WEBVTT 00:00:14.271 --> 00:00:22.411 Welcome to CBR episode 523 on September 28th, 2024. I'm Shannon. 00:00:22.611 --> 00:00:23.491 I'm Jack. 00:00:23.651 --> 00:00:24.171 I'm Greg. 00:00:25.611 --> 00:00:28.711 And you are listening to CBR. 00:00:32.431 --> 00:00:43.791 Awesome. All right, tonight, Shannon and I just got back from a 17-day adventure. 00:00:43.791 --> 00:00:46.031 around the Finger Lakes, which we'll be talking about. 00:00:46.311 --> 00:00:50.451 And we're doing beers from one of the breweries, one of our favorite breweries 00:00:50.451 --> 00:00:51.791 on the trip. This is Brewery Arden. 00:00:51.931 --> 00:00:55.811 They're in Geneva, New York, near Seneca Lake. 00:00:56.811 --> 00:01:03.071 And let's start with the Oktoberfest, since tomorrow is the last day of Oktoberfest. 00:01:03.351 --> 00:01:03.831 Okay. 00:01:07.551 --> 00:01:11.851 I don't have much to say, because you guys had all the fun. 00:01:11.851 --> 00:01:17.611 So, I mean, what's going to be fun is that next time, unless we do a show before 00:01:17.611 --> 00:01:21.951 then, but I probably won't, next time I'll have all the stories because I'm 00:01:21.951 --> 00:01:23.171 going to be in South Korea in two weeks. 00:01:23.331 --> 00:01:23.931 Oh, shit. 00:01:23.991 --> 00:01:24.351 So. 00:01:27.071 --> 00:01:30.791 Didn't realize. Yeah. That's where you're going. Nice. 00:01:32.911 --> 00:01:33.911 I'm looking for. 00:01:35.031 --> 00:01:40.571 Don't accidentally walk to North Korea. I think that's a main rule, right? 00:01:40.971 --> 00:01:48.831 Yeah. I don't think it's easy to accidentally walk there. 00:01:49.071 --> 00:01:57.751 I think that there is some difficulty if you try to do that process. 00:01:57.891 --> 00:02:03.731 So this is, according to their website, an Oktoberfest Martzen 6.1%. 00:02:03.731 --> 00:02:05.431 That's pretty high for a Martzen. 00:02:07.471 --> 00:02:09.731 I mean, it's on the higher side. 00:02:09.791 --> 00:02:10.551 It's on the higher side, yeah. 00:02:12.351 --> 00:02:18.431 And they don't have much else in other information other than suggested food pairing. 00:02:18.611 --> 00:02:19.051 Okay. 00:02:19.151 --> 00:02:19.531 Okay. 00:02:19.811 --> 00:02:20.371 What's that? 00:02:20.791 --> 00:02:25.891 Uh, this is funny based on what, um, Jeff did when, when I got here, 00:02:26.031 --> 00:02:30.631 uh, because I gave Jeff some, uh, I gave you guys some, some hot peppers that 00:02:30.631 --> 00:02:34.571 I got from, from the market and Jeff ate one and it was very, very hot. 00:02:34.731 --> 00:02:38.071 The suggested food pairing is blistered shishito peppers. Yeah. 00:02:38.591 --> 00:02:44.251 Okay. I'm surprised they didn't mail it in with like bratwurst and sauerkraut and spetzel. 00:02:45.491 --> 00:02:49.711 Interestingly, they say toasted garlic, gochujang, sesame, herbs. 00:02:49.851 --> 00:02:54.251 I mean, that's a decent plate already. Yeah, that sounds good. 00:02:54.871 --> 00:02:57.531 Yeah, so Brewery Ardenne, we went there for brunch. 00:02:57.891 --> 00:02:58.291 Yes. 00:02:58.711 --> 00:03:03.271 On a Sunday. Well, let's smell the beer, let's taste the beer, 00:03:03.371 --> 00:03:04.831 and then we'll talk about Brewery Ardenne. 00:03:05.531 --> 00:03:09.811 Lots of very bready notes up front biscutti almost yep, 00:03:14.621 --> 00:03:19.801 The color is, almost seems darker in yours, but maybe that's just the light. 00:03:19.861 --> 00:03:20.721 I think it's the lighting. 00:03:20.861 --> 00:03:21.041 Yeah. 00:03:21.141 --> 00:03:22.921 But it does look a little amber. 00:03:26.901 --> 00:03:30.761 Yeah, the aroma for me just like hits the spot. It's that very bready, 00:03:30.821 --> 00:03:33.681 biscuity kind of thing. It's like right where I want it to be. 00:03:33.741 --> 00:03:36.721 Not too sweet. You can smell a little bit of the hops. They're just to bitter 00:03:36.721 --> 00:03:41.321 it down just so it doesn't over sweet, but it smells great. 