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<v Greg>CBR episode 519 on May 17th, 2024.

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<v Jeff>Nice blend there, Greg. Gotta say, you really can do those intros.

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<v Jeff>Welcome back to Craft Beer Radio, people here in the room. I guess we had a spring break. Yeah.

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<v Jeff>A bit of a spring break. We haven't done a show since before we left for Atlanta.

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<v Jeff>yeah january so february yeah it's been a bit of a break it's been a minute

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<v Jeff>uh we've been traveling greg's been traveling and then we traveled some more so.

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<v Greg>Just ended up that way yeah what are you gonna do but.

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<v Jeff>Greg traveled to a very nice place with a very nice beer.

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<v Greg>Yes this is a spotted cow from new glaris uh brewing company this is available

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<v Greg>only in wisconsin so when i posted it to our discord which reminder to everybody

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<v Greg>check out our discord um and now jeff is looking for i.

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<v Jeff>Got everything here but the bottle opener.

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<v Greg>There you go thank.

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<v Shannon>You greg,

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<v Shannon>these.

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<v Greg>Jingles i don't know if you'll be able to even hear them with the ai we

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<v Greg>have post-processing but all my keys jingle

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<v Greg>jingle as he brings out the spotted cow now this is a uh farmhouse ale technically

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<v Greg>or at least what that's what they call it it's it's kind of it's a it's a lager

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<v Greg>with some flavor basically uh if you ask me and it's um it's great,

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<v Greg>Although they do it in cans now.

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<v Jeff>Okay.

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<v Greg>And what I found was that I liked it in the bottles more than the cans.

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<v Jeff>Uh-oh.

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<v Greg>But I have a theory as to why.

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<v Jeff>Okay.

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<v Greg>And that's why there are two other bottles here.

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<v Jeff>Oh, I'm guessing. I'm guessing it has something to do with light striking.

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<v Greg>No, that's not. Because like I said, it was better in the bottle.

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<v Jeff>Well, right. Right, but maybe it's a Saison-y thing where it's better with a

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<v Jeff>little bit of light strength.

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<v Jeff>So I thought the two other bottles that you were talking about were going to

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<v Jeff>be you had out on the counter for a week and out on the counter for two days or something.

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<v Greg>No, these have all been in the fridge in the same spot since the beginning of April.

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<v Shannon>Okay.

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<v Jeff>All right, so beer pours. I poured it very just incrementally in each little glass.

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<v Jeff>So we all got kind of the same amount of, um, haze and what,

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<v Jeff>and it is hazier than I would have expected it to pour.

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<v Jeff>Um, I didn't even like drain the bottle. I left most of the sediment in the bottom.

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<v Greg>Well, it's got lots of yeast in it. You'll be able to tell when you taste it.

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<v Jeff>Okay.

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<v Shannon>Yeah.

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<v Jeff>It's a golden color with, um, very hazy. It looks like a mix between a half a Bison and a wit beer.

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<v Shannon>Yeah.

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<v Greg>It's got that kind of banana stuff up front. Ooh.

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<v Greg>A little bit of the candy, the circus peanuts, too.

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<v Jeff>Okay. First thing I was smelling was like a crackery malt, like a biscuit or something like that.

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<v Greg>Oh, yeah.

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<v Jeff>And then kind of some hops, you know, like a noble hop or something like that,

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<v Jeff>a little spicy. Yeah. A little floral. Yeah.

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<v Greg>It's got a lot of good flavor on it.

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<v Jeff>Mm-hmm.

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<v Greg>Um, very flavorful, pretty mild, not going to blow you over with flavor.

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<v Jeff>Did we, we used to call this a cream ale, right?

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<v Greg>Mm-hmm.

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<v Shannon>Yeah.

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<v Jeff>And now you're saying it's labeled as a farmhouse. So maybe it always was labeled

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<v Jeff>as a farmhouse. I don't know.

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<v Jeff>But, um, you know, like there is, I think there was a little bit of that sweetness

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<v Jeff>from the malt that I don't know if there's corn in the grain bill or not.

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<v Jeff>Cremel typically has some corn in the grain bill, but the flavor still goes

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<v Jeff>that way, especially if you're expecting it.

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<v Jeff>You need a little bit of that kind of sweet, malty.

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<v Greg>I think it makes sense. You know, Wisconsin's going to be out there where there's

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<v Greg>going to be lots of farms in that area of the country and lots of corn.

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<v Jeff>Very smooth, subtle.

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<v Shannon>Tastes like an alagash.

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<v Greg>Yeah it has it is a lot of character from its from its yeast um which is you

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<v Greg>know not what you expect for like a flagship beer in general like the the beer

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<v Greg>that is the the thing that's like oh everybody wants to try it because you can't

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<v Greg>get it and it's just this subtle little

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<v Greg>beer it's not like the most amazing thing ever i like it,

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<v Greg>it's everywhere there like it is everywhere and in the at the airport on the

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<v Greg>way out they had like you could buy 24 packs of the cans there or six or six

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<v Greg>or yeah 12 packs of the cans that's awesome Um,

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<v Greg>so my theory is that the reason why I thought it was better in the bottles and

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<v Greg>the cans is because every time I had it there, I did not pour it into a glass.

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<v Greg>Okay. So I was drinking it directly from the vessel and I think this tastes great out of the bottle.

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<v Shannon>Huh. Interesting.

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<v Greg>And I don't think this tastes very good. Like it doesn't, it,

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<v Greg>it, it loses a lot out of the can.

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<v Jeff>Oh, I thought you were going to say it loses a lot in the glass.

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<v Jeff>I thought you were saying, oh, okay.

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<v Greg>No, it's great in the glass.

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<v Jeff>Okay.

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<v Greg>But, um, I think this is like, this just works really well in the bottle.

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<v Greg>That's why I have those bottles and you could try it if you'd like.

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<v Greg>Maybe we can wait till later.

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<v Shannon>Yeah.

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<v Jeff>I mean, I don't know. It would be more of.

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<v Jeff>Yeah, I mean, ultimately, it would be cool to have a can, a bottle, you know.

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<v Shannon>To be able to try it all.

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<v Jeff>Yeah. Let's go back to Wisconsin to get that.

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<v Greg>You can wash out one of those cans, put some in there.

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<v Jeff>There you go.

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<v Shannon>Yeah.

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<v Jeff>That would be a perfect experiment. No flaws there.

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<v Shannon>No.

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<v Jeff>All right. So that was a new Golaris, because Greg was out in Minneapolis, right?

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<v Greg>Wisconsin.

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<v Jeff>Wisconsin.

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<v Greg>I was in Milwaukee.

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<v Jeff>Milwaukee. That's it. you had your big corporate um trade show thing out there nice and next.

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<v Greg>Year san francisco.

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<v Shannon>Nice maybe we'll see.

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<v Greg>There's nice parts of san francisco.

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<v Shannon>Oh yeah i went i don't know what five years ago i guess but there's a lot of

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<v Shannon>like gross marks too yeah.

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<v Greg>So i want to check out those redwoods again.

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<v Jeff>Oh yeah i've never been out there oh.

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<v Greg>They're below your mind they're just taller than skyscrapers like what so.

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<v Jeff>Greg missed the eclipse because he was out in wisconsin yeah on that day but

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<v Jeff>shannon didn't no i didn't got to we uh the weather you know was pretty dodgy

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<v Jeff>all over the place so what we did was i couldn't sleep i was a kid waiting for

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<v Jeff>christmas morning kind of thing, right? So no sleeping for me.

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<v Jeff>I think I got up at 1.30 in the morning, hit the road by like 2.15, probably before that.

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<v Jeff>And when we left,

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<v Jeff>When we left, it seemed like our best odds were like having to go all the way

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<v Jeff>out to almost Indiana, like Western Ohio.

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<v Jeff>So we drove and got to my first proposed location by 6 a.m.

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<v Jeff>And still kind of cloudy. The weather report, as I was driving those four hours

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<v Jeff>across Ohio, better skies opened up closer to home.

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<v Jeff>I drove past, you know, areas where there were better skies. So that was annoying.

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<v Jeff>But we found a place called Van Wert.

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<v Jeff>Small little town, tons and tons of people from Michigan and Grand Rapids like went to there.

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<v Jeff>Like it was like little Michigan, but it worked out well.

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<v Jeff>There was a high haze in the sky, but got to see the eclipse.

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<v Shannon>That is beautiful.

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<v Jeff>Shannon. Yeah, she, she gets it now. And what was really cool,

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<v Jeff>which I didn't expect was last time we saw the eclipse, it was during a solar minimum.

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<v Jeff>This time it's during the solar maximum, and you can see the prominences with

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<v Jeff>your naked eye. You've seen the photos, right?

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<v Greg>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Jeff>It was like, what? I wasn't expecting that at all. So that was so cool.

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<v Jeff>All right. This beer is one we picked up on our way to Atlanta.

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<v Jeff>We spent the night in Knoxville, Tennessee, and there's this brewery called

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<v Jeff>Zul, X-U-L Beer Company. Um, and one of the best breweries I've been to in a long time.

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<v Jeff>So hopefully the beer has held up since the end of February and we can try this

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<v Jeff>one. This one is called Rhymes with Dimes.

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<v Greg>Rhymes like dimes.

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<v Jeff>Rhymes like dimes.

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<v Shannon>From Zool.

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<v Greg>There are no dimes. There is only Zool. Zool.

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<v Greg>Uh, Citra, Galaxy, Nelson. It says, uh, Ode to the King, Rest in Peace.

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<v Greg>Oh, this is an ode to MF Doom.

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<v Greg>MF Doom.

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<v Jeff>They had a ton of trademark infringing merch.

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<v Shannon>That's right. It seems like so long ago. Yeah. So much has happened since then.

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<v Jeff>All right so you read the hops off you said citra and galaxy and all those tropical

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<v Jeff>fruity dried fruit tops all the lovelies,

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<v Jeff>aroma that's cool can't you guys just wait.

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<v Greg>Here about a half hour yo keep going i'm trying to find the mf doom.

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<v Jeff>All right uh comes across guava e for me uh it's a a little um a little oniony

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<v Jeff>in the on the side but it's not really overpowering but i think it is there i.

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<v Greg>Don't there is a really cool mf doom instrumental i'm trying to find it keep going.

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<v Jeff>The beer uh is a hazy ipa and the flavor nice creamy mouthfeel full mouthfeel

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<v Jeff>brings us tropical hops.

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<v Jeff>It has a little bit of a straw flavor to it.

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<v Shannon>What do you got? It's still just as good as it was when we got it at the brewery, I think.

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<v Shannon>I think it sat, well, these last couple of months, very fruity, very tropical.

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<v Jeff>Talk into the mic, not to me.

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<v Shannon>Very tropical. Sorry.

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<v Greg>This is not what I was thinking of, but hey, it's pretty cool. MF Doom.

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<v Jeff>I am not familiar. I wouldn't have recognized the name MF Doom.

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<v Greg>He wore like a kind of a Mexican wrestler thing.

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<v Jeff>A luchador.

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<v Greg>Yeah, a luchador thing.

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<v Greg>Yeah, so definitely guava-y on the nose.

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<v Greg>Lots of those tropical notes. The very hazy.

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<v Jeff>What goes with this hazy more so than tons and tons of hazies I've had recently

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<v Jeff>is this one has that creamy velvety body to

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<v Jeff>go with it i was almost wondering like if

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<v Jeff>i had lost the touch to taste these

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<v Jeff>because there's been so many hazies lately where the body is kind of thin and

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<v Jeff>chalky and astringent and i'm like they're just not as delicious as they used

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<v Jeff>to be and this one has the body that makes the whole thing more luxurious your ears there's.

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<v Greg>A beat there's a song um from mfdm called one beer uh there's also a song called

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<v Greg>rhymes like dimes so it's up to you.

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<v Shannon>It's so smooth. It's very, like, velvety smooth.

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<v Jeff>Yeah, we actually left here to try out more Knoxville breweries,

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<v Jeff>and it was one of those things where it was like, we should have just stayed put.

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<v Jeff>You know, because they were head and shoulders better than the next.

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<v Greg>Best brewery in town.

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<v Shannon>I think this is it.

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<v Greg>This is the one. Yeah, this is the instrumental.

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<v Shannon>Is that where you discovered your shirts too?

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<v Jeff>Yeah I don't know if they're my new favorites,

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<v Jeff>I like them They're my new favorites, Anya There's a

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<v Jeff>flannel company called Dixon and they make

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<v Jeff>these shirts that can be collectible they do limited runs of flannels and stuff

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<v Jeff>like that and there's people that do collect them but they had a pop-up at Zool

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<v Jeff>and I decided to buy a couple and they're nice I would have never thought there

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<v Jeff>was a difference from one flannel to another.

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<v Jeff>It's just a shirt, right? There's buttons and a collar and sleeves.

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<v Jeff>But these Dixon flannels are pretty freaking nice.

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<v Shannon>It even has the little glass cleaner on the inside of the shirt.

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<v Jeff>Yeah, in the bottom corner on the inside of the thing, there's a little triangle

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<v Jeff>of microfiber for glasses and stuff.

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<v Greg>Oh, that's nice.

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<v Jeff>So they put that there. A lot of it's a lot of motorcycle culture,

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<v Jeff>too. So one of the ones I got instead of buttons, it snaps.

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<v Jeff>So like you're on your bike and just kind of rip the thing open to,

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<v Jeff>you know, ventilate and stuff like that.

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<v Jeff>What else? I don't know. It's a nice cut. I like like them. So they're nice.

