WEBVTT 00:00:15.281 --> 00:00:22.241 Welcome to CBR episode 520, June 14th, 2024. 00:00:23.181 --> 00:00:24.101 I'm Shannon. 00:00:24.421 --> 00:00:25.161 I'm Jeff. 00:00:25.781 --> 00:00:28.621 And I'm... I'm Greg. 00:00:30.941 --> 00:00:32.861 It's a little D-Lite playing this here. 00:00:34.361 --> 00:00:37.001 Hi everybody. Good to see you guys. 00:00:37.601 --> 00:00:40.441 It's been a while. It's been a minute. 00:00:41.401 --> 00:00:46.481 So, yeah, we were traveling, working. and you know it's like friday night and 00:00:46.481 --> 00:00:51.181 like well let's see if greg's available so all right so uh, 00:00:51.921 --> 00:00:57.421 being cbr i guess we are cocktails beer and other revelry is that what you came 00:00:57.421 --> 00:01:02.561 up with okay so tell us about our first cocktail this actually put. 00:01:02.561 --> 00:01:07.141 For the recipe this is this is corpse reviver number two the particular recipe 00:01:07.141 --> 00:01:13.821 i'm using for this one is uh so we did this is a basically I did a double version 00:01:13.821 --> 00:01:16.181 and then split into three. 00:01:16.201 --> 00:01:16.701 Okay. 00:01:16.801 --> 00:01:20.501 So that we have a good amount, but we're not each having a single version. 00:01:22.468 --> 00:01:23.748 Did you say corpse? 00:01:24.148 --> 00:01:27.888 Corpse survivor number two. Yes. This was a pre-prohibition drink they used 00:01:27.888 --> 00:01:31.208 to, this was, this was their version of hair of the dog, right? 00:01:31.308 --> 00:01:31.708 Okay. 00:01:31.808 --> 00:01:36.188 You know, you're, you're, you're really, you're super drunk in the morning, 00:01:36.228 --> 00:01:40.148 you know, they need something to, to wake you back up. This is the corpse survivor. 00:01:40.508 --> 00:01:45.208 Okay. Uh, so it is in this recipe that I'm using three quarters of an ounce 00:01:45.208 --> 00:01:51.108 of London dry gin, which is probably closest to what you use, which was, what was it? 00:01:51.628 --> 00:01:52.208 Jagger bush. 00:01:52.468 --> 00:01:55.528 Jagger bush from pittsburgh distilling three quarters of 00:01:55.528 --> 00:01:58.328 an ounce of orange liqueur we went with uh contrail which i 00:01:58.328 --> 00:02:01.168 think is pretty much awesome in every place you 00:02:01.168 --> 00:02:04.208 get when you use it three quarters of an ounce uh lilac 00:02:04.208 --> 00:02:07.208 or cocky americano and that's what we use cocky 00:02:07.208 --> 00:02:10.748 americano because i don't know where you can get lilac anymore okay uh 00:02:10.748 --> 00:02:15.328 cocky americano is a fortified wine so keep it in the fridge all right uh and 00:02:15.328 --> 00:02:19.748 three quarters of an ounce of lemon juice so it's uh equal parts cocktail and 00:02:19.748 --> 00:02:23.008 then there was a dash of absinthe that was used to sort of coat the glass beforehand 00:02:23.008 --> 00:02:27.988 garnished with a lemon peel corpse survivor number two nice. 00:02:27.988 --> 00:02:30.848 No is there a number one also i. 00:02:30.848 --> 00:02:33.548 Think that the weird thing is it's a lot of these things with the number two 00:02:33.548 --> 00:02:38.388 is the number one is they were just sort of different formulations uh and this is the one that, 00:02:39.648 --> 00:02:44.508 won out i guess you it would you know maybe it was a different base spirit right 00:02:44.508 --> 00:02:52.008 probably probably not bourbon at the time probably um randy uh pre-prohibition right. 00:02:53.208 --> 00:02:56.908 Yeah so uh this is weird reviewing a cocktail but. 00:02:56.908 --> 00:02:58.408 Uh it's. 00:02:58.408 --> 00:03:03.088 A it's a lemony cocktail so it's a hazy hazy yellow cloudy thing there's a lemon 00:03:03.088 --> 00:03:04.508 peel sitting in the glass no. 00:03:04.508 --> 00:03:05.608 Ice because. 00:03:05.608 --> 00:03:07.188 It's double strained i. 00:03:07.188 --> 00:03:08.628 Definitely smell the absence. 00:03:08.628 --> 00:03:12.428 Which is good i think that's what you want you want to smell it and you want 00:03:12.428 --> 00:03:15.288 to like because that's pretty much all you want of it, you don't want it to 00:03:15.288 --> 00:03:17.968 really overwhelm the flavors here. 00:03:20.456 --> 00:03:23.576 I want to get a little spritzer for the absinthe, 00:03:26.296 --> 00:03:31.976 that's a good drink that's a drink that drink's gonna find its way out of the glass really quickly. 