kind of like the next thing. Okay, well, we can't have waffles with our CBS. 01:24:59.620 --> 01:25:04.283 Let's make French toast scotch ale. Okay. No, thank you. 01:25:05.584 --> 01:25:08.526 I'm gonna put the Prison City in fifth place. 01:25:11.769 --> 01:25:14.631 You know, my glass was tainted by French toast. 01:25:15.532 --> 01:25:21.797 Shannon's glass, when I tasted it, was kind of murky and non-distinct, 01:25:21.797 --> 01:25:24.599 and maybe just the flight killed it. 01:25:24.980 --> 01:25:26.961 For me, it didn't bring anything interesting. 01:25:30.224 --> 01:25:33.977 Maybe if I had another bottle of this I drank it on the couch while watching YouTube. 01:25:34.327 --> 01:25:39.511 I'd say that this is a fantastic reset, but I didn't have that experience tonight to be able to say that. 01:25:40.412 --> 01:25:43.594 I'm gonna put the 8.4 in fourth place. 01:25:45.476 --> 01:25:50.840 I thought it was better than it came across for Greg. I do agree, 01:25:50.840 --> 01:25:51.900 it was a little confusing. 01:25:52.321 --> 01:25:55.503 There could have been a stronger through line and a main point on that, 01:25:55.503 --> 01:26:00.906 but I do like how it developed before my sample was gone. 01:26:00.906 --> 01:26:04.949 got the body that I wanted and those, those fleshy tropicals, 01:26:04.949 --> 01:26:09.011 the papayas and guavas were coming through and I'm a big fan of those flavors. 01:26:10.712 --> 01:26:13.474 Gonna put the foul mouth in third place. 01:26:16.488 --> 01:26:20.110 Really close. I was debating whether to put the 8-4 up into third place, 01:26:20.110 --> 01:26:25.774 but I put the foul mouth there The cranberries I thought added tartness that 01:26:25.774 --> 01:26:27.536 wasn't otherwise in the beer. 01:26:27.536 --> 01:26:34.020 So it seemed kind of balanced to me It was curious how it was more Brett-forward 01:26:34.020 --> 01:26:39.644 than like Flanders culture forward where there was missing the acetic acid that 01:26:39.644 --> 01:26:40.905 kind of tartness You know, 01:26:40.905 --> 01:26:45.929 it did not come across like sweet tarts like most Flanders do I'm going to put 01:26:45.929 --> 01:26:49.632 the Imperial Houdat in second place. 01:26:50.413 --> 01:26:59.989 It's freaking delicious. I have one third of 500 milliliters and like, I have enough. 01:26:59.989 --> 01:27:05.784 I don't really want more where if I could get a second bottle of that Cool Shivery 01:27:05.784 --> 01:27:07.945 Surgium right now, I would drink it right now. 01:27:08.286 --> 01:27:13.069 So like, because when we're drinking, we're talking about how this was the goose 01:27:13.069 --> 01:27:18.353 that you want. It's not too tart, has the complexity. 01:27:18.673 --> 01:27:24.418 So to me, that's the combination of those things where the flavors in the houdet 01:27:24.418 --> 01:27:28.861 are delicious and very, very, very well integrated. 01:27:29.402 --> 01:27:39.389 I still find that the allagash is also just as expertly put together and it leaves me wanting more. 01:27:39.789 --> 01:27:46.214 That makes sense. I'm not gonna let you sway me, but that makes total sense. 01:27:48.415 --> 01:27:49.516 It's kind of swayable. 01:27:49.516 --> 01:27:50.637 You're getting swayed, aren't you? 01:27:53.299 --> 01:27:56.240 Yeah, because- What you said doesn't change my ranking, but it might change 01:27:56.240 --> 01:27:57.841 my fuck Mary. Oh, yeah, yeah. 01:28:04.768 --> 01:28:07.849 All right, I believe we're- Here you go first place. 01:28:08.289 --> 01:28:17.116 Yeah first place definitely See 01:28:17.116 --> 01:28:30.686 that's I can arrange the bottles and get the photo That one and then The No, 01:28:30.686 --> 01:28:35.372 no there Yeah, there, there, and there, yeah, there. 01:28:38.887 --> 01:28:40.848 So this is the favorite part. 01:28:40.848 --> 01:28:49.573 Oh, yeah, just everybody loves is glued. They're like their ears are glued to to their pockets. 01:28:49.573 --> 01:28:52.114 It never either. They hear the bottles clanking, man. 01:28:53.055 --> 01:28:57.497 They're they're they're sticking so hard and they're they're trying so much. 01:28:57.497 --> 01:29:00.039 And yes, just as fumbling around. Yeah, it is. 01:29:02.321 --> 01:29:10.956 So, um, in last place, surprisingly, we have the bastard of all bastards, 01:29:10.956 --> 01:29:14.848 the French toast. You haven't tried. 