00:03:41.321 --> 00:03:44.621 Right moving on 00:03:44.621 --> 00:03:47.601 to the flavor kind of i'm getting like two different 00:03:47.601 --> 00:03:51.161 tracks on the flavor i'm getting one that's really like toffee 00:03:51.161 --> 00:03:54.021 and biscuity and then one that's kind of 00:03:54.021 --> 00:04:02.381 hoppy a bit and a bit like um german hops like um you know like um hollow tower 00:04:02.381 --> 00:04:06.381 or something like that so it's kind of a spicy hop flavor kind of like they're 00:04:06.381 --> 00:04:10.181 kind of running like side by side instead of instead Instead of being kind of 00:04:10.181 --> 00:04:13.221 bundled together, I feel them like in two different tracks. 00:04:14.521 --> 00:04:16.521 Kind of melds nicely for me. 00:04:19.361 --> 00:04:24.061 I'm trying to put my tongue where yours is and get that there. 00:04:25.321 --> 00:04:32.321 It does have a really nice, stronger malt than normal on Martins, 00:04:32.361 --> 00:04:34.541 which I like. I like the more malty Martins. 00:04:34.841 --> 00:04:35.141 Yeah. 00:04:35.661 --> 00:04:41.001 Um, I think the hops are, are, are pretty, are really pretty mild. 00:04:41.301 --> 00:04:41.861 Mm-hmm. 00:04:47.601 --> 00:04:48.841 You're saying two tracks. 00:04:49.481 --> 00:04:55.241 Uh, yeah, I'm just taste like first I kind of tasted the toffee caramel and 00:04:55.241 --> 00:05:01.901 that kind of like fades and then the other one gets turned up and they, but like, I don't know. 00:05:01.941 --> 00:05:05.581 I just, that's the metaphor I chose. It just seems like they kind of run side by side. 00:05:05.741 --> 00:05:08.961 And then you get the kind of the spicy German hops, you get a little bit of 00:05:08.961 --> 00:05:13.621 like a Pilsner kind of malt flavor in there too, which is kind of adjacent to 00:05:13.621 --> 00:05:16.461 the biscuity caramel malt to me. 00:05:16.781 --> 00:05:17.201 Interesting. 00:05:17.441 --> 00:05:21.701 No, I agree with the Pilsner maltiness. Yes. 00:05:23.853 --> 00:05:26.633 Yeah, I mean, it's not like a Maris Otter where you, you know, 00:05:26.633 --> 00:05:28.733 feel that caramel directly in the mouth. 00:05:28.793 --> 00:05:36.573 But it is, I think it's really good. I like the, I like the end on it. 00:05:36.653 --> 00:05:40.553 I like that it stays sort of biscuit, kind of buttery biscuity in some sense. 00:05:41.153 --> 00:05:44.093 Almost, I think of a biscotti. 00:05:46.293 --> 00:05:47.433 Even better. Yeah. 00:05:47.633 --> 00:05:48.033 Yeah. 00:05:48.173 --> 00:05:49.753 Biscotti because it has that little extra sweetness. 00:05:49.953 --> 00:05:50.993 Mm-hmm. Yeah. 00:05:50.993 --> 00:05:56.533 Yeah, so this place is in this kind of chalet kind of building that, 00:05:56.593 --> 00:05:59.673 it's an old building that they were able to purchase. 00:05:59.773 --> 00:06:02.673 I can't remember what the Parks Department owned it at one point. 00:06:02.873 --> 00:06:03.113 Yeah. 00:06:04.293 --> 00:06:07.613 But it's this really attractive. It's a great history. You probably have their 00:06:07.613 --> 00:06:10.233 website up. You can probably see their building. It's a very attractive building. 00:06:10.813 --> 00:06:13.853 Gorgeous. Walk in. We thought we were going to have to eat outside. 00:06:13.913 --> 00:06:16.673 It was a little chilly that day, but they let Cooper with us. 00:06:16.753 --> 00:06:22.833 So they let us eat inside. side the owner actually waited our table um yeah. 00:06:22.833 --> 00:06:25.193 It's beautiful isn't it the. 00:06:25.193 --> 00:06:32.073 Owner waited our table he was um what was his name cory i think um really really 00:06:32.073 --> 00:06:35.413 nice guy nice and like i didn't even tell him i did the podcast do. 00:06:35.413 --> 00:06:39.013 You tip the owner oh yeah i guess yeah i. 00:06:39.013 --> 00:06:43.753 Mean i mean oh my god we had the best hospitality he knew that we had been to 00:06:43.753 --> 00:06:48.413 hundreds of breweries but he didn't know that i I was a famous podcaster, right? 00:06:50.093 --> 00:06:50.613 Famous. 00:06:50.633 --> 00:06:51.773 Yeah, exactly. 00:06:52.573 --> 00:06:58.353 Super hospitable, showed us around the brewery. Very, very, very small brewery. 00:06:58.453 --> 00:07:01.133 Yeah, it was. Don't have that many fermenters. 