00:03:34.356 --> 00:03:39.676 Yeah i mean i think you taste the absinthe in there um i think you might want 00:03:39.676 --> 00:03:44.296 to pull out the khaki americana just have a little sip of that to see what that is is like just to, 00:03:45.336 --> 00:03:52.396 you know get the idea of what that's doing here yeah um but it's adding that 00:03:52.396 --> 00:03:58.736 little a little bit of i think kind of funkiness a little herbaceousness to it too um, 00:04:02.156 --> 00:04:05.036 i mean it's the primary you know it's the thing that's adding 00:04:05.036 --> 00:04:08.296 everything that's not gin and lemon juice and orange 00:04:08.296 --> 00:04:11.456 liqueur so it's it's the thing that's providing most of the flavor besides that 00:04:11.456 --> 00:04:18.356 absence but right i do think it's it's a really good drinker really um easy 00:04:18.356 --> 00:04:22.896 one to it goes down really easy this is not like this is not like a negroni 00:04:22.896 --> 00:04:26.096 where you're gonna sit with it a while you can probably down this pretty quick. 00:04:26.096 --> 00:04:32.816 Yeah definitely um i think this would be really good over ice too. 00:04:32.816 --> 00:04:40.336 Yeah this would work well over ice um this was cool to um shaken and strained um I. 00:04:40.336 --> 00:04:42.596 Guess it's probably normally served in a coupe or something like that. 00:04:42.636 --> 00:04:48.136 Yes, yeah. This would be, yeah, a coupe or maybe a Nicanora or something like that. 00:04:49.576 --> 00:04:54.416 Martini glass would work fine for it. But yeah, we're using these spielglau glasses. 00:04:55.156 --> 00:04:58.736 Spielglau beer tulips. And it still tastes fine. 00:05:02.196 --> 00:05:02.656 Mmm. 00:05:06.176 --> 00:05:12.456 Tart. there's a surprisingly sweet for not having any simple or anything added 00:05:12.456 --> 00:05:15.096 to it you know it has a nice balance to it. 00:05:15.656 --> 00:05:20.876 Yeah I think that I think that might be the americano okay again we haven't 00:05:20.876 --> 00:05:25.756 tried that I haven't even like really tried that alone so I'm curious I know 00:05:25.756 --> 00:05:30.576 it's like one description I heard was it's gross in the best way so I like I 00:05:30.576 --> 00:05:33.436 mean I like gross in good ways that's up. 00:05:33.436 --> 00:05:34.496 My alley for sure. 00:05:43.136 --> 00:05:44.476 That's really good i. 00:05:44.476 --> 00:05:51.396 Was driving on the way here and i the car passed me and had a um took a picture 00:05:51.396 --> 00:05:57.556 make sure i could remember it uh and none of them i mean none of them got the actual, 00:05:58.416 --> 00:06:02.056 uh bumper sticker i was never able to get it but i do remember what it was okay 00:06:02.056 --> 00:06:07.856 because i thought it said it's green bumper sticker and i thought it said tacos are the answer, 00:06:09.256 --> 00:06:13.576 and I said that's a great bumper sticker and I look closer and it said trees 00:06:13.576 --> 00:06:21.236 are the answer and that like now I understand more of what you're saying but I agree with you less. 00:06:25.156 --> 00:06:28.816 All right we have to have some CBR tacos are the answer bumper stickers. 00:06:30.816 --> 00:06:33.856 We need to make shirts tacos are the answer. 00:06:36.816 --> 00:06:42.916 Answer yeah i mean the question doesn't seem doesn't really have to matter it certainly tacos. 00:06:44.896 --> 00:06:46.756 Yeah they answer many things. 00:06:46.756 --> 00:06:48.456 Yeah i mean like they. 00:06:48.456 --> 00:06:49.376 Just make things better. 00:06:49.376 --> 00:06:53.816 Academically it's not going to work very well for you like if you answer that 00:06:53.816 --> 00:07:01.656 on a test but in a lot of situations tacos is a. 00:07:01.656 --> 00:07:03.196 Train leaves new york at 7. 00:07:03.196 --> 00:07:04.176 A.m at 60 miles. 00:07:04.176 --> 00:07:08.776 Per hour greg gets on in cincinnati with a bag full of tacos. 