WEBVTT 00:00:09.620 --> 00:00:20.440 CBR episode 524 on November 11th, November 9th, 2024, where now I have a snotty nose. 00:00:23.660 --> 00:00:27.960 Welcome to CBR, formerly known as Craft Beer Radio, sometimes still known as 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:30.180 Craft Beer Radio. Habits are hard to kill. 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:38.380 And I don't know what's going on. We got some beers from Mark on our Discord. He sent us in some beers. 00:00:39.620 --> 00:00:45.100 All from New Galera. One of those blue wall states that didn't hold out for us. 00:00:48.060 --> 00:00:48.980 Too soon. 00:00:49.140 --> 00:00:51.600 We're going to talk about that right now? I mean, we can start. 00:00:52.100 --> 00:00:54.140 No, we probably should save it for later. 00:00:54.360 --> 00:00:59.320 Look, I just want to point out, before anything happens, we wanted democracy 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:02.840 to win. And this democracy won. 00:01:03.160 --> 00:01:10.680 This was a clear, you know, for whatever sake that happened, So this was very clear. 00:01:11.460 --> 00:01:14.400 All right. We have our Pilsner. 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:17.460 Yes. New Glarus Brewing's Pilsner. 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:22.280 Now we heard the story when I brought the New Glarus Spotted Cow back, 00:01:22.540 --> 00:01:25.400 which was, I didn't like it in cans. 00:01:25.720 --> 00:01:28.740 I liked it better in bottles. 00:01:30.220 --> 00:01:34.900 And we came to the conclusion by drinking one after the show that it was actually 00:01:34.900 --> 00:01:36.020 better straight out of the bottle. 00:01:36.220 --> 00:01:36.900 Mm-hmm. 00:01:36.900 --> 00:01:45.280 It was... in in the glass right so so i think it's just the can experience on 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:46.700 a new glitters it's just kind of sucky. 00:01:46.700 --> 00:01:49.960 Okay well we'll see how the pilsner goes the pilsner is in the that's if you're 00:01:49.960 --> 00:01:54.020 drinking directly from the can oh drinking from the can yeah yeah i mean in 00:01:54.020 --> 00:01:57.800 more new glitters news one of the breweries that we stopped at when we were 00:01:57.800 --> 00:02:01.300 out in denver is peter buchard's the the a brewer from New Belgium. 00:02:01.460 --> 00:02:06.740 His new place. And they had a Wisconsin creemail on. 00:02:08.220 --> 00:02:12.700 And I wish I was more sober for this conversation because she was saying there 00:02:12.700 --> 00:02:15.380 was something like, this was like the old Spotted Cow. 00:02:15.640 --> 00:02:19.000 And I said that on the Discord. And we had this whole conversation on Discord 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:22.800 about like, no, no, yes, no, Spotted Cow hasn't changed, has it? 00:02:23.040 --> 00:02:28.800 And I was confused, I think, because when we had it back in the day, 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:30.920 And maybe we did our internet research. 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:33.180 The internet told us it was a cream ale. 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:38.180 And when we had it just a couple weeks ago, it was listed as a farmhouse. 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:41.680 And I remember seeing some confusion about that. 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:45.540 and then when the lady 00:02:45.540 --> 00:02:51.520 at the brewery talked about this is like what spotted cow used to be i was like 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:59.440 oh yeah crema right and so i was conflating our our kind of cockeyed assessments 00:02:59.440 --> 00:03:04.480 from before and what she had said but like talking with mark and people on discord no one knows that, 00:03:05.674 --> 00:03:07.834 spotted cow has changed other than. 00:03:07.834 --> 00:03:10.254 It could have been just like probably we were getting information from like 00:03:10.254 --> 00:03:12.894 beer advocate or something and they called it a cream ale yeah. 00:03:12.894 --> 00:03:17.574 Yeah but i mean aside from peter's people thinking that it has changed i