00:07:01.253 --> 00:07:07.233 So clean, too. Did you notice that? Yeah. I mean, they all are, usually, yeah. 00:07:07.313 --> 00:07:13.833 But it just, it was very neat, very tidy, very clean. Yeah. 00:07:14.744 --> 00:07:19.444 Sparkly um so and then we i we were there for a while i basically got to taste 00:07:19.444 --> 00:07:25.324 everything they had and while some of them weren't my style i mean they were 00:07:25.324 --> 00:07:27.264 still well executed you know um, 00:07:28.064 --> 00:07:32.304 oh their fall saison which i think we might have tonight yeah 00:07:32.304 --> 00:07:35.044 that we'll see we'll see if that see how that comes across 00:07:35.044 --> 00:07:38.564 that was one of my lesser favorites actually of the entire day um 00:07:38.564 --> 00:07:41.724 the food then they have like belgian style 00:07:41.724 --> 00:07:45.084 brunch stuff so i got shannon got belgian waffles 00:07:45.084 --> 00:07:47.984 yeah and i got something 00:07:47.984 --> 00:07:50.704 good choice i remember yeah i got something that was more of 00:07:50.704 --> 00:07:53.864 like this european tart thing because i wanted to be more like experimental 00:07:53.864 --> 00:07:58.324 i chose wrongly i should have got the waffles the waffles and it was funny when 00:07:58.324 --> 00:08:01.304 the waffles came there were these big square waffles they weren't like liege 00:08:01.304 --> 00:08:08.784 waffles and for a second she was like oh and then she tasted them oh my gosh oh yeah. 00:08:08.784 --> 00:08:13.104 I was like wait what's going on. 00:08:13.104 --> 00:08:16.384 Different i mean they were more fluffy they were lighter more almost like a 00:08:16.384 --> 00:08:22.624 uh a crepe like consistency for the batter versus like you know a liege where 00:08:22.624 --> 00:08:25.664 it's really like heavy and cake like so and. 00:08:25.664 --> 00:08:27.644 What was the jams. 00:08:27.644 --> 00:08:30.244 I mean i expected the square for the belgians using. 00:08:30.244 --> 00:08:34.504 So i mean there's like if you get the waffles at point here in Pittsburgh at 00:08:34.504 --> 00:08:39.544 Point Bruges Cafe or one of their, each location is named after the neighborhood 00:08:39.544 --> 00:08:42.004 it's in. So it's like Point Bruges or... 00:08:43.907 --> 00:08:46.947 I forget what the Highland Park one's called right now. Park Bruges. 00:08:47.287 --> 00:08:50.267 Oh, yeah. Anyway, they do liege waffles. 00:08:50.307 --> 00:08:53.267 And those are the ones that I've made at home because I thought they were the 00:08:53.267 --> 00:08:55.227 best. But you take pearl sugar, you mix it in. 00:08:55.267 --> 00:08:58.307 It's a very thick dough instead of a runny batter. 00:08:58.827 --> 00:09:02.507 And you press it into the waffle press, you know, like as a, 00:09:02.507 --> 00:09:05.287 like a, just a ball. And it gets smashed down by it. 00:09:05.467 --> 00:09:08.907 I thought those were my favorite kinds of waffles. 00:09:10.847 --> 00:09:14.247 But, yeah, these were very good too. and my tart 00:09:14.247 --> 00:09:17.607 thing wasn't as good so get the waffles um 00:09:17.607 --> 00:09:20.507 lots of lots of 00:09:20.507 --> 00:09:23.207 outside seating um oh yeah the guy 00:09:23.207 --> 00:09:26.387 was like i said he was so hospitable and he just knew 00:09:26.387 --> 00:09:32.567 i was a beer geek um we actually joined their quarterly beer club thing where 00:09:32.567 --> 00:09:37.687 they could we never do that they can chip this is the only brewery that we are 00:09:37.687 --> 00:09:43.767 members of right so we'll be able to have the beer ship to us. 00:09:44.447 --> 00:09:45.647 Or we can go pick it up. 00:09:45.687 --> 00:09:46.347 Every quarter. Yeah. 00:09:46.427 --> 00:09:48.467 How far is it? Five hours. 00:09:49.707 --> 00:09:50.587 Might make a trip. 00:09:50.667 --> 00:09:53.607 Might make a trip. I mean, you know, pulling the camper. It's five hours. 00:09:53.867 --> 00:09:54.227 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:09:54.887 --> 00:09:58.687 So, it's worth it when you don't get pulled over. 00:09:59.047 --> 00:10:00.287 Yeah, we'll talk about that later. 