00:07:12.196 --> 00:07:16.356 Well now this is more of a philosophy question it sounds like because there is no, 00:07:20.136 --> 00:07:21.736 there's no calculation needed there, 00:07:27.933 --> 00:07:33.373 so yes you were in seattle did you bring back any fun and beers we. 00:07:33.373 --> 00:07:40.353 Didn't bring back any beer i don't think oh no we did we did it brought back 00:07:40.353 --> 00:07:45.473 uh i got one from holy mountain yeah um i think we have a couple others i didn't 00:07:45.473 --> 00:07:48.353 grab any for tonight but i could go switch one. 00:07:48.353 --> 00:07:52.533 You don't have to you don't have to um we didn't mention we mentioned it on 00:07:52.533 --> 00:07:56.413 our post show but for those of you who may not listen to the post show we did 00:07:56.413 --> 00:08:01.753 it last show we did um from milwaukee uh, 00:08:03.833 --> 00:08:10.653 spotted cow spotted cow and i wanted to test we didn't didn't do it on the main 00:08:10.653 --> 00:08:14.013 show but we did a sort of experiment on the post show that i think was very 00:08:14.013 --> 00:08:18.013 telling right because this was, 00:08:18.553 --> 00:08:24.233 this is something that that i experienced when i was in when i was in milwaukee which was, 00:08:26.473 --> 00:08:29.313 i got three versions of a spotted 00:08:29.313 --> 00:08:33.273 cat one in the bottle directly from the bottle one in the can or if you can 00:08:33.273 --> 00:08:36.813 one you know poured out or i think i may have gotten a draft at one point too 00:08:36.813 --> 00:08:45.653 right but while they were all were good out of the bottle directly out of the 00:08:45.653 --> 00:08:48.193 bottle seemed to me to be the better experience, 00:08:48.493 --> 00:08:51.133 which is weird. 00:08:52.373 --> 00:08:55.893 Right, we've been telling people for almost 20 years not to drink your beer from a bottle. 00:08:55.893 --> 00:08:56.653 Right, right. 00:08:58.743 --> 00:09:04.023 And yet, we tested this, and I think we all came to the same agreement. 00:09:04.323 --> 00:09:04.943 Mm-hmm. 00:09:05.183 --> 00:09:08.903 It was best out of the bottle. Yeah. It was. Yeah. 00:09:10.363 --> 00:09:15.643 Why? We don't know. It was a glitch in the matrix, but it was best. 00:09:15.823 --> 00:09:21.963 Yeah. Obviously, you're not getting nearly as many volatiles around your nose. 00:09:23.523 --> 00:09:29.103 It was maltier, right? It felt more substantial, I guess. 00:09:30.663 --> 00:09:34.663 You didn't get a chance to try it as a can, but the can just kind of ruined 00:09:34.663 --> 00:09:38.883 everything in a way that I can't really describe because I don't have it in 00:09:38.883 --> 00:09:40.243 front of me, so it's hard for me to remember. 00:09:43.423 --> 00:09:51.543 But yeah, so something to add to the mysteries of the universe and perhaps something 00:09:51.543 --> 00:09:54.423 to think about in future experiments. 00:09:55.883 --> 00:09:59.363 There are certain cases where out of the bottle actually works. 00:09:59.843 --> 00:10:09.963 Yeah. I mean, so Spotted Cow, if you are far enough away, is a light lager beer, right? 00:10:10.983 --> 00:10:20.283 And I could imagine that family of Cremales and American Adjunct Lagers and things like that. 00:10:21.763 --> 00:10:22.503 You know. 00:10:22.543 --> 00:10:24.463 They call it a farmhouse, but you know. 00:10:24.463 --> 00:10:28.163 Yeah. Well, but yeah, farmhouse, but it's still... 00:10:30.123 --> 00:10:35.083 I don't know, drinking it blind, it's not Saison-y, it's more Cremale-y, 00:10:35.103 --> 00:10:38.743 you know, it's, you know, on that side of a fence, if there's a fence. 00:10:39.163 --> 00:10:43.603 And I could see that whole class of beers where if you can isolate, 00:10:43.783 --> 00:10:49.623 uh, the maltiness, you know, make that crisp, you know, maltiness kind of come 00:10:49.623 --> 00:10:50.923 through, I think it could help. 00:10:51.023 --> 00:10:57.783 So maybe that's why, you know, I guess, i mean you mentioned how the malt was kind of brighter. 00:10:57.783 --> 00:11:05.043 Yeah it was just a weird yeah not something that that was at all what i expected 00:11:05.043 --> 00:11:11.703 going in but hey you've learned something new so what do we got on tap for the 00:11:11.703 --> 00:11:13.123 net for the beer we're gonna have all. 00:11:13.123 --> 00:11:14.703 Right let's go to. 00:11:15.943 --> 00:11:18.343 Hold on i've got to get in there so i can write down. 00:11:18.343 --> 00:11:23.783 All right grab a bottle opener while you're there or grab the one that's back here that i can't see, 00:11:26.343 --> 00:11:27.283 or the one. 00:11:27.283 --> 00:11:31.023 Order open the bottle with your mind i've. 00:11:31.023 --> 00:11:34.863 Been working on that still not there still not there you. 00:11:34.863 --> 00:11:35.743 Need to do more mess. 00:11:35.743 --> 00:11:38.343 Is that the key. 00:11:38.343 --> 00:11:45.203 Apparently like if you did all the mess then like you get like really strong 00:11:45.203 --> 00:11:50.943 superpowers i don't know how long you live but you'd get strong superpowers everything. 