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<v Jeff>Yeah, I got a set of new shirts.

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<v Jeff>I bought four of them thinking that both are collectible.

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<v Jeff>Maybe I'll sell one or two of them, you know. I'm just going to keep them all,

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<v Jeff>All right. That was rhymes like dimes.

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<v Jeff>And where do we want to go next?

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<v Jeff>Since that was so enjoyable, why don't you grab the beer over there?

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<v Jeff>Because that's another IPA from Zool.

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<v Jeff>It's going to be Zool Central tonight.

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<v Shannon>Which one is this one?

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<v Jeff>This one is 8-Bit Sunset. What? 8-Bit Sunset.

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<v Jeff>8-Bit like the video game.

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<v Greg>Yeah, I have a feeling that... I've seen this before, or we've done...

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<v Greg>I mean, we've done very... I mean, a lot of brewers have...

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<v Jeff>Shoebrew did those.

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<v Greg>Grew up in video games.

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<v Jeff>Shoebrew did a bunch of those pixelated IPAs. Probably what you're thinking of.

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<v Jeff>Like the 8-4 we did not too long ago, right? That was an ode to the last level of Super Mario Bros.

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<v Shannon>Right, right, yes.

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<v Jeff>Would you give me your glass there i need.

00:15:51.309 --> 00:15:58.309
<v Shannon>To finish my i'm just enjoying this one i want to savor it we.

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<v Jeff>Gotta keep the show live for the we don't do that for the listener so i know okay Okay.

00:16:03.649 --> 00:16:04.069
<v Shannon>There you go.

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<v Shannon>Let's see.

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<v Greg>I'm on their site now. I'm trying to find their beers. Are you sure? Recent collabs.

00:16:18.169 --> 00:16:20.889
<v Jeff>So while he's looking, I can read the label here. It has Citra,

00:16:20.929 --> 00:16:24.969
<v Jeff>Citra Incognito, Citra Cryo, Citra Spectrum, and Passion Fruit.

00:16:26.229 --> 00:16:28.069
<v Jeff>So a little bit of Citra in here.

00:16:28.189 --> 00:16:28.729
<v Shannon>A little Citra.

00:16:30.389 --> 00:16:36.989
<v Jeff>And uh in collaboration with bearded iris brewing i don't know where bearded

00:16:36.989 --> 00:16:44.209
<v Jeff>iris is doesn't say again zool is in knoxville tennessee highly recommend.

00:16:46.689 --> 00:16:50.209
<v Shannon>Definitely going back there again next year when we go back out.

00:16:50.209 --> 00:16:55.589
<v Jeff>Okay i won't argue and we're not going to go run to the other breweries No.

00:16:55.749 --> 00:16:56.669
<v Shannon>We're just going to say that.

00:16:59.749 --> 00:17:06.709
<v Jeff>This one has a little bit of a grittier aroma. It's a little more...

00:17:09.005 --> 00:17:13.685
<v Jeff>dank i guess yeah but it's still some tropics in there but then i got this weird

00:17:13.685 --> 00:17:18.765
<v Jeff>like unexpected floral thing pinching through there's.

00:17:18.765 --> 00:17:20.125
<v Greg>An orange blossom thing in there.

00:17:20.125 --> 00:17:26.045
<v Jeff>Okay yeah orange blossom and there's something that's almost like um like a

00:17:26.045 --> 00:17:32.265
<v Jeff>like uh some kind of candy aroma like a peach jolly rancher or sweet tart or

00:17:32.265 --> 00:17:33.805
<v Jeff>something Something like that, like aroma-wise.

00:17:34.265 --> 00:17:36.665
<v Shannon>I'm picking up a leathery.

00:17:37.865 --> 00:17:41.765
<v Jeff>Can I smell your glass? Make sure that the can didn't give us different layers.

00:17:43.305 --> 00:17:44.665
<v Jeff>Nope, smells the same to me.

00:17:44.865 --> 00:17:45.285
<v Shannon>Okay.

00:17:45.885 --> 00:17:46.725
<v Jeff>I'm not saying.

00:17:46.965 --> 00:17:50.205
<v Greg>There's a dankness in there that I think is coming through. It's kind of leathery, yeah.

00:17:50.425 --> 00:17:53.285
<v Shannon>Mixed with the fruity citrus.

00:17:53.645 --> 00:17:56.985
<v Jeff>Yeah, I'm not saying that there's not leather. I'm just saying you don't have

00:17:56.985 --> 00:17:58.425
<v Jeff>something in your glass that's not in mine.

00:17:58.545 --> 00:17:59.305
<v Greg>It's fruit leather.

00:18:00.245 --> 00:18:06.985
<v Shannon>Oh. are you serious are you joking now i smell strawberries see.

00:18:06.985 --> 00:18:10.305
<v Jeff>When you say fruit leather i do smell fruit roll-up like that concentrated like.

00:18:10.305 --> 00:18:15.865
<v Greg>Yeah i was kind of joking but kind of now joking in the sense that it's fruity

00:18:15.865 --> 00:18:19.025
<v Greg>and therefore that's why it's leather but yeah.

00:18:19.025 --> 00:18:23.925
<v Shannon>I don't get any of that like dusty library kind of leather smell that.

00:18:23.925 --> 00:18:30.185
<v Jeff>We a vocabulary the way we define it often is that kind of dusty leathery barn

00:18:30.185 --> 00:18:32.685
<v Jeff>library den thing i'm not getting that.

00:18:32.685 --> 00:18:39.525
<v Shannon>No it's almost just like a and now i'm just smelling strawberry i don't know

00:18:39.525 --> 00:18:46.465
<v Shannon>why that's the only thing that stands out but before it was kind of a musty

00:18:46.465 --> 00:18:51.925
<v Shannon>aroma mixed with With the citrusy? Yeah.

00:18:52.425 --> 00:18:54.885
<v Greg>Yeah. It doesn't taste too dank.

00:18:55.285 --> 00:18:58.505
<v Jeff>The flavor brings big fruits. For me, it's peach and strawberry,

00:18:58.665 --> 00:19:00.145
<v Jeff>I think, is what I'm getting.

00:19:01.205 --> 00:19:06.545
<v Greg>Yeah. With a little resin-y. That's where some of the dankness comes from. It's not as, like.

00:19:06.545 --> 00:19:08.125
<v Shannon>Bright as the last one, right?

00:19:08.265 --> 00:19:12.805
<v Greg>The other one was really bright and shiny.

00:19:13.445 --> 00:19:17.165
<v Jeff>Take a small but quick sip and drag it across your tongue.

00:19:17.245 --> 00:19:22.165
<v Jeff>Kind of suck it across your tongue. and you get like this like super candy flavor,

00:19:22.305 --> 00:19:25.225
<v Jeff>almost like cotton candy, like peach flower cotton candy or something like that.

00:19:25.665 --> 00:19:26.985
<v Greg>Nope. No? Nope.

00:19:27.005 --> 00:19:30.805
<v Jeff>You brought in air. I meant just kind of like without air, just kind of roll

00:19:30.805 --> 00:19:31.705
<v Jeff>it past your tongue quickly.

00:19:34.745 --> 00:19:39.405
<v Shannon>You don't get it? Mm-mm. I do, but it's more like,

00:19:41.505 --> 00:19:46.465
<v Shannon>maybe it's just because I've been eating saltwater taffy. But to me it's...

00:19:46.465 --> 00:19:50.465
<v Jeff>Pallet drift. It's okay. It doesn't mean you're wrong. It just means those are

00:19:50.465 --> 00:19:54.425
<v Jeff>the connections you're likely to draw or things you've drank and ate recently.

00:19:56.724 --> 00:20:01.584
<v Jeff>So this one probably isn't as overall luscious as the last one,

00:20:01.644 --> 00:20:05.124
<v Jeff>but it has facets that are amazing.

00:20:05.424 --> 00:20:08.784
<v Greg>Don't get me wrong. This is really tasty. And if you had those at a bar,

00:20:08.864 --> 00:20:10.124
<v Greg>you would not be disappointed.

00:20:10.244 --> 00:20:14.804
<v Jeff>I mean, it's like if I had to pick one or the other, one's like just a pleasant experience.

00:20:15.024 --> 00:20:21.084
<v Jeff>And this one has, oh, there's like four things in there that are just drawing my attention.

00:20:21.864 --> 00:20:26.424
<v Jeff>It's like which experience is better depends on what you're looking for.

00:20:26.724 --> 00:20:30.164
<v Greg>I feel like this one's a little bit more bitter. I feel like this one is a little

00:20:30.164 --> 00:20:36.704
<v Greg>bit more, um, the fruit is less tropical and it's more or less.

00:20:38.024 --> 00:20:41.884
<v Greg>Ideally tropical is more traditionally travel like oranges and things like that. Right.

00:20:42.264 --> 00:20:47.344
<v Greg>So, uh, there's a bit more of an earthiness to it.

00:20:48.964 --> 00:20:55.624
<v Jeff>Yeah, I agree. The, the resiny dankness that's in there, which is a total undertone

00:20:55.624 --> 00:20:58.984
<v Jeff>to the whole thing, but it does change the tune of the beer.

00:21:00.484 --> 00:21:07.824
<v Greg>So I'm thinking if I'm sitting watching a sunset, eight bit,

00:21:07.904 --> 00:21:11.004
<v Greg>of course, like, you know, so the sun is a block.

00:21:11.084 --> 00:21:13.144
<v Jeff>Like the intermission in Top Gun, right?

00:21:15.364 --> 00:21:18.644
<v Jeff>The Top Gun video game, there was an intermission when you see the sunset.

00:21:20.664 --> 00:21:21.544
<v Greg>Everything's blocky.

00:21:21.584 --> 00:21:22.364
<v Jeff>That's PJ, he knows.

00:21:22.444 --> 00:21:22.624
<v Shannon>I know.

00:21:23.244 --> 00:21:29.844
<v Greg>And, um, But, you know, this is a nice beer to sit there and watch the sunset with. I get it.

00:21:30.904 --> 00:21:35.504
<v Jeff>The more I drink it, I think I would, I mean, I'm not, I am going to spoil my rankings.

00:21:35.544 --> 00:21:38.164
<v Jeff>I think this one, as I'm getting to the bottom of my sample,

00:21:38.264 --> 00:21:40.264
<v Jeff>has surpassed the last one.

00:21:40.904 --> 00:21:47.644
<v Shannon>It's really good. I just really taste the strawberry and I love that strawberry flavor.

00:21:50.181 --> 00:21:52.001
<v Shannon>flavor that's just really popping out.

00:21:52.001 --> 00:22:00.161
<v Greg>That's so odd because to me there's like no strawberry really yeah um it is

00:22:00.161 --> 00:22:03.721
<v Greg>a lot of orange to me um almost.

00:22:03.721 --> 00:22:05.841
<v Jeff>Like sunny delight or something right like a little.

00:22:05.841 --> 00:22:07.481
<v Greg>Kind of yeah like.

00:22:07.481 --> 00:22:11.221
<v Jeff>A little bit i mean i think the peach is better like then you know there's not

00:22:11.221 --> 00:22:12.461
<v Jeff>like a nectarine or anything.

00:22:12.461 --> 00:22:18.281
<v Greg>There's a peach at the end i think we're this like i'm not,

00:22:18.741 --> 00:22:23.601
<v Greg>not tasting strawberry but it's not at all a dominant flavor in my mind it's

00:22:23.601 --> 00:22:29.141
<v Greg>like i can i can totally get where you're coming from and your tongue is your

00:22:29.141 --> 00:22:34.421
<v Greg>own so you're not wrong about what you're tasting but yeah to me orange and

00:22:34.421 --> 00:22:36.261
<v Greg>i think peach at the end is a good call.

00:22:36.861 --> 00:22:39.561
<v Jeff>Don't forget there's actually passion fruit in this beer.

00:22:39.561 --> 00:22:44.181
<v Greg>Yeah and that i can't like i don't have enough experience with passion fruit

00:22:44.181 --> 00:22:48.681
<v Greg>to be able to pick that out and say that's passion fruit and it's not as at

00:22:48.681 --> 00:22:57.521
<v Greg>least to me it's not as um obvious to say guava when i taste like yeah that's guava yeah.

00:22:57.521 --> 00:23:02.241
<v Jeff>I get you now that i remind that i kind of especially towards the bottom bottom

00:23:02.241 --> 00:23:05.141
<v Jeff>seems a little bit thicker like a little bit of the purees still in there or

00:23:05.141 --> 00:23:09.221
<v Jeff>something i bet you if i poured the dregs of the can out i'd get like a bunch

00:23:09.221 --> 00:23:10.821
<v Jeff>of passion fruity bits you know.

00:23:10.821 --> 00:23:12.041
<v Greg>Do it do it.

00:23:13.541 --> 00:23:17.581
<v Jeff>A lot cloudier super milky hazy,

00:23:22.625 --> 00:23:25.345
<v Jeff>Oh, that's bitter. That's all the bitter bits too.

00:23:26.865 --> 00:23:27.385
<v Shannon>Yep.

00:23:27.405 --> 00:23:34.305
<v Jeff>That brought all the bitter bits. All the, all the cryo, citra, spectrum, incognito.

00:23:34.485 --> 00:23:37.125
<v Greg>Citra, cryo, citra, incognito, citra, spectrum.

00:23:37.565 --> 00:23:38.085
<v Shannon>Wow.

00:23:38.185 --> 00:23:45.105
<v Jeff>That's, that's like, do you want to taste extremely, extremely like tongue-wrecking hop resins?