00:10:00.427 --> 00:10:00.587 Okay. 00:10:01.407 --> 00:10:03.027 My first field sobriety test. 00:10:06.127 --> 00:10:08.387 Yeah, we can compare yours to mine. Oh. 00:10:08.427 --> 00:10:08.907 Uh-oh. 00:10:09.307 --> 00:10:10.907 No, I've had one a long time. 00:10:10.907 --> 00:10:14.607 Oh, okay. All right, so that was the Oktoberfest. 00:10:14.607 --> 00:10:15.767 Oh, I haven't finished. Hold on. 00:10:16.387 --> 00:10:20.027 It's okay. Let's do the fruit one next. I want to get that out of the way, 00:10:20.067 --> 00:10:24.507 just to not have, like, the fruit two. Oh, there's two fruit ones. 00:10:24.667 --> 00:10:27.007 But we'll do the tangerine wheat next. 00:10:27.927 --> 00:10:28.727 Tangerine wheat. 00:10:31.587 --> 00:10:38.707 All right. So this guy is 6.4%. And... 00:10:42.842 --> 00:10:48.222 I'm just looking at the food pairings, and they are interesting. 00:10:49.902 --> 00:10:56.042 This one also suggests Korean flavors, which is kind of interesting. 00:10:58.482 --> 00:11:01.442 I'm trying to think what the rest of their menu was like. I mean, 00:11:01.442 --> 00:11:03.002 we only really looked at the brunch menu. 00:11:03.062 --> 00:11:05.382 We were there so long, we stayed for lunch. You remember? 00:11:06.702 --> 00:11:11.322 Oh, yeah, we ordered. What did we get for lunch? we. 00:11:11.322 --> 00:11:17.682 Got those fries that were i don't know loaded with something i can't remember and. 00:11:18.462 --> 00:11:20.982 Oh they're like garlic aioli yeah. 00:11:20.982 --> 00:11:25.842 Yeah and then we got a sandwich and split it or something too. 00:11:27.502 --> 00:11:29.522 Yeah i suppose we did it. 00:11:29.522 --> 00:11:32.702 Was i mean it's been so long now it feels like. 00:11:32.702 --> 00:11:35.742 I can't remember everything but we almost were there. 00:11:35.742 --> 00:11:36.482 For a long. 00:11:36.482 --> 00:11:39.782 Time that was towards the beginning of our trip but we went in this big loop 00:11:39.782 --> 00:11:42.722 around like the northern sides of all the finger lakes and then we came back 00:11:42.722 --> 00:11:47.422 to the southern side so one day we were like 40 minutes back from brewery our 00:11:47.422 --> 00:11:49.742 denim we're like they open for lunch in a half an. 00:11:49.742 --> 00:11:50.962 Hour should we go, 00:11:53.582 --> 00:11:57.302 okay so we have a tangerine wheat the first thing i smell off it was a bunch 00:11:57.302 --> 00:12:03.022 of carbonation and so it's got a lot i think a wheat in general you're gonna 00:12:03.022 --> 00:12:06.202 get that like burst i find, 00:12:07.642 --> 00:12:10.962 i'm getting as you're waiting for those i'm getting a big. 00:12:10.962 --> 00:12:13.262 Lemongrass kind of aroma. 00:12:14.422 --> 00:12:21.742 Well it's got tangerine in it right so i feel like that is going to smell very similar, 00:12:28.022 --> 00:12:30.662 mr clean mr clean but. 00:12:30.662 --> 00:12:34.182 Not in a bad way. 00:12:34.182 --> 00:12:39.982 Like the the awesome smelling with mr clean you want to drink like the tide pod you want to eat. 00:12:39.982 --> 00:12:41.502 Right yeah okay, 00:12:44.302 --> 00:12:46.942 i mean it's a bad thing to compare it to but. 00:12:48.302 --> 00:12:52.082 Hey the one i'm smelling right now your nose knows yeah. 00:12:52.082 --> 00:12:57.402 I i hope it don't well i i don't know what Mr. Clean tastes like. 00:12:58.902 --> 00:13:04.242 I'm sure they put lots of bittering agents in it to make sure that it's not like fun to drink. 00:13:04.802 --> 00:13:10.002 The fruit flavor really is strong. Strong compared to the aroma where it didn't 00:13:10.002 --> 00:13:10.922 seem like there was much there. 00:13:12.522 --> 00:13:16.222 It's kind of a blend. It's kind of a blend of the fruit juice, 00:13:16.422 --> 00:13:18.282 but also like the zest, I think. 00:13:18.422 --> 00:13:22.002 Yeah, it almost feels like a, what's it called, a randler? 00:13:22.862 --> 00:13:27.402 Rattler. where it's a mixture of the juice and the beer. It's almost that much. 00:13:29.142 --> 00:13:33.922 The food pairing, I'm going to say that aside from some adjectives they added 00:13:33.922 --> 00:13:35.922 to it, it's not too complicated. 