00:11:50.943 --> 00:11:53.223 It's all in your mind they say. 00:11:53.223 --> 00:11:56.223 So that would definitely prove that's true all right the. 00:11:56.223 --> 00:11:59.423 First beer we're going to do is a beer from hill farmstead which we brought 00:11:59.423 --> 00:12:03.983 back from our trip last summer this is the sankt s-a-n-k-t 2019. 00:12:07.463 --> 00:12:11.623 Sankt so the the first thing that comes to mind when i hear of sankt here the 00:12:11.623 --> 00:12:22.003 word sank is what was it Sanko coffee which was the 80s Sanka the 80s instant coffee, 00:12:24.265 --> 00:12:27.365 yeah that the those wonderful you can still. 00:12:27.365 --> 00:12:29.805 Find it apparently i. 00:12:29.805 --> 00:12:36.545 Mean yeah it's sad that instant coffee still exists although i bet there are 00:12:36.545 --> 00:12:38.805 some uses for it you can find like for example, 00:12:39.905 --> 00:12:45.285 in culinary applications let's say you wanted to use it for like a mix it with 00:12:45.285 --> 00:12:51.685 with um with the you know the potato stuff in in a box for kind of a breading 00:12:51.685 --> 00:12:54.305 yeah on fish or something I'm like, that might work. 00:12:54.465 --> 00:12:54.925 Yeah. 00:12:58.685 --> 00:12:59.785 But let's see. 00:12:59.925 --> 00:13:00.405 Saint. 00:13:03.085 --> 00:13:04.045 The 2019. 00:13:04.925 --> 00:13:05.405 2019. 00:13:07.505 --> 00:13:12.605 Now, are we rating the cocktails, too? Yeah. We are. We are. We're going to rank. 00:13:13.825 --> 00:13:17.545 We are. See, here's what I think. Okay. 00:13:19.425 --> 00:13:28.525 You know, when we started this show, part of the whole idea was to support the beer industry, 00:13:29.265 --> 00:13:32.745 support the craft beer industry, and make it so that everywhere you go, 00:13:33.005 --> 00:13:35.685 like our goal was that everywhere you go, you'd find craft beer. 00:13:37.522 --> 00:13:46.642 mission accomplished mission accomplished i mean that yeah like that so what's left, 00:13:47.422 --> 00:13:54.202 what's left for us to say now that everywhere i go i'm overwhelmed by the amount of craft beers. 00:13:54.202 --> 00:14:00.642 I mean we could react and be like you know lager beer radio and just. 00:14:00.642 --> 00:14:03.682 Only do lagers but it so i feel 00:14:03.682 --> 00:14:06.782 like let's revel in our success 00:14:06.782 --> 00:14:12.742 such as it is i mean i can't call it our success but our dreams success right 00:14:12.742 --> 00:14:20.662 our goal was fulfilled what how much we had to do with it uh i will say this 00:14:20.662 --> 00:14:26.342 much the amount we had to do with it would have been replaced by somebody else had we not 00:14:26.422 --> 00:14:29.542 done it so it's not oh it totally it was. 00:14:29.542 --> 00:14:30.982 Replaced and done better by. 00:14:30.982 --> 00:14:36.742 Lots of people so but you know we can revel in the fact that that happened which 00:14:36.742 --> 00:14:42.862 is great and also still do something about beer but not have to be like as i 00:14:42.862 --> 00:14:49.902 don't know just as tied to the industry and as tied to beer itself yeah. 00:14:49.902 --> 00:14:56.282 I mean i don't i know that like we i have a habit of wanting to keep the show fairly straight. 00:14:57.762 --> 00:15:02.422 But when you say like being tied to the industry, like I don't pay attention 00:15:02.422 --> 00:15:06.542 to anything like we used to like, you know, beer news and all that other crap. 00:15:06.662 --> 00:15:09.782 So, and you're the one who suggested going to CBR. 00:15:10.102 --> 00:15:10.582 Yeah. 00:15:10.662 --> 00:15:19.842 So instead of just craft beer radio, and I think it's a fine chronic establishment and reefer. 00:15:22.602 --> 00:15:24.462 so the one i see rebranding. 00:15:24.462 --> 00:15:26.282 Next week we'll be back as chronic blunts and reefer. 