00:23:48.045 --> 00:23:51.585
<v Jeff>Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's best without that.

00:23:51.585 --> 00:23:54.905
<v Greg>There's not a lot of flavor there. There's just scratchiness.

00:23:54.985 --> 00:23:58.665
<v Greg>I can see how mixed in with the rest of the beer it would work.

00:23:58.745 --> 00:24:02.145
<v Greg>But at the end, it's just kind of, oh, we're scratching your tongue.

00:24:02.505 --> 00:24:05.285
<v Greg>But it's not like Bittrex bitter, right? It's not like...

00:24:07.445 --> 00:24:11.645
<v Greg>For those who don't know, Bittrex is the most bitter chemical there is.

00:24:12.025 --> 00:24:16.845
<v Greg>It's chemically designed to be only bitter, basically.

00:24:16.865 --> 00:24:21.025
<v Greg>And they put it in cleaning stuff.

00:24:22.745 --> 00:24:26.325
<v Shannon>I wish we had more of both of those last two.

00:24:26.505 --> 00:24:28.105
<v Jeff>Well, we'll just have to get back to Knoxville.

00:24:28.545 --> 00:24:30.065
<v Shannon>Well, February.

00:24:30.605 --> 00:24:36.405
<v Jeff>Yep. So after we went to Knoxville, we went to Atlanta for a conference called WorkbenchCon.

00:24:36.645 --> 00:24:40.645
<v Jeff>It's a conference for maker influencers and stuff like that.

00:24:40.725 --> 00:24:44.325
<v Jeff>So there was a bunch of YouTubers and Instagrammers and stuff there.

00:24:44.565 --> 00:24:48.545
<v Jeff>And Chin and I are doing a little bit of that with Gnarly Burl brand,

00:24:48.865 --> 00:24:52.245
<v Jeff>making in our shed and stuff like that. so it was a ton of fun going down there

00:24:52.245 --> 00:24:55.365
<v Jeff>we got to meet a bunch of the people that we watch on youtube and.

00:24:55.365 --> 00:24:56.705
<v Shannon>Everyone i wanted to meet.

00:24:56.705 --> 00:24:57.485
<v Jeff>Yeah i.

00:24:57.485 --> 00:25:00.445
<v Shannon>Got to meet and got a picture taken with them cool.

00:25:00.445 --> 00:25:05.845
<v Jeff>And and they also i mean they're really nice yeah they're super nice i mean

00:25:05.845 --> 00:25:09.785
<v Jeff>they're not they're not really like they're not ala celebrities you know none of them are that well.

00:25:09.785 --> 00:25:13.505
<v Greg>It's like when we when people met us at savor right like and then they were

00:25:13.505 --> 00:25:16.705
<v Greg>like oh my god we're like we're just we're We're just two schmucks.

00:25:18.885 --> 00:25:21.505
<v Greg>So give me a brewery and a name.

00:25:21.665 --> 00:25:22.645
<v Jeff>This is another Zool.

00:25:23.685 --> 00:25:24.565
<v Greg>Another Zool.

00:25:24.565 --> 00:25:30.905
<v Shannon>Another Zool. You don't know how hard it was to save one of each of these.

00:25:31.305 --> 00:25:34.865
<v Shannon>When we were at the conference, because we already had these and we had to keep

00:25:34.865 --> 00:25:36.125
<v Shannon>them in the fridge in the hotel.

00:25:36.145 --> 00:25:40.805
<v Greg>I had three new Clarisses in my fridge. Three of those.

00:25:41.225 --> 00:25:45.285
<v Greg>Great, like wonderful beers that would be amazing almost any time.

00:25:45.305 --> 00:25:47.625
<v Greg>Oh my God. Blood came out of that.

00:25:48.205 --> 00:25:51.365
<v Jeff>This is Betty's Blueberry Cobbler.

00:25:51.525 --> 00:25:53.765
<v Shannon>Oh, I remember this one.

00:25:56.589 --> 00:25:57.809
<v Shannon>Do you remember?

00:25:57.909 --> 00:26:03.689
<v Jeff>So they don't just do good IPAs over at Zool. They do amazing fruity things, too.

00:26:03.929 --> 00:26:11.349
<v Jeff>Like, they had peanut butter and jelly, which you've had other peanut butter

00:26:11.349 --> 00:26:14.569
<v Jeff>beers or peanut butter and jelly beers. Sure have. Yeah, they're kind of gimmicky.

00:26:14.809 --> 00:26:17.349
<v Jeff>The Zool one was downright good.

00:26:17.729 --> 00:26:19.929
<v Shannon>Oh, phenomenal.

00:26:21.189 --> 00:26:24.449
<v Greg>Blueberry cobbler, gluten-free, sour with blueberry, vanilla,

00:26:24.609 --> 00:26:28.709
<v Greg>cinnamon, and brown sugar. this beer does not contain lactose.

00:26:28.709 --> 00:26:33.449
<v Shannon>What does it call again i'm sorry i didn't write it down betty's.

00:26:33.449 --> 00:26:42.649
<v Greg>Blueberry cobbler 6.4 it is well i mean it looks like a blueberry drink yeah

00:26:42.649 --> 00:26:49.829
<v Greg>uh it's got that purple color like purple like did you put food coloring in

00:26:49.829 --> 00:26:52.429
<v Greg>this purple lacing yeah um.

00:26:52.429 --> 00:26:53.849
<v Shannon>I I think it looks like syrup.

00:26:54.569 --> 00:26:57.469
<v Greg>Yeah, it looks like blueberry maple syrup or something like that.

00:26:57.489 --> 00:27:02.349
<v Greg>Yeah, the blueberry that, like, a lesser brewery might put food coloring in

00:27:02.349 --> 00:27:04.889
<v Greg>here, but here you figure it, no, this is just how it came out.

00:27:05.069 --> 00:27:08.729
<v Jeff>And then you jump onto the aroma, and it's not blueberries. It's like cinnamon

00:27:08.729 --> 00:27:11.749
<v Jeff>and other, like, pie spices and things like that.

00:27:11.749 --> 00:27:13.849
<v Greg>Oh, there's blueberry, but there are pie, there are spices.

00:27:13.969 --> 00:27:14.989
<v Jeff>But it leads with the spices.

00:27:16.129 --> 00:27:19.889
<v Greg>No, actually, weirdly, the first thing was blueberry. Then the second step was

00:27:19.889 --> 00:27:26.469
<v Greg>all the spices. So, I mean, you know, it's however your nose and brain decides to, uh.

00:27:28.203 --> 00:27:32.943
<v Jeff>So it smells like, yeah, it smells like, um, yeah, now I'm getting the mix.

00:27:33.003 --> 00:27:38.923
<v Jeff>It smells like pastry and cinnamon and sugar and the, the kind of the blueberry

00:27:38.923 --> 00:27:42.763
<v Jeff>pie filling kind of aroma, that little jammy-ness is coming through on the side.

00:27:43.683 --> 00:27:49.363
<v Greg>So what is going to impress me most here is if they get like the viscosity right.

00:27:50.083 --> 00:27:52.343
<v Greg>Cause I think that's going to play a big role. If it's too thin,

00:27:52.383 --> 00:27:53.823
<v Greg>it's bad. If it's too thick, it's bad.

00:27:54.343 --> 00:27:58.583
<v Greg>Um, It smells like it's got all the flavors spot on.

00:28:08.463 --> 00:28:10.323
<v Shannon>I should have gotten a picture of that.

00:28:10.503 --> 00:28:13.263
<v Jeff>What is that? Was that a confirmation or a.

00:28:15.963 --> 00:28:18.723
<v Jeff>He's sitting there with his eyes closed with his finger in the air.

00:28:19.183 --> 00:28:20.983
<v Jeff>Now his hand is on his chin.

00:28:21.223 --> 00:28:23.803
<v Greg>That was not what I was expecting based on the aroma.

00:28:24.023 --> 00:28:24.423
<v Shannon>Really?

00:28:24.743 --> 00:28:27.443
<v Greg>The vanilla comes first.

00:28:33.403 --> 00:28:39.603
<v Greg>And they make a note of saying it doesn't contain lactose because it kind of tastes like it.

00:28:42.403 --> 00:28:42.963
<v Greg>Yeah.

00:28:42.963 --> 00:28:51.423
<v Jeff>I mean, it's not milkshake kind of thick, but I mean, it has a gravity to it,

00:28:51.503 --> 00:28:55.163
<v Jeff>which makes it fit the style of cobbler beer.

00:28:56.603 --> 00:29:02.263
<v Shannon>You could pour this over French vanilla ice cream.

00:29:02.303 --> 00:29:05.143
<v Jeff>Oh, yeah. Make a beer float out of that shit. Oh, my God.

00:29:05.543 --> 00:29:06.783
<v Shannon>It would be amazing.

00:29:06.783 --> 00:29:09.243
<v Greg>No, you totally could. And the flavors are all there and they're fantastic.

00:29:09.243 --> 00:29:14.203
<v Greg>But you almost kind of miss the best part, which is the carbonation in the back

00:29:14.203 --> 00:29:17.383
<v Greg>of your mouth, which gives it something extra.

00:29:17.523 --> 00:29:24.823
<v Jeff>It gives the blueberries their acid back, which in pie filling, it doesn't have.

00:29:30.863 --> 00:29:36.663
<v Shannon>That's really good. I wanted to drink that last one so bad.

00:29:37.543 --> 00:29:41.883
<v Jeff>I'm glad you saved it it was so hard.

00:29:43.463 --> 00:29:45.463
<v Greg>Uh wow yeah that is.

00:29:45.463 --> 00:29:49.103
<v Jeff>Oh he said wow it's a wow beer i mean most like,

00:29:50.523 --> 00:29:58.663
<v Jeff>when you say wow like not saying it's not when it's blurted out like that those

00:29:58.663 --> 00:30:00.863
<v Jeff>are natural wow beers and.

00:30:00.863 --> 00:30:04.943
<v Shannon>And i don't hear that very often coming from greg i've.

00:30:04.943 --> 00:30:08.363
<v Greg>Said wow to like Like, crappy beer, too. Like, wow. Wow.

00:30:08.363 --> 00:30:09.103
<v Jeff>You said wow?

00:30:09.223 --> 00:30:10.343
<v Shannon>Yeah, but that's the...

00:30:10.343 --> 00:30:10.483
<v Jeff>You said wow?

00:30:10.863 --> 00:30:17.223
<v Shannon>Wow. That's not so great. This was definitely a different wow.

00:30:19.690 --> 00:30:28.870
<v Greg>This is the kind of beer, though, that I would, if I had the kind of superpower that Jeff has,

00:30:29.110 --> 00:30:33.870
<v Greg>and I guess that you have inherited, I would love to keep a six pack of this

00:30:33.870 --> 00:30:38.090
<v Greg>and just have it and like have it once every three months or something like that.

00:30:38.310 --> 00:30:41.870
<v Jeff>She begrudgingly inherits it. She was yelling at me the other day because I'm

00:30:41.870 --> 00:30:43.590
<v Jeff>like, we got to save that beer for the show.

00:30:44.310 --> 00:30:44.670
<v Shannon>I was like.

00:30:45.450 --> 00:30:47.110
<v Jeff>She was mad. She was done with mad.

00:30:47.270 --> 00:30:51.610
<v Shannon>No. No. When are we going to have another show then?

00:30:51.710 --> 00:30:55.550
<v Shannon>Because dang it, I want to drink this. Right?

00:30:56.230 --> 00:30:56.710
<v Jeff>Yeah.

00:30:57.450 --> 00:31:04.190
<v Shannon>But no, it's, this one is, it's like a dessert wine.

00:31:04.450 --> 00:31:10.030
<v Shannon>You know, it reminds me of a dessert wine. Because you really don't, it's not for me anyways.

00:31:10.450 --> 00:31:15.770
<v Shannon>I love this beer, but it's not something that I could drink a lot of.

00:31:15.870 --> 00:31:19.910
<v Shannon>Like I'm not going to go to a brewery and have two of these. You know?

00:31:21.350 --> 00:31:25.010
<v Jeff>Yeah, the five ounces that we're each having right now. Yeah, it's perfect.

00:31:25.230 --> 00:31:26.170
<v Shannon>5.3.

00:31:26.170 --> 00:31:26.890
<v Jeff>Ounces or so.

00:31:29.370 --> 00:31:32.150
<v Jeff>It's better than dessert wine, I think.

00:31:32.310 --> 00:31:32.790
<v Shannon>Yeah.

00:31:32.890 --> 00:31:36.390
<v Jeff>Like, I've had some, you know, blueberry wines that are interesting,

00:31:37.030 --> 00:31:40.050
<v Jeff>but this is fucking delicious. Yeah.

00:31:40.490 --> 00:31:43.770
<v Shannon>So when I said a dessert wine, when I was comparing it, I meant,

00:31:43.850 --> 00:31:49.710
<v Shannon>like, you don't drink. It's not an everyday beverage.

00:31:50.050 --> 00:31:56.190
<v Shannon>It's something that you're going to have very infrequently, like you suggested, Greg.

00:31:56.450 --> 00:31:59.450
<v Jeff>And drinking 16 ounces in a shot is kind of a waste.

00:31:59.610 --> 00:32:03.530
<v Shannon>And it's a little much because it's very sweet.

00:32:05.190 --> 00:32:06.070
<v Jeff>I could do it.

00:32:06.130 --> 00:32:09.270
<v Greg>I could totally see getting a four-pack, getting really high, watching something.