don't 00:03:17.574 --> 00:03:22.034 know so it's this whole big mystery i wish i wish i had my facts straight when 00:03:22.034 --> 00:03:23.134 i was talking to her about it. 00:03:23.134 --> 00:03:30.854 So this is their pilsner from new glaris is a lot here i know i'll read it after 00:03:30.854 --> 00:03:35.194 we start quaffing i'll read the information, like the text here. 00:03:35.274 --> 00:03:36.534 I can tell you some of the information here. 00:03:38.394 --> 00:03:42.174 Diamant, Middlefra, Saphir, selected Hillertau blank hops. 00:03:42.894 --> 00:03:46.494 So, wide range of continental hops. 00:03:47.374 --> 00:03:53.114 35 IBU, and that's all I have. There might be alcohol on the can or something. 00:03:53.714 --> 00:03:57.834 I mean, it's certainly within that range of, like, low fives, right? 00:03:58.054 --> 00:03:58.474 Probably. 00:03:59.054 --> 00:04:00.414 I don't know if it's on there. 00:04:00.914 --> 00:04:01.274 See. 00:04:01.274 --> 00:04:04.074 The aroma smells like 00:04:04.074 --> 00:04:06.954 pilsner yeah it's bready 00:04:06.954 --> 00:04:11.834 it's it's interesting when i went on to the flavor i kind of got that noble 00:04:11.834 --> 00:04:16.814 hop flavor up front so like it's a little different from the aroma i was expecting 00:04:16.814 --> 00:04:21.474 more of a malt backbone to it and at least for the very first sip front of the 00:04:21.474 --> 00:04:25.074 tongue it's getting this kind of spicy noble hop flavor lots. 00:04:25.074 --> 00:04:30.254 Of hops here yeah definitely right up front. There's a good malty Pilsner backbone 00:04:30.254 --> 00:04:33.754 underneath it. But yeah, up front, it's hops. 00:04:34.134 --> 00:04:36.454 Distinctly hoppier than a lot of Pilsner's. 00:04:37.774 --> 00:04:40.554 I don't see an ABV on that can anyway. 00:04:40.814 --> 00:04:44.574 Yeah, I don't know. So this is 24 alcohol, by the way. 00:04:47.714 --> 00:04:49.854 That might be untrue. 00:04:49.994 --> 00:04:50.294 Might. 00:04:52.434 --> 00:04:55.114 But, I mean, since facts don't matter anymore. 00:04:58.354 --> 00:05:01.654 we played a really fun improv game warming up 00:05:01.654 --> 00:05:05.434 we didn't record it would have been fun to have but it's called 60 second expert 00:05:05.434 --> 00:05:10.274 which greg is and basically you're just given a topic and you just need to talk 00:05:10.274 --> 00:05:15.634 about that topic confidently for 60 seconds not correctly but confident yeah 00:05:15.634 --> 00:05:20.034 it's a fun game we're gonna i think we're gonna play it somewhere in the post show. 00:05:21.227 --> 00:05:23.487 Ah, I was hoping we were doing karaoke tonight. 00:05:23.707 --> 00:05:24.647 Well, we could do karaoke. 00:05:24.807 --> 00:05:30.047 I mean, I will never say no to karaoke. And I was recently in North Korea. 00:05:30.167 --> 00:05:31.287 In North Korea. North Korea. 00:05:31.707 --> 00:05:33.247 South Korea. Wow. 00:05:33.547 --> 00:05:33.967 Look at that. 00:05:38.467 --> 00:05:44.687 Recently in South Korea and unfortunately didn't get a chance to really karaoke it up. So, yeah. 00:05:46.447 --> 00:05:48.327 We're going to have to sing Gangnam Style tonight. 00:05:48.467 --> 00:05:49.947 We might have to. I was in Gangnam. 00:05:52.047 --> 00:05:55.467 Not for super long, but I was in Gangnam during the day. I mean, 00:05:55.767 --> 00:05:57.247 it didn't go to any clubs or anything like that. 00:05:57.967 --> 00:06:01.367 Not a club kind of person anyway. Not bad. 00:06:02.087 --> 00:06:03.287 No, I like it. 00:06:03.567 --> 00:06:08.567 A little over hoppy, I think. Like, I think I would prefer to be more malty. 00:06:09.907 --> 00:06:13.947 That's probably why I like it. It's less malty and more hoppy. 00:06:14.207 --> 00:06:17.307 I'm not sure if I have a preference on that. I like that it's different, 00:06:17.527 --> 00:06:23.867 first off. I can't think of the last time I've had a Pilsner with this kind 00:06:23.867 --> 00:06:27.367 of European strong hopping to it, right? 00:06:27.447 --> 00:06:30.647 I've had ones where their hops are more fruity or melony or stuff like that. 00:06:30.807 --> 00:06:32.847 But this one's straight up noble hop spice. 