00:15:28.002 --> 00:15:33.002 Well i guess that fits in other revelries right um the one i see on their website 00:15:33.002 --> 00:15:41.582 is uh 2021 so i don't see the 2019 version but they talk about line barrel aged amber ale, 00:15:43.856 --> 00:15:44.616 Six percent. 00:15:48.876 --> 00:15:49.616 Yeah. 00:15:49.736 --> 00:15:56.156 Yeah. Let's see. Place in Burroughs, autumn of 2019, chose to condition in Wine 00:15:56.156 --> 00:16:02.676 Burroughs. Previously had been home to Flora, Dorothy, and Art, amongst others. 00:16:03.276 --> 00:16:11.516 After 15 months in the wood, uniquely expressive version of Sankt, 00:16:11.516 --> 00:16:18.116 hands emerged. converged hmm and saint hans is that is that what this is okay then i have. 00:16:18.116 --> 00:16:19.456 Then i have saint hans. 00:16:19.456 --> 00:16:23.876 I mean this just says sunk on the front though oh but on the back it says saint 00:16:23.876 --> 00:16:32.056 hans and then uh maybe that's a blend i don't know two years in the bottle yes. 00:16:32.056 --> 00:16:33.196 Saint hans is the blend. 00:16:36.316 --> 00:16:41.896 Maybe share consider and enjoy so yes let's get on to the we already shared it let's consider it so. 00:16:41.896 --> 00:16:46.516 Weirdly smells more alcohol-y to me than the cocktail did. 00:16:47.276 --> 00:16:57.776 It's an amber color it's fairly clear like a light orangey tea kind of color woody, 00:17:02.116 --> 00:17:06.116 there's a little bit of funk to it, 00:17:08.356 --> 00:17:11.496 yeah like a wine oakiness is in there as well. 00:17:14.336 --> 00:17:14.816 There's a wheat. 00:17:14.816 --> 00:17:17.756 That's what I'm getting. I expect it to be sour based on how it smells. 00:17:17.956 --> 00:17:19.076 There's a rustic, almost like 00:17:19.076 --> 00:17:21.876 a buckwheat aroma on it, but I'm not saying buckwheat's an ingredient. 00:17:29.502 --> 00:17:31.362 Not as sour as I expected it to be. 00:17:31.462 --> 00:17:37.262 It has a mouthfeel like lemonade, where it's kind of tangy. 00:17:37.382 --> 00:17:41.062 It's almost like an Arnold Palmer, where it's lemonade and tea, isn't it? 00:17:41.082 --> 00:17:41.582 Yes. 00:17:42.282 --> 00:17:48.442 That's an interesting call. The closest style-wise that immediately comes to mind is Albrun. 00:17:52.062 --> 00:17:57.582 But it's not. And Albrun doesn't have the deepness to it. It does have that 00:17:57.582 --> 00:17:58.762 kind of lemonade-y thing. 00:17:58.962 --> 00:18:04.942 Yeah. There's not so much lemonade from, for me, lemonade's not like the straight 00:18:04.942 --> 00:18:07.822 up flavor, but it's like that feel of it. 00:18:07.962 --> 00:18:08.442 Effervescence. 00:18:08.442 --> 00:18:13.522 And then there is kind of a tea flavor. And the tartness from the lemon. 00:18:15.162 --> 00:18:19.262 Yeah. I think that in El Brown, there's more of a earthy mushroomy kind of thing 00:18:19.262 --> 00:18:22.322 going on. If, if, if, if not just pure woodiness. 00:18:23.942 --> 00:18:28.162 The culture plays a bigger part in an El Brown, right? We get a little more 00:18:28.162 --> 00:18:29.842 of that acetobacter and more funk. 00:18:30.002 --> 00:18:33.722 This one has a light amount of funk to it, but it's pretty restrained. 00:18:35.722 --> 00:18:41.762 Yeah. You can tell the sour is not like a pure lactic sour, like an easy sour. 00:18:42.142 --> 00:18:45.182 But it's also not a particularly complex one either. 00:18:45.962 --> 00:18:50.202 No. The barrels have had like 20 things in it. So I'm sure there's a culture 00:18:50.202 --> 00:18:51.862 in the barrels that's contributing to it. 00:18:51.982 --> 00:18:52.262 Mm-hmm. 00:18:54.762 --> 00:18:56.982 This is really nice. I like this a lot. 00:18:56.982 --> 00:18:57.962 Lot do you oh yeah. 00:18:57.962 --> 00:19:03.302 I think i i don't think it's bad i i do think it's a nice drinker but i also 00:19:03.302 --> 00:19:07.722 think it's i don't know i was expecting a little bit more i guess i was i was 00:19:07.722 --> 00:19:09.462 looking for a little bit more complexity that's. 00:19:09.462 --> 00:19:12.702 The first thing i wrote down in my notes it's not very complex, 00:19:14.862 --> 00:19:22.622 um i like it but it's not one that jumps out and says most of the hill farmstead I. 00:19:22.622 --> 00:19:23.162 Mean. 00:19:23.162 --> 00:19:28.402 I agree. This one's not one we're going to wrap our hands around the glass and 00:19:28.402 --> 00:19:34.922 revel for 20 minutes, but I do enjoy it. I think this would go great with a meal. 00:19:35.142 --> 00:19:37.582 With the mention of tea, I'm almost thinking kombucha. 