00:32:11.270 --> 00:32:12.650
<v Shannon>With ice cream.

00:32:15.050 --> 00:32:18.590
<v Shannon>speaking of watching things did you happen to catch the fallout series.

00:32:18.590 --> 00:32:19.910
<v Greg>On yes i did oh.

00:32:19.910 --> 00:32:24.830
<v Jeff>Yeah yeah we just finished it it's surprisingly good i.

00:32:24.830 --> 00:32:27.810
<v Greg>Would say it's aggressively mid oh really yes.

00:32:30.070 --> 00:32:31.470
<v Jeff>Okay well may i.

00:32:31.470 --> 00:32:39.210
<v Greg>Talk about that talk about in the post show yeah um yeah it's uh but back to

00:32:39.210 --> 00:32:45.730
<v Greg>the beer i mean one of the things is hey here's a gluten-free beer that's amazing,

00:32:47.930 --> 00:32:54.470
<v Greg>yeah not what you may have expected but hey is it gluten-free yes it's gluten-free gluten-free.

00:32:54.470 --> 00:32:58.670
<v Jeff>You said didn't have lactose i thought you read.

00:32:58.670 --> 00:33:02.930
<v Greg>Blueberry codworn gluten-free sour blueberry vanilla cinnamon brown sugar,

00:33:06.376 --> 00:33:08.856
<v Greg>I don't know what grain they use, but they'd say it's gluten-free.

00:33:10.656 --> 00:33:13.116
<v Greg>It reminds me, you know, we talked about how much we're getting into cocktails,

00:33:13.236 --> 00:33:16.136
<v Greg>and I was watching some cocktail stuff.

00:33:16.336 --> 00:33:19.956
<v Greg>I managed to get some cool stuff from Maryland. I managed to bring some green

00:33:19.956 --> 00:33:22.156
<v Greg>chartreuse. I can't tell whether it's green or yellow.

00:33:22.456 --> 00:33:24.556
<v Greg>It kind of rivaled mine.

00:33:24.756 --> 00:33:26.196
<v Jeff>But chartreuse is really hard to find.

00:33:26.196 --> 00:33:27.716
<v Greg>It was $70. It was 70 bucks.

00:33:27.956 --> 00:33:28.356
<v Jeff>Oh, jeez.

00:33:29.436 --> 00:33:38.336
<v Greg>I got some cool ingredients. and some cool liquors from outside of the state.

00:33:38.416 --> 00:33:38.856
<v Shannon>Which was nice.

00:33:40.436 --> 00:33:44.876
<v Jeff>Yeah, I've never had a cocktail with chartreuse. I do know that there's not a substitute.

00:33:45.156 --> 00:33:50.076
<v Jeff>So when you can't get chartreuse, you can't really make those cocktails.

00:33:50.176 --> 00:33:53.676
<v Greg>I'll bring some next time, and we'll make like a, what's the one I like?

00:33:55.956 --> 00:34:01.016
<v Greg>Champs Elysees. Randy, chartreuse, lemon juice, simple syrup, and Angostura.

00:34:03.596 --> 00:34:08.836
<v Shannon>It i'm not drinking this fast the show's just gonna have to be so you.

00:34:08.836 --> 00:34:10.336
<v Jeff>Can sit on the side.

00:34:10.336 --> 00:34:15.396
<v Shannon>Greg's not drinking it fast either we're both savoring it okay all right well

00:34:15.396 --> 00:34:22.116
<v Shannon>while we're savoring it yeah let's talk about about our just let's talk about trips yeah.

00:34:22.116 --> 00:34:26.296
<v Jeff>I'm thinking like what's next we went to florida we did florida things.

00:34:26.296 --> 00:34:30.056
<v Shannon>We did florida things we did we did family I got.

00:34:30.056 --> 00:34:31.016
<v Jeff>With Shannon's family.

00:34:31.456 --> 00:34:36.136
<v Shannon>Well, it's your family too. So I still have a Cobra and you.

00:34:36.976 --> 00:34:40.756
<v Shannon>Oh yeah. When is that? Oh no, no, you might not. That might change.

00:34:41.816 --> 00:34:43.256
<v Greg>So that's mid October.

00:34:46.276 --> 00:34:49.476
<v Shannon>Cause we have the maker's camp and then we have Colorado.

00:34:51.756 --> 00:34:57.236
<v Shannon>When is it? Mid October. Okay. Yeah. I think it's going to work.

00:34:57.976 --> 00:35:02.376
<v Greg>Remember, all you need to do is come by my house once or twice and put water in there.

00:35:02.836 --> 00:35:10.356
<v Shannon>That's it. So, no big whoop. Yeah. I'm sure we'll be able to make it work. We just have...

00:35:11.056 --> 00:35:15.716
<v Greg>Probably really once, because I've only gone for a week. And I could probably

00:35:15.716 --> 00:35:19.216
<v Greg>make it work without, because they're both hardy animals.

00:35:20.476 --> 00:35:26.116
<v Shannon>It's not going to be there. Just write the date. You don't have to say it out loud.

00:35:26.736 --> 00:35:29.556
<v Shannon>It's not me saying it's not a question of you saying it's not a question of

00:35:29.556 --> 00:35:31.296
<v Shannon>us. It's that what are the dates?

00:35:32.096 --> 00:35:33.816
<v Jeff>You know, the middle of October.

00:35:34.036 --> 00:35:37.616
<v Shannon>Yeah. The middle of October. I can get the dates for you.

00:35:37.656 --> 00:35:41.856
<v Jeff>Your conference is the end of October, so we should be good.

00:35:41.976 --> 00:35:45.536
<v Shannon>The end of October, but Maker's Camp is a little bit later.

00:35:45.796 --> 00:35:49.736
<v Shannon>So I'm thinking it'll probably fall right in between both.

00:35:49.996 --> 00:35:55.136
<v Shannon>All right. I'm leaving the 14th. I'm arriving the 22nd.

00:35:55.176 --> 00:35:55.756
<v Jeff>We'll be back.

00:35:56.116 --> 00:35:58.396
<v Shannon>Yep. I think that's the right.

00:36:00.369 --> 00:36:02.949
<v Jeff>Our travelers are going to book in your trip.

00:36:03.089 --> 00:36:09.109
<v Shannon>Do you want to come over here and stay and dog sit then while we're in Denver?

00:36:09.309 --> 00:36:09.669
<v Greg>No.

00:36:12.209 --> 00:36:13.449
<v Shannon>Are you sure?

00:36:13.869 --> 00:36:20.289
<v Greg>I love dogs. He doesn't want a dog sit. But I don't want to live with a dog. Only for a week.

00:36:22.169 --> 00:36:29.889
<v Greg>I've dog sat for Mystic, who was Damien and Megan's pit bull, but she was like.

00:36:30.849 --> 00:36:36.589
<v Shannon>20 she was she was just the the most i.

00:36:36.589 --> 00:36:37.469
<v Greg>Don't know uh.

00:36:37.469 --> 00:36:41.049
<v Shannon>Stop pressuring greg he's not gonna watch cooper we'll just no i'm just getting

00:36:41.049 --> 00:36:45.469
<v Shannon>i'm just getting offended a little bit because oh don't starting to say she

00:36:45.469 --> 00:36:50.249
<v Shannon>was the most and he's gonna compliment that dog and also,

00:36:52.409 --> 00:36:53.089
<v Shannon>she.

00:36:53.089 --> 00:36:57.549
<v Greg>Was she was a calm very loving dog who would not hurt a fly and.

00:36:57.549 --> 00:36:59.269
<v Shannon>Um neither would cooper.

00:36:59.829 --> 00:37:00.989
<v Greg>Cooper jumps on you.

00:37:02.349 --> 00:37:04.589
<v Jeff>That's only because you bring him too many treats.

00:37:04.649 --> 00:37:06.429
<v Shannon>Yeah. It's your own damn fault.

00:37:10.269 --> 00:37:14.969
<v Greg>Cooper's been jumping on me since day one. That's not true. No, I like Cooper.

00:37:15.289 --> 00:37:18.389
<v Greg>And I would watch him for a day or two.

00:37:19.749 --> 00:37:22.089
<v Greg>But that's probably the extent of my ability.

00:37:22.749 --> 00:37:23.529
<v Jeff>Don't feel bad.

00:37:23.709 --> 00:37:27.169
<v Shannon>It's fine. We have a dog sitter. Okay. We have a dog sitter.

00:37:30.669 --> 00:37:33.669
<v Jeff>So, in Florida, was there anything cool in Florida other than hanging out with

00:37:33.669 --> 00:37:36.269
<v Jeff>the family? I mean, hanging out with the family was cool, but, like, cool, cool.

00:37:37.829 --> 00:37:40.509
<v Jeff>We'll talk about botanical brewing in the post-show.

00:37:40.929 --> 00:37:43.009
<v Shannon>I don't think... Oh, yeah.

00:37:44.029 --> 00:37:45.229
<v Greg>I never saw...

00:37:47.865 --> 00:37:51.725
<v Greg>I did say I never saw Mystic throw up and then eat it.

00:37:53.905 --> 00:37:55.885
<v Greg>I've seen Cooper throw up twice and eat it once.

00:37:56.185 --> 00:37:56.565
<v Shannon>Oh, gross.

00:38:00.385 --> 00:38:04.885
<v Jeff>Cooper doesn't throw up much, only when he tears apart the treats you bring.

00:38:05.325 --> 00:38:10.625
<v Jeff>Not only, but if you've seen him throw up twice, it's probably agitated by that.

00:38:11.185 --> 00:38:13.185
<v Jeff>You want to grab another glass so you can save your blueberry coffee?

00:38:13.185 --> 00:38:14.385
<v Jeff>Oh, the first time was not a treat thing.

00:38:14.745 --> 00:38:16.505
<v Shannon>Oh, Dan, another glass.

00:38:17.865 --> 00:38:23.205
<v Jeff>All right, back to IPAs, but this one is from Florida. This is Mosaic Material

00:38:23.205 --> 00:38:25.745
<v Jeff>from Angry Chair Brewing Company.

00:38:26.705 --> 00:38:31.985
<v Shannon>I love Angry Chair. We've been there a few times. Mosaic Material. Material.

00:38:33.425 --> 00:38:38.325
<v Jeff>Angry Chair is like the metal brewery in Tampa.

00:38:40.745 --> 00:38:48.045
<v Jeff>They have, you go there right now, they'll have seven imperial stouts on tap

00:38:48.045 --> 00:38:50.285
<v Jeff>with like different treatments of things.

00:38:50.405 --> 00:38:53.985
<v Jeff>And then they'll have five double IPAs.

00:38:56.525 --> 00:39:01.105
<v Greg>We have that one right behind you, by the way, that's an oat stout.

00:39:01.185 --> 00:39:04.645
<v Shannon>Mosaic. Mosaic material. Okay.

00:39:07.305 --> 00:39:14.665
<v Greg>So this one, according to untapped is a 5.5% mosaic IPA. That's all it has.

00:39:17.945 --> 00:39:22.865
<v Jeff>The aroma, first off, the thing pours your traditional heezy IPA.

00:39:22.885 --> 00:39:23.665
<v Jeff>It's a little more white.

00:39:23.725 --> 00:39:27.165
<v Jeff>It looks more like a white wit beer. Like it has a white cloddiness to it.

00:39:27.385 --> 00:39:31.385
<v Jeff>The aroma for me is straight up mosaic.

00:39:31.385 --> 00:39:45.965
<v Jeff>It's this tropical, let's see, like pineapple, dried pineapple, dried dates, dates?

00:39:51.009 --> 00:39:57.729
<v Jeff>A little bit of melon, like a kind of like a mellow cantaloupe.

00:39:59.389 --> 00:40:02.049
<v Greg>Interesting that they have a whole site and they don't have any.

00:40:02.069 --> 00:40:02.989
<v Shannon>Like, they don't have.

00:40:03.249 --> 00:40:07.849
<v Jeff>They, I think most of the beers are practically one-offs, you know,

00:40:07.869 --> 00:40:10.049
<v Jeff>so they probably don't put too much on their site about it.

00:40:10.729 --> 00:40:13.249
<v Shannon>It doesn't say what are the hops in it?

00:40:13.349 --> 00:40:16.189
<v Jeff>I'm guessing Mosaic since the name's Mosaic material.

00:40:16.509 --> 00:40:18.629
<v Shannon>I was just wondering if there was anything else.

00:40:18.629 --> 00:40:23.849
<v Jeff>Double dry hop india pale ale with mosaic hops keep cold drink fresh so.

00:40:23.849 --> 00:40:25.609
<v Shannon>They just use it.

00:40:25.609 --> 00:40:33.589
<v Greg>Makes me think because it's so mosaic which i mean mosaic was was sort of a

00:40:33.589 --> 00:40:45.269
<v Greg>midway hop between the the really um dank ones and And the more tropical ones, I would call it.

00:40:45.789 --> 00:40:50.429
<v Jeff>I mean, I would say it's full-on phase three, right?

00:40:50.569 --> 00:40:54.329
<v Jeff>It came in after Citra, and it was like the first truly tropical.

00:40:54.949 --> 00:40:59.549
<v Greg>I mean, if that's what you want to call it, it is one of the earliest ones.

00:41:00.009 --> 00:41:00.669
<v Jeff>Mm-hmm.

00:41:01.669 --> 00:41:11.829
<v Shannon>Okay. Either this didn't sit on the shelf very well, or it's just not up to par with Zolt.