00:13:35.962 --> 00:13:38.462 It's a protein. Any guess? Mm-hmm. 00:13:40.244 --> 00:13:40.644 Chicken. 00:13:41.444 --> 00:13:41.884 Yeah. 00:13:42.524 --> 00:13:44.044 Grilled local chicken thighs. 00:13:44.884 --> 00:13:46.244 Local. They have to be local. 00:13:46.544 --> 00:13:50.944 Grilled local chicken thighs. Yeah. And this is just Korean style marinade, 00:13:51.284 --> 00:13:54.724 miso, chili paste, ginger, garlic, pickled vegetables, salad, toasted sesame. 00:13:55.044 --> 00:13:58.964 Sesame is getting a lot of, all the Korean and sesame flavors are getting a 00:13:58.964 --> 00:14:01.844 lot of play, at least in the two so far. Yeah. We'll see if that continues. 00:14:03.064 --> 00:14:08.204 Probably their head chef or something writes the notes and he might've been 00:14:08.204 --> 00:14:11.984 on a, like an asian inspired kick when these beers came out. 00:14:11.984 --> 00:14:16.564 Let's see view today's menu today's menu has a, 00:14:17.504 --> 00:14:23.784 brie and apple sandwich a savory bouillabaisse zesty beer mussels yeah grape 00:14:23.784 --> 00:14:33.644 tart belgian dark chocolate panna cotta and pumpkin spice creme brulee not a bad it's. 00:14:33.644 --> 00:14:34.124 A good place. 00:14:34.124 --> 00:14:35.364 Yeah it's, 00:14:37.464 --> 00:14:41.304 It's really awesome. Oh, and they have two little Frenchies. 00:14:41.604 --> 00:14:46.864 And what were their names? Hops and... They had Barley and Hops? Barley and Hops. 00:14:46.864 --> 00:14:47.144 Yeah. 00:14:47.984 --> 00:14:48.464 Frenchies? 00:14:48.884 --> 00:14:49.364 Frenchies. 00:14:49.364 --> 00:14:50.164 Little dogs? 00:14:50.304 --> 00:14:51.244 The dogs are in the world. 00:14:53.422 --> 00:15:00.662 oh and his mom works there as the host hostess yeah hostess that seats everyone 00:15:00.662 --> 00:15:04.262 really sweet really neat family place i. 00:15:04.262 --> 00:15:07.022 Guess they don't want to name any of their frenchies yeast, 00:15:09.882 --> 00:15:10.462 yeast. 00:15:10.462 --> 00:15:14.902 They were there's some what was it they were getting a cat or something right that. 00:15:14.902 --> 00:15:22.302 Oh they got a feral cat or something well i don't know if it was feral i don't 00:15:22.302 --> 00:15:24.082 know I don't remember the story. 00:15:24.122 --> 00:15:25.262 It was going to have a themed name. 00:15:25.482 --> 00:15:29.422 Cats are, yeah, they're like, they're arguably not pets. 00:15:31.042 --> 00:15:34.402 You are sort of like, you know, they'll tolerate you. 00:15:34.702 --> 00:15:38.082 And it's not going to be, wasn't it going to be a barn cat? 00:15:38.822 --> 00:15:39.182 Probably. 00:15:39.722 --> 00:15:42.542 I don't think it was going to be an indoor cat. It's going to be a barn cat. 00:15:43.322 --> 00:15:47.282 Yeah. So now that you mentioned that they have, that they're hops and barley, 00:15:47.402 --> 00:15:50.782 this is hops on here because they have a little indicator, little letter, 00:15:50.822 --> 00:15:51.562 they have a letter on there. 00:15:51.562 --> 00:16:00.182 taller and so it's hops on the martzen and there's. 00:16:00.182 --> 00:16:01.242 Barley on that one. 00:16:01.242 --> 00:16:02.602 No it's also hops. 00:16:02.602 --> 00:16:07.782 Well we gotta find barley barley's on this one oh good barley there's barley. 00:16:07.782 --> 00:16:12.182 Barley's on the farm fall too i think it's the profile the one that's running 00:16:12.182 --> 00:16:16.162 sideways is hops and the one's coming towards you is barley so that not that 00:16:16.162 --> 00:16:20.082 that is important um this beer is tasty good It's good and drinkable. 00:16:20.302 --> 00:16:24.442 I don't think there's like deep flavors to really explore. 00:16:24.742 --> 00:16:27.942 Yeah, because normally a wheat has a lot of like all these interesting estuary 00:16:27.942 --> 00:16:29.942 stuff. That's kind of lost with the tangerine. 00:16:29.942 --> 00:16:32.662 Yeah, that's very strong in the tangerine. Yeah. 00:16:32.822 --> 00:16:37.582 At 6.7%, it's high for a Rattler. 00:16:37.682 --> 00:16:41.522 It's good balance, though. It's on the dry side. I mean, it's drinkable. 