00:06:33.287 --> 00:06:36.087 Well, what was Victory's Pils? 00:06:36.687 --> 00:06:37.507 Prima Pils. 00:06:38.087 --> 00:06:38.427 Yeah. 00:06:39.207 --> 00:06:40.627 I don't remember that. 00:06:40.807 --> 00:06:45.667 You probably have never had it. It's been a long time since I've seen it anywhere around here. 00:06:45.827 --> 00:06:45.987 Huh. 00:06:46.387 --> 00:06:52.727 Hey, Tim, fix that. you still listen right no he totally listens he's the guy 00:06:52.727 --> 00:06:56.507 we met up with when you were in Korea he was out here for a Brewers of Pennsylvania 00:06:56.507 --> 00:07:00.347 seminar and we went to Lilav yes. 00:07:00.347 --> 00:07:01.507 We did that was. 00:07:01.507 --> 00:07:04.567 A fun night a listener it was awesome. 00:07:05.147 --> 00:07:10.147 So if anybody else comes to Pittsburgh yeah we'll you know. 00:07:10.147 --> 00:07:15.547 As long as we're around lots of traveling this month it's been a crazy month 00:07:15.547 --> 00:07:18.747 for travel for Shannon and I but also Greg Yeah. 00:07:19.067 --> 00:07:22.967 All of us. We have many stories. So many stories. 00:07:23.287 --> 00:07:25.507 The biggest, the best stories. 00:07:25.847 --> 00:07:28.307 We love the stories, don't we, folks? Okay. 00:07:31.607 --> 00:07:37.807 All right, here's the text of this, because I wanted to save this because it felt too... 00:07:39.345 --> 00:07:45.305 Too weird to do it before. Quests of unobtainable, of blue, blah, 00:07:45.445 --> 00:07:46.285 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:07:46.385 --> 00:07:49.385 What were our, what were our things we did before? We also did some tongue twisters. 00:07:50.365 --> 00:07:55.785 I slit a sheet, a sheet I slit. Upon a slitted sheet, I sit, 00:07:56.785 --> 00:07:58.725 actually. But I like to say shit. 00:08:00.345 --> 00:08:07.045 Quests of unobtainable perfection exists. Brewmaster Dan's holy grail is the perfect pilsner. 00:08:07.745 --> 00:08:11.405 His ideal being an old-school blur of German and Czech styles. 00:08:12.005 --> 00:08:15.565 Heirloom Pilsner malted barley and a double concoction mash, 00:08:15.785 --> 00:08:19.785 double decoction mash, rather, begin the Mattingly complex journey. 00:08:20.025 --> 00:08:24.205 Joined by Bavarian royalty, Diamant, Middlefra, Saphir, Select, 00:08:24.385 --> 00:08:29.325 and Hillertal blank hops that gracefully weigh in a quaffable 35 IBU, 00:08:29.505 --> 00:08:33.365 the simplicity of a six-week lager forges this Pilsner treasure. 00:08:33.365 --> 00:08:37.865 I do believe that ChatGPT was involved in that description. 00:08:39.265 --> 00:08:43.525 No, it's probably from before that. It's a bunch of marketing spaghetti for sure. 00:08:44.085 --> 00:08:44.985 Yeah, it's good. 00:08:45.265 --> 00:08:50.505 I like the beer. If I was picking, I'd have to have them side by side. 00:08:50.665 --> 00:08:53.925 One of these and one that has more multi-character and figure out which one 00:08:53.925 --> 00:09:00.485 I like better. I love that it's different. I love that it gave me a distinctly 00:09:00.485 --> 00:09:05.225 different vibe than all of the Pilsners I had out in Denver. And Denver's... 00:09:05.225 --> 00:09:07.085 Denver had some good Pilsners. 00:09:07.385 --> 00:09:09.985 Like, it's starting to catch on here a little bit. And, you know, 00:09:10.105 --> 00:09:12.465 Denver's always further ahead than Pittsburgh. 00:09:12.645 --> 00:09:18.385 And there's a lot of lager, a lot of lager love going on out there. 00:09:19.138 --> 00:09:20.478 All right. So we have, um. 00:09:20.598 --> 00:09:24.338 I can drink up. I really like this though. I'm trying to smear it. 00:09:24.438 --> 00:09:28.798 Well, get another glass then. I don't think the listeners want to listen to 00:09:28.798 --> 00:09:29.758 you and not drink your beer. 00:09:30.598 --> 00:09:34.578 We got three sours. I didn't mean that mean way. Did we get that bottle opener? 00:09:34.858 --> 00:09:35.138 Yeah. 00:09:35.278 --> 00:09:35.658 There it is. 00:09:35.738 --> 00:09:37.358 I'm not giving it to you now. Open it with your teeth. 00:09:37.418 --> 00:09:38.138 We just want. 00:09:38.618 --> 00:09:39.318 What are we doing? 00:09:40.118 --> 00:09:41.518 The strawberry rhubarb. 00:09:41.978 --> 00:09:43.218 Now going to the Belgian red first? 