01:29:14.848 --> 01:29:17.710 Actually, she hasn't. We'll have to get a bottle. 01:29:20.974 --> 01:29:24.936 Well, that's, that sucks. It was very disappointing. I don't know. 01:29:24.936 --> 01:29:28.138 I saw it in the store. 01:29:28.919 --> 01:29:33.383 And I was like, ooh, French toast, breakfast, you know. 01:29:33.383 --> 01:29:36.345 So we were day drinking at Maker Camp. 01:29:36.345 --> 01:29:37.346 Oh yeah. 01:29:37.346 --> 01:29:40.688 And I pulled one of these, we had a four pack, and I'm like, 01:29:40.688 --> 01:29:42.810 I'm gonna give her one of these. And she started to drink it, 01:29:42.810 --> 01:29:46.152 and then she saw what it is, and then she saw it was 11%. And she's like, 01:29:46.152 --> 01:29:48.934 I gotta do more. I gotta make shit. 01:29:49.615 --> 01:29:53.057 I gotta work with tools. I'm about to TIG weld. We're gonna weld. 01:29:53.057 --> 01:29:57.360 I can't TIG weld with an 11%. Well, I can't take well with a with an 11% sound 01:29:57.360 --> 01:30:01.883 like a good idea No, it doesn't sound like neither does axe. 01:30:01.883 --> 01:30:08.627 Sorry, and we did that It wasn't ad hoc excellent it was in a trailer with the 01:30:08.627 --> 01:30:15.938 fence like it was Supervised but it was the kind of place where you'd expect 01:30:15.938 --> 01:30:21.862 someone just roll out some stumps and be just throwing axes in a crowd I mean it was Well, 01:30:21.862 --> 01:30:27.531 there is that moment when we did have the Redneck Games going on, okay? 01:30:28.011 --> 01:30:31.352 I felt like I was back at home in Brooksville. 01:30:33.303 --> 01:30:38.046 The entire week that we were there really because every night when I mean there 01:30:38.046 --> 01:30:46.612 was a party every night um And a bonfire every night and they got bigger As the day is gone and and, 01:30:47.563 --> 01:30:52.055 the parties got bigger and and Yeah, 01:30:52.055 --> 01:30:59.500 things got crazy, but you played a game played stump you did It's a bar game 01:30:59.500 --> 01:31:04.103 where you have a stump and a nail and a hammer and you try to drive the nail 01:31:04.103 --> 01:31:06.165 in, like, the whole way with one hit. 01:31:06.545 --> 01:31:09.507 There's different variations of the game. We were playing an elimination version 01:31:09.507 --> 01:31:15.531 of the game, where you had to flip the hammer and catch it. However you catch 01:31:15.531 --> 01:31:19.053 it is how you had to swing it. So if you made a bad catch, you're going to have an awkward swing. 01:31:19.474 --> 01:31:22.856 And then you hit someone else's nail and it's a last man standing. 01:31:22.856 --> 01:31:26.018 If your nail's not buried totally in the stump, you win. 01:31:27.199 --> 01:31:35.004 This stomp that I have pictures of it it was It's almost as big as this kitchen 01:31:35.004 --> 01:31:39.527 table, yeah, and it was this It was huge. 01:31:39.808 --> 01:31:42.690 This tree had been like 18 inches deep. 01:31:43.050 --> 01:31:48.494 Yeah, and It wasn't quite circular, but it was over three feet in diameter. 01:31:48.494 --> 01:31:53.538 Oh, well, yeah, because I couldn't reach over it I couldn't even reach half, 01:31:53.538 --> 01:31:55.739 I might have been able to reach halfway. 01:31:55.739 --> 01:31:59.042 For those of you who know metric, look it up. 01:32:00.923 --> 01:32:09.540 Okay, back to my, my, um, surprising, uh, evaluation of these wonderful beers 01:32:09.540 --> 01:32:11.865 that we had. Last Place Founders. 01:32:13.426 --> 01:32:20.531 Number what how many we have six? No. So number five we had the Prison City. 01:32:20.531 --> 01:32:28.297 Yeah. Yeah I Was really surprised I thought that one was gonna be good, 01:32:28.297 --> 01:32:31.400 but it just I don't know I just didn't have a lot of flavors. 01:32:31.400 --> 01:32:39.866 It was very muted like Greg said in third fourth Wait, where am I fourth place? face. 01:32:47.052 --> 01:32:52.295 The Shubaru's 8-4. Yeah. Which also surprised me because like I said, 01:32:52.295 --> 01:32:58.800 I just had this a few weeks ago on tap and I had two of them and I really enjoyed it. 01:32:58.800 --> 01:33:00.320 Probably was a lot fresher on tap. 01:33:00.320 --> 01:33:04.884 That's my explanation. Yeah. But it's up against a- You're so confusing. 