00:16:41.802 --> 00:16:47.542 For a fruited wheat beer, there's seldom that I've had that are better. I mean... 00:16:50.022 --> 00:16:56.262 I mean, since I like to have the wheat more present, I think that there are 00:16:56.262 --> 00:16:57.642 ones that I think are better. 00:16:58.222 --> 00:17:04.302 But the tangerine doesn't taste like medicine-y or artificial at all. So that's good. 00:17:06.942 --> 00:17:11.122 Yeah, so the trip that we were on, it was our first big trailer boondocking trip. 00:17:11.162 --> 00:17:15.082 Boondocking just means camping in your trailer without electric or water hookups, right? 00:17:15.142 --> 00:17:18.742 Using all the tanks and stuff that are in the trailer. and 00:17:18.742 --> 00:17:21.802 uh 17 days around the finger lakes the 00:17:21.802 --> 00:17:25.082 first two days were at wineries the first 00:17:25.082 --> 00:17:30.322 winery we stopped at had this beautiful hill overlooking a lake we we got there 00:17:30.322 --> 00:17:33.482 in the morning and worked there all day and then did a wine tasting right before 00:17:33.482 --> 00:17:38.062 they closed yeah and just cooked dinner at the trailer and oh that was the night 00:17:38.062 --> 00:17:43.082 shannon got to see saturn's rings through some binoculars with her eyes for the first time that. 00:17:43.082 --> 00:17:43.882 Was really cool. 00:17:43.882 --> 00:17:45.062 Yeah that. 00:17:45.062 --> 00:17:49.322 Was gorgeous that was It was stunning. You could see the Milky Way. 00:17:49.342 --> 00:17:53.922 But it wasn't spectacular, right? You could tell, oh, it's definitely that swath 00:17:53.922 --> 00:17:57.102 across there, but like you weren't seeing any of the purples or anything like that yet. 00:17:57.222 --> 00:18:00.442 I mean, you know, I've never been in a situation where you see the purple, 00:18:00.542 --> 00:18:05.902 but I have seen where it's like, oh, that's why they call it Milky Way. 00:18:06.002 --> 00:18:09.502 Because I think I explained this before, but it's like someone poured milk on 00:18:09.502 --> 00:18:14.322 the black velvet and it's like, yeah, it's like a stain on the sky. Yeah. 00:18:14.442 --> 00:18:14.802 Yeah. 00:18:14.962 --> 00:18:15.402 Yeah. Yep. 00:18:15.982 --> 00:18:20.002 Then we went to a second winery, this smaller place, not as fancy. 00:18:20.122 --> 00:18:26.362 The first one was like a multi-million dollar kind of investor kind of winery. 00:18:26.422 --> 00:18:29.222 Oh, the vineyards. Yeah. 00:18:29.302 --> 00:18:32.842 And the second one was this guy, retirement, owning a winery. 00:18:32.862 --> 00:18:35.202 I'm sure he still had a million dollars to open a winery, right? 00:18:35.262 --> 00:18:35.362 Yeah. 00:18:35.362 --> 00:18:39.602 But it wasn't like multi-million investor kind of place. It was pretty cool. 00:18:39.962 --> 00:18:42.722 He lived there too, which was neat. 00:18:43.822 --> 00:18:44.242 Yep. 00:18:45.727 --> 00:18:50.707 And then we jumped on to the breweries, a couple of the breweries. 00:18:50.767 --> 00:18:52.127 All the breweries were fine. 00:18:52.247 --> 00:18:55.687 None of them were bad, but some of them were like, like the one we stayed at 00:18:55.687 --> 00:18:59.467 the day we went to Brewery Ardenne, like we didn't bring home any beers from them. 00:18:59.527 --> 00:19:03.407 You know, there wasn't anything noteworthy, you know, to bring home. 00:19:05.187 --> 00:19:08.607 Shanahan's wearing a relative risk t-shirt right now. That was another really nice brewery. 00:19:08.627 --> 00:19:12.647 A little more of doing, I mean, they had more of the hazy hoppy stuff, 00:19:12.767 --> 00:19:17.047 but they also had like a dunkle that they just tapped that was really good too so yeah. 00:19:17.047 --> 00:19:18.507 They had some really good me and dunkle. 00:19:18.507 --> 00:19:24.607 There we actually met some a couple from pittsburgh that we hit it off with 00:19:24.607 --> 00:19:27.847 and we're actually going to hang out with yeah we actually went to. 00:19:27.847 --> 00:19:32.267 Another brewery after that and met up with them there. 