00:19:41.365 --> 00:19:42.945 It kind of has a little bit of that. 00:19:43.185 --> 00:19:47.385 Yeah. I'm trying to, like, my homemade kombucha is way more tangy than the store-bought stuff. 00:19:47.565 --> 00:19:51.025 So I'm trying to think of, like, what store-bought stuff tastes like. 00:19:51.145 --> 00:19:53.305 But I think you're on to something there. 00:19:53.945 --> 00:20:01.365 See, I just taste too much like tea. Like a sweet tea. 00:20:01.465 --> 00:20:05.125 To me. Keep in mind, this is, we're in 2024, this is 2019. 00:20:05.125 --> 00:20:11.045 19 it went into the barrels in 2019 spent 18 months in a barrel and then it 00:20:11.045 --> 00:20:18.465 spent two years in the bottle yeah two years in the bottle okay so it was probably 00:20:18.465 --> 00:20:21.145 just available for sale last summer so it's only. 00:20:21.145 --> 00:20:26.825 A year so so then this might very well be what they had here on on their sank 00:20:26.825 --> 00:20:30.525 page because it said it was only released once but the blend does look like 00:20:30.525 --> 00:20:33.205 2019 right the oops Oops. 00:20:33.265 --> 00:20:33.945 Sorry. 00:20:36.105 --> 00:20:39.125 Singular blend was 2019. So yeah. Yeah. 00:20:39.425 --> 00:20:44.925 So this is, so if you go to Hill Farmstead and look for Sankt right now, 00:20:45.085 --> 00:20:51.525 as of June 14th, this is what you'll see. 00:20:55.545 --> 00:21:01.345 And this was, but this was the release on 21st. Or I'm sorry, that 2021. 00:21:02.965 --> 00:21:14.585 Oh, well, I don't know. So this had three years to, to become more complex in the bottle. 00:21:14.625 --> 00:21:18.245 And really, if it did, then what was it in the beginning? 00:21:18.345 --> 00:21:18.705 Mm-hmm . 00:21:22.552 --> 00:21:28.092 I just save your money. Like there are other Hill farm sets that are, that are better. 00:21:30.852 --> 00:21:34.512 And I can't imagine this was like a $4 bottle. 00:21:35.612 --> 00:21:38.872 No, probably not. I don't think anything there was. No, 00:21:41.292 --> 00:21:44.312 I enjoy it. Um, it is a light one. 00:21:45.232 --> 00:21:48.932 If I remembered how much I paid for it, I might have an opinion of, 00:21:49.012 --> 00:21:55.512 well, your money might be better spent in something more interesting but that 00:21:55.512 --> 00:21:59.792 ship has sailed and it's just a beer in the fridge and i opened it and. 00:21:59.792 --> 00:22:00.912 It's true really. 00:22:00.912 --> 00:22:03.232 Enjoying it so yeah. 00:22:03.232 --> 00:22:07.392 You definitely are enjoying it way more than shanda tonight because yeah. 00:22:07.392 --> 00:22:09.512 I'm actually giving them the rest of mine. 00:22:09.512 --> 00:22:12.752 I should say shandon and me although i 00:22:12.752 --> 00:22:15.732 shouldn't even say that because i watched a 00:22:15.732 --> 00:22:21.852 good good video about how all this grammatical stuff that we go on is such like 00:22:21.852 --> 00:22:33.972 it's a very cultural thing but linguists find it silly all. 00:22:33.972 --> 00:22:35.252 Right let's go to this one. 00:22:35.252 --> 00:22:39.212 The whole point of languages is that they change the. 00:22:39.212 --> 00:22:45.832 Two hunchers and it's oh it's a sour yeah i guess we can do this your hop farm that you brought the. 00:22:45.832 --> 00:22:46.372 Save room. 00:22:46.372 --> 00:22:50.872 Grapefruit brulee will be the next beer these. 00:22:50.872 --> 00:22:56.572 Are two hop farms i bought today i uh have not tried either of them i think 00:22:56.572 --> 00:23:00.812 we're saving one for another show so this one is i'm. 00:23:00.812 --> 00:23:02.472 Sorry it's a hop farm. 00:23:02.472 --> 00:23:08.132 Hop farm it is save room grapefruit brulee. 00:23:15.654 --> 00:23:17.414 So they have another save room 00:23:17.414 --> 00:23:21.994 that was a peach cobbler. So it looks like this is their dessert beer. 00:23:24.074 --> 00:23:27.914 Yeah, I believe the label at the bottom says Dessert Sour Series. 