01:33:05.364 --> 01:33:10.208 She put numbers on her notes, but she- The numbers- numbers backwards so her 01:33:10.208 --> 01:33:15.211 number one beer is her last the first beer she's going to read the number one 01:33:15.211 --> 01:33:19.394 is that number is the first one we tasted tasted i 01:33:19.765 --> 01:33:26.880 the numbers are how we went in the order so yeah although one and two are are 01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:31.603 six and five okay that's funny um all right So in third place, 01:33:31.603 --> 01:33:35.386 then we have, uh, what was this? 01:33:35.866 --> 01:33:38.827 The liquid. The fuck you from, from motherfucker. 01:33:38.827 --> 01:33:39.947 What's it called? 01:33:39.947 --> 01:33:41.452 The foul mouth. 01:33:41.452 --> 01:33:42.958 The foul mouth. 01:33:42.958 --> 01:33:48.049 The foul mouth. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It, um, it just, it was really good, 01:33:48.049 --> 01:33:51.150 but dumbed down a little bit. 01:33:51.840 --> 01:33:58.032 I did really like the, if I, I think if it wasn't for the cranberries, 01:33:58.032 --> 01:34:04.273 It really wouldn't have much of that tartness that you expect and the sour. 01:34:07.334 --> 01:34:12.237 And I don't know, it was good though. But yeah, it's up against a tough crowd. 01:34:12.237 --> 01:34:15.760 So second place, we have the cool shit. 01:34:20.603 --> 01:34:22.945 Almost swayed, but there's still the... 01:34:24.086 --> 01:34:25.286 It's all right, babe. 01:34:25.286 --> 01:34:32.212 Yeah. And then first, of course, that hoedown, which I'm still drinking. 01:34:34.203 --> 01:34:37.535 But I agree. Like, you can't drink a lot of it. 01:34:38.556 --> 01:34:42.499 It was like that Pizza Boy one that I had, the sunny side up. 01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:49.083 Oh, it was coffee barrel, sunny side up. Yeah. Sunny, coffee style. 01:34:49.083 --> 01:34:49.243 Yeah. 01:34:49.243 --> 01:34:57.268 It was a coffee style and that was excellent, but it was like this, you know? 01:34:59.130 --> 01:35:05.173 And it just, It's full of flavors and they were blended so perfectly together 01:35:05.173 --> 01:35:08.916 But you really can't drink a lot of it. 01:35:08.916 --> 01:35:13.158 It's true. It's true and Because you said that in for my fuck Mary kills, 01:35:13.158 --> 01:35:16.040 I think you did you didn't swing me in ranking But yeah, you know, 01:35:16.040 --> 01:35:22.224 I think that the cool ship is is the is the Mary in the fiddlehead Becomes the 01:35:22.224 --> 01:35:27.147 like Sports Illustrated model who you're like, yeah Yeah, I gotta fuck you Greg. 01:35:27.147 --> 01:35:28.327 Who are you gonna kill? 01:35:28.327 --> 01:35:29.168 I'm gonna kill Craig. 01:35:37.777 --> 01:35:44.481 That was awesome. All right, I'm gonna be good I could do I could put craig 01:35:44.481 --> 01:35:49.965 in this one, too, but I won't Hold on a second here spicy what? 01:35:51.847 --> 01:35:59.352 I had to I had to that was just too perfect So you should have kept the going I should have right. 01:35:59.352 --> 01:36:15.103 Yeah I mean, you just have a bed everywhere he goes I'm just having fun and drinking so anyways, 01:36:15.103 --> 01:36:21.647 yeah, I'm going to marry the cool ship because the cool ship is just yeah every 01:36:21.647 --> 01:36:27.690 day all day And I'm going to definitely fuck the shit out of the ho dad, 01:36:29.121 --> 01:36:31.332 Got a big dick too, 01:36:36.316 --> 01:36:40.519 Not too big but like big yeah, yeah a lot of girth. 01:36:40.519 --> 01:36:41.079 Mm-hmm. 01:36:41.079 --> 01:36:47.344 Fuck me her daddy Now I'm killing that stupid bastard, 01:36:47.344 --> 01:36:53.008 yeah Yeah, 01:36:53.008 --> 01:36:58.032 I think I'm gonna you know, I agree cool ship is the Mary that who that is the 01:36:58.032 --> 01:37:05.437 fuck and I'm gonna abort the French toast bastard All right, 01:37:05.437 --> 01:37:09.060 all right, this is great see you next time, 01:37:17.165 --> 01:37:24.810 Thanks everybody see you next time see ya Let me do a fade out before you do 01:37:24.810 --> 01:37:30.373 that no, I want to stop it just stop man just stop Animal Spirits.