00:41:11.829 --> 00:41:14.589
<v Jeff>Just not up the part of the island. It smells good, but the flavor is,

00:41:14.749 --> 00:41:18.049
<v Jeff>mouth feels light. It's a little bit scratchy on the tongue.

00:41:18.369 --> 00:41:20.549
<v Shannon>It definitely has that.

00:41:20.709 --> 00:41:23.609
<v Jeff>The wheat that's in it that gives it its haziness is kind of gritty.

00:41:23.709 --> 00:41:25.149
<v Shannon>It's gritty, yeah. Yeah.

00:41:26.529 --> 00:41:31.149
<v Greg>Yeah, this is, flight is absolutely affecting this one because,

00:41:31.289 --> 00:41:36.169
<v Greg>I mean, I think fresh and early, maybe right after New Glarus, it would be kind of okay.

00:41:36.249 --> 00:41:40.189
<v Greg>But still, the New Glarus had more story to tell than this.

00:41:40.189 --> 00:41:47.529
<v Greg>this is kind of one note um it's also like you know if you got it at a at a

00:41:47.529 --> 00:41:54.369
<v Greg>bar would you throw it out no would you would you drink it would you get another

00:41:54.369 --> 00:41:57.049
<v Greg>one you'd probably look for what else was on there yeah.

00:41:57.049 --> 00:41:57.969
<v Shannon>I would definitely look.

00:41:57.969 --> 00:41:58.509
<v Greg>For something.

00:41:58.509 --> 00:42:02.669
<v Jeff>Else yeah this like when i was talking earlier about how like there's been too

00:42:02.669 --> 00:42:06.929
<v Jeff>many hazy ipas where they're like not satisfying because the The body is,

00:42:07.029 --> 00:42:12.849
<v Jeff>the malt character on this one is exactly what I was thinking of when I saw that.

00:42:12.849 --> 00:42:19.189
<v Greg>I just kind of flavor the taste of watery. Like it had that like equatious like

00:42:19.189 --> 00:42:21.529
<v Greg>quality to it where it's like, yeah, you're missing body.

00:42:21.749 --> 00:42:28.289
<v Greg>You have hop flavor, but it's kind of more hop water with scratchiness than

00:42:28.289 --> 00:42:34.629
<v Greg>it is having that bready body to give you some substance. Yeah. Yeah.

00:42:36.793 --> 00:42:43.333
<v Shannon>It's disappointing because actually there was another one in the fridge just

00:42:43.333 --> 00:42:47.913
<v Shannon>recently, a few weeks ago, like right before we went to Seattle.

00:42:48.053 --> 00:42:53.873
<v Shannon>And it was, I drank that one because we had another one for the show.

00:42:53.993 --> 00:42:57.973
<v Jeff>But also you weren't in show mode drinking in a flight.

00:42:58.133 --> 00:43:04.993
<v Jeff>So there's so many times. Yeah. Countless times where I've been unsatisfied

00:43:04.993 --> 00:43:06.333
<v Jeff>with the beer sitting at this table.

00:43:06.333 --> 00:43:09.553
<v Jeff>and back in the days of bombers we'd reseal them

00:43:09.553 --> 00:43:15.233
<v Jeff>and i would drink them a day or two later on the couch watching tv and the beer

00:43:15.233 --> 00:43:21.493
<v Jeff>was so much better then resealed and sitting in the fridge for two days than

00:43:21.493 --> 00:43:27.453
<v Jeff>it was here being an asshole talking about the beer yeah what.

00:43:27.453 --> 00:43:31.593
<v Greg>You could also say oxidation may have played a slight role in there.

00:43:31.593 --> 00:43:38.273
<v Jeff>Improving it though i think i think my standards are lowered when i'm drinking

00:43:38.273 --> 00:43:41.333
<v Jeff>for recreation versus critique in.

00:43:41.333 --> 00:43:45.813
<v Greg>The sense that um slightly oxidizing might be okay.

00:43:45.813 --> 00:43:46.833
<v Jeff>Maybe but.

00:43:46.833 --> 00:43:52.613
<v Greg>Overdoing it might be bad you know how a slight oxidation can lend a beer an

00:43:52.613 --> 00:43:57.053
<v Greg>interesting quality over oxidizing in the the cardboard i.

00:43:57.053 --> 00:44:00.513
<v Jeff>I suppose i i believe this.

00:44:00.513 --> 00:44:05.493
<v Greg>Is a this is a yeah this is a conjecture that is probably not true.

00:44:05.493 --> 00:44:10.033
<v Jeff>I feel much stronger correlation is that we're drinking delicious beers in a

00:44:10.033 --> 00:44:16.793
<v Jeff>flight and a beer that is lesser than the other delicious beers tastes lesser

00:44:16.793 --> 00:44:21.133
<v Jeff>where when you drink it alone yeah it tastes delicious it.

00:44:21.133 --> 00:44:26.073
<v Greg>Still gets nearly a four out untapped so this is not like Like people are...

00:44:26.073 --> 00:44:29.113
<v Shannon>Oh, no. Yeah, no, it's a good beer. And...

00:44:30.731 --> 00:44:39.911
<v Shannon>I think it also is hard to switch from this cobbler blueberry over to the IPA

00:44:39.911 --> 00:44:43.631
<v Shannon>because after my third sip of this, I'm like,

00:44:44.351 --> 00:44:46.291
<v Shannon>oh, okay, I like this now.

00:44:46.551 --> 00:44:53.271
<v Jeff>But if I had done this after the Zool IPAs, we would have had the same problems.

00:44:53.331 --> 00:44:54.291
<v Shannon>Yeah, we definitely would have.

00:44:54.291 --> 00:44:56.051
<v Jeff>It had to be before the Zool IPAs.

00:44:56.091 --> 00:44:58.851
<v Greg>But frankly, even after Nucleus, Nucleus had more body than this.

00:44:58.871 --> 00:45:02.291
<v Greg>Yeah. Yep. Yeah, so I don't know.

00:45:05.771 --> 00:45:07.291
<v Shannon>But I don't...

00:45:07.291 --> 00:45:09.471
<v Greg>This feels like it's edging towards the kill category.

00:45:10.031 --> 00:45:15.151
<v Shannon>I don't think that it's aged well. I do believe... I know that we're really

00:45:15.151 --> 00:45:17.671
<v Shannon>critiquing him. I understand that. We've done that.

00:45:18.311 --> 00:45:21.631
<v Shannon>We've had that conversation before. But...

00:45:21.631 --> 00:45:22.331
<v Jeff>I'm with you.

00:45:22.431 --> 00:45:29.691
<v Shannon>I'm most certain that this beer was much better just a few weeks ago.

00:45:30.791 --> 00:45:33.091
<v Shannon>yeah buy it i mean it's been sitting in the fridge.

00:45:33.091 --> 00:45:39.311
<v Jeff>Now i was large i was stoked that the zool beers held up that they held up as

00:45:39.311 --> 00:45:42.171
<v Jeff>well as they did i was worried that they hadn't so,

00:45:43.391 --> 00:45:48.791
<v Jeff>this is the uh the the one where that comes true on the way back from florida

00:45:48.791 --> 00:45:52.971
<v Jeff>we stopped and spent the night in greensburg south greensboro south carolina that's.

00:45:52.971 --> 00:45:53.491
<v Shannon>Right we did.

00:45:53.491 --> 00:45:59.011
<v Jeff>And uh stopped at couple breweries there there was uh number one or aviation

00:45:59.011 --> 00:46:02.311
<v Jeff>i think was no aviator aviator i think,

00:46:02.791 --> 00:46:06.931
<v Jeff>no that's in that's in north carolina shoot the one that was at the airport

00:46:06.931 --> 00:46:11.311
<v Jeff>i can't think of the name of right now yeah i don't know grab your phone you've

00:46:11.311 --> 00:46:13.691
<v Jeff>got the flags yeah i don't know,

00:46:14.431 --> 00:46:18.651
<v Jeff>not important just trying to tell a story to fill some time here and me looking

00:46:18.651 --> 00:46:24.691
<v Jeff>it up on my phone's not gonna fill time so these nuts Um,

00:46:27.373 --> 00:46:29.993
<v Jeff>Yeah, I think it was fine. Didn't find anything knock out there.

00:46:30.553 --> 00:46:33.633
<v Jeff>Knoxville. Go to Zool. That's the moral of that story.

00:46:33.893 --> 00:46:34.533
<v Greg>Knoxville, go to Zool.

00:46:34.733 --> 00:46:35.013
<v Shannon>Yeah.

00:46:36.573 --> 00:46:38.473
<v Greg>Like, forge that in your mind.

00:46:38.753 --> 00:46:39.893
<v Jeff>Are you the key master?

00:46:40.213 --> 00:46:42.833
<v Greg>Yeah, yeah. Make a tattoo of it so you don't forget.

00:46:43.033 --> 00:46:49.653
<v Shannon>Like, memento style. I actually put a tattoo of Zool on my body somewhere.

00:46:49.873 --> 00:46:57.653
<v Shannon>It might not be on my arm, on my sleeve here with the rest of them, But yeah, consider it.

00:46:57.673 --> 00:47:01.353
<v Shannon>They have some Jeff's forehead. Oh, so that you always remember.

00:47:01.833 --> 00:47:03.193
<v Jeff>I'll remember. You don't have to do that.

00:47:03.513 --> 00:47:08.833
<v Shannon>Yeah. I don't think I have to do that either. Although there's some other places you could put it on.

00:47:11.353 --> 00:47:12.093
<v Jeff>What's that mean?

00:47:14.373 --> 00:47:16.113
<v Shannon>When she does a certain thing.

00:47:16.173 --> 00:47:17.633
<v Greg>She wants to taste that cobbler.

00:47:21.173 --> 00:47:23.653
<v Jeff>Okay. I'll attach you away then.

00:47:25.533 --> 00:47:28.073
<v Shannon>Okay. I'm pretty sure he'd chicken out.

00:47:30.493 --> 00:47:32.033
<v Jeff>All right. Let's.

00:47:32.093 --> 00:47:32.393
<v Shannon>I.

00:47:33.413 --> 00:47:34.313
<v Jeff>We've got two more.

00:47:34.393 --> 00:47:36.693
<v Shannon>I said I wasn't going to point that out, but here. Do you want it?

00:47:36.773 --> 00:47:37.073
<v Jeff>Poured out.

00:47:37.353 --> 00:47:37.753
<v Shannon>Okay.

00:47:38.653 --> 00:47:42.413
<v Jeff>Oh, another pod. Damn it. Greg, get the jingly jangles out.

00:47:42.793 --> 00:47:45.873
<v Shannon>Get your jingles. In that jingle jangle organ.

00:47:46.673 --> 00:47:47.573
<v Greg>Oh, come on.

00:47:47.573 --> 00:47:52.933
<v Shannon>Following you why do we not have a bottle opener sitting over here oh we don't

00:47:52.933 --> 00:47:56.793
<v Shannon>traditionally do a lot of bottles so i know but we always have a bottle opener

00:47:56.793 --> 00:48:03.673
<v Shannon>from yeah from craig remember this beer is.

00:48:03.673 --> 00:48:11.593
<v Jeff>Called all is vanity and this is from bold monk brewing company in atlanta georgia

00:48:11.593 --> 00:48:16.473
<v Jeff>this is a fooder aged to say fooder fermented saison.

00:48:17.213 --> 00:48:18.833
<v Shannon>From Bold Monk.

00:48:20.633 --> 00:48:21.993
<v Greg>Bold Monk.

00:48:22.113 --> 00:48:23.973
<v Jeff>Comes in a half liter bottle.

00:48:25.173 --> 00:48:26.033
<v Shannon>You said it's a Saison?

00:48:26.593 --> 00:48:28.453
<v Jeff>Fooder fermented Saison.

00:48:30.673 --> 00:48:37.353
<v Greg>It is a 2023 U.S. Open gold medal award-winning photofermented beer with House

00:48:37.353 --> 00:48:46.633
<v Greg>Saison and Brett with German Diamant hops, 5.2%.

00:48:49.633 --> 00:48:53.633
<v Shannon>This is one we didn't get to try. We just got the bottle.

00:48:53.973 --> 00:48:58.673
<v Jeff>The bottle. We stopped. I think it's the only brewery we stopped at in Atlanta.

00:48:58.673 --> 00:49:04.413
<v Jeff>because when we were at the convention center the convention center is just

00:49:04.413 --> 00:49:09.333
<v Jeff>stupid oh there's a story we can tell stupid awesome stupid awesome but stupid

00:49:09.333 --> 00:49:12.053
<v Jeff>isolated from other things um,

00:49:13.193 --> 00:49:19.093
<v Jeff>and atlanta is just for good reason atlanta traffic is just stupid stupid yeah um it's.

00:49:19.093 --> 00:49:21.813
<v Shannon>Coming from somebody who's not ever driven that.

00:49:21.813 --> 00:49:22.853
<v Jeff>Crazy bad yeah.

00:49:22.853 --> 00:49:24.713
<v Greg>You're never doing the beltway or i.

00:49:24.713 --> 00:49:27.633
<v Jeff>Have what ones one other time i've driven the.

00:49:27.633 --> 00:49:28.773
<v Shannon>Beltways several times.

00:49:28.773 --> 00:49:33.933
<v Jeff>He's talking about around dc um sorry.

00:49:33.933 --> 00:49:40.653
<v Greg>Yeah yeah the beltway around dc is one of the like it gets marks from people

00:49:40.653 --> 00:49:45.953
<v Greg>who are from la yeah as being like terrible the.