00:09:43.358 --> 00:09:45.418 We can do Belgian red first. Sure. 00:09:45.938 --> 00:09:46.858 We, uh, whatever. Okay. 00:09:47.458 --> 00:09:48.518 Let's do Belgian red. 00:09:48.518 --> 00:09:53.258 The first line of this intrigues me. You hold the marriage of wine and beer. 00:09:54.058 --> 00:09:54.878 Oh, no. 00:09:55.078 --> 00:09:56.458 And it's starting to go. 00:09:56.758 --> 00:09:58.038 Oh, it's going to go. 00:09:58.418 --> 00:10:02.618 Wasn't a bad gusher, but it was a little gushy. This is the Belgian red, right? Yeah. 00:10:04.178 --> 00:10:10.038 Brewed with Montmorency cherries, Wisconsin farm wheat, and Belgian roasted barley. 00:10:11.358 --> 00:10:13.758 Interesting. Oh, no. 00:10:14.298 --> 00:10:15.058 Oh, no. 00:10:15.238 --> 00:10:17.178 I closed Chrome and then it decided to update. 00:10:17.178 --> 00:10:19.478 And accidentally closed Chrome and it was an update. 00:10:19.658 --> 00:10:20.718 Oh, no. Where's the... 00:10:23.978 --> 00:10:25.558 I have none of the... 00:10:25.558 --> 00:10:30.058 All that's on Chrome. I know. Oh, no. Effects for the failure. 00:10:30.298 --> 00:10:32.438 I'll do them. I'll do them. Don't you worry. 00:10:32.818 --> 00:10:36.418 They're not anymore. There you go. All right. 00:10:36.498 --> 00:10:41.138 I haven't had Belgian Red in probably 15 years. 00:10:41.958 --> 00:10:46.358 I know the last time we had it, it came in a large bottle, big old 750. 00:10:46.358 --> 00:10:48.238 This one's in a 12-ounce bottle. 00:10:49.778 --> 00:10:54.438 What's the ABV on this? Do they have it? I don't think they like to put them 00:10:54.438 --> 00:10:56.478 on their bottles. Maybe they don't have to in Wisconsin. 00:10:56.818 --> 00:11:01.518 That's why they're going to have to anywhere. So 4%, according to Beer Advocate. 00:11:01.578 --> 00:11:02.258 I hope they have to. 00:11:03.498 --> 00:11:03.898 4%. 00:11:03.898 --> 00:11:06.478 Now you just got all the extra yeast and crap at the bottom. 00:11:07.138 --> 00:11:08.058 Which might be good. 00:11:10.498 --> 00:11:13.318 I'm tired. Shannon took the dregs out of the bottom of the bottle, 00:11:13.418 --> 00:11:16.258 which I carefully decanted, and she just poured it into her glass. 00:11:17.298 --> 00:11:22.078 I was like, oh, there's more beer in there I'm tired Alright. 00:11:22.378 --> 00:11:28.658 So this one pours Even carefully decanted It's pretty cloudy It's. 00:11:28.658 --> 00:11:29.458 Kind of like Pittsburgh. 00:11:30.238 --> 00:11:34.338 Yours isn't fair to judge But The 00:11:34.338 --> 00:11:38.418 aroma on it has a bit of Tootsie Roll or something Oops, I didn't mean to, 00:11:42.678 --> 00:11:43.298 Woo! 00:11:44.478 --> 00:11:45.138 Woo! Woo! 00:11:48.634 --> 00:11:57.174 It was well played oh oh it smells delicious it kind of smells like a cherry 00:11:57.174 --> 00:12:00.534 candy smells like cherry starburst i think that's what i'm smelling right now oh. 00:12:00.534 --> 00:12:07.334 I was thinking what are those hard candies that answers yeah jolly rancher yeah that thing. 00:12:07.334 --> 00:12:11.554 Okay yeah a little bit of cherry jolly rancher cherry starburst so. 00:12:11.554 --> 00:12:18.334 It's a mix between the two i really i think that those are both good both really good signposts. 00:12:18.334 --> 00:12:23.374 Yeah it's actually the starburst it's it's weird right because i don't want 00:12:23.374 --> 00:12:27.434 it to taste like candy i want it to taste like cherry so like the smell is kind 00:12:27.434 --> 00:12:29.134 of like oh oh hopefully it's. 00:12:29.134 --> 00:12:36.054 Well i mean that's aroma and aroma combines with tasting flavor so it's not 00:12:36.054 --> 00:12:38.874 necessary unless that's like the only compound in there which i doubt. 00:12:39.974 --> 00:12:44.374 It has a lot of cherry Jolly Rancher flavor to it. The tartness kind of aligns 00:12:44.374 --> 00:12:46.454 with the tartness you get from a Jolly Rancher. 00:12:47.314 --> 00:12:48.574 I like this. 00:12:48.754 --> 00:12:49.594 It's pretty good. 00:12:49.814 --> 00:12:50.894 This is very good. 00:12:51.134 --> 00:12:57.294 It does have a little bit of that like candiness to it that feels vaguely artificial 00:12:57.294 --> 00:12:59.654 just because we're so used to it in cherry candies. 