00:23:37.094 --> 00:23:41.994 Pours a hazy amber, same color as the last one. So it looks like an orange-ish 00:23:41.994 --> 00:23:43.974 tea kind of color. It's hazy. 00:23:43.974 --> 00:23:49.074 So I will say the undisputed champions of the dessert beer in the Pittsburgh 00:23:49.074 --> 00:23:53.894 area have to be Hitchhiker. 00:23:54.314 --> 00:23:59.014 They are pretty much every one they make is pretty fantastic. 00:23:59.674 --> 00:24:01.594 The Jelly Doughnut can be pretty good. 00:24:01.734 --> 00:24:03.234 Yeah, it can. 00:24:03.394 --> 00:24:06.574 We had some Creamsicle. It was pretty good. 00:24:06.834 --> 00:24:08.274 Yeah, the Orange Creamsicle. 00:24:08.274 --> 00:24:14.254 I mean there's so one of the ones that stand out is one of shannon's like first craft beers actually, 00:24:14.814 --> 00:24:18.414 was when platform beer company is not even around anymore but they were out 00:24:18.414 --> 00:24:22.394 in cleveland they paired up with prantles bakery here in pittsburgh and did 00:24:22.394 --> 00:24:26.654 an almond tort beer yeah and uh which. 00:24:26.654 --> 00:24:30.814 Was you know so there was a big deal made because there was some website that 00:24:30.814 --> 00:24:32.694 called it the best cake in america. 00:24:32.694 --> 00:24:39.314 Yeah yeah some so the prantles some the prantles yeah was was riding high so 00:24:39.314 --> 00:24:43.194 they made a beer with it and it was pretty good beer but i don't know no. 00:24:43.194 --> 00:24:45.154 It was got me turned on to. 00:24:45.154 --> 00:24:47.374 Figured you would chime in and that. 00:24:47.374 --> 00:24:53.474 Was definitely what got me turned into or turned on to craft beer because oh. 00:24:53.474 --> 00:24:54.534 Beer can be this. 00:24:54.534 --> 00:25:01.134 Yeah yeah i was very much a wine drinker and And, you know, in my past life, 00:25:01.194 --> 00:25:07.554 I drank beer, but it was the Goldtron, you know, things like that. 00:25:07.634 --> 00:25:09.614 Thanks to Blue Mountains on the label, you know. 00:25:09.934 --> 00:25:12.594 Yeah. The coldest beer there is. 00:25:13.114 --> 00:25:13.534 Yeah. 00:25:16.383 --> 00:25:25.203 Now, when it comes to the beer-flavored beers, I prefer Hop Farm to Hitchhiker, 00:25:25.323 --> 00:25:27.203 and I think it's because I really prefer the yeast. 00:25:28.883 --> 00:25:34.143 But I'm not, I haven't been as convinced by the dessert series from Hop Farm, so let's see. 00:25:35.303 --> 00:25:38.183 I'm curious what Grapefruit Brulee is, right? 00:25:38.243 --> 00:25:43.823 It sounds like it's going to be kind of a more bitter plus sweet tied together kind of thing. 00:25:44.143 --> 00:25:47.963 Well, you think? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, obviously, it's playing off a creme brulee, right? 00:25:48.143 --> 00:25:48.463 Yeah. 00:25:49.203 --> 00:25:51.603 But with grapefruit. Can I say they can't? 00:25:51.603 --> 00:25:52.303 Yeah, for sure. 00:25:55.143 --> 00:26:03.043 I'm not... On the nose, I'm not getting grapefruit. Yeah, I agree. I'm not getting a lot. 00:26:03.103 --> 00:26:07.043 It's kind of just an amber, kind of toasty malt aroma is the main aroma. 00:26:07.403 --> 00:26:08.363 Yeah, toasty. 00:26:08.423 --> 00:26:14.603 This is 8%. They say conditioned on grapefruit along with caramel and Madagascar vanilla. 00:26:15.103 --> 00:26:16.023 Oh, that's why. 00:26:17.883 --> 00:26:21.443 All right. Moving on to the flavor. Yeah, don't waste your time on the aroma. 00:26:21.483 --> 00:26:23.483 You're not going to find anything. But the flavor delivers something. 00:26:23.923 --> 00:26:29.763 You do get the grapefruit. You do get kind of like a... 00:26:30.743 --> 00:26:32.223 Oh, I'm tasting the caramel. 00:26:32.863 --> 00:26:36.383 Yeah, to me, it doesn't really come across like brulee. It comes across more 00:26:36.383 --> 00:26:40.103 like a con leche cake or something like that. 00:26:40.243 --> 00:26:43.723 You know, like one of those Mexican cakes with the milk and, 00:26:43.763 --> 00:26:45.763 you know, it's kind of soggy and i. 00:26:45.763 --> 00:26:48.283 Don't know that i've ever had one. 00:26:48.283 --> 00:26:50.323 Oh they're very good but um, 00:26:53.843 --> 00:26:56.563 i'm getting out here this is weird for me 00:26:56.563 --> 00:27:00.563 i feel like i'm i feel like i need something to cleanse my palate because i'm 00:27:00.563 --> 00:27:06.223 getting just kind of i'm getting the grapefruit i feel that there's the vanilla 00:27:06.223 --> 00:27:13.543 and caramel at the edge but but i'm just not getting it at all so i'm gonna 00:27:13.543 --> 00:27:16.523 have a a little of the cocky Americano, hoping that will cleanse my palate. 