00:19:32.267 --> 00:19:36.127 Yeah well we had pizza at the one and then went to the second one that's. 00:19:36.127 --> 00:19:39.667 Yeah where was the karaoke oh we. 00:19:39.667 --> 00:19:49.387 Oh that was at a place called um hopshire farm and what it is is um so it's right in. 00:19:49.387 --> 00:19:50.427 It's in ithaca. 00:19:50.427 --> 00:19:55.087 Right outside of ithaca and ithaca is called to college town right it has cordell 00:19:55.087 --> 00:20:01.647 and ithaca and um lots of entertainers lots of musicians and basically the bartender 00:20:01.647 --> 00:20:05.987 told shannon like yeah everyone who's singing up there singing's in bands around 00:20:05.987 --> 00:20:07.167 town and stuff like that. 00:20:07.567 --> 00:20:15.267 And yeah, it was, it felt like we were just like at a concert kind of thing. 00:20:15.427 --> 00:20:21.967 Yeah, at like Bottle Rocket or something, you know, listening to a great concert. It was incredible. 00:20:23.789 --> 00:20:30.629 I was stunned. I was, because when we made the reservation, the owner, 00:20:30.829 --> 00:20:36.449 you know, sends a message and said, you know, we have karaoke that night. 00:20:36.649 --> 00:20:40.909 I hope you're, you know, you're going to join in. And I'm like, oh, no, please don't. 00:20:43.149 --> 00:20:44.949 We don't want that place to close, too. 00:20:47.229 --> 00:20:53.469 But we didn't. Jeff did not go up and do any karaoke. I think it was the second singer. 00:20:53.789 --> 00:20:57.049 I think it was the second singer and this is where we knew like oh this is something 00:20:57.049 --> 00:21:02.669 this guy was in his 40s say 42 or something like that but he he's a punk right 00:21:02.669 --> 00:21:06.909 had a mohawk jean jacket the the thing they put on the back of his jean jacket 00:21:06.909 --> 00:21:08.689 uh was goonies is good enough, 00:21:11.389 --> 00:21:16.089 and uh you know black pants boots but he must have been in action so he's walking 00:21:16.089 --> 00:21:24.649 with a cane yeah but he used it as he got up there act and what does he sing um frank sinatra, 00:21:25.589 --> 00:21:30.769 crooner okay he's and his voice like he he was amazing he's basically saying 00:21:30.769 --> 00:21:37.529 the the raspy punk stuff that he did in his 20s actually like ties into the 00:21:37.529 --> 00:21:42.589 the crooner kind of sinatra or or Neil Diamond or those kinds of vocals in his forties. 00:21:42.649 --> 00:21:47.689 But I mean, it was like, like a cognitive dissidence. 00:21:48.269 --> 00:21:51.989 Like, like what I'm seeing doesn't match what I'm hearing. It was so fun, 00:21:52.049 --> 00:21:55.549 you know? And then there was another guy there who would sing, 00:21:55.589 --> 00:21:59.229 like he sang this Judas, this really hard Judas priest song, 00:21:59.269 --> 00:22:02.349 like eighties metal, like so well. 00:22:02.349 --> 00:22:03.429 And hit the notes. 00:22:03.649 --> 00:22:04.069 Yeah. 00:22:05.929 --> 00:22:09.089 Perfectly. Yeah. Everybody that sang. 00:22:09.729 --> 00:22:12.729 Really i mean like i i 00:22:12.729 --> 00:22:16.009 i don't find myself like intimidated by 00:22:16.009 --> 00:22:20.049 those guys like i would have just gone up and just been myself and i'm not great 00:22:20.049 --> 00:22:25.169 but you know i'm fine but you know i'm always i like it when other people are 00:22:25.169 --> 00:22:30.469 great but i also like it when other people are yeah i mean it doesn't like the 00:22:30.469 --> 00:22:32.809 thing the thing is it should be fun and. 00:22:32.809 --> 00:22:38.149 It was it was definitely fun but it wasn't the karaoke fun that you expect. 00:22:38.149 --> 00:22:40.489 There were people that weren't amazing. And there was... 00:22:40.489 --> 00:22:46.289 Well, there was the one lady who is a snowbird because she goes to the same 00:22:46.289 --> 00:22:47.989 places in Florida that my mom does. 00:22:48.109 --> 00:22:49.769 There was two other people that weren't that good. 00:22:50.349 --> 00:22:51.629 I mean... Yeah, yeah. 00:22:51.709 --> 00:22:55.409 So, I mean, but then it was the group of people that all knew each other that 00:22:55.409 --> 00:22:57.549 come to every karaoke there that... 00:22:58.409 --> 00:23:01.369 All over. They go to every karaoke. Yeah. 00:23:01.369 --> 00:23:03.189 They're all in bands and stuff. Yeah. 00:23:06.166 --> 00:23:09.466 Yeah, one of them was the lead singer of a band, and the other one was a guitar 00:23:09.466 --> 00:23:11.926 player, and, you know, backup vocals. 