00:13:00.614 --> 00:13:03.714 It has a darker note too, almost like a Tootsie Roll or something, 00:13:03.854 --> 00:13:05.674 like a bit of cocoa or something in there. 00:13:05.974 --> 00:13:10.014 I would imagine that's some of the malt coming through. One thing that I learned 00:13:10.014 --> 00:13:14.214 very recently that I didn't know about, but it makes total sense, 00:13:14.454 --> 00:13:20.074 is that a lot of the things that compute the aroma part that contribute to flavor 00:13:20.074 --> 00:13:22.974 comes from the back of your mouth. 00:13:24.354 --> 00:13:28.434 The stuff that contributes to flavor comes more from coming from the back of 00:13:28.434 --> 00:13:33.714 your mouth, both from your digestive system and from what aerates out from down 00:13:33.714 --> 00:13:37.534 your throat, as opposed to what goes directly in your mouth, in your nose up front. 00:13:38.856 --> 00:13:43.916 I forget what it's called. It's something about, yeah, I don't have the name 00:13:43.916 --> 00:13:49.756 remembered, but like olfactory respiration or something like that. But, okay. 00:13:50.816 --> 00:13:51.736 This is really good. 00:13:52.576 --> 00:13:53.296 It's good. 00:13:53.896 --> 00:13:55.296 I couldn't drink a lot of it. 00:13:55.296 --> 00:14:00.116 I wouldn't say it's complex. I think it's kind of giving you what it's giving you. 00:14:00.216 --> 00:14:00.496 Yes. 00:14:00.516 --> 00:14:03.716 I'm not able to like unearth additional flavors. It's kind of, 00:14:03.876 --> 00:14:07.676 here's the cards. This is the hand you're playing. 00:14:07.676 --> 00:14:13.496 Yeah, it's pretty simple. It's not unlike, it's not unlikable. 00:14:13.836 --> 00:14:16.096 It's not undrinkable. It's a, it's a little. 00:14:16.096 --> 00:14:20.356 Better than a lot of gozes and quick sours and things like that. 00:14:20.536 --> 00:14:28.136 So it, it kind of plays in that depth of flavor, but it's better flavors than quick sour. 00:14:28.136 --> 00:14:31.236 I haven't really had Belgian reds before, I guess. 00:14:31.476 --> 00:14:36.596 Is this what I should expect? Is it at all what you would expect in a Belgian red? 00:14:37.296 --> 00:14:43.216 This one is, like the fruit, it's almost like, I'm not sure if you're familiar 00:14:43.216 --> 00:14:45.236 with the term, but with cider with back sweetening. 00:14:45.876 --> 00:14:50.896 We've talked about it maybe, but, you know, like a cider were fermented out pretty dry. 00:14:51.136 --> 00:14:54.276 And one way to make a yummy cider is once the yeast are done, 00:14:54.656 --> 00:14:59.436 to kind of add more unfermented apple juice so it's sweeter and more apple cidery 00:14:59.436 --> 00:15:01.916 as opposed to just fermented cider. 00:15:02.356 --> 00:15:04.956 And that's a trick I've done with them when I've made cider. 00:15:05.856 --> 00:15:09.956 You either have to kill the yeast with sulfites or just keep everything really 00:15:09.956 --> 00:15:12.856 cold so the yeast doesn't wake up and ferment the apple sugars. 00:15:13.296 --> 00:15:19.396 But this tastes like Belgian red, but back-sweetened with cherry juice kind of thing. 00:15:19.496 --> 00:15:25.676 They call it the marriage of wine and beer. I think that it's not the best wine 00:15:25.676 --> 00:15:26.896 in the world that they're thinking of. 00:15:26.956 --> 00:15:30.096 They're thinking of a relatively cheap wine that's fine, but not going to blow yourself off. 00:15:30.096 --> 00:15:33.976 A very sweet wine, one that I wouldn't necessarily get. 00:15:33.976 --> 00:15:38.556 I think it's, that's just catering to a wine drinker. 00:15:38.716 --> 00:15:44.156 You go to the pub, like, what do you got that, I like wine, what do you got? Here, try this, right? 00:15:44.356 --> 00:15:49.796 I mean, sours have been that way for, across the board, for non-beer drinkers. 00:15:50.136 --> 00:15:54.756 This one, this one's like, you like sangria? Here, drink this. 00:15:55.056 --> 00:16:00.256 Yeah, that adds a really good call. Yeah. The flavor's flat in the sense that 00:16:00.256 --> 00:16:03.636 there's not a lot to explore here. No. But it's a good flavor. 00:16:03.636 --> 00:16:05.756 But I do like it. 00:16:06.176 --> 00:16:11.956 Yeah, I think the four ounces we each got was the right size. 00:16:11.976 --> 00:16:12.276 Mm-hmm. 