00:49:45.953 --> 00:49:52.113
<v Jeff>Um yeah so we before the conference started we we decided to go get lunch over at Bold Monk.

00:49:52.153 --> 00:49:55.313
<v Jeff>It wasn't too far. We stopped at a couple breweries. It was like day drinking, though.

00:49:55.393 --> 00:49:58.213
<v Jeff>Like, there was no one at the first brewery. I can't remember the name of that one.

00:49:58.393 --> 00:50:00.293
<v Shannon>It was too early to check into the hotel.

00:50:00.653 --> 00:50:01.673
<v Jeff>That's what it was, yeah.

00:50:01.753 --> 00:50:05.493
<v Shannon>But it wasn't too late to start drinking, or too early to start drinking for some reason.

00:50:05.553 --> 00:50:06.353
<v Jeff>We were on vacation.

00:50:06.653 --> 00:50:11.233
<v Shannon>Yeah. Right. And in Atlanta, breweries open early.

00:50:12.853 --> 00:50:16.413
<v Shannon>I think we went to one that opened at like 10 o'clock in the morning, didn't we?

00:50:17.573 --> 00:50:20.673
<v Jeff>Yeah, maybe. Maybe we were like, there was two people there.

00:50:20.773 --> 00:50:21.073
<v Shannon>Yeah.

00:50:21.953 --> 00:50:26.393
<v Jeff>All right. This beer pours a hazy gold, like all the other beers,

00:50:26.393 --> 00:50:27.673
<v Jeff>except for the blueberry one.

00:50:28.973 --> 00:50:32.553
<v Jeff>The aroma straight up is like, yeah, this is a bread beer.

00:50:32.773 --> 00:50:39.713
<v Jeff>This is, this is funky. It has that kind of woody, like rotten,

00:50:39.773 --> 00:50:44.533
<v Jeff>like, like out in the, out in the forest, decaying log kind of aroma. aroma that.

00:50:44.533 --> 00:50:47.153
<v Greg>That sweater that you haven't touched in four.

00:50:47.153 --> 00:50:54.313
<v Shannon>Years oh man i don't know if it gets his own.

00:50:54.313 --> 00:51:04.073
<v Jeff>A yeasty rope a rope a yeasty rope that's sitting in a kind of humid barn where

00:51:04.073 --> 00:51:08.293
<v Jeff>the yeast is like landed on it and started to propagate and have.

00:51:08.293 --> 00:51:08.993
<v Shannon>You tasted that.

00:51:08.993 --> 00:51:14.753
<v Jeff>Yes i have we've had this conversation tastes like asshole yes I've tasted asshole,

00:51:20.009 --> 00:51:26.769
<v Jeff>It smells delicious. I mean, it smells like a good, funky brett beer.

00:51:27.529 --> 00:51:31.329
<v Shannon>I don't think that it lives up to its aroma.

00:51:32.829 --> 00:51:40.309
<v Greg>Yeah. This is a gold medal award-winning floater, and I'm getting kind of mixed

00:51:40.309 --> 00:51:44.809
<v Greg>stuff from it that doesn't— it isn't really tasty.

00:51:46.209 --> 00:51:50.169
<v Greg>It's not tasty. It's complex. complex, but it's not tasty.

00:51:50.169 --> 00:51:51.149
<v Shannon>But not in a good way.

00:51:52.389 --> 00:51:54.489
<v Greg>It's got complex, bad flavors in it.

00:51:55.809 --> 00:51:57.609
<v Shannon>Maybe it's because it's too cold.

00:51:58.229 --> 00:52:05.889
<v Jeff>It's not that cold. Cupping our hands probably isn't going to make it much better.

00:52:06.309 --> 00:52:10.209
<v Jeff>I don't think it's as bad as you guys are thinking it is right now,

00:52:10.329 --> 00:52:16.629
<v Jeff>but it doesn't have the zinger of oh, that's the thing to look at. It's kind of.

00:52:18.269 --> 00:52:21.469
<v Shannon>I guess I had expectations of Hill Farmstead.

00:52:22.169 --> 00:52:27.049
<v Greg>Yeah, I'm looking for something bright. I'm looking for something that's not,

00:52:27.269 --> 00:52:30.569
<v Greg>that doesn't have an undercurrent of dirt.

00:52:31.949 --> 00:52:36.209
<v Shannon>Yeah, dirt. It's like trying to swallow.

00:52:37.529 --> 00:52:40.129
<v Greg>The very fungal quality to this beer.

00:52:40.689 --> 00:52:45.629
<v Shannon>Yeah. Worm dirt. Like really good soil.

00:52:45.629 --> 00:52:51.509
<v Jeff>Oil but a composty yeah delicious composting i.

00:52:51.509 --> 00:52:53.769
<v Shannon>Mean does it do.

00:52:53.769 --> 00:53:01.569
<v Jeff>You guys taste that i get i do i taste yeah yeah there's there's a fungal thing

00:53:01.569 --> 00:53:08.509
<v Jeff>not too unlike like um the the grow bag for the The lion's mane.

00:53:08.729 --> 00:53:10.269
<v Shannon>Yes. Yeah.

00:53:11.209 --> 00:53:19.709
<v Jeff>Like the grain and the mycelium colony and stuff in the lion's mane bag doesn't smell unlike this.

00:53:22.035 --> 00:53:23.695
<v Greg>It's complex enough that I keep

00:53:23.695 --> 00:53:28.655
<v Greg>trying to find something, but I can't find anything in here that's good.

00:53:28.935 --> 00:53:33.035
<v Greg>I get a lot of really interesting bad flavors.

00:53:34.555 --> 00:53:41.275
<v Jeff>See, I don't have anything that is like, ooh, that's the good part.

00:53:41.855 --> 00:53:45.035
<v Jeff>This isn't coming out how I want to come out.

00:53:47.235 --> 00:53:57.895
<v Jeff>I find the exploration of the beer enjoyable, but it is mostly brett.

00:53:58.735 --> 00:54:05.135
<v Jeff>And that limits the opportunity,

00:54:05.375 --> 00:54:10.035
<v Jeff>where if it was in a mixed culture and there was more tartness to it and more

00:54:10.035 --> 00:54:14.555
<v Jeff>sourness to it versus just the dirtiness to it.

00:54:15.035 --> 00:54:21.695
<v Greg>If the beer that tasted like this won the gold medal, then the U S open judges

00:54:21.695 --> 00:54:25.055
<v Greg>are up their own ass because this is not a tasty beer.

00:54:25.455 --> 00:54:30.535
<v Greg>This is a, this is a complicated beer. This is, I look, I'll say it's an interesting

00:54:30.535 --> 00:54:32.495
<v Greg>beer, but it's not tasty.

00:54:34.195 --> 00:54:36.715
<v Shannon>Complicated. I was trying to find something good.

00:54:36.975 --> 00:54:37.495
<v Greg>Yeah.

00:54:38.935 --> 00:54:43.495
<v Jeff>It's getting more tangy for me now. I think I'm getting a little acclimated to it.

00:54:44.075 --> 00:54:47.695
<v Jeff>I, Vinaigrette salad, this would go kind of with.

00:54:47.795 --> 00:54:53.655
<v Greg>No, because maybe if you put some truffle oil in it to brighten it up a bit.

00:54:53.955 --> 00:54:56.815
<v Jeff>Right. It's not good, I guess.

00:54:56.995 --> 00:54:57.175
<v Shannon>No.

00:54:57.255 --> 00:55:02.935
<v Jeff>I don't want to sway you guys. I don't hate it, but it's not highly ranking on the show tonight.

00:55:03.235 --> 00:55:07.735
<v Shannon>If I was eating a Caesar salad or...

00:55:14.362 --> 00:55:19.202
<v Shannon>A fish, like salmon or any type of seafood,

00:55:19.622 --> 00:55:29.442
<v Shannon>not any, but trout, this would go well, I think.

00:55:29.562 --> 00:55:39.262
<v Shannon>I mean, I wouldn't order another one, but I think it would, I think the two

00:55:39.262 --> 00:55:40.442
<v Shannon>would complement each other.

00:55:44.942 --> 00:55:47.822
<v Shannon>That's about the only time that I think that I could enjoy it.

00:55:50.142 --> 00:55:50.682
<v Greg>Honestly?

00:55:55.062 --> 00:55:58.462
<v Greg>Like, seriously, this is...

00:56:01.102 --> 00:56:06.742
<v Shannon>When you smell your own fart, you're like... I just ate it!

00:56:11.542 --> 00:56:12.082
<v Greg>Sorry.

00:56:15.562 --> 00:56:20.702
<v Shannon>I'm just trying i'm okay like an everything

00:56:20.702 --> 00:56:29.802
<v Shannon>bagel with lox on it no that tastes amazing i know but i can i can put those

00:56:29.802 --> 00:56:35.142
<v Shannon>two things together and say you know what this would go with an everything bagel

00:56:35.142 --> 00:56:40.682
<v Shannon>and lox tell me it wouldn't jeff taste it again i think i think.

00:56:40.682 --> 00:56:41.962
<v Jeff>I think the Caesar salad's a better call.

00:56:42.002 --> 00:56:42.802
<v Shannon>Caesar salad, definitely.

00:56:42.802 --> 00:56:47.802
<v Jeff>And trout's a good call. I don't know if I'd go with the lox and bagel. I don't think salmon.

00:56:48.802 --> 00:56:51.342
<v Jeff>I think whitefish is what it has to go with.

00:56:51.662 --> 00:56:53.662
<v Shannon>Well. These nuts.

00:56:55.102 --> 00:56:55.802
<v Greg>Tastes like.

00:56:57.662 --> 00:56:59.922
<v Shannon>Alright. Alright.

00:57:03.382 --> 00:57:05.842
<v Greg>I have no idea what that is.

00:57:08.062 --> 00:57:14.582
<v Jeff>It's Skibbity. skibbity toilet um so i was like commuting with the the gen alpha

00:57:14.582 --> 00:57:16.162
<v Jeff>people and there's this youtube,

00:57:16.942 --> 00:57:19.942
<v Jeff>short series called skibbity toilet and that's

00:57:19.942 --> 00:57:22.702
<v Jeff>kind of where the skibbity slang that all the middle

00:57:22.702 --> 00:57:27.822
<v Jeff>schoolers are using came from it's kind of interesting because

00:57:27.822 --> 00:57:30.582
<v Jeff>there's like 72 short episodes of this

00:57:30.582 --> 00:57:38.442
<v Jeff>thing and it's this wow how do i describe it quickly wow maybe i'll save it

00:57:38.442 --> 00:57:42.702
<v Jeff>for the post show because yeah greg's or greg's queuing me off he's starting

00:57:42.702 --> 00:57:49.982
<v Jeff>the the music there so all right so uh greg you brought this beer back from maryland right yeah.

00:57:49.982 --> 00:57:52.002
<v Greg>Well i bought it in maryland not sure exactly where it's.

00:57:52.002 --> 00:57:56.822
<v Jeff>From oh well let's see where is it from frederick mother town brewery i gotta

00:57:56.822 --> 00:58:03.382
<v Jeff>get some paper house okay get your paper time Old Mother Town Brewery.

00:58:03.382 --> 00:58:04.602
<v Greg>What's the beer name?

00:58:04.922 --> 00:58:05.602
<v Jeff>Callisto.

00:58:06.462 --> 00:58:07.142
<v Shannon>Callisto.

00:58:07.302 --> 00:58:09.262
<v Greg>So back to ancient Greece.

00:58:16.699 --> 00:58:22.159
<v Greg>this was um just i i didn't uh pick up a lot it's not.

00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:23.119
<v Jeff>Poured over your laptop.

00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:28.139
<v Greg>I didn't pick up a lot of beer while i was there but this was one that i saw

00:58:28.139 --> 00:58:32.219
<v Greg>and i was like yeah you know i'll give it a shot and it wasn't terrible so i

00:58:32.219 --> 00:58:35.679
<v Greg>said hey let's uh save some for the show double.

00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:36.599
<v Jeff>Oat stout,

00:58:41.339 --> 00:58:41.859
<v Jeff>so

00:58:41.859 --> 00:58:44.159
<v Greg>Is it the double calisto or just the calisto.

00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:47.959
<v Shannon>Calisto oh no double oat stout.

00:58:47.959 --> 00:58:49.479
<v Jeff>But it doesn't say double calisto.

00:58:49.479 --> 00:58:54.399
<v Shannon>No it doesn't say double calisto but it says double oat stout what's the brewery.

00:58:54.399 --> 00:59:01.019
<v Greg>Um this yeah this is the this is the class there is a double version of this Is that quadruple?

00:59:01.739 --> 00:59:02.679
<v Jeff>Callisto squared.

00:59:04.279 --> 00:59:06.939
<v Shannon>The double Callisto is 8%.

00:59:06.939 --> 00:59:08.699
<v Greg>And this is 6%. So, yeah.

00:59:10.579 --> 00:59:17.299
<v Jeff>All right. The aroma on this guy is kind of what you'd expect from a 6% oat

00:59:17.299 --> 00:59:19.239
<v Jeff>imperial, or oat stout, right?

00:59:19.339 --> 00:59:21.859
<v Jeff>There's no booziness. there's a,

00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:30.399
<v Jeff>fireplace worth of like char aroma, like roast aroma.

00:59:30.739 --> 00:59:37.399
<v Greg>So I'll warn you that just so you know, the Angry Chair got a 3.9, this got a 3.8. Oh.

00:59:38.179 --> 00:59:38.699
<v Shannon>Okay.

00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:44.959
<v Greg>So that could be telling you something terrible about Untapped or are we telling

00:59:44.959 --> 00:59:46.479
<v Greg>you something terrible about the beer? I don't know.

00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:49.459
<v Jeff>Untapped's garbage.

00:59:50.539 --> 00:59:51.219
<v Greg>Laughing.

00:59:54.541 --> 00:59:56.541
<v Shannon>There's a lot of newbies on Untapped.

00:59:56.721 --> 01:00:03.961
<v Greg>Yeah, yeah. Like, any aggregate raider on the internet these days is hard to...

01:00:04.901 --> 01:00:10.081
<v Jeff>Back in the days where I was, like, using Beer Advocate and actually putting

01:00:10.081 --> 01:00:14.521
<v Jeff>reviews on Beer Advocate, Beer Advocate had a character limit, right?

01:00:14.561 --> 01:00:18.281
<v Jeff>Like, you actually had to write a thoughtful review to get submitted on Beer

01:00:18.281 --> 01:00:24.301
<v Jeff>Advocate. it uh not saying that they were the most pristine source of data but

01:00:24.301 --> 01:00:27.261
<v Jeff>compared to just putting a couple stars on your phone and hitting submit.

01:00:27.261 --> 01:00:32.221
<v Greg>There was a golden age of brewery websites where pretty much every beer was

01:00:32.221 --> 01:00:36.841
<v Greg>listed and they told you what it was made from and all that stuff and that age

01:00:36.841 --> 01:00:43.201
<v Greg>is long past now now people don't want information people want to yell at each other so so,

01:00:46.741 --> 01:00:47.241
<v Greg>So.

01:00:47.241 --> 01:00:52.001
<v Shannon>I really don't get a lot from the aroma.

01:00:52.341 --> 01:00:56.581
<v Greg>I don't think it's really giving you much. I think it's giving you roasty,

01:00:56.761 --> 01:00:58.961
<v Greg>it's giving you stouty, and that's kind of it.

01:00:59.081 --> 01:01:02.121
<v Greg>It's not trying to overwhelm you.

01:01:05.581 --> 01:01:08.941
<v Shannon>It's not what I'm used to in a stout. I'm used to a stout going,

01:01:09.061 --> 01:01:13.581
<v Shannon>when I sniff it, I'm like, oh my God, I can't wait to taste it.

01:01:13.761 --> 01:01:15.881
<v Shannon>This one is just like, huh?

01:01:16.261 --> 01:01:24.261
<v Greg>Right after that, the other one, the astringent notes carry through pretty rough.

01:01:24.381 --> 01:01:24.661
<v Jeff>Mm-hmm.

01:01:25.789 --> 01:01:32.189
<v Jeff>I mean, most of the stouts that we end up drinking and trying are either really

01:01:32.189 --> 01:01:34.829
<v Jeff>big stouts, barrel-aged stouts.

01:01:35.109 --> 01:01:42.509
<v Jeff>We don't usually go towards the Irish stouts and the more mundane stouty stouts.

01:01:42.589 --> 01:01:48.249
<v Jeff>And while this is double-oated or whatever, it's way closer to a traditional

01:01:48.249 --> 01:01:53.889
<v Jeff>English-style stout than, or an American double stout than an imperial stout.

01:01:54.189 --> 01:01:54.589
<v Shannon>Oh, okay.

01:01:54.589 --> 01:01:59.949
<v Greg>Keep in mind, I'm going, I'm at a liquor store trying to find mostly like interesting,

01:02:00.229 --> 01:02:03.349
<v Greg>uh, you know, cordials that I can bring in.

01:02:03.469 --> 01:02:09.209
<v Greg>And I go to the beer area and hazy, hazy, hazy, hazy, hazy, hazy, hazy.

01:02:09.869 --> 01:02:11.769
<v Greg>Where's something that's not a hazy?

01:02:12.369 --> 01:02:12.769
<v Shannon>Yeah.

01:02:13.289 --> 01:02:17.129
<v Jeff>Oh, no, no blames on the suggestion. The beer is what it is.

01:02:17.149 --> 01:02:21.169
<v Jeff>The beer is not a stinker. It's, is it an exciting style of beer?

01:02:21.929 --> 01:02:29.629
<v Jeff>Probably not. I've had a sip or two, but it's also not bad. So the smokiness in the roast dominates.

01:02:29.629 --> 01:02:30.469
<v Shannon>Very smoky.

01:02:30.469 --> 01:02:35.169
<v Jeff>It even wipes out like where I was expecting to find kind of that slick,

01:02:35.529 --> 01:02:37.549
<v Jeff>chewy oatmeal mouthfeel.

01:02:37.609 --> 01:02:40.349
<v Jeff>It seems like it got burned up in the fire.

01:02:40.589 --> 01:02:40.709
<v Greg>Yeah.

01:02:40.789 --> 01:02:46.049
<v Shannon>No, you're absolutely right. Because that second sip that I just had,

01:02:46.229 --> 01:02:50.869
<v Shannon>it was almost like we were sitting around a campfire.

01:02:50.869 --> 01:02:56.409
<v Shannon>And if I had my mouth open and the wind shifted and blew the smoke right into

01:02:56.409 --> 01:02:59.069
<v Shannon>my face, that's what I'm tasting.

01:02:59.629 --> 01:03:03.429
<v Jeff>Yeah, it's not that far off from like a Roush beer spout, you know.

01:03:03.449 --> 01:03:08.289
<v Greg>Yeah, it has a lot of smoky quality to it, which is when I was having it just

01:03:08.289 --> 01:03:13.989
<v Greg>alone, it was not something that I tasted, but in the microscope.

01:03:14.069 --> 01:03:17.649
<v Jeff>Master powers of suggestion, put it into your brain. Yeah.

01:03:20.310 --> 01:03:26.870
<v Greg>There's more. This one, the 2022 Best in Show at the Maryland Craft Beer Competition.

01:03:28.710 --> 01:03:30.110
<v Shannon>Best in Show?

01:03:30.330 --> 01:03:33.550
<v Greg>Best in Show. Like that poodle that just won.

01:03:33.890 --> 01:03:36.250
<v Shannon>How is a beer best in show?

01:03:37.270 --> 01:03:42.570
<v Jeff>They pick all the winners from all the categories, and then they take the winners

01:03:42.570 --> 01:03:44.810
<v Jeff>and they say which ones are the top three.

01:03:44.990 --> 01:03:48.330
<v Greg>Because what's the beer that's best in this show? You have it right in front of you.

01:03:48.330 --> 01:03:55.810
<v Shannon>Okay. I'm thinking of best in show, like the dog show and the appearance.

01:03:56.210 --> 01:04:01.810
<v Shannon>I'm thinking of appearance when you say best in show, not like what we're doing right now.

01:04:02.030 --> 01:04:05.010
<v Greg>But the dog show is judged on more than just appearance. I'm tired.

01:04:05.310 --> 01:04:13.610
<v Shannon>I haven't, like, I went to bed at what, 1230 and got up at like 410. So I'm on very low sleep.

01:04:15.390 --> 01:04:19.350
<v Greg>Perfect perfect time and attitude in the show.

01:04:21.270 --> 01:04:22.870
<v Jeff>So forgive me.

01:04:22.870 --> 01:04:28.010
<v Shannon>For being a blonde at the moment but you're not i'm not blonde,

01:04:30.050 --> 01:04:32.690
<v Shannon>or am i well.

01:04:32.690 --> 01:04:37.390
<v Greg>Well judging by your eyebrows maybe i really know.

01:04:37.390 --> 01:04:44.410
<v Jeff>There's not that many there all right i think it's time to get on to the ranking,

01:04:45.730 --> 01:04:53.710
<v Jeff>yeah there's some bottom dwellers there's some stars top dwellers there yeah

01:04:53.710 --> 01:05:04.330
<v Jeff>there's the the clear winner there is this which i don't know how they'll line up with those yet but.

01:05:06.664 --> 01:05:15.324
<v Shannon>Hmm there's a lot here to think about it's tough man we need to take a break and then to hit pause we.

01:05:15.324 --> 01:05:17.184
<v Greg>Need to take another four two months break.

01:05:17.184 --> 01:05:23.764
<v Shannon>No i don't i'm just saying like hit can we hit pause on recording for a minute no.

01:05:23.764 --> 01:05:26.824
<v Jeff>That'll fuck shit up and i won't edit it and it just won't work we gotta.

01:05:26.824 --> 01:05:33.084
<v Shannon>Do it we gotta do it live all right we're doing a lot i already have I have mine ranked, so...

01:05:33.084 --> 01:05:36.344
<v Jeff>Then go. Why do you want a positive? You already have.

01:05:36.384 --> 01:05:43.864
<v Shannon>All right, fine. I'll go. So we have this one. We have this one.

01:05:45.704 --> 01:05:48.284
<v Greg>Very descriptive. I'm not...

01:05:48.284 --> 01:05:50.344
<v Shannon>I'm putting them in order.

01:05:50.424 --> 01:05:51.084
<v Jeff>Just start from the first.

01:05:51.084 --> 01:05:52.344
<v Greg>Just start talking. Just write...

01:05:52.344 --> 01:05:54.984
<v Shannon>No, no, no. Don't rush me, you guys.

01:05:55.164 --> 01:05:56.484
<v Greg>I thought you said you had it.

01:05:56.544 --> 01:05:58.344
<v Shannon>Don't freaking rush me.

01:06:02.304 --> 01:06:16.824
<v Shannon>wait oh how is that one not oh hold on i gotta get man you guys are hurting me i will go fine go you.

01:06:16.824 --> 01:06:18.224
<v Jeff>Don't have it you're just trying to.

01:06:18.224 --> 01:06:25.044
<v Shannon>Well that's because i had to page down and do you want to go no go ahead all right.

01:06:28.277 --> 01:06:32.877
<v Jeff>I am going to put, and this may be controversial for the people in the room,

01:06:32.937 --> 01:06:35.977
<v Jeff>I'm going to put this beer drinking right now, the Old Mother in last place.

01:06:36.237 --> 01:06:38.097
<v Shannon>That is kind of controversial, yeah.

01:06:38.517 --> 01:06:43.837
<v Jeff>It brought, I wanted more than just the smoke, and it just brought the smoke.

01:06:44.217 --> 01:06:48.057
<v Jeff>And I didn't hate the second to last place beer as much as everyone else did,

01:06:48.177 --> 01:06:52.217
<v Jeff>the All Is Vanity from Bold Monk, that fooder-aged one.

01:06:52.357 --> 01:06:54.677
<v Jeff>I thought it had some redeeming notes.

01:06:54.857 --> 01:07:01.297
<v Jeff>I liked it better. i overall it was more interesting pour it out no you poured

01:07:01.297 --> 01:07:10.097
<v Jeff>it out it for me overall it was more engaging and interesting than the calisto and then i'm gonna put,

01:07:11.597 --> 01:07:20.197
<v Jeff>the mosaic material in uh third from last place from angry chair um almost would

01:07:20.197 --> 01:07:23.417
<v Jeff>put this one and below the fooder one, but not quite.

01:07:23.877 --> 01:07:30.557
<v Jeff>And now it gets tough because Zool's freaking awesome. Where do I put Spotted Cow amongst the Zools?

01:07:32.737 --> 01:07:36.197
<v Jeff>I think I put Spotted Cow next.

01:07:36.617 --> 01:07:40.637
<v Jeff>It's a hard call. It's a hard call, but the Zools were really yummy.

01:07:40.817 --> 01:07:42.957
<v Jeff>So Spotted Cow in fourth place.

01:07:43.157 --> 01:07:46.277
<v Jeff>Then I'm going to put the rhymes with

01:07:46.277 --> 01:07:49.617
<v Jeff>rhymes like dimes in third place

01:07:49.617 --> 01:07:52.737
<v Jeff>i'm gonna put the 8-bit in second place because

01:07:52.737 --> 01:07:55.817
<v Jeff>the more i drank it the more the passion

01:07:55.817 --> 01:07:58.977
<v Jeff>fruit and then like the peach flavors and the things and the

01:07:58.977 --> 01:08:04.517
<v Jeff>like the highlights were really coming for me and then i'm gonna put the blueberry

01:08:04.517 --> 01:08:10.137
<v Jeff>cobbler in first place because what that beer is ridiculous so do you want to

01:08:10.137 --> 01:08:14.197
<v Jeff>take a picture check do you want to give me your camera so i can take one since

01:08:14.197 --> 01:08:16.797
<v Jeff>they're take it take it all right.

01:08:17.477 --> 01:08:27.117
<v Shannon>Take it do it oh wait a minute i should have do it do it do it all right so.

01:08:31.457 --> 01:08:34.897
<v Jeff>I'm just a little different than.

01:08:34.897 --> 01:08:35.297
<v Shannon>You,

01:08:46.817 --> 01:08:54.217
<v Shannon>so in last place i am going to have to put the um all.

01:08:54.217 --> 01:08:54.857
<v Jeff>Is vanity.

01:08:54.857 --> 01:08:56.537
<v Shannon>The the bold monk,

01:08:59.297 --> 01:09:07.157
<v Shannon>It's the correct answer. To dirt flavored, I don't know. I just couldn't get past that dirt flavor.

01:09:07.597 --> 01:09:11.917
<v Shannon>And I appreciate the dirt flavor, but that one was just, there was nothing else.

01:09:11.997 --> 01:09:14.357
<v Shannon>It was just fungal, dirt.

01:09:15.477 --> 01:09:19.177
<v Shannon>I expected a worm in the bottle.

01:09:23.160 --> 01:09:25.680
<v Shannon>and then uh this.

01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:27.300
<v Greg>Is one beer by mf doom.

01:09:27.300 --> 01:09:30.180
<v Shannon>And and and then next we have the

01:09:30.180 --> 01:09:32.860
<v Shannon>calisto um that we

01:09:32.860 --> 01:09:36.080
<v Shannon>just our last drink there's only

01:09:36.080 --> 01:09:39.080
<v Shannon>one beer left yeah i i wasn't impressed

01:09:39.080 --> 01:09:42.560
<v Shannon>to me it just

01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:46.280
<v Shannon>isn't a stout that i'm i'm used to i'm

01:09:46.280 --> 01:09:52.260
<v Shannon>used to a much more full-bodied stout something that just wows me and it just

01:09:52.260 --> 01:10:00.920
<v Shannon>didn't didn't do that for me um next up then we have the uh yeah angry chair

01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:05.720
<v Shannon>which really surprised me disappointed me because um the mosaic,

01:10:06.940 --> 01:10:18.160
<v Shannon>uh what is it material yeah i don't think it sat well but it had some good competition too so So.

01:10:18.160 --> 01:10:21.220
<v Greg>I don't know. This is Angry Chair by Allison Jane.

01:10:23.340 --> 01:10:28.960
<v Shannon>That's a good one. And then next, sorry, Greg.

01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:37.860
<v Shannon>I mean, I really liked it. It was good, but this Spotted Cow is going to have to be next.

01:10:38.100 --> 01:10:42.260
<v Shannon>I mean, it was good. It was really good.

01:10:42.340 --> 01:10:49.380
<v Shannon>It tasted like an allagash to me, and I love allagash. um and i really thought

01:10:49.380 --> 01:10:53.060
<v Shannon>i was drinking an alagash i mean if you would have just poured that in a glass

01:10:53.060 --> 01:10:57.240
<v Shannon>and handed it to me i would have said oh that's that's an alagash white,

01:10:59.100 --> 01:11:02.220
<v Shannon>i really would have um it's.

01:11:02.220 --> 01:11:03.460
<v Jeff>Missing some of the spices you.

01:11:03.460 --> 01:11:06.420
<v Shannon>Probably you probably if you had them side by side you would have yeah side

01:11:06.420 --> 01:11:08.960
<v Shannon>by side absolutely i would have known but.

01:11:08.960 --> 01:11:09.780
<v Greg>In terms of the.

01:11:09.780 --> 01:11:11.220
<v Shannon>Floral and.

01:11:11.220 --> 01:11:15.060
<v Greg>The extra qualities the yeast you would have been like yeah yeah it's like kind

01:11:15.060 --> 01:11:15.920
<v Greg>of kind of a white ale yeah.

01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:21.460
<v Shannon>Yeah it tastes like a so um then we have the 8-bit,

01:11:23.240 --> 01:11:26.780
<v Shannon>from um yeah zool

01:11:26.780 --> 01:11:34.900
<v Shannon>zool is just gonna i'm sorry zool just hands down top notch they everything

01:11:34.900 --> 01:11:43.980
<v Shannon>that they make so 8-bit comes up next and then rhymes like dimes um And that

01:11:43.980 --> 01:11:45.540
<v Shannon>was really tough because I really,

01:11:45.700 --> 01:11:50.880
<v Shannon>I think that they're really, those two 8-bits and Rhymed Arms, they're really good.

01:11:51.922 --> 01:11:57.242
<v Shannon>They're very different, but they're different in their own way and delicious.

01:11:57.822 --> 01:12:01.602
<v Shannon>Like, I love the way you changed something. Yeah.

01:12:01.882 --> 01:12:04.162
<v Jeff>I gave you more gain since you weren't sitting on the mic.

01:12:04.302 --> 01:12:04.982
<v Shannon>Oh, sorry.

01:12:05.782 --> 01:12:06.902
<v Jeff>No, don't stay on the mic now.

01:12:06.942 --> 01:12:13.442
<v Shannon>I just gave you more gain. No, but yeah, they're very different,

01:12:13.522 --> 01:12:16.282
<v Shannon>but they're both really excellent. on it.

01:12:16.302 --> 01:12:22.342
<v Shannon>I love the tropical smoothness in the rhymes with dimes.

01:12:22.442 --> 01:12:30.822
<v Shannon>And I love the strawberry peach that pops out in the 8-bit. So those are really tied.

01:12:31.082 --> 01:12:35.642
<v Shannon>But if I had to pick, I'd say the 8-bit was third, rhymes with dimes second.

01:12:36.522 --> 01:12:43.342
<v Shannon>First, again, like Jeff, I'm going to have to go with With the blueberry cobbler,

01:12:43.462 --> 01:12:47.222
<v Shannon>because that is just amazing.

01:12:48.162 --> 01:12:58.142
<v Greg>So if you could do me a favor, take a picture of that and then switch the angry

01:12:58.142 --> 01:13:00.742
<v Greg>chair and the stout and take another picture.

01:13:02.462 --> 01:13:03.102
<v Jeff>Spoilers.

01:13:03.602 --> 01:13:04.242
<v Shannon>Spoilers.

01:13:07.282 --> 01:13:10.222
<v Jeff>All right, Greg, give us your commentary, though. Okay.

01:13:11.822 --> 01:13:16.722
<v Greg>So um the what.

01:13:16.722 --> 01:13:20.542
<v Shannon>Was it called the vanity the vanity bold monk bold monk the.

01:13:20.542 --> 01:13:21.802
<v Greg>The bold monk,

01:13:29.542 --> 01:13:33.002
<v Greg>just yeah i

01:13:33.002 --> 01:13:50.362
<v Greg>i don't get i like i on some level i respect the the the hustle of making a beer that shit uh,

01:13:52.042 --> 01:13:58.482
<v Greg>that's just all shit but interesting um it's kind of you might say,

01:14:00.022 --> 01:14:06.822
<v Greg>it's bad to the bone um but it's pretty bad i would not recommend it it certainly

01:14:06.822 --> 01:14:10.902
<v Greg>was a it was a poor it's a poor i'm pouring mine.

01:14:10.902 --> 01:14:13.042
<v Shannon>Right now that's a different beer,

01:14:16.050 --> 01:14:18.530
<v Shannon>He poured the stout. Oh, well, it was a plot.

01:14:18.730 --> 01:14:19.090
<v Greg>All right.

01:14:20.190 --> 01:14:22.890
<v Shannon>The next was the Mosaic.

01:14:23.070 --> 01:14:27.890
<v Greg>Which just, it didn't have the body. Whereas the stout had the body.

01:14:28.290 --> 01:14:30.910
<v Greg>I think in the flight, it tasted too astringent.

01:14:33.630 --> 01:14:37.350
<v Greg>And I don't think it tasted too astringent to me when I was pulling it out of my fridge.

01:14:37.470 --> 01:14:41.890
<v Greg>But in this flight, it definitely tasted too astringent. So the smokiness was overpowering.

01:14:43.810 --> 01:14:49.490
<v Greg>The rest are all great. I do think the New Glarus ends up just in the middle

01:14:49.490 --> 01:14:51.610
<v Greg>of a pack because the other one sort of stood out more.

01:14:52.550 --> 01:14:54.930
<v Greg>But the New Glarus was great.

01:14:55.090 --> 01:14:55.330
<v Jeff>It's delicious.

01:14:55.590 --> 01:14:55.770
<v Shannon>Yeah.

01:14:57.870 --> 01:15:02.790
<v Greg>Like, as a go-to beer, absolutely fantastic.

01:15:03.250 --> 01:15:03.450
<v Shannon>Yeah.

01:15:05.170 --> 01:15:08.090
<v Greg>There is a go-to beer you'd want to have in your fridge all the time.

01:15:08.890 --> 01:15:13.090
<v Jeff>Oh, yeah. And everyone who lives in Wisconsin has it in their fridge.

01:15:13.130 --> 01:15:22.330
<v Greg>And they should. good um yeah then like the 8-bit was was not as bright as the uh rhymes like as the,

01:15:23.150 --> 01:15:29.710
<v Greg>yeah rhymes like dimes um but other than that really really great lots of full

01:15:29.710 --> 01:15:34.530
<v Greg>fullness and stuff like that but yeah the and then the the cobbler was just

01:15:34.530 --> 01:15:42.390
<v Greg>you know one of a kind awesomeness i can't really complain about any of the zool beers um yeah.

01:15:45.190 --> 01:15:48.530
<v Jeff>If only we had the grape, peanut butter, and jelly to try.

01:15:48.530 --> 01:15:49.430
<v Shannon>Too. Oh, my gosh.

01:15:49.590 --> 01:15:51.770
<v Jeff>Because, like, I was as skeptical.

01:15:51.770 --> 01:15:52.510
<v Shannon>It was another one of these.

01:15:52.810 --> 01:15:56.850
<v Jeff>I was as skeptical as anyone about peanut butter, jelly, beer,

01:15:56.930 --> 01:16:00.810
<v Jeff>because I've had some that are not bad, but I've never had ones that are,

01:16:00.850 --> 01:16:03.490
<v Jeff>wow, good. And theirs were good.

01:16:04.010 --> 01:16:08.250
<v Greg>But look, now it's time for the other way we rank, which is a different sort of ranking.

01:16:08.550 --> 01:16:09.030
<v Jeff>Yes.

01:16:11.170 --> 01:16:13.090
<v Jeff>All right. Do you want to go first?

01:16:13.090 --> 01:16:16.610
<v Greg>Yes yeah oh shit okay so

01:16:16.610 --> 01:16:19.530
<v Greg>kill is pretty easy for

01:16:19.530 --> 01:16:24.830
<v Greg>me uh yeah like uh

01:16:24.830 --> 01:16:27.650
<v Greg>good bad and ugly we come maybe we

01:16:27.650 --> 01:16:36.370
<v Greg>call them uh that's an ugly that's ugly in every way in every way um so kill

01:16:36.370 --> 01:16:47.490
<v Greg>that uh mary well the fuck i'm gonna fuck the the cobbler i'm gonna get that cobbler all over my dick.

01:16:49.010 --> 01:16:51.450
<v Jeff>I think the mary is an easy one here.

01:16:51.450 --> 01:17:01.210
<v Greg>A mary spotted cow oh fuck yeah yeah that's just it's yeah you're never necessarily

01:17:01.210 --> 01:17:06.830
<v Greg>gonna get tired of it it's never ever going to overwhelm you. Um, yeah.

01:17:07.390 --> 01:17:12.310
<v Jeff>Yeah. I'm going to marry the spotted cow. I'm going to fuck the cobbler. I'm going to kill.

01:17:16.550 --> 01:17:18.850
<v Jeff>The, uh, that oat stout.

01:17:19.570 --> 01:17:27.270
<v Shannon>Mm-hmm. All right. I'm going to be different. Okay. I'm going to marry the rhymes with dimes.

01:17:29.190 --> 01:17:31.230
<v Jeff>Gotcha. You're allowed to. Yeah.

01:17:32.110 --> 01:17:37.570
<v Shannon>I'm going to fuck, of course, the Betty's blueberry cobbler.

01:17:37.690 --> 01:17:37.990
<v Greg>Mm-hmm.

01:17:38.250 --> 01:17:42.050
<v Jeff>And I'm going to kill. You make it sound so dirty when you say that.

01:17:42.530 --> 01:17:47.010
<v Shannon>I'm doing. You do. and i'm gonna

01:17:47.010 --> 01:17:54.510
<v Shannon>kill the the bald monk yeah it's on yeah sorry monk you're out of here.

01:17:56.910 --> 01:18:01.250
<v Jeff>All right that was fun we're gonna be back in the saddle.

01:18:01.250 --> 01:18:02.490
<v Shannon>Sorry for the long delay.

01:18:02.490 --> 01:18:08.670
<v Jeff>Life gets in the way sometimes and uh we'll kind of move on to the post show so.

01:18:08.670 --> 01:18:09.550
<v Shannon>Yeah catch on.

01:18:09.550 --> 01:18:10.330
<v Jeff>The flip flop there.

01:18:10.330 --> 01:18:13.910
<v Shannon>Yeah on the flippity flappity's we'll try the.

01:18:13.910 --> 01:18:15.490
<v Greg>Spotted cow from the um.

01:18:15.490 --> 01:18:26.170
<v Shannon>Oh yeah the one that you two want to marry yeah i mean i'd marry it too i.

01:18:26.170 --> 01:18:27.210
<v Jeff>Mean it's merry like.

01:18:27.210 --> 01:18:33.650
<v Shannon>Alagash boy is marriable marriable absolutely i just wanted to be different

01:18:33.650 --> 01:18:38.850
<v Shannon>but you know i could drink the The rhymes with dimes are the 8-bit all day, every day.

01:18:38.870 --> 01:18:43.010
<v Jeff>I totally hear you. If every hazy tasted like rhymes like dimes.

01:18:43.130 --> 01:18:45.970
<v Shannon>Well, that's why you marry those. The world would be a better place.

01:18:46.930 --> 01:18:50.850
<v Greg>What's that song, you know, Brandy, you're a fine girl. What a good wife you

01:18:50.850 --> 01:18:52.090
<v Greg>would be. You know, that's...

01:18:53.090 --> 01:18:55.550
<v Shannon>Butter cow. Yeah. Butter cow.

01:18:55.610 --> 01:19:00.330
<v Jeff>Yeah. Me, my wife, my lady by the sea.