00:23:12.086 --> 00:23:13.006 One of them was Jell-O Swift. 00:23:13.366 --> 00:23:16.306 Yeah. Yeah, so that was super fun. 00:23:16.466 --> 00:23:23.786 I almost got up. I couldn't think of a song that I knew well enough to not stumble over something. 00:23:25.666 --> 00:23:30.366 But they sang the last song, and they asked you to come up, and you loved to 00:23:30.366 --> 00:23:33.026 sing that song karaoke. I didn't like that song. I thought you did. 00:23:33.186 --> 00:23:33.446 No. 00:23:33.446 --> 00:23:33.886 What song? 00:23:33.906 --> 00:23:34.866 I can't remember. 00:23:34.866 --> 00:23:39.446 I guess they have tradition to finish the night with ball and chain from social yeah. 00:23:39.446 --> 00:23:41.626 You love social distortion. 00:23:41.626 --> 00:23:45.186 I like story of my life yeah like i might have sang that, 00:23:46.686 --> 00:23:51.506 i was yeah i got in my head it was like what song do i know well enough where i won't, 00:23:52.186 --> 00:23:56.786 start a verse early or stumble over some words or something i don't care if 00:23:56.786 --> 00:24:00.986 i'm out of tune right but i want to be able to execute the song you know and 00:24:00.986 --> 00:24:05.046 i just was drawing a blank on which song I could sing that well. 00:24:05.186 --> 00:24:06.586 That's Red. Is that a bad thing? 00:24:07.886 --> 00:24:09.246 No, Red's good. Okay. 00:24:10.246 --> 00:24:14.526 I was pointing on the soundboard. I remember that last time we had an issue with... 00:24:14.526 --> 00:24:18.406 No, thank you. I mean, no, Red's good. It's recording. We're 24 minutes and 00:24:18.406 --> 00:24:21.006 17 seconds in. I think it's time to get on. 00:24:21.006 --> 00:24:25.726 Yeah, sorry. But if you want a song that you don't have to be on tune, 00:24:25.846 --> 00:24:27.646 really, think of a Red Hot Chili 00:24:27.646 --> 00:24:30.266 Peppers song. Those are fun to sing and you don't have to be on tune. 00:24:30.266 --> 00:24:31.686 You definitely don't have to be on tune. 00:24:33.866 --> 00:24:39.466 Yeah, I suppose. All right, let's go on to the Fall Farm Ale, 00:24:39.766 --> 00:24:41.486 their Belgian-style Saison. 00:24:42.206 --> 00:24:51.066 All right. I'm looking for that on their site, which is... 00:24:51.926 --> 00:24:53.826 Oh, okay, that's why it was on the wrong page. 00:24:57.086 --> 00:24:58.946 Fall Farm Ale? No. 00:25:01.913 --> 00:25:02.333 Yes. 00:25:04.353 --> 00:25:05.633 Yeah, I can't find it. 00:25:08.893 --> 00:25:14.333 Oh, I see it. Got it. This one has barley on it. 00:25:17.633 --> 00:25:22.853 Barley is the dog on the front. And he has a, you know, his tongue is sticking 00:25:22.853 --> 00:25:24.053 out. He's happy to see you. 00:25:26.293 --> 00:25:27.093 5.9%. 00:25:30.233 --> 00:25:32.993 They call it a unique yeast strain. 00:25:33.273 --> 00:25:37.553 And what do they recommend food-wise to go with it? 00:25:37.973 --> 00:25:39.853 Would you like to make a guess? 00:25:40.093 --> 00:25:41.173 Oh, I haven't sniffed it yet. 00:25:44.233 --> 00:25:47.433 This would go good with the breakfast waffles that I had. 00:25:48.333 --> 00:25:56.093 I would say based on the style, what they are suggesting sounds about right. 00:25:58.193 --> 00:26:00.293 Well, I read the label, so I know what they're suggesting. 00:26:00.693 --> 00:26:01.733 Oh, it's on there? Yeah. 00:26:04.353 --> 00:26:05.433 Do you want to pronounce that? 00:26:06.053 --> 00:26:09.593 Oh, maybe it's different. This says pair it with fall vegetables, 00:26:09.893 --> 00:26:11.253 cheddar cheese, and grilled poultry. 00:26:11.513 --> 00:26:13.413 Ooh, squash soup. 00:26:13.613 --> 00:26:16.213 This one says a ni-qua salad. 00:26:16.753 --> 00:26:17.133 Huh? 00:26:17.513 --> 00:26:18.913 N-I-C-O-I-S-E. 00:26:19.173 --> 00:26:21.233