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:19.379 Yeah it's i don't want to sound like where i'm pooping on it it's it's good it's just not complex. 00:16:20.339 --> 00:16:26.339 Color is kind of a amberish so recent 00:16:26.339 --> 00:16:30.139 so i was in south korea for a week and had 00:16:30.139 --> 00:16:33.299 some interesting food i was with jeff 00:16:33.299 --> 00:16:36.079 recently and he asked me what was what was better the japanese food or 00:16:36.079 --> 00:16:39.799 the korean food and i said japanese food by a mile not 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:42.559 even close um the korean food 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:45.399 is fine good even in in a lot 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:48.599 of cases but japanese food is special on 00:16:48.599 --> 00:16:57.899 a whole nother order it's just they spend too much time caring about the the 00:16:57.899 --> 00:17:03.479 quality and the craftsmanship of what they do with regards to food whereas korea 00:17:03.479 --> 00:17:08.499 has a very uh 1950s american army sort of, 00:17:09.199 --> 00:17:13.579 throw the stonets together and see when we're stuck in a certain period of time. 00:17:13.959 --> 00:17:17.319 That's interesting. All right, the next one we're going to do, 00:17:17.379 --> 00:17:21.299 I'm not going to rush into it, but this is the milk chocolate stout. 00:17:21.639 --> 00:17:23.959 Ooh. Nice. 00:17:24.979 --> 00:17:29.739 And then after that, we'll do a sour and then we'll go into the coffee stout. 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.419 All right. I'm trying to find milk chocolate stout on their site. 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:36.839 This one's a can. And. 00:17:37.679 --> 00:17:43.799 I really thought that it was a law that you had to put the ABV on the. 00:17:44.259 --> 00:17:44.839 Nope. 00:17:45.539 --> 00:17:47.379 Don't have to put the calories on it either. 00:17:47.939 --> 00:17:48.219 Well. 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:52.979 The main reason for the calorie one is the Brewers Association, 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:58.059 last I checked, was lobbying against that because it puts small brewers at a 00:17:58.059 --> 00:18:00.519 disadvantage of having to get their stuff lab tested. 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:01.279 Mm-hmm. 00:18:03.619 --> 00:18:08.879 This is part of the Thumbprint series. Their milk chocolate stout. 00:18:09.419 --> 00:18:12.819 I think some places you're not allowed to put the ABV on it. 00:18:12.979 --> 00:18:13.319 Really? 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:18.499 Because it's the stupid people in charge see it as a marketing thing. 00:18:18.499 --> 00:18:19.779 Like, oh, the bigger the number. 00:18:20.819 --> 00:18:21.779 Really? Yeah. 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:24.319 Six percent, according to Untappd. 00:18:25.059 --> 00:18:28.239 That's not very high, is it, for a stout? 00:18:28.439 --> 00:18:30.899 For a stout, that's fine. That's what I would expect. 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:33.359 Yeah. I mean, you're used to... 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:33.939 It's not like a double stout. 00:18:33.939 --> 00:18:37.539 You're used to like imperial stouts at 15% ABV. Oh, okay. 00:18:39.299 --> 00:18:43.319 This is old school stout. This is stout before the 2000s. 00:18:44.459 --> 00:18:50.359 I'm not complaining. I'm actually quite happy that it's only 6%. 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:53.119 No idea whether there's actual chocolate in here. 00:18:53.499 --> 00:18:56.179 Oh, smell it and you will have an idea if there's actual chocolate. 00:18:56.179 --> 00:18:57.219 Oh my gosh. 00:18:57.879 --> 00:19:01.999 They mentioned English dark crystal malt. 00:19:02.819 --> 00:19:07.239 Yeah, there's definitely chocolate in there. It has kind of a chocolate syrup kind of aroma. 00:19:07.379 --> 00:19:07.659 Mm-hmm. 00:19:08.712 --> 00:19:13.172 I'm definitely going to let this sit for a minute. You're already tasting it? 00:19:13.392 --> 00:19:15.712 Just a baby sip. Oh, yeah, let it warm up. 00:19:15.812 --> 00:19:19.492 Warm it up with my hands and do all the things. 