00:27:16.523 --> 00:27:21.023 Okay, I was going to run into some saltines, but if you want to go with a liqueur 00:27:21.023 --> 00:27:24.463 instead, sounds like a great way to cleanse the palate. 00:27:26.003 --> 00:27:31.683 I mean, I think that the sourness that we're getting here is similar to what 00:27:31.683 --> 00:27:34.103 we had last time, and so it's confusing me a bit. 00:27:35.631 --> 00:27:37.291 Would anybody else like a sip of this? 00:27:37.371 --> 00:27:37.991 I would, yes. 00:27:41.111 --> 00:27:43.031 My Glenclaren's right there behind the Applejack. 00:27:43.511 --> 00:27:45.271 Actually, that one's mine, but it's okay. 00:27:46.231 --> 00:27:46.971 I don't know. 00:27:47.131 --> 00:27:47.771 I don't know. 00:27:47.811 --> 00:27:52.891 I think mine got used to poor lemon juice. I don't know. Yeah. 00:27:53.191 --> 00:27:54.691 It's holding lemon juice right now. 00:27:54.951 --> 00:27:55.491 Oh, no. 00:27:57.231 --> 00:28:03.331 It's all right. All right. Well, Greg is pouring us some of the fortified wine, 00:28:03.411 --> 00:28:05.711 Americano. I don't even know what it's called. 00:28:07.931 --> 00:28:14.191 Americano. What's going on in the world today? 00:28:16.751 --> 00:28:21.011 I saw the Supreme Court said that bump stocks are illegal, so that's fun. Yay. 00:28:22.271 --> 00:28:28.991 Alex Jones is bankruptcy. 00:28:29.911 --> 00:28:30.991 Come back on mic. 00:28:30.991 --> 00:28:34.091 Yeah, I don't think it's going to pick up what you're saying, 00:28:34.191 --> 00:28:35.811 Greg, until you get back here. 00:28:38.171 --> 00:28:42.351 Yeah, what's Alex Jones up to? I saw his face was on the title screen for last 00:28:42.351 --> 00:28:43.631 week tonight, but I didn't look into it. 00:28:43.771 --> 00:28:47.991 Well, his bankruptcy went from, for his personal bankruptcy, 00:28:48.291 --> 00:28:50.511 he owes like a billion plus dollars. 00:28:51.611 --> 00:28:56.271 His personal bankruptcy, which he went into to try to hold up on paying, 00:28:56.431 --> 00:29:00.431 has gone from Chapter 11, which is restructuring, to Chapter 7, which is liquidation. 00:29:01.891 --> 00:29:09.491 his chapter 11 for free speech systems, which is an eight, which is info wars 00:29:09.491 --> 00:29:12.171 has today been dismissed, 00:29:12.971 --> 00:29:16.971 which means that they can't stop creditors from just trying to take it apart. 00:29:17.351 --> 00:29:21.731 So, but there's still a bunch of legal shenanigans to go. It's not like things 00:29:21.731 --> 00:29:24.231 have stopped. So cookie Americano. 00:29:26.551 --> 00:29:29.891 Funky or gross in a weird way or a good way or anything. It's just, uh. 00:29:33.138 --> 00:29:33.938 Oh, that's different. 00:29:37.298 --> 00:29:40.318 There's like a little banana apple thing. 00:29:42.638 --> 00:29:44.538 I'm getting some kind of, 00:29:46.938 --> 00:29:48.758 like a... It's not an almond. 00:29:49.718 --> 00:29:55.918 What's that thing that's like a tangerine, but like not... It starts with a C, maybe. 00:29:56.638 --> 00:29:57.118 Clementine? 00:29:57.438 --> 00:29:59.158 No, I guess not. 00:29:59.298 --> 00:30:00.358 I mean, I'm getting more of... 00:30:00.358 --> 00:30:02.458 There's some sort of a peanut, and I can't. 00:30:03.138 --> 00:30:08.678 I'm getting something along the side, something, some, some herb that's along 00:30:08.678 --> 00:30:11.338 the lines of anise or something like that. 00:30:12.978 --> 00:30:15.178 It's not anise, I don't think. I think it's something different. 00:30:16.298 --> 00:30:19.298 Yeah, I don't think it's, I definitely don't think it's anise. 00:30:20.258 --> 00:30:26.098 Yeah, some rooty thing, right? Some like, not sassafras, but maybe kind of related. 00:30:29.898 --> 00:30:34.658 It's not too different. It's surprisingly similar to the flavors I was getting 00:30:34.658 --> 00:30:36.218 in the chartreuse when we tried that earlier. 00:30:37.058 --> 00:30:40.358 Really? Because the chartreuse has like 200 ingredients. 00:30:40.378 --> 00:30:44.618