00:19:19.912 --> 00:19:25.292 Color is dark, tannish, and has a good amount of carbonation on it. 00:19:25.672 --> 00:19:27.052 Expect as much out of a can. 00:19:27.152 --> 00:19:30.112 While we're warming up the beer. Anything else, everybody, you want to talk about your trip? 00:19:31.612 --> 00:19:35.492 What was your favorite thing that you had to eat? Because we saw some really 00:19:35.492 --> 00:19:38.552 cool pictures, so I want to know your favorite thing. 00:19:38.552 --> 00:19:43.132 Some of the barbecue was amazing. Believe it or not, that seagull meat was great. 00:19:43.772 --> 00:19:47.932 And seagull meat wasn't seagull. 00:19:48.012 --> 00:19:50.552 Yeah, so seagull meat is... 00:19:51.112 --> 00:19:54.492 I've got this fear, if you all could see it right now. 00:19:55.052 --> 00:19:59.352 When we translate all the stuff, this particular thing said seagull meat. 00:19:59.732 --> 00:20:04.272 And it was like, it was clearly not seagull. 00:20:04.552 --> 00:20:05.092 But I was like. 00:20:05.132 --> 00:20:11.652 What does that mean? Apparently, it's from a part of the pig that the bone looks 00:20:11.652 --> 00:20:13.352 like if you were to draw a simple seagull. 00:20:13.792 --> 00:20:17.172 Oh. So it's like a... Oh, okay. 00:20:17.172 --> 00:20:18.192 It's like pork butt. 00:20:18.392 --> 00:20:21.612 Okay. Okay. I feel so much better. 00:20:26.572 --> 00:20:31.532 But yeah, so that was seagull meat. I had to try it, and it was decent. 00:20:31.812 --> 00:20:37.072 It was pretty good. I think it was from around the neck area, so decently fatty. 00:20:37.252 --> 00:20:39.872 So it had a lot of nature to it. 00:20:41.152 --> 00:20:48.512 It was... What's my favorite thing I had? Yeah, I definitely think that the barbecue was the best. 00:20:49.352 --> 00:20:50.352 Barbecue is seagull. 00:20:51.152 --> 00:20:57.892 Barbecue... Well, we went to a place that was really good and got some expensive beef. 00:20:58.272 --> 00:21:01.492 It was something like $54,000. 00:21:02.836 --> 00:21:09.836 I forget what the name of their currency is, but $54,000, which roughly gets to around $33 bucks. 00:21:11.176 --> 00:21:14.976 And it was like super marbled, like really beautiful meat. 00:21:15.636 --> 00:21:18.796 And it was delicious on the grill. Yeah. 00:21:19.376 --> 00:21:26.876 And all the little stuff that you get. I think the first meal I had there, I have a picture of it. 00:21:27.376 --> 00:21:30.536 The first meal, I didn't put it on the Discord, I believe, but I just want to 00:21:30.536 --> 00:21:33.016 remind you guys of what that looked like. 00:21:33.136 --> 00:21:36.116 The very first meal I had was one of the best ones. 00:21:36.416 --> 00:21:39.736 It was just delicious. It was in this little kind of hole-in-the-wall place, 00:21:39.736 --> 00:21:41.836 and it was just kind of perfect. 00:21:42.556 --> 00:21:48.836 Now, was there somebody there that lives there that kind of guided you guys 00:21:48.836 --> 00:21:50.976 to all of these different restaurants? 00:21:51.276 --> 00:21:52.836 I went to visit my friend Nick. 00:21:53.416 --> 00:21:55.336 Oh, I thought you were there on business. 00:21:55.556 --> 00:21:56.256 Oh, yeah. 00:21:56.636 --> 00:21:59.916 Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, I remember seeing that. 00:22:00.856 --> 00:22:05.576 It was just a bowl of stuff, kind of a vaguely bulgogi type thing with a lot 00:22:05.576 --> 00:22:08.416 of things. It was just fresh and delicious and really good. 00:22:08.776 --> 00:22:09.216 Yeah. 00:22:09.476 --> 00:22:12.976 Yeah. I mean, that kind of stuff was there. 00:22:13.896 --> 00:22:16.616 This is the kind of junk. This is the kind of like army stuff. 00:22:16.716 --> 00:22:21.456 This is like an army stew. This is like ramen and a kimchi stew with some American cheese on top. 00:22:22.936 --> 00:22:27.616 I could get behind that. It's really, really tasty. Ramen and kimchi. 00:22:28.256 --> 00:22:35.396 Really, really tasty. junk but tasty tasty junk that's cool yeah and there were 00:22:35.396 --> 00:22:41.116 suddenly this was a sort of pancakey type savory pancake with i think there 00:22:41.116 --> 00:22:46.396 was some squid on it and there's various different veggies in there yeah it. 00:22:46.396 --> 00:22:49.736 Looks like a flatbread pizza that's. 00:22:49.736 --> 00:22:55.636 A white you know pizza the only pizza i ended up having there because i didn't 00:22:55.636 --> 00:22:58.856 really want to get much american food We ended up, we were pretty drunk and 00:22:58.856 --> 00:23:02.076 we went to a place that had, here you go, here's your flatbread pizza. 00:23:02.876 --> 00:23:03.656 Mm-hmm. 00:23:04.776 --> 00:23:08.616 Just stuff that they, yeah, lots of fried stuff. 00:23:10.564 --> 00:23:18.144 I did have the crazy, and it's also in the Discord, the not technically live, 00:23:18.144 --> 00:23:21.984 but still wiggling octopus. 00:23:23.004 --> 00:23:23.644 Yeah. 00:23:24.004 --> 00:23:33.284 I couldn't do that. I couldn't do that. I mean, I've eaten plenty, but not squiggly. 00:23:34.084 --> 00:23:35.004 Still moving. 00:23:35.564 --> 00:23:38.624 Perhaps the worst part about it was that it wasn't that bad. 00:23:40.244 --> 00:23:43.144 it it was you know 00:23:43.144 --> 00:23:47.624 it's very fresh obviously uh there 00:23:47.624 --> 00:23:52.744 is the weird thing of the sort of suckers are kind of still working so they 00:23:52.744 --> 00:24:00.484 no hard no hard no absolutely not which was just an interesting experience it 00:24:00.484 --> 00:24:03.444 wasn't painful at all yeah um though. 00:24:03.444 --> 00:24:04.324 It would be for me. 00:24:04.324 --> 00:24:11.944 But yeah no it it tasted pretty decent, which was kind of the scary part, right? 00:24:12.064 --> 00:24:15.744 Like, not, but not to the point where it's like, oh, this is amazing. 00:24:16.124 --> 00:24:20.024 Because what happened was I probably, I wasn't necessarily going to do it, 00:24:20.064 --> 00:24:23.064 and then somebody was like, no, you have to. 00:24:23.164 --> 00:24:26.264 You have to do it. You have to try it. 00:24:26.864 --> 00:24:31.024 And so I was like, well, I don't, you know, I'm not against eating anything 00:24:31.024 --> 00:24:33.424 once. You know, give it a shot. 00:24:33.664 --> 00:24:36.264 I'm against eating anything that's still alive. it's. 00:24:36.264 --> 00:24:37.044 Not it's not a. 00:24:37.044 --> 00:24:43.484 Lot I mean I mean it was live 30 seconds ago yeah yeah yeah well it's just the tentacles of. 00:24:44.426 --> 00:24:44.866 Right. 00:24:45.286 --> 00:24:48.186 So. No. 00:24:49.806 --> 00:24:52.726 All right. Back to the chocolate stout. 00:24:53.506 --> 00:24:57.406 That lizard, he's wiggling things all the time. Loves them. 00:24:58.186 --> 00:24:59.946 Yeah. I'm not a lizard. 00:25:01.426 --> 00:25:07.206 We can get into that. You're not. You're not. But. 00:25:08.686 --> 00:25:13.766 This just smells like a cup of milk chocolate. Hershey's milk chocolate. 00:25:16.586 --> 00:25:23.646 Flavor is kind of a medium to light body it coffee i mean the chocolate carries through, 00:25:25.086 --> 00:25:29.686 doesn't really finish chocolatey it finishes more malty i guess like that's 00:25:29.686 --> 00:25:32.226 the chocolate kind of goes away there's. 00:25:32.226 --> 00:25:38.386 So much astringity on here that i would almost call it a porter i am it feels 00:25:38.386 --> 00:25:45.286 dusty almost it feels just like i'm not clean in that sense it It feels a little. 00:25:45.286 --> 00:25:47.386 Gritty. 00:25:47.386 --> 00:25:48.106 Almost. 00:25:48.506 --> 00:25:54.826 I mean, part of it, for me at least, is expect a body and a creaminess from 00:25:54.826 --> 00:25:56.106 a chocolate something or another. 00:25:56.366 --> 00:26:00.446 And because this one's lighter in the body and isn't creamy, 00:26:00.846 --> 00:26:03.446 it's this dissonance in my expectations. 00:26:03.526 --> 00:26:04.786 I think that's a good call. 00:26:04.786 --> 00:26:08.586 So my mind is going to, 00:26:08.986 --> 00:26:14.126 instead of it being a cup of chocolate milk made with whole milk, 00:26:14.406 --> 00:26:21.246 it's a cup of chocolate milk that's made with powdered milk that you would mix 00:26:21.246 --> 00:26:24.006 with water and then pour Hershey's syrup into. 00:26:24.786 --> 00:26:26.466 Powder like nonfat milk. 00:26:26.466 --> 00:26:32.206 The powdered, you know, that we, well, we had to buy it when I